lubot<tsimonq2> I'll send the Lubuntu 17.04 EOL announcement a bit later, I have some family stuff I have to go to, but you can assume that it's EOL now 😉17:01
lubot<tsimonq2> If anyone wants to get a head start on things, I'll likely end up creating something very similar to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ArtfulUpgrades/Kubuntu17:02
lubot<tsimonq2> Something might already exist, and links to that would be welcome, but for now, that's what we have to work with 😉17:02
lubot<tsimonq2> @VikingRedwolf If you feel inclined to create a beautiful page on Lubuntu.me or the wiki for it, that would be great17:03
lubot<tsimonq2> Otherwise like I said I'll hack up something :D17:04
lubot<VikingRedwolf> hack it!17:05
lubot<tsimonq2> hehe17:05
lubot<tsimonq2> One thing that might be cool if @VikingRedwolf or @MichaelTun or whoever else wants to work on it for the future is an 18.04 marketing brochure or sheet or something that someone can print out and hand to someone17:06
lubot<tsimonq2> I could totally hack up something, but again, it's not my specialty, and will likely turn out to be subpar 😉17:06
lubot<tsimonq2> Yes to it not turning out well or yes to the idea, wxl? 😆17:08
lubot<tsimonq2> hahahahahahaha17:08
lubot<tsimonq2> Fair17:08
lubot<Jyoti> Hi. I installed the lxde Lubuntu18.04 on my laptop. Will it be something different from the 17.10? Or you are working more in the Lubuntu Next realese?17:08
wxlevery version is something different17:09
lubot<tsimonq2> @Jyoti, It shouldn't be *too* different, especially given that the Launchpad builders have been delayed a lot recently, stalling progress. So nothing notable right now, but there could be something we just haven't noticed. 😉17:09
lubot<tsimonq2> Right17:09
lubot<Jyoti> Yes, but how big will be the differences betwen the regular Lubuntu versions, 17.10 and 18.04, once you are working also on the Lubuntu Next release?17:11
lubot<tsimonq2> Same as the last couple of releases, very slow 😉17:12
lubot<tsimonq2> New versions of things will come downstream from Debian, though17:12
lubot<VikingRedwolf> Jyoti as a user you won't notice a big difference in your desktop17:12
lubot<tsimonq2> Right.17:14
lubot<tsimonq2> And I think that it's something to go on the marketing thing, for sure.17:14
lubot<Jyoti> I think that is not very beautiful keep the entry "about the Lxqt" in the main menu of the LubuntuNext. Ok, the devs must have the credits and is ok to have this information somewere. But why right as a main entrance in the main menu?...17:15
lubot<tsimonq2> Hm, I never thought about that before17:15
lubot<VikingRedwolf> agreed. but that might be replaced by a simple "about"17:16
lubot<tsimonq2> I'll have a think on it, because you're right, I don't remember any other DE doing this17:16
lubot<Jyoti> Looks strange17:16
lubot<tsimonq2> It would be a simple change, but it would break translations 🤔17:16
lubot<tsimonq2> Interesting thought, thanks for the suggestion!17:16
lubot<Jyoti> Thank you for your dedication and work17:17
lubot<VikingRedwolf> thank YOU Jyoti :)17:17
lubot<tsimonq2> ^17:17
lubot<Jyoti> I buyed and use also the ubports im my bq m10 and in my bq e5 :-) great job17:19
lubot<Jyoti> I buyed the phones :-)17:19
lubot<tsimonq2> :D17:20
lubot<tsimonq2> Glad to hear you're supporting our friends over at Ubuntu Touch/UBPorts :D17:20
lubot<tsimonq2> @VikingRedwolf So the changes we're making, can we have an ETA for Alpha 2?17:33
lubot<tsimonq2> Would that work?17:33
lubot<VikingRedwolf> dunno, but I think so17:34
lubot<tsimonq2> It's possible, depending on the speed of things :D17:35
lubot<VikingRedwolf> damn right17:35
lubot<VikingRedwolf> I do what I can17:35
lubot<VikingRedwolf> :(17:35
lubot* tsimonq2 waits for agaida to say it can be done by Alpha 2 five cycles down the road, like proper Debian speed ;D17:36
lubot<VikingRedwolf> why is he no there?17:36
lubot<tsimonq2> Huh?17:37
lubot<VikingRedwolf> agaida17:37
agaidawhat should be done?18:07
lubot<VikingRedwolf> agaida, plz, tell me if this is complicated: http://phab.lubuntu.me/T1618:18
lubot<VikingRedwolf> I'd need a dialog with those values (variables) on it18:18
lubot<VikingRedwolf> Simon is going to do it, but I need a third opinion18:19
agaidashould not be that complicated - hmm, the logo part18:19
lubot<VikingRedwolf> what with the logo part?18:19
lubot<VikingRedwolf> I can haz a bitmap18:20
agaidain the veriy best case one could use zenity or such a tool18:20
lubot<VikingRedwolf> I thought that, but how do we get such values?18:20
agaidacreative usage of neofetch or so?18:20
lubot<VikingRedwolf> O.o18:20
lubot<VikingRedwolf> hmm hard18:21
lubot<VikingRedwolf> it cannot save values into variables to be processed in a batch18:22
agaidathe major *beep* of it is - all informations are availabel somewhere18:22
lubot<VikingRedwolf> right, and it would be lovely to have them all together18:22
lubot<VikingRedwolf> like a "tamed" hardinfo18:22
lubot<VikingRedwolf> for example, you can get CPU string with "mpstat -P ALL 2"18:23
lubot<VikingRedwolf> hmmm... I'll play a bit18:23
agaidafork inxi a little bit?18:24
agaidaSystem:    Host ramme Kernel 4.14.13-towo.1-siduction-amd64 x86_64 bits 64 Desktop LXQt18:24
agaida           Distro siduction 16.1.0 Patience - lxqt - (201610120613)18:24
agaidaCPU:       Octa core AMD FX-8350 Eight-Core (-MCP-) cache 16384 KB18:24
agaida           clock speeds max 4000 MHz 1 1515 MHz 2 1514 MHz 3 1514 MHz 4 1515 MHz 5 1507 MHz 6 1517 MHz18:24
agaida           7 1515 MHz 8 1502 MHz18:24
agaidaGraphics:  Card NVIDIA GM206 [GeForce GTX 950]18:24
agaida           Display Server x11 (X.Org 1.19.5 ) drivers nvidia (unloaded: modesetting,fbdev,vesa)18:24
agaida           Resolution 1920x1200@59.95hz18:24
lubot<VikingRedwolf> lovely18:24
agaida           OpenGL renderer GeForce GTX 950/PCIe/SSE2 version 4.5.0 NVIDIA 390.1218:24
agaidaInfo:      Processes 267 Uptime 1:34 Memory 1944.4/32069.2MB Client Quassel v0.13-pre inxi 2.3.4518:24
lubot<VikingRedwolf> more than enough information for end users like me18:25
agaidaand delete all things one dont want or need18:25
lubot<VikingRedwolf> a simple "inxi" command puts out a few strings with no detail18:26
lubot<VikingRedwolf> omg, I think it's perfect18:26
agaidait was inxi -SCGI18:26
lubot<VikingRedwolf> THANK YOU AGAIDA!!!!!18:26
lubot* VikingRedwolf kisses agaida18:27
agaida:) What should my wife think? But better than licking :D18:27
lubot<VikingRedwolf> don't tempt me. I could lick you if I can get those independent values18:28
agaidai know the problem - and h2 (Harald Hope) is working on inxi for several years no > 10 :P18:34
lubot<VikingRedwolf> O.o18:34
agaidaanother place to look how to get the needed informations might be infobash by locksmith (M. de Boer)18:36
agaidahttps://github.com/fullstory/infobash - not so big18:36
agaidabut in the end it boils down to some generic tools and process the output18:37
agaidaand that sucks a lot18:37
lubot<VikingRedwolf> yes. I was thinking on parsing inxi's output with grep or something18:37
lubot<VikingRedwolf> like everything is shown up like "CPU: 286" so I just have to get the text before "CPU: "18:38
lubot<VikingRedwolf> s/before/after 😐18:38
agaidamaybe infobash or neofetch are better toos in that case18:38
lubot<VikingRedwolf> then I'd place a nice little icon before that and... voila18:38
agaidahttps://i.imgur.com/cQ3PY3h.jpg :)18:40
lubot<VikingRedwolf> wonderful18:40
agaidastandard neofetch - available in the ubuntu repositories18:41
lubot<VikingRedwolf> wait... you're using LXQt with a GTK3 theme under XFWM...? *brain explodes*18:41
agaidawhy not?18:41
lubot<VikingRedwolf> that's an orgy! XD18:41
lubot<VikingRedwolf> I like it, really :)18:41
agaidaxfwm4 is in the moment the WM that fits best for LXQt - thats why i make it default in debian18:42
lubot<VikingRedwolf> and Adwaita is bloody beautiful :)18:42
lubot<VikingRedwolf> matching xfwm theme?18:43
lubot<VikingRedwolf> mhm18:43
lubot<VikingRedwolf> I like it18:45
lubot<VikingRedwolf> but the way I used xfwm...18:45
lubot<VikingRedwolf> was odd18:45
lubotПавел Иванов was added by: Павел Иванов18:46
lubot<VikingRedwolf> @Павел Иванов, o/18:47
agaidana - openbox should do too - and if i understand mati right he added my ob breeze theme to debian18:47
lubot<Wolfenprey> (Document) http://vps.tsimonq2.net:8080//file_3452.mp418:47
lubot<VikingRedwolf> no, no, I mean I didn't use compositor, or taskbar, or things like that18:47
agaidaok, nobody is forced to do so18:47
lubot<VikingRedwolf> https://pre00.deviantart.net/377a/th/pre/f/2014/222/c/c/solaris_cde_by_aaro2011-d7uioaw.png18:47
lubot<Wolfenprey> @VikingRedwolf, im curious about your desktop18:47
lubot<VikingRedwolf> ._.18:47
lubot<VikingRedwolf> "task icons", CDE style. xfwm is the only wm that can do this nowadays18:48
lubot<VikingRedwolf> I love ancient OS looks18:48
lubot<Wolfenprey> me too18:49
lubot<Wolfenprey> and run doom on a window18:49
lubot* VikingRedwolf licks @Wolfenprey18:49
lubot<VikingRedwolf> good thing is Lubuntu can do something like that. LXDE desktop can show running apps18:50
lubot<VikingRedwolf> instead of "real" desktop18:50
lubot<Wolfenprey> (Sticker, 512x512) http://vps.tsimonq2.net:8080//file_345318:50
lubot<VikingRedwolf> my first environment: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6b/Gem_11_Desktop.png18:53
lubot<VikingRedwolf> GEM over DRDOS18:53
lubot<Wolfenprey> wow18:54
lubot<VikingRedwolf> sexy, huh? :)18:55
lubot<Wolfenprey> oh yes18:55
lubot<Wolfenprey> compare that with gnome today18:56
lubot<VikingRedwolf> :D18:57
lubot<Wolfenprey> (i really dont like gnome...)18:57
lubot<VikingRedwolf> I do, but these old systems had something we don't have anymore: a well designed personality18:58
lubot<Wolfenprey> well, that's for sure18:59
lubot<VikingRedwolf> the desktop metaphor was shocking and innovative then. I guess we've seen too many18:59
lubot<Wolfenprey> sometimes it s like people want to make or invent the next desktop innovation and look, but not the system19:00
agaidaPersonality? Computers are insults pressed into silicon!19:00
lubot<VikingRedwolf> @Wolfenprey, damn right19:00
lubot<VikingRedwolf> like OS/2, it has the unique feature of shading (marking) the active opened app or folder. it's bloody useful19:01
lubot<VikingRedwolf> or the Miller Columns, only OSX took it for its Finder19:01
lubot<VikingRedwolf> (and Panthon)19:01
lubot<VikingRedwolf> every DE is getting more and more alike19:01
lubot<Wolfenprey> im testing deepin right now 😆19:02
lubot<VikingRedwolf> beautiful, but it was terribly slow in my modest laptop19:02
lubot<VikingRedwolf> but Elementary, Fedora and specially Solus work fast19:02
lubot<VikingRedwolf> something's wrong in Deepin. you just installed now?19:03
lubot<Wolfenprey> just installed it and seeing why all the love19:03
lubot<VikingRedwolf> the repo updates are slooooooooooow19:03
lubot<Wolfenprey> not now, if you choose a near one19:04
lubot<VikingRedwolf> it didn't work in my installation :(19:04
lubot<Wolfenprey> this is my second time with, first time was a disaster19:05
lubot<VikingRedwolf> :)19:06
lubot<VikingRedwolf> omg omg omg omg, agaida, this would work too:19:06
lubotcat /proc/meminfo  | grep 'MemFree'| uniq19:06
lubot<VikingRedwolf> I can grep proc's texts19:06
lubot<VikingRedwolf> I'm trying not to use external commands / apps19:07
lubot<Alon Ganon> Where do I go to change the Lubuntu banners when logging in and out? Trying to clear out Lubuntu/Ubuntu stuff for my project based on Lubuntu?19:08
lubot<Alon Ganon> I know the images are in /usr/share/Lubuntu/images19:08
lubot<VikingRedwolf> that image is here: /usr/share/lubuntu/images/logout-banner.png19:09
lubot<VikingRedwolf> but you'llhave to modify it as root19:09
lubot<Alon Ganon> Correct but I need to purge all Lubuntu and Ubuntu references so I need to change where it’s pointing for my new artwork for Liberty Wallet OS19:09
lubot<VikingRedwolf> then you have a hard task XD19:10
agaidagrep  -m 1 "model name" /proc/cpuinfo19:10
agaidamodel name      : AMD FX(tm)-8350 Eight-Core Processor19:10
lubot<VikingRedwolf> there're icons, banners, images, texts, config files... everywhere19:10
lubot<Alon Ganon> Yup I know19:10
lubot<VikingRedwolf> I recommend you, Alon to use a Ubuntu remix tool19:10
lubot<Alon Ganon> I was thinking of Pinguy OS tool or is there something better?19:11
lubot<VikingRedwolf> installing an OS and "emptying" it is not practical19:11
lubot<VikingRedwolf> https://askubuntu.com/questions/293859/how-to-make-my-own-distro19:11
lubot<VikingRedwolf> @agaida, yeah. I can't find the graphics card info19:11
lubot<Alon Ganon> I read UCK is discontinued won’t that be an issue?19:12
lubot<VikingRedwolf> not really, but it'll result in an outdated remix. we  change packages almost daily. imagine the outcome19:12
lubot<VikingRedwolf> specially if you want to create a remix / spin / flavour with a recent source19:13
lubot<Alon Ganon> Trying to build it for 16.0419:13
lubot<VikingRedwolf> may I ask why?19:13
lubot<Alon Ganon> Thought it might be easier to play with as it’s an LTS and will give me until 202119:14
lubot<VikingRedwolf> ok19:14
agaidaredwolf: parsing inxi give taht19:15
agaida####  -G - full graphics output requires:  glxinfo (mesa-utils); xdpyinfo (X11-utils);19:16
agaida####       xrandr (x11-xserver-utils)19:16
lubot<VikingRedwolf> lspci | grep VGA | uniq19:16
lubot<VikingRedwolf> lots of pipes though19:17
lubot<tsimonq2> So I've just set up two-way mirroring of our Lubuntu seeds to GitHub: https://github.com/lubuntu-team/lubuntu-seeds22:45
lubot<VikingRedwolf> Bidirectional?22:46
lubot<tsimonq2> Yes.22:46
lubot<tsimonq2> Alright, cron is set to go every five minutes for it.22:48
wxl[m]If you check the man page of lspci, lshw, etc, they're usually reading stuff from /proc22:54
lubot<tsimonq2> @VikingRedwolf Would you mind if I converted the Artwork branch to Git and did the mirroring too?23:00
lubot<VikingRedwolf> Please, not yet23:00
lubot<tsimonq2> Julien gave the goahead to convert everything to Git but I don't want to pull the rug out from under you. 😉23:00
lubot<tsimonq2> Ok, no problem, when would be a good time?23:00
lubot<tsimonq2> (It's honestly super simple to do)23:01
lubot<VikingRedwolf> When i finish the Plymouth thing23:01
lubot<tsimonq2> Ok, please let me know when this is done.23:01
lubot<VikingRedwolf> Aye23:01
lubot<tsimonq2> Because I think mirroring our Git repos in Launchpad, Phab, and GitHub will definitely make them more visible and open to pull requests, know what I mean? :)23:02
lubot<VikingRedwolf> yer23:05
lubot<VikingRedwolf> wait, you said it's b idirectional. so I can keep using bzr, right?23:06
lubot<tsimonq2> No23:06
lubot<VikingRedwolf> shite23:06
lubot<VikingRedwolf> then plz wait a bit23:06
lubot<tsimonq2> But if you push your changes somewhere, it would really be trivial to convert it one way23:06
lubot<tsimonq2> Well,23:06
lubot<tsimonq2> Hm23:06
lubot<tsimonq2> I *could* actually do that23:06
lubot<tsimonq2> (you know, one way convert to Git..._23:06
lubot<tsimonq2> Yeah, actually, I'll do that23:07
lubot<VikingRedwolf> O_O23:07
lubot<VikingRedwolf> you nuts23:07
lubot<tsimonq2> You can keep working in Bazaar on Launchpad, and this script can just seamlessly convert over23:07
lubot<tsimonq2> Oh, watch me, it's easy 😉23:07
lubot<VikingRedwolf> I'll plan to push thingies tomorrow23:07
lubot<tsimonq2> Ok23:07
lubot<tsimonq2> @julienlavergne Either way, I've converted lubuntu-default-settings over to Git. I can manually import translations, but that's coming.,23:11
lubot<tsimonq2> @VikingRedwolf Jeez, your artwork takes a long time to clone :D23:11
lubot<VikingRedwolf> because of too many wallpapers. I'd like to remove some23:12
lubot<VikingRedwolf> but yeah, I have a heavy package 😐23:12
lubot<tsimonq2> Yeah, maybe move them to like an "obsolete" package 😉23:12
lubot<tsimonq2> @VikingRedwolf, .___.23:12
lubot<VikingRedwolf> no, better removing some23:12
lubot<VikingRedwolf> there're wallies from Quantal!23:12
lubot<VikingRedwolf> but I need to re-arrange  some folders. I need to talk to Julien about it, if we're including another theme23:13
lubot<tsimonq2> Boom, converted and pushed to https://github.com/lubuntu-team/lubuntu-artwork23:15
lubot<tsimonq2> @VikingRedwolf ^23:15
lubot<VikingRedwolf> oohhh23:16
lubot<tsimonq2> See how simple that was?23:16
lubot<VikingRedwolf> aye23:16
lubot<tsimonq2> https://github.com/mnauw/git-remote-bzr makes it SO EASY23:17
lubot<VikingRedwolf> sorcery!23:17
lubot<tsimonq2> hehehehe23:17
lubot<tsimonq2> @VikingRedwolf Er, so, it can't go *to* Launchpad because of the way things are set up23:24
lubot<tsimonq2> So that'll have to be done manually23:24
lubot<tsimonq2> But otherwise it's done :)23:24
lubot<tsimonq2> Also mirroring stuff on Phab23:32
lubot<VikingRedwolf> nope. it's not working because I ALREADY added the plymouth logo and it's coming back to Launchpad23:34
lubot<VikingRedwolf> got the notification?23:34
lubot<tsimonq2> Mhh, dunno23:34
lubot<tsimonq2> No?23:34
lubot<VikingRedwolf> well, I'm there: https://github.com/lubuntu-team/lubuntu-artwork23:34
lubot<tsimonq2> @VikingRedwolf So you're ready to convert to Git then? :D23:38
lubot<VikingRedwolf> I F*CKING LOVE DRAG'N'DROP!!!23:39
lubot<tsimonq2> @VikingRedwolf Soooo you want to use GitHub for now on? :D23:39
lubot<VikingRedwolf> YAASSSSS!!!!23:39
lubot<tsimonq2> Ok23:39
lubot<tsimonq2> Sooo I'll do the conversion 😉23:39
lubot<VikingRedwolf> specially for me, considering that I upload single files here and there (except  for the icons) it's SUPER handy23:40
lubot<VikingRedwolf> got the update yet?23:40
lubot<tsimonq2> Yes23:40
lubot<tsimonq2> I'm doing the Git conversion now23:40
lubot<VikingRedwolf> grand23:40
lubot<tsimonq2> @VikingRedwolf Accept me into ~lubuntu-artwork23:44
lubot<VikingRedwolf> NO!23:44
lubot<tsimonq2> I need to do it to set up the mirroring...23:44
lubot<tsimonq2> Oh, thanks23:44
lubot<tsimonq2> .___.23:44
lubot<tsimonq2> er23:44
lubot<tsimonq2> @VikingRedwolf doetttttttt23:45
lubot<VikingRedwolf> nope23:45
lubot<tsimonq2> @VikingRedwolf Please?23:45
lubot<tsimonq2> Oh23:45
lubot<tsimonq2> Heh23:45
lubot<tsimonq2> Cool :)23:45
lubot<VikingRedwolf> .___.23:45
lubot<tsimonq2> .______.23:45
lubot<VikingRedwolf> omg, you are held there for ages XD23:45
lubot<tsimonq2> XD23:45
lubot<VikingRedwolf> I think I can remove Alex now 😢23:46
lubot<tsimonq2> Aww :/23:46
lubot<VikingRedwolf> (Document) http://vps.tsimonq2.net:8080//file_3464.mp423:47
lubot<VikingRedwolf> I miss him :(23:47
lubot<VikingRedwolf> He did every glyph and mini icon in Lubuntu, you know?23:49
lubot<tsimonq2> o____o23:49
lubot<tsimonq2> wow23:49
lubot<tsimonq2> Cool!23:49
lubot<VikingRedwolf> 😢23:49
lubot<VikingRedwolf> (Sticker, 512x512) http://vps.tsimonq2.net:8080//file_346523:49
lubot<tsimonq2> @VikingRedwolf Alright, should be all set up :)23:53
lubot<tsimonq2> Although, when you use the GitHub web interface, you can get garbage emails like https://git.launchpad.net/lubuntu-artwork/commit/?id=e2601ea83ddf162a5644dbf9abb8d8d6ab665b5d23:54
lubot<tsimonq2> @VikingRedwolf So now, you can commit in GitHub, Phab, or Launchpad and it will all seemlessly merge23:55
lubot<tsimonq2> @julienlavergne So now, the artwork and default settings branches have been converted to Git and mirrored to GitHub and Phab.Lubuntu.me but the old branches are there for compatibility, I'll let you delete those when you're satisfied with the Git conversion :)23:56
lubot<tsimonq2> @julienlavergne And you might want to add your Ubuntu email to GitHub so you can get these commits on your profile :D23:56

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