[04:02] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[04:02] <lotuspsychje> !zesty
[04:02] <ubot5> Ubuntu 17.04 (Zesty Zapus) was the 26th release of Ubuntu - Release notes: https://ubottu.com/y/zesty - Want to upgrade? see https://ubottu.com/y/artful
[04:12] <oerheks> Jtech .. should be the same in debian, or whatever ubuntu-fork
[04:12] <lotuspsychje> wth...
[04:12] <oerheks> oops wrong channel :-P
[04:13] <lotuspsychje> troling us for days now
[04:13] <oerheks> really, he mentioned .efi earlier, he does have an uefi motherboard.
[04:13] <oerheks> 1:52 https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/latest/%23ubuntu.html
[04:21] <oerheks> .. see ??
[04:22] <oerheks> still i do not believe he wants to install xubuntu whatever
[04:23] <lotuspsychje> im not gonna feed him anymore
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> hey EriC^^
[05:24] <EriC^^> hey lotuspsychje
[05:25] <oerheks> Noooooooooooooooo .... hi EriC^^ :-D
[05:25] <EriC^^> hi oerheks :D
[05:27] <lotuspsychje> lol
[07:03] <lotuspsychje> !zesty
[07:03] <ubot5> Ubuntu 17.04 (Zesty Zapus) was the 26th release of Ubuntu. Support ended on January 13th, 2017. See !eol and !eolupgrade
[07:03] <lotuspsychje> great
[07:13] <lotuspsychje> !info mrtg
[07:13] <ubot5> mrtg (source: mrtg): multi router traffic grapher. In component universe, is extra. Version 2.17.4-4ubuntu1 (artful), package size 323 kB, installed size 920 kB
[07:25] <ducasse> good morning, everyone
[07:28] <oerheks> hey ducasse
[07:29] <ducasse> hi oerheks - how are you and drabber?
[07:31] <oerheks> we have just walked the walk, and i have planned to go to a fleemarket later on
[07:31] <oerheks> your missy is still in bed??
[07:35] <ducasse> fleamarket sounds like fun :) the little lady is up, currently sitting in the windowsill looking out at the snow. i'll open so she can go out in a minute, but i don't think she'll want to.
[08:10] <oerheks> first i give drabber his flea-drops ..
[08:10] <oerheks> then grab a bag with change
[08:10] <oerheks> glasses, check
[08:11] <oerheks> list of goods to buy, check
[08:11] <ducasse> heading out? is there lots of snow where you live?
[08:11] <oerheks> 1.5 A 12 volt adapter, intel nuc max 25 euro, nice pants
[08:12] <oerheks> no, i go +- 10:30
[08:13] <oerheks> neighbour is driving a nice warm car
[08:13] <oerheks> drabber in a shoulderbag
[08:37] <lotuspsychje> bbl sea
=== EriC^^ is now known as Guest50388
[10:46] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[15:28] <lotuspsychje> good afternoon guys
[15:28] <lotuspsychje> oerheks: segmentation fault on synaptic aswell on wayland here
[15:29] <BluesKaj> hey lotuspsychje
[15:29] <lotuspsychje> hey BluesKaj
[15:29] <pauljw> hi lotuspsychje
[15:29] <lotuspsychje> hey pauljw
[15:31] <oerheks> sad to hear, lotuspsychje :-(
[15:31] <BluesKaj> heh, just tried wayland on the laptop, i3 cpu and intel gpu, but some apps still crashed ...there were so many notifiers it was kind of comical ;-0
[15:31] <oerheks> well, we wait for an update, i hope before 18.04
[15:31] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: gnome or kde?
[15:31] <lotuspsychje> hey TJ-
[15:31] <BluesKaj> kde/plasma
[15:32] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: you feel like its lagging launches of programs?
[15:33] <BluesKaj> lotuspsychje, all apps seem slow to load, yes
[15:34] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: my bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1740146
[15:34] <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1740146 in mutter (Ubuntu) "System slow on wayland, lagging mouse and programs on 17.10 & 18.04" [Undecided,New]
[15:34] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: hiya :)
[15:35] <TJ-> Hmmm, how about dropping wayland for 18.04 :p
[15:35] <lotuspsychje> lol
[15:35] <lotuspsychje> its working on fedora smooth?
[15:38] <BluesKaj> yeah, tried it on fedora , it ran well, but fedora is not kubuntu/ubuntu
[15:41] <lotuspsychje> lol
[15:41] <lotuspsychje> just had a white screen of death on wayland
[15:42] <pauljw> hopefully it'll be all worked out by 2021
[15:42] <lotuspsychje> lol
[15:43] <pauljw> they could flush it along with systemd and it wouldn't hurt my feelings one bit.
[15:46] <BluesKaj> hey pauljw , yup I agree...wouldn't miss them one bit
[15:47] <lotuspsychje> anyone sees what time i got disconnected?
[15:47] <pauljw> 10:39
[15:47] <pauljw> eastern time
[15:48] <lotuspsychje> tnx
[15:48] <pauljw> :)
[15:50] <lotuspsychje> i hope they get that light ubuntu feeling again on bionic final
[15:53] <BluesKaj> i should have installed bionic on the ssd to compare it to artful, unfortunately it's on the spare hdd
[15:53] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: in this stage, i dont find much differences yet
[15:54] <lotuspsychje> just different package versions
[15:55] <BluesKaj> lotuspsychje,  ok, was thinking of dding the partitions over to the ssd , but i'll leave it for now
[15:55] <lotuspsychje> yeah
[15:56] <EriC^^> hey guys
[15:56] <EriC^^> what's cracking
[15:56] <pauljw> hey EriC^^
[15:56] <EriC^^> hey pauljw how are you?
[15:56] <pauljw> good thanks, you?
[15:57] <EriC^^> good thanks
[15:57] <BluesKaj> hey EriC^^
[15:57] <EriC^^> the weather's been pretty bad today here
[15:57] <lotuspsychje> hey EriC^^
[15:57] <EriC^^> hey BluesKaj how are you doing?
[15:57] <EriC^^> hey lotuspsychje
[15:57] <lotuspsychje> we had sunny but cold at the sea
[15:57] <EriC^^> how'd the day go
[15:58] <lotuspsychje> great, distributed 100 more flyers
[15:58] <EriC^^> aha what did you mean by 'bbl sea' ?
[15:58] <EriC^^> fishing or like walking?
[15:58] <lotuspsychje> yeah sea walk
[15:58] <BluesKaj> good here EriC^^ , juat another ordinary winter day here ...the deep freeze is fianlly gone
[15:59] <EriC^^> nice
[15:59] <EriC^^> cool
[16:00] <EriC^^> cant wait for the sunny weather here
[16:01] <BluesKaj> must be nice
[16:02] <lotuspsychje> where could i find this white screen of death?
[16:02] <lotuspsychje> to bug it need to know what is was
[16:04] <lotuspsychje> var crash doenst show
[16:08] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: anything in the wayland journal entries?
[16:09] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: wheres that
[16:11] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: use "systemctl status" to discover the service name - might be gdm3 itself, not sure
[16:11] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: im back on xorg atm
[16:14] <lotuspsychje> ├─1294 gdm-session-worker [pam/gdm-launch-environment]
[16:19] <lotuspsychje> 490 wayland bugs
[16:19] <lotuspsychje> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu?field.searchtext=wayland&search=Search&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&field.status%3Alist=TRIAGED&field.status%3Alist=INPROGRESS&field.status%3Alist=FIXCOMMITTED&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.has_patch=&field.has_no_package=
[16:19] <lotuspsychje> 409
[16:21] <lotuspsychje> gonna affect me on few bugs
[16:21] <lotuspsychje> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wayland/+bug/1731102
[16:21] <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1731102 in wayland (Ubuntu) "Poor performance with Wayland" [High,Confirmed]
[16:23] <lotuspsychje> affected tnx to oerheks https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/synaptic/+bug/1551951
[16:23] <ubot5> Launchpad bug 1551951 in synaptic (Ubuntu) "synaptic does not run over gnome wayland session" [Medium,Confirmed]
[16:24] <alkisg> 18.04 will default to wayland? Poor lts users... :D
[16:24] <alkisg> MATE ftw! :D
[16:25] <lotuspsychje> alkisg: this aint good my customers
[16:25] <lotuspsychje> need something stable
[16:41] <lotuspsychje> gtg guys, dinner & movies
[16:48] <pauljw> alkisg, 16.04 is supported till 2021, no poor lts users.
[16:56] <alkisg> With abandoned unity?! No thanks! MATE ftw! :D
[17:05] <pauljw> MATE runs on 16.04 too, just like xfce that i'm using.
[17:05] <pauljw> :)
[21:46] <Bashing-om> 1zesty
[21:46] <Bashing-om> !zesty
[21:46] <ubot5> Ubuntu 17.04 (Zesty Zapus) was the 26th release of Ubuntu. Support ended on January 13th, 2017. See !eol and !eolupgrade
[21:48] <daftykins> so long and thanks for all the fish
[21:48] <daftykins> :)