| brobostigon | morning boys and girls. | 09:34 |
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| zmoylan-pi | enjoy before the cold weather arrives... | 09:41 |
| brobostigon | zmoylan-pi: even colder? | 09:49 |
| zmoylan-pi | seemingly... | 09:54 |
| brobostigon | https://darksky.net/forecast/51.752,-1.2578/uk224/en doesnt look two bad, | 09:56 |
| brobostigon | too* | 09:56 |
| halt | just because there is an of chance that my issue is distro specific, I ask it here as well, ( also becasue the httpd channel is dead ) I have this config https://apaste.info/f1Lh and I can't access the server-status on apache 2.4 | 12:31 |
| Nafallo | looks like you can though? you're getting a redirect your curl isn't following? | 12:33 |
| halt | Well that goes out to the main domain on https and there only a 403 | 12:38 |
| halt | curl -s -I -L localhost/server-status?auto | grep ^HTTP | 12:38 |
| halt | HTTP/1.1 301 Moved Permanently | 12:38 |
| halt | HTTP/1.1 403 Forbidden | 12:38 |
| Fogey_ | Is there s specific help channel? | 13:40 |
| daftykins | the main channel is #ubuntu - but you can ask here as well, as long as it's *buntu based | 13:41 |
| Fogey_ | Sure is. I've got 16.04.3 installed on an old Toshiba laptop - all was great until the latest update.... | 13:42 |
| daftykins | ruh roh | 13:42 |
| daftykins | boot the last kernel and then update again | 13:42 |
| daftykins | you may have obtained a dud | 13:42 |
| Fogey_ | Did. | 13:42 |
| daftykins | ok well i'm going to need a little bit more detail than that | 13:43 |
| Fogey_ | OK, so complete reinstall and update - same problem. When you move the mouse to the top r/h corner the screen blanks.... | 13:44 |
| Fogey_ | Flickers and then returns... | 13:44 |
| daftykins | oh right so it's nothing boot related | 13:44 |
| Fogey_ | Boots OK, looks OK, until you want to use it...# | 13:45 |
| daftykins | which kernel is it on? | 13:46 |
| Fogey_ | Interestingly, when you do manage to grab Firefox, the top menu dissapears. | 13:46 |
| Fogey_ | disappears? | 13:46 |
| Fogey_ | Col bogey. I don't know... tell me how to find out... | 13:47 |
| daftykins | uname -r | 13:47 |
| daftykins | you might be able to boot, ignore the GUI entirely and switch to a TTY to run the above - with ctrl+alt+F1 | 13:48 |
| Fogey_ | 4.10.0-28-generic | 13:48 |
| Fogey_ | s'ok I managed to get a terminal.. | 13:49 |
| daftykins | mmm so HWE kernel of the .3 media - can you share an lspci via "lspci | pastebinit" ? | 13:49 |
| Fogey_ | gawd. OK, spell it out for me... | 13:49 |
| daftykins | no you don't need an explanation of that | 13:49 |
| daftykins | having any luck with the above command? | 13:51 |
| Fogey_ | So you say... I can't find that filter thingy character | 13:51 |
| daftykins | the pipe? | | 13:52 |
| Fogey_ | pipe! That's it... | 13:52 |
| daftykins | it's shift + the key between left shift and Z on a UK layout | 13:52 |
| Fogey_ | Well fancy that! | 13:53 |
| Fogey_ | Hang on, I've got to install pastebinit | 13:54 |
| Fogey_ | OK, i've run the command, where's the flippin text gone? | 13:56 |
| daftykins | it should have output a URL to type here | 13:56 |
| Fogey_ | http://paste.ubuntu.com/26384861 | 13:57 |
| daftykins | ok intel integrated graphics only | 13:59 |
| Fogey_ | It's an old laptop :) | 14:00 |
| daftykins | that's irrelevant, modern laptops can be intel graphics only too | 14:00 |
| daftykins | and: grep -i model /proc/cpuinfo | 14:00 |
| Fogey_ | Like me.. | 14:00 |
| Fogey_ | You want me to shove that down the pipe too? | 14:01 |
| daftykins | nah just run it and let me know what the CPU is | 14:01 |
| Fogey_ | Model 23 | 14:01 |
| daftykins | should have a proper name like "intel blah blah" | 14:01 |
| Fogey_ | Pentium(R) Dual-Core T4300 @2.10GHz | 14:02 |
| daftykins | that's the one | 14:02 |
| daftykins | try reinstalling using this image and updating as normal - http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/16.04.1/ubuntu-16.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso | 14:03 |
| Fogey_ | I've re-installed using an old release it works OK. I'm actually using it now. | 14:04 |
| daftykins | no you're not, you're using a newer image which gave you a newer kernel | 14:04 |
| daftykins | 13:48 < Fogey_> 4.10.0-28-generic <-- as stated above | 14:04 |
| daftykins | i'm on a 16.04 install which is running 4.4.0-109-generic | 14:04 |
| Fogey_ | Well, it was off a USB stick that I set up last year. It works. | 14:05 |
| daftykins | then i need to know what version it is | 14:05 |
| daftykins | it can't be that much older since you claim to be giving me output from the problem machine | 14:05 |
| Fogey_ | I am. Re-installed but DID NOT accept the latest updates which appears to be the issue. | 14:06 |
| daftykins | ok, well the point i'm trying to get at is to run a different kernel version by installing from the ISO i linked above, so do that please | 14:07 |
| daftykins | updating after *that* install will be different | 14:07 |
| Fogey_ | Alrighty, you'll have to excuse my ignorance. | 14:09 |
| Fogey_ | Getting the 16.04 LTS from the website sometime last year brought me to this point. | 14:10 |
| Fogey_ | The latest update made things go wonky. | 14:10 |
| Fogey_ | Where does that leave me going backwards? | 14:10 |
| daftykins | yes, as time goes on they refresh the images with newer hardware enablement stacks, which results in a different kernel and GUI stack for the release versus the original 16.04 release | 14:11 |
| daftykins | !hwe | 14:11 |
| lubotu3 | The Ubuntu LTS enablement stacks provide newer kernel and X support for existing LTS releases, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack | 14:11 |
| daftykins | just means you'll be on 4.4 instead of 4.10, still gets updates and fixes | 14:11 |
| daftykins | trying out the older one is a troubleshooting test i've picked | 14:11 |
| Fogey_ | I don't suppose you can overwrite the Kernel from the command line? | 14:14 |
| daftykins | i'd have issued an instruction to do things the easy way, if there were an easy way | 14:14 |
| daftykins | reinstall with the above ISO please :) | 14:14 |
| Fogey_ | Hah! of course.. | 14:14 |
| Fogey_ | OK. That's gonna take some time.... If you don't hear from me again,.... many thanks for assistance. | 14:15 |
| daftykins | np, good luck | 14:18 |
| daftykins | i know who to point you to if it does the same | 14:18 |
| Fogey_ | OKey doke. Now how do I quite this thing? | 14:18 |
| Fogey_ | quit1 | 14:18 |
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