[00:52] <xubuntu71w> Hi guys, is this where I ask my nooby questions?
[00:54] <krytarik> Yes!  just give it a try!
[00:56] <xubuntu71w> I'm running 16.04 through Crouton on a chromebook, and I'm having this weird issue with PlayOnLinux
[00:56] <xubuntu71w> when I try to manually create a shortcut, it just shows a blank window after scanning
[00:57] <krytarik> Scanning?
[00:57] <xubuntu71w> it looks like this guy had a similar issue on a different window - http://i.imgur.com/8cbUSev.png
[00:57] <xubuntu71w> see how it's empty?
[00:59] <krytarik> Maybe better try in #playonlinux
[00:59] <xubuntu71w> alright, thanks :)
[01:00] <krytarik> Sure.
[02:41] <VerdantVulture> I'm having a really weird issue. I just installed Xubuntu on my machine with two monitors, and if I set them as two separate monitors, my mouse is sort of reversed. By that, I mean that if I click on the top left of my right monitor, it'll actually click the top left of my left monitor instead. I'm running 16.04
[11:35] <sorinello> Hello. Is Xubuntu stopping apps improperly when restarting/shutting down ? Because each time I restart the system, Firefox wants to restore tabs, thus indicating an improper application closing.
[13:58] <dave__> hi
[13:59] <dave__> new to irc - have a question if anybody is out there
[14:02] <dave__> acer aspire n270 atom running xubuntu install. works but upgrade causes 3/4 screen on 945 intel video to all gobbly gook
[14:03] <dave__> tried halting kernel upgrade but no deal. not a Linux guru here so dont know xubuntu that well
[14:07] <dave__> cant believe an update would do this. xubuntu is less taxing on the system then win7 so was all excited until this
[14:17] <pjotter> Hi people! :)
[14:17] <dave__> good morning
[14:18] <pjotter> Just a quick question. I installed Xubuntu on a small laptop that is connected to the internet by ethernet. When I unplug the ethernet cable and then try to shutdown, it just keeps shutting down forever. Does anyone know what is causing this and how to 'fix' it?
[14:18] <dave__> dont know if you can see my post 10 minutes earlier but i have a question
[14:19] <pjotter> Hi dave__
[14:19] <dave__> u new to linux or know a little bit
[14:19] <pjotter> No I can't see that post. Maybe you want to post it again?
[14:19] <pjotter> Maybe I can help.
[14:19] <dave__> acer aspire n270 atom running xubuntu install. works but upgrade causes 3/4 screen on 945 intel video to all gobbly gook
[14:19] <dave__> use it for college
[14:20] <dave__> im in canada
[14:20] <pjotter> upgrade to a newer version?
[14:20] <dave__> i think its just getting the next security updates - like 85 mb
[14:20] <dave__> not huge then booom video goes gobbly gook 3/4 screen
[14:21] <pjotter> That shouldn;t be a problem. What version of Xubuntu are you running?
[14:21] <dave__> may be some kind of kernel update too
[14:21] <dave__> 1604
[14:21] <dave__> got it from site
[14:21] <pjotter> recently?
[14:21] <dave__> loaded easy enough
[14:21] <dave__> ya like yesterday
[14:21] <pjotter> Ok
[14:22] <pjotter> Well, that;s strange.
[14:22] <pjotter> Are you sure its; not a hardware problem with the screen or something?
[14:22] <dave__> i think i seen some talk about it but yes its weird
[14:22] <dave__> win7 works great on it
[14:22] <dave__> no issues
[14:22] <dave__> so im like wth
[14:22] <pjotter> Have you looked if there is a video driver availabe?
[14:22] <dave__> but win7 is taxing on the little netbook
[14:23] <dave__> dont know linux that well
[14:23] <dave__> so what it gives is what i get
[14:23] <pjotter> Well, after install you a can also choose to install some proprietary drivers if you wish so
[14:24] <dave__> in the software updates module
[14:24] <dave__> ya seen a number of screens and options
[14:24] <dave__> for now i told linux no more updates
[14:25] <dave__> turned it all off - sources everything
[14:25] <pjotter> There should be some option in the men that is called "extra hardware drivers" or something like that
[14:25] <dave__> additional drivers tab
[14:25] <dave__> none available
[14:26] <pjotter> ok
[14:26] <dave__> ghosted out
[14:26] <pjotter> And the screen resolution is also ok?
[14:26] <dave__> now it works great
[14:26] <dave__> yes the screen resolution is high
[14:27] <dave__> like 10xx x 7xxx
[14:27] <dave__> 1024x600
[14:28] <pjotter> This happens only once in  while?
[14:28] <dave__> i see you are having your own issues
[14:28] <dave__> maybe not a show stopper but still
[14:28] <pjotter> Well, minor issues.
[14:28] <pjotter> Screen works fine though
[14:28] <dave__> workaround
[14:29] <dave__> ha ha
[14:29] <pjotter> Probably some setting somewhere.
[14:29] <dave__> ya wish i could help but i dabble in linux
[14:29] <dave__> dont have time to spend hours on it
[14:29] <pjotter> I mostly work on a desktop computer. Xubuntu works great there.
[14:30] <dave__> ya it seems to work on my dual core (test) desktop just fine
[14:30] <pjotter> But laptops should work fine too. I just recently installed a new Xubuntu on a freinds new laptop computer.
[14:30] <dave__> yes i think there is better luck if the pc/laptop is not ancient
[14:31] <pjotter> Yes, it was a brand new Lenovo
[14:31] <dave__> like 5-6 years is not pushing it but this netbook is old
[14:31] <dave__> nice
[14:31] <pjotter> Still, it should work on old hardware.
[14:31] <dave__> the funny thing is my toshiba laptop which is 4 years old crashes on ubuntu and ive shutdown the usual bios stuff etc
[14:32] <dave__> i just gave up
[14:32] <dave__> on this desktop quad core - it works like a champ
[14:32] <pjotter> Could be just bad luck.
[14:33] <dave__> its just the way linux distros work... roll te dice
[14:33] <pjotter> But I'm sure there are people here that know a lot more about these things than I do.
[14:33] <dave__> say what you want about windows, updates dont destroy the useability
[14:34] <pjotter> Well, over the years I've seen (X)Ubuntu get more stable. I now use it as my main OS.
[14:34] <dave__> oh man i seen the things people are doing and im like ..wwhhat kernel updates ,raw>
[14:34] <dave__> thats good news cause if it sits well on your system, its way better then windows its just getting it there thats the issue with linux
[14:35] <pjotter> Just recently assisted someone on a windows 10 computer. A complete disaster. Updates took like 10 hours or something! And still, there were problems.
[14:35] <dave__> wow. ya i hear bad things about 10
[14:35] <dave__> windows 7 was awwwright
[14:36] <dave__> 8 is bad
[14:36] <pjotter> I liked 9 though
[14:36] <pjotter> :D
[14:36] <dave__> lol
[14:36] <pjotter> The 'secret' version
[14:36] <dave__> mi6 ya funny
[14:37] <flocculant> pjotter: re your long shutdown without ethernet - when it's shutting down do you get the spinner - if you do try escape there and see where it's hanging - you should get text after esc
[14:37] <pjotter> I need to go to the shop unfortunately
[14:38] <pjotter> flocculant: Thanks for the reply. Yes, I was thinking about doing that. I searched the internet and couldn;t find anything on this particular problem. I have to find out what it's doing when shutting down. pressing esc will propably give me more info!
[14:38] <flocculant> yup
[14:39] <flocculant> could possible be network.service hanging
[14:39] <pjotter> I'll try that and get back to you.
[14:39] <dave__> ttyl pjotter
[14:39] <pjotter> My wife insist I go to the shop and get some food :S
[14:39] <flocculant> if it takes 90s to shutdown - more likely a service, iirc 90s is default wait time
[14:39] <flocculant> pjotter: :D
[14:49] <flocculant> pjotter: obviously you could also try losing quiet splash for a boot and shutdown
[20:15] <glitchd> hello all
[20:18] <glitchd> is there anyway to stop xscreenaver from posting messages? i use a script to activate the screensaver on another machine, this script funs in a loop to keep the screensaver active if mouse movement disables it. since its running in a loop, it posts messages that its being toggled while already active. this is a bit annoying. is there anyway to stop it from posting messages?
[20:28] <well_laid_lawn> glitchd:  where is it posting the messages ?
[20:36] <glitchd> on the screen itself
[20:36] <glitchd> saying something along the line of the screensaver is already activated
[20:36] <glitchd> since the script is running in a loop
[20:43] <russkiy_ebanko> russkie onlain??
[20:46] <well_laid_lawn> !ru
[20:48] <well_laid_lawn> glitchd:  see if this helps https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/xscreensaver-messages-on-screen-when-screensaver-is-active-661553/
[20:49] <glitchd> well_laid_lawn, thank you, ill have a look now at it
[20:50] <CoderEurope> What prionter that is $50 would definately work with linux ?
[20:53] <glitchd> well_laid_lawn, welp i checked the link and it said to set overlaystderr to flase to stop the messages, i did that, but it still posts messages.
[20:55] <well_laid_lawn> glitchd:  checked the last post ?
[20:57] <CoderEurope> no one cares :@
[20:57] <glitchd> well_laid_lawn, overlayStderr: True. Provides the background that the yellow text message(s) are displayed on. You could try setting that to False too. --i did that
[20:58] <glitchd> well_laid_lawn, makes no difference
[21:01] <well_laid_lawn> glitchd:  that's the best info i can find on the net about that
[21:02] <glitchd> well_laid_lawn, the effort is much appreciated, thank you.
[21:02] <well_laid_lawn> cheers
[21:03] <glitchd> adios bud