[07:32] <didrocks> good morning
[08:03] <Nafallo> morn'
[08:14] <Trevinho> morning
[08:14] <duflu> Morning didrocks, Nafallo, Trevinho, willcooke
[08:14] <duflu> , all
[08:18] <seb128> good morning desktopers
[08:18] <didrocks> jeu Nafallo, Trevinho, duflu & seb128
[08:19] <duflu> And good morning seb128
[08:19] <seb128> game didrocks
[08:19] <seb128> hey duflu
[08:20] <seb128> flexiondotorg, hey, is bug #1742687 an issue with the new Ubuntu serie or with the new snapd 2.30?
[08:20] <seb128> mvo, hey, maybe do you know about ^?
[08:29] <mvo> seb128, flexiondotorg hm, slightly confusing as snapd should use io.snapcraft.Launcher - the SafeLauncher is the old snapd-xdg-open package which should have been taken over by snapd. I will investigate
[08:29] <seb128> mvo, thanks, I mvoed to #snappy meanwhile since you were discussing there and I though it was maybe more on topic
[08:30] <mvo> seb128: +1
[08:41] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[08:46] <duflu> Hi oSoMoN
[08:46] <duflu> and hi alan_g
[08:46] <oSoMoN> hey duflu
[08:46] <alan_g> o/
[08:46] <oSoMoN> hey alan_g
[09:03] <Laney> moin
[09:03] <oSoMoN> morning Laney
[09:05] <Laney> hey oSoMoN, you well?
[09:05] <oSoMoN> Laney, I'm good, how are you?
[09:07] <didrocks> hey Laney, oSoMoN!
[09:07] <oSoMoN> salut didrocks
[09:07] <oSoMoN> you guys had a good week-end?
[09:08] <didrocks> was good, yes! yourself?
[09:09] <oSoMoN> yeah, I did some DIY with my daughter and a long walk in the woods (we called it an adventure), it was nice and relaxing
[09:13]  * Laney is good also
[09:13] <Laney> the train station re-opened after the fire http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-42681048
[09:13] <Laney> so we made it to manchester and had lots of coffee / food / beer
[09:33] <flexiondotorg> Morning desktopers.
[09:49] <duflu> Morning flexiondotorg
[10:00] <xnox> Does anybody use hexchat with bionic? is it me, or notification integration & systray icon functions.... are a bit broken?
[10:03] <duflu> xnox, (hi again) IIRC it was broken with xchat-gnome too
[10:03] <duflu> Possibly related
[10:03] <xnox> right, searching github i found "consider it a hexchat wayland compatibility issue"
[10:03] <xnox> let me re-login with Ubuntu X session.
[10:06] <Nafallo> xnox: both unifi and cisco ise hotspots tested and I couldn't reproduce the bug we talked about on thursday :-P
[10:16] <xnox> ack
[10:35] <xnox> polari -> theming is lacking =( cannot read the channel topic at all.
[10:35] <xnox> smuxi -> too much mono for me
[10:38]  * xnox found the best IRC chat client ever =)
[10:38] <Laney> telnet
[10:38] <xnox> step 1) enable native desktop notifications in google-chrome
[10:38] <xnox> step 2) install circ chrome browser app
[10:38] <xnox> it has integration with native gnome shell notifications et.al. and looks decent!
[10:39] <Nafallo> bah. I remember when I was young and scripted desktop notifications from a remote irssi server :-P
[10:39]  * xnox is old and grumpy and needs a poop-up to click on to respond on irc
[10:40] <Nafallo> you literally just responded without a hilight ;-)
[12:51] <andyrock> hey Laney
[12:52] <andyrock> there are several systemd .path units in update-notifier still using
[12:52] <andyrock> PartOf=graphical-session.target
[12:52] <andyrock> seb128 told me this target was/is used by unity7
[12:56] <andyrock> to complete the question: update-notifier deb is manually creating the links in the .wants directory
[12:56] <andyrock> and in bionic these .path units do not work anymore
[12:56] <andyrock> any suggestion?
[12:57] <seb128> (likely in artful as well)
[12:58] <Laney> hi andyrock
[12:58] <Laney> yeh, those aren't going to work until graphical-session.target is actie
[12:58] <Laney> v
[12:59] <andyrock> so which target should we use
[12:59] <andyrock> default.target?
[12:59] <andyrock> or both (if possible)?
[13:00] <Laney> don't think so, you only want this running if there is a graphical sesison
[13:01] <Laney> maybe start these from XDG autostart or something
[13:02] <Laney> mmm what's going to stop it then
[13:02] <andyrock> why bionic is using default.target for the user session?
[13:03] <Laney> ah no that's not a concern, these are Type=oneshot
[13:03] <Laney> hm?
[13:03] <Laney> you get user sessions for any type of login
[13:05] <andyrock> if a login using the GUI and I do "systemctl --user get-defaults"
[13:05] <Laney> like when you SSH in
[13:05] <andyrock> I get default.target
[13:06] <Laney> I'm not saying that default.target isn't started for GUI logins, I'm saying it is also started for non-GUI logins.
[13:07] <andyrock> got it but how can I distinguish a GUI login fro a non-GUI login?
[13:08] <Laney> Can't be done until the work to start sessions using systemd is in Ubunt
[13:08] <Laney> u
[13:09] <andyrock> ah ok
[13:09] <Laney> it's my current project but it's probably going to be a bit longer, need to get it all posted for review, then reviewed
[13:09] <andyrock> nice
[13:09] <andyrock> before B is released right?
[13:10] <Laney> that's the idea, but I don't think I should promise that
[13:10] <Laney> like I say you could probably start these path units using a script called from /etc/xdg/autostart/
[13:16] <seb128> andyrock, easier is probably to do what Laney suggests with the autostart script for now, sorry you got bitten by those session changes and thanks for taking the time to figure out why things were not working anymore
[13:16] <Laney> yeah it's one thing that fell into the cracks when we went to GNOME unfortunately
[13:16] <Laney> sorry about that, trying to make it better
[13:16] <andyrock> kk
[13:16] <Laney> hey seb128
[13:17] <Laney> good travels?
[13:20] <seb128> hey, had better
[13:20] <seb128> I started being sick on wednesday, turned out to be the flu (first time for me!)
[13:20] <seb128> I had fever&co from thursday until yesterday
[13:21] <seb128> that made for a fun long flight :-/
[13:22] <Laney> :(
[13:22] <Laney> still sick now?
[13:23] <seb128> I'm starting feeling better today
[13:23] <seb128> like if I had a start cold
[13:23] <seb128> start->standard
[13:23] <seb128> good timing :)
[13:24] <willcooke> That didn't stop him necking 10 beers and a massive pizza last night
[13:25] <didrocks> facts!
[13:25] <Laney> show that virus who's boss
[13:25] <didrocks> I'm sure it's because all the vegetables on top of the pizza
[13:26] <didrocks> of*
[13:26] <willcooke> ;DDDD
[13:26] <willcooke> I am joking of course, he was very sad looking yesterday
[13:27] <seb128> :-(
[13:27] <seb128> tonight I can drink a better I think!
[13:27] <willcooke> \o/
[13:27] <seb128> :)
[13:27] <Laney> I assume it's reasonably nice weather there
[13:27] <seb128> bah, a beer even
[13:27] <Laney> that should help :P
[13:27] <seb128> then maybe I can start typing correctly again
[13:27] <seb128> yeah, it seems nice outside
[13:27] <seb128> not that I have been there yet :/
[13:30] <Laney> https://youtu.be/Dj-5JVDnvBA?t=1m50s
[13:31] <seb128> :)
[15:27] <ricotz> oSoMoN, hi, time for another lo 6.0 rc :) https://launchpad.net/~ricotz/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+sourcepub/8721286/+listing-archive-extra
[15:28] <oSoMoN> nice
[15:38] <Laney> anyone know how to get patch to ignore a missing file?
[15:38] <Laney> like if I'm applying an old patch and one of the files has been deleted
[15:40] <ricotz> Laney, -f ?
[15:41] <Laney> ricotz: ah yeah probably
[15:41] <Laney> I just ended up editing the patch file
[15:42]  * Laney has some super tedious conflicts to resolve
[15:59] <tkamppeter> seb128, hi
[16:00] <seb128> hey tkamppeter
[16:01] <tkamppeter> seb128, did you have a look at the cups-pk-helper bug?
[16:01] <seb128> tkamppeter, yes, but it has packaging changes I'm not familiar with and I'm travelling this week so I don't have time to properly review why they are needed
[16:03] <tkamppeter> seb128, so don't mind, I will ask Ken on Thursday.
[16:04] <seb128> k
[16:04] <seb128> or subscribe sponsors maybe somebody review it
[16:05] <tkamppeter> seb128, sponsors is already subscribed for months.
[16:05] <seb128> k
[17:29] <Nafallo> ex-seb128 :-O
[18:20] <zyga> jbicha: hello
[18:21] <zyga> jbicha: I'm debuggin a bug in latest dbus in bionic
[18:21] <zyga> jbicha: since you made the last upload I was thinking you could give me some pointers
[18:21] <zyga> jbicha: it seems to be related to the way apparmor labeling patch
[18:21] <zyga> jbicha: I've been documenting my progress here https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/spotify-cannot-open-url/3341/10
[18:22] <zyga> jbicha: the symptomps are that dbus doesn't populate any peer labels anymore
[18:22] <zyga> jbicha: does this ring any bells?