| keithzg | lwizardl: Yeah it's pretty snazzy, although I'm not sure if you're looking into purely the audio chat portion of Discord or into the more chat-channel nature, which is more what Matrix does, with both web and native clients; you can also do voice communication between users but I've never actually tried it. They have a repo though and it's *super* easy to set up on an Ubuntu server, so it's worth trying it out! | 00:13 |
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| lwizardl | keithzg, I have never used discord but someone told me you can share files, chat, etc. Sort of like how irc does also. but in a single setup and i wan to try and get a similar setup | 00:21 |
| keithzg | lwizardl: Ah, yeah Matrix, especially the Riot.im clients for it, can let you do all precisely that. It's very much designed as a more contemporary take on IRC. | 00:22 |
| lwizardl | awesome thanks for the info :) | 00:26 |
| keithzg | lwizardl: No problem :) | 00:30 |
| H1d3 | anyone here | 02:54 |
| keithzg | Nope | 02:57 |
| * keithzg calls it a day, puts on his coat, heads home | 02:57 | |
| Neo4 | I installed LAMP and have used this code https://hastebin.com/quzaqebugo.php | 03:00 |
| Neo4 | and have got message error is not send | 03:01 |
| Neo4 | might I install mail server? | 03:01 |
| Pinkamena_D | Hello. I have a lubuntu headless machine. In /etc/network/interfaces I specify the config. The ip address and network are used, but the dns-nameservers line is not propogated to the resolveconf file, so I end up manually overwriting it at every boot. Any common reason the dns-nameservers line would be ignored? | 03:14 |
| lordievader | Good morning | 07:04 |
| lordievader | Pinkamena_D: What is it pointing towards, before you edit it? | 07:04 |
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| ahasenack | rbasak: is there a tool to check a package's Depends (or Build-depends) and tell from which pocket they come from? | 13:20 |
| ahasenack | case in point is I want to check the dependencies of a main package and make sure none come from non-main | 13:20 |
| mdeslaur | ahasenack: check-mir | 13:33 |
| ahasenack | oh, convenient, thx | 13:34 |
| mdeslaur | yw | 13:34 |
| rbasak | ahasenack: yeah, check-mir is the best tool we have. Note though that it doesn't always give you a perfect answer. | 13:37 |
| ahasenack | I found a build dep on python-distutils-extra which is in universe, for a main package | 13:39 |
| ahasenack | yet the package is in the archive | 13:39 |
| ahasenack | is that an exception? | 13:39 |
| ahasenack | case is landscape-client. Check xenial, for example | 13:39 |
| ahasenack | python-distutils-extra was in main in the trusty days | 13:40 |
| * ahasenack reads https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2016-April/001179.html | 13:43 | |
| rbasak | ahasenack: how do you feel about bug 1717040 currently, given my comment 30 and Yann's reply? | 15:40 |
| ubottu | bug 1717040 in libzstd (Ubuntu Zesty) "Please backport libzstd 1.3.1+dfsg-1 (universe) from artful" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1717040 | 15:40 |
| ahasenack | I was going to ask you the same :) | 15:40 |
| rbasak | I'm not comfortable accepting an SRU that we know will break user behaviour (admittedly the number of users is low but unknown, may be nonzero) when I know there's a way round it and nobody else has an opinion. | 15:41 |
| ahasenack | then so be it | 15:41 |
| ahasenack | we version the dev package | 15:42 |
| rbasak | Might be worth checking with someone that the Conflicts will work correctly on upgrade. | 15:44 |
| rbasak | I wonder if there should be a Replaces somewhere for example. | 15:44 |
| ahasenack | I will need assistance from somebody for that | 15:45 |
| rbasak | https://wiki.debian.org/PackageTransition may be relevant | 15:45 |
| ahasenack | relevant yes, trivial not | 15:46 |
| rbasak | Case #2 perhaps? | 15:46 |
| ahasenack | not that simple, I looked at other similar cases | 15:46 |
| ahasenack | there is a virtual "libfoo-dev" provides | 15:47 |
| ahasenack | involved | 15:47 |
| ahasenack | meaning the default dev pkg | 15:47 |
| ahasenack | there is definitely a pattern to follow | 15:47 |
| ahasenack | I just need to know what is a good package to look at | 15:47 |
| rbasak | Perhaps ask infinity for help on this one | 15:47 |
| rbasak | And also, if thinks this is unnecessary, then I'll trust his judgement :) | 15:48 |
| ahasenack | rbasak: should we also provide a zstd1 (with soname) package for the cli linked against the new lib? | 16:13 |
| ahasenack | otherwise, if you have zstd (the 0.5 cli) installed, and upgrade, it will pull in libzstd1 (1.x) with the new zstd 1.x package | 16:13 |
| ahasenack | but leave libzstd (assumed soname 0) and respetive -dev (if installed) alone | 16:13 |
| rbasak | ahasenack: I don't follow your question. I'd expect the SRU to ship a libzstd1 only. libzstd0 would still be shipped in the release pocket. Users could end up with both co-installed if they need. | 16:27 |
| rbasak | The new zstd CLI would depend on libzstd1 | 16:27 |
| nacc | (and would need to manually remove it, i believe, if they no longer wanted it) | 16:30 |
| nacc | (the *zstd0 packages) | 16:30 |
| nacc | rbasak: you around still? | 16:30 |
| rbasak | nacc: yes | 16:31 |
| nacc | rbasak: mind joining the standup HO briefly? | 16:39 |
| rbasak | nacc: omw | 16:42 |
| kneeki | If I want to set up a subdomain like: api.foo.bar.com, would I use a CNAME record? api > CNAME > foo.bar.com | 17:54 |
| kneeki | Nevermind, I got it. * > CNAME > foo.bar.com | 18:05 |
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| ahasenack | rbasak: question was about the zstd cli, if we should ship one in a package named zstd1 which would either conflict or be co-locatable with zstd | 18:29 |
| ahasenack | but given the new cli can handle files produced by the old library, I think no need for a zstd1 (separate) package, and just let zstd 0.5 upgrade to zstd 1.x | 18:29 |
| rbasak | ahasenack: I assumed the latter. | 18:57 |
| rbasak | No need to ship two zstd binaries, AIUI. | 18:57 |
| ahasenack | sounds good | 18:58 |
| ahasenack | hm, I copied ~/.gnupg to a container I have running (lxd), but gpg --list-keys on the container shows no output, as if there were no keys | 19:52 |
| ahasenack | I checked ~/.gnupg/*.conf files, nothing obvious | 19:53 |
| ahasenack | any idea what could be wrong? | 19:53 |
| ahasenack | I'm at the strace level now | 19:53 |
| ahasenack | I can see it opening several files in ~/.gnupg inside the container, but that's it, no output from the tool | 19:53 |
| ahasenack | both the host and the container are the same ubuntu release (artful) | 19:56 |
| ahasenack | ok, worked now | 19:57 |
| ahasenack | cosmic rays for sure | 19:57 |
| nacc | ahasenack: did you restart teh agent? | 20:02 |
| nacc | ahasenack: or perhaps sighup or something | 20:02 |
| ahasenack | there was no agent inside the container | 20:03 |
| nacc | ahasenack: what os was the container? | 20:03 |
| ahasenack | or shouldn't be, at least | 20:03 |
| ahasenack | artful too | 20:03 |
| ahasenack | I actually tried starting one | 20:03 |
| nacc | ahasenack: hrm, if it's gpg2 (which i think artfull was), there's always an agent | 20:04 |
| nacc | ahasenack: or were you specifically invoking gpg1? | 20:04 |
| ahasenack | then maybe I inadvertently restarted it when I tried to start a new one | 20:04 |
| ahasenack | no, just "gpg" | 20:04 |
| ahasenack | also removed "use-agent" from the conf file in ~/.gnupg at some point | 20:04 |
| nacc | yeah, that's gpg2 in artful | 20:04 |
| nacc | ahasenack: per `man gpg2`, that has no effect any longer :) | 20:05 |
| nacc | "gpg always requires the agent" | 20:05 |
| nacc | ahasenack: that optionn, that is | 20:05 |
| ahasenack | ok | 20:05 |
| nacc | i spent some time dealing with this when we had it in the snap before | 20:05 |
| nacc | yeah looks like zesty+ is gpg2 by default | 20:06 |
| nacc | xnox: is there a way with sysv to say that if corosync starts that it should start pacemaker, if pacemaker is available? The phrasing of "Should-Start" is close, but then I think it's semantics don't make a ton of sense (or I misunderstand them) | 20:55 |
| xnox | nacc, i do not speak sysv init... my first linux machine ran upstart; my first unix machine ran launchd | 20:56 |
| nacc | xnox: ok :/ | 20:56 |
| xnox | maybe slangasek can help, but he is not on this channel. | 20:56 |
| xnox | try on #ubuntu-devel | 20:56 |
| nacc | xnox: we could switch the packages to upstart, but that's a bigger SRU, of course | 20:56 |
| nacc | xnox: ack | 20:56 |
| micalexander | I have a newly installed version of ubuntu 16.0.4 installed on a 2010 imac in efforts to get better at sever administration, lol, however I can not seem to be able to gain access to it via ssh on my local network. I have installed openssh-server and openssh-client, allowed port 22 with ufw and iptables and still nothing. It just hangs on ssh. Is there something obvious that I am missing? | 22:04 |
| mason | micalexander: Test basic networking before you start using fancier things. | 22:04 |
| mason | Can you ping it? Can you telnet to port 22 and see a listener? | 22:04 |
| mason | From the console, make sure your network is configured properly. | 22:05 |
| micalexander | mason: yes I can ping it | 22:05 |
| Ussat | is it in a VM or direct hardware ? | 22:05 |
| micalexander | direct | 22:05 |
| mason | It's a virtual 2010 imac. :P | 22:05 |
| micalexander | mason: " From the console, make sure your network is configured properly." | 22:07 |
| mason | More or less, yes. :) | 22:07 |
| micalexander | I can ping it but telneting it seems to hang | 22:07 |
| mason | So, can you ping out from it? | 22:07 |
| micalexander | you mean telnet from another computer on the same network right? | 22:08 |
| mason | Yes. | 22:08 |
| micalexander | wait not out from it | 22:08 |
| micalexander | let me try | 22:08 |
| Ussat | does it have a IP ? | 22:08 |
| Ussat | ifconfig | 22:08 |
| mason | If you can ping, then the next thing is, is the service you want running? Is it holding a port listener? Is there firewalling blocking you? | 22:08 |
| mason | If you set it up to learn, this is the perfect sort of problem to have. :) | 22:09 |
| micalexander | right! | 22:10 |
| micalexander | I can ping a web address | 22:10 |
| mason | That's useful then. So, you want ssh - is it installed? Is it running? | 22:11 |
| micalexander | and nstat seems to show port 22 | 22:11 |
| mason | ps axuww | grep ssh | 22:11 |
| micalexander | yes | 22:11 |
| mason | Do you have telnet installed on it? Can you telnet localhost 22 ? | 22:11 |
| mason | Also, a random note, wifi can be flaky - you might have a happier time, especially on Mac hardware, if you're plugged in. | 22:11 |
| mason | I installed on a macboot5,1 the other day, and wireless performance is disappointingly spotty. | 22:12 |
| micalexander | I am plugged in | 22:12 |
| mason | good | 22:12 |
| micalexander | looks like its connected to 22. said connecting and just hanging out there | 22:14 |
| Ussat | reverse dns | 22:14 |
| mason | micalexander: But if nothing answers that's no good. You should see "SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_7.2p2 Ubuntu-4ubuntu2.2" or similar. | 22:14 |
| mason | from your telnet localhost 22 | 22:15 |
| micalexander | yes | 22:15 |
| micalexander | that is what I see | 22:15 |
| micalexander | also... | 22:15 |
| mason | Ah, good. | 22:15 |
| micalexander | I can not seem to ping my local ip of my macbook from it. Is that a problem? Seems li it, | 22:16 |
| micalexander | like | 22:16 |
| mason | micalexander: So, if you can ping out but not ping yourself, that's probably some sort of issue. I'd make sure you don't have firewall rules next. | 22:16 |
| mason | sudo iptables -n --list | 22:17 |
| mason | But with that I have to take off. You're making progress though. I'll check back later. | 22:18 |
| micalexander | iptables show 22 | 22:21 |
| micalexander | K, so it was because I was not on the wifi 5g connection on the computer I was sshing from. | 23:03 |
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