[00:13] lwizardl: Yeah it's pretty snazzy, although I'm not sure if you're looking into purely the audio chat portion of Discord or into the more chat-channel nature, which is more what Matrix does, with both web and native clients; you can also do voice communication between users but I've never actually tried it. They have a repo though and it's *super* easy to set up on an Ubuntu server, so it's worth trying it out! [00:21] keithzg, I have never used discord but someone told me you can share files, chat, etc. Sort of like how irc does also. but in a single setup and i wan to try and get a similar setup [00:22] lwizardl: Ah, yeah Matrix, especially the Riot.im clients for it, can let you do all precisely that. It's very much designed as a more contemporary take on IRC. [00:26] awesome thanks for the info :) [00:30] lwizardl: No problem :) [02:54] anyone here [02:57] Nope [02:57] * keithzg calls it a day, puts on his coat, heads home [03:00] I installed LAMP and have used this code https://hastebin.com/quzaqebugo.php [03:01] and have got message error is not send [03:01] might I install mail server? [03:14] Hello. I have a lubuntu headless machine. In /etc/network/interfaces I specify the config. The ip address and network are used, but the dns-nameservers line is not propogated to the resolveconf file, so I end up manually overwriting it at every boot. Any common reason the dns-nameservers line would be ignored? [07:04] Good morning [07:04] Pinkamena_D: What is it pointing towards, before you edit it? === led2 is now known as led1 [13:20] rbasak: is there a tool to check a package's Depends (or Build-depends) and tell from which pocket they come from? [13:20] case in point is I want to check the dependencies of a main package and make sure none come from non-main [13:33] ahasenack: check-mir [13:34] oh, convenient, thx [13:34] yw [13:37] ahasenack: yeah, check-mir is the best tool we have. Note though that it doesn't always give you a perfect answer. [13:39] I found a build dep on python-distutils-extra which is in universe, for a main package [13:39] yet the package is in the archive [13:39] is that an exception? [13:39] case is landscape-client. Check xenial, for example [13:40] python-distutils-extra was in main in the trusty days [13:43] * ahasenack reads https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2016-April/001179.html [15:40] ahasenack: how do you feel about bug 1717040 currently, given my comment 30 and Yann's reply? [15:40] bug 1717040 in libzstd (Ubuntu Zesty) "Please backport libzstd 1.3.1+dfsg-1 (universe) from artful" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1717040 [15:40] I was going to ask you the same :) [15:41] I'm not comfortable accepting an SRU that we know will break user behaviour (admittedly the number of users is low but unknown, may be nonzero) when I know there's a way round it and nobody else has an opinion. [15:41] then so be it [15:42] we version the dev package [15:44] Might be worth checking with someone that the Conflicts will work correctly on upgrade. [15:44] I wonder if there should be a Replaces somewhere for example. [15:45] I will need assistance from somebody for that [15:45] https://wiki.debian.org/PackageTransition may be relevant [15:46] relevant yes, trivial not [15:46] Case #2 perhaps? [15:46] not that simple, I looked at other similar cases [15:47] there is a virtual "libfoo-dev" provides [15:47] involved [15:47] meaning the default dev pkg [15:47] there is definitely a pattern to follow [15:47] I just need to know what is a good package to look at [15:47] Perhaps ask infinity for help on this one [15:48] And also, if thinks this is unnecessary, then I'll trust his judgement :) [16:13] rbasak: should we also provide a zstd1 (with soname) package for the cli linked against the new lib? [16:13] otherwise, if you have zstd (the 0.5 cli) installed, and upgrade, it will pull in libzstd1 (1.x) with the new zstd 1.x package [16:13] but leave libzstd (assumed soname 0) and respetive -dev (if installed) alone [16:27] ahasenack: I don't follow your question. I'd expect the SRU to ship a libzstd1 only. libzstd0 would still be shipped in the release pocket. Users could end up with both co-installed if they need. [16:27] The new zstd CLI would depend on libzstd1 [16:30] (and would need to manually remove it, i believe, if they no longer wanted it) [16:30] (the *zstd0 packages) [16:30] rbasak: you around still? [16:31] nacc: yes [16:39] rbasak: mind joining the standup HO briefly? [16:42] nacc: omw [17:54] If I want to set up a subdomain like: api.foo.bar.com, would I use a CNAME record? api > CNAME > foo.bar.com [18:05] Nevermind, I got it. * > CNAME > foo.bar.com === SergioMeneses is now known as SergioMeneses1 === SergioMeneses1 is now known as SergioMeneses [18:29] rbasak: question was about the zstd cli, if we should ship one in a package named zstd1 which would either conflict or be co-locatable with zstd [18:29] but given the new cli can handle files produced by the old library, I think no need for a zstd1 (separate) package, and just let zstd 0.5 upgrade to zstd 1.x [18:57] ahasenack: I assumed the latter. [18:57] No need to ship two zstd binaries, AIUI. [18:58] sounds good [19:52] hm, I copied ~/.gnupg to a container I have running (lxd), but gpg --list-keys on the container shows no output, as if there were no keys [19:53] I checked ~/.gnupg/*.conf files, nothing obvious [19:53] any idea what could be wrong? [19:53] I'm at the strace level now [19:53] I can see it opening several files in ~/.gnupg inside the container, but that's it, no output from the tool [19:56] both the host and the container are the same ubuntu release (artful) [19:57] ok, worked now [19:57] cosmic rays for sure [20:02] ahasenack: did you restart teh agent? [20:02] ahasenack: or perhaps sighup or something [20:03] there was no agent inside the container [20:03] ahasenack: what os was the container? [20:03] or shouldn't be, at least [20:03] artful too [20:03] I actually tried starting one [20:04] ahasenack: hrm, if it's gpg2 (which i think artfull was), there's always an agent [20:04] ahasenack: or were you specifically invoking gpg1? [20:04] then maybe I inadvertently restarted it when I tried to start a new one [20:04] no, just "gpg" [20:04] also removed "use-agent" from the conf file in ~/.gnupg at some point [20:04] yeah, that's gpg2 in artful [20:05] ahasenack: per `man gpg2`, that has no effect any longer :) [20:05] "gpg always requires the agent" [20:05] ahasenack: that optionn, that is [20:05] ok [20:05] i spent some time dealing with this when we had it in the snap before [20:06] yeah looks like zesty+ is gpg2 by default [20:55] xnox: is there a way with sysv to say that if corosync starts that it should start pacemaker, if pacemaker is available? The phrasing of "Should-Start" is close, but then I think it's semantics don't make a ton of sense (or I misunderstand them) [20:56] nacc, i do not speak sysv init... my first linux machine ran upstart; my first unix machine ran launchd [20:56] xnox: ok :/ [20:56] maybe slangasek can help, but he is not on this channel. [20:56] try on #ubuntu-devel [20:56] xnox: we could switch the packages to upstart, but that's a bigger SRU, of course [20:56] xnox: ack [22:04] I have a newly installed version of ubuntu 16.0.4 installed on a 2010 imac in efforts to get better at sever administration, lol, however I can not seem to be able to gain access to it via ssh on my local network. I have installed openssh-server and openssh-client, allowed port 22 with ufw and iptables and still nothing. It just hangs on ssh. Is there something obvious that I am missing? [22:04] micalexander: Test basic networking before you start using fancier things. [22:04] Can you ping it? Can you telnet to port 22 and see a listener? [22:05] From the console, make sure your network is configured properly. [22:05] mason: yes I can ping it [22:05] is it in a VM or direct hardware ? [22:05] direct [22:05] It's a virtual 2010 imac. :P [22:07] mason: " From the console, make sure your network is configured properly." [22:07] More or less, yes. :) [22:07] I can ping it but telneting it seems to hang [22:07] So, can you ping out from it? [22:08] you mean telnet from another computer on the same network right? [22:08] Yes. [22:08] wait not out from it [22:08] let me try [22:08] does it have a IP ? [22:08] ifconfig [22:08] If you can ping, then the next thing is, is the service you want running? Is it holding a port listener? Is there firewalling blocking you? [22:09] If you set it up to learn, this is the perfect sort of problem to have. :) [22:10] right! [22:10] I can ping a web address [22:11] That's useful then. So, you want ssh - is it installed? Is it running? [22:11] and nstat seems to show port 22 [22:11] ps axuww | grep ssh [22:11] yes [22:11] Do you have telnet installed on it? Can you telnet localhost 22 ? [22:11] Also, a random note, wifi can be flaky - you might have a happier time, especially on Mac hardware, if you're plugged in. [22:12] I installed on a macboot5,1 the other day, and wireless performance is disappointingly spotty. [22:12] I am plugged in [22:12] good [22:14] looks like its connected to 22. said connecting and just hanging out there [22:14] reverse dns [22:14] micalexander: But if nothing answers that's no good. You should see "SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_7.2p2 Ubuntu-4ubuntu2.2" or similar. [22:15] from your telnet localhost 22 [22:15] yes [22:15] that is what I see [22:15] also... [22:15] Ah, good. [22:16] I can not seem to ping my local ip of my macbook from it. Is that a problem? Seems li it, [22:16] like [22:16] micalexander: So, if you can ping out but not ping yourself, that's probably some sort of issue. I'd make sure you don't have firewall rules next. [22:17] sudo iptables -n --list [22:18] But with that I have to take off. You're making progress though. I'll check back later. [22:21] iptables show 22 [23:03] K, so it was because I was not on the wifi 5g connection on the computer I was sshing from.