[05:38] <studio-user786> surprised people still use IRC.  glad to see it still running
[05:58] <pragomer> actually trying to switch from macbook&logicpro to free software on a linux-laptop. ardour works great. do you have any suggestions for quality natural software instruments / samples for piano and strings?
[06:05] <OvenWerk1> pragomer: this is probably not the best channel to ask
[06:05] <pragomer> do you know a good channel or forum where could ask such things?
[06:06] <OvenWerk1>  try on #ardour but probably not right now as they are mostly UTC and easter
[06:06] <OvenWerk1> east US
[06:08] <OvenWerk1> The only two I know are fluid synth (should be a part of ardour as a-fluid synth or linux sampler.
[06:10] <OvenWerk1> a-fluidsynth plays and sf2 sound fonts you can find. Linux sampler plays gigasampler and SFZ as well
[06:10] <pragomer> ok.. yesterday I discovered fluidsynth as player of soundfonts sf2.. so it could be the right way searching for good sf2 instruments.
[06:10] <pragomer> ah yes.. same tought at the same time :-9
[06:10] <OvenWerk1> probably.
[06:11] <OvenWerk1> Linux sampler is not available as a package (unless on their own home page) so it needs to be built
[06:11] <pragomer> a 2nd and perhaps really ubuntustudio question for a linux-audio-newbie (on the non-audio-side I am ubuntuuser since 2007):
[06:12] <pragomer> in prior versions of ubuntu studio I always had to use the (for me complicated) jack-system, connecting these virtual cables and all stuff like this..
[06:12] <pragomer> on the newest us 17.10 I could just open ardour, choose alsa as driver and I could play fluid synth and playback my loops, etc...
[06:12] <pragomer> does this mean jack and jack-driver is obsolete for me
[06:12] <OvenWerk1> if you are using Ardour 5.* you can use it directly with alsa and no jack
[06:13] <pragomer> oh perfect... that was the conclusion I was getting to and what I hoped.. this is so much easier just with alsa.. thank god :-)
[06:13] <OvenWerk1> You can get away without jack and in fact Ardour devs suggest running without jack.
[06:14] <pragomer> ok thats pretty cool ;-)
[06:14] <OvenWerk1> :) I use jackd for my system and in fact use it as the device for pulse. But that doesn't mean you have to for sure.
[06:15] <OvenWerk1> I have a custom startup script for my sessions which most people would find non-trivial.
[06:16] <OvenWerk1> So if just using alsa works for you great. Do be warned that it is not possible to use two different audio devices such as  a USB mic and system output.
[06:17] <OvenWerk1> Jack doesn't really like it either but at least it is possible.
[06:21] <pragomer> ok.. I did not yet try both, playback and recording via my usb-interface focusrite scarlett 18i6
[06:21] <pragomer> so there could come some surprises
[06:21] <OvenWerk1> that should be fine, you are using the same interface for both in and out
[06:21] <pragomer> ah ok..
[06:22] <OvenWerk1> The problem is people buying those cheap "pro" USB mics
[06:22] <pragomer> but yesterday I discovered that I could play fluidsynth via my usb-keyboard (evolution mk-something...) but not while I press record.. but this can be a different problem.
[06:23] <OvenWerk1> that is just routing.
[06:24] <OvenWerk1> I don't rememeber the answer to that one... I am running a very alpha version of Ardour right now (6.0 alpha) which works different in that exact area.
[06:24] <OvenWerk1> but do ask in #ardour.
[06:29] <pragomer> ok.. but thank you very much for your help. very kind. I hope I will get everything I need to work under linux so that this last "bastion" of non-free-software will fall too in the future in m y household ;-)
[06:33] <OvenWerk1> anyway, I am off to bed. If there are more questions you can leave them and I will answer in the morning :) If you irc is still running
[06:34] <pragomer> thanks and goodnight (whereever u are). here in germany I just begun my day ;-)
[06:34] <OvenWerk1> I am the west coast of Canada
[06:35] <OvenWerk1> Its not real late (1035 pm) but I have to get up early tomorrow
[06:37] <pragomer> depending on someone's age 1035pm CAN be very late *LOL*
[06:37] <pragomer> cu
[07:04] <pragomer> mm. does it have licence-background that linuxsampler isnt part of ubuntu-studio like it is for example in kxstudio: http://i.imgur.com/AguT1Kf.png ?
[10:45] <studio-user524> hello
[15:56] <OvenWerk1> pragomer: linuxsampler has licencing that makes hard to package. LS is also harder to use having 16 outputs.