tgBot3 | <andreasimonetti> @Andreas, i never had any problem installing ubports on nexus4..i am not sure about what is your problem but after many attempts i think there is one thing you shall do.. clear the cache.. but i don't remeber how to.. maybe someone else can give you a hint.. | 00:01 |
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tgBot3 | <ignorare> @Stereofont, Thank you very much Lionel! In the past I always thought UBports does not work using Android 6 Kernel yet... :-) | 02:31 |
tgBot3 | <ignorare> @wayneoutthere, Yeah Wayne, Lionel answered it! Thank you! | 02:32 |
tgBot3 | <wayneoutthere> @ignorare, That Lionel is actually a bot. People aren't that resourceful... | 03:03 |
tgBot3 | <ignorare> @wayneoutthere, Is this true?? :-) | 03:05 |
tgBot3 | <wayneoutthere> No | 03:58 |
tgBot3 | <ignorare> https://puri.sm/posts/librem-5-phone-progress-report-the-first-of-many-more-to-come/ | 04:02 |
tgBot3 | <technicalbird> @ignorare, I am really excited about librem 5. After i.mx8 my expectations are much more.. | 05:51 |
tgBot3 | <rogieroudshoorn> it' | 07:47 |
tgBot3 | <rogieroudshoorn> i expect it to be open, not to be a superfast flagship | 07:51 |
tgBot3 | <Schyken> I expect it to be both, hopefully, one day. :D | 07:52 |
tgBot3 | <rogieroudshoorn> NXP is about to be bought by qualcomm - there's little chance of them actually competing here | 07:53 |
tgBot3 | <TomasOqvist> @Andreas, Have you tried 'sudo ubports-installer' from the terminal? | 08:54 |
tgBot3 | <Stereofont> @rogieroudshoorn, +1 | 09:23 |
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tgBot3 | miguel was added by: miguel | 09:57 |
tgBot3 | <miguel> Hi | 09:57 |
tgBot3 | <popescu_sorin> sup | 09:57 |
tgBot3 | <miguel> I've a problem with the installer | 09:58 |
tgBot3 | <peternerlich> Hello miguel! I'm part of the Welcoming Team. To get started, please take a look at https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome | 09:58 |
tgBot3 | <peternerlich> For install problems, please come to the Newcomers Room (Wlcome&Install) to keep the supergroup from flooding with install debug | 09:59 |
tgBot3 | <dohbee> @rogieroudshoorn, Competing with whom? And on what grounds? They aren't trying to compete with iPhone X on hardware. | 10:37 |
tgBot3 | <rogieroudshoorn> competing with qualcomm / mediatek on smarthphone chips | 10:37 |
tgBot3 | <rogieroudshoorn> they'll stick to the lower end stuff like automotive i presume | 10:38 |
rah | ubport-installer tells me: "Uncaught error: ENOENT: no such file or directory, chmod '/tmp/tmp-25752Xayg2X5x0Ydz/fastboot' (MainRenderer:250)" | 11:33 |
rah | it also tells me it in a text box where I can't select the text in order to copy-and-paste | 11:34 |
rah | I'm trying to install on a Nexus 5 | 11:34 |
tgBot3 | <stuiterveer> @wayneoutthere, I for one welcome our robotic overlords | 12:06 |
tgBot3 | TobyTangle was added by: TobyTangle | 12:27 |
tgBot3 | <wayneoutthere> @stuiterveer, Eeks. | 12:31 |
tgBot3 | <unknown> I have read about UT on the Raspberry Pi - can someone tell more about it, please | 13:29 |
tgBot3 | <dohbee> It's not, I guess | 13:34 |
tgBot3 | <Dejavu_Dmitry> (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/b3MoCDv4/file_3835.mp4 | 13:39 |
tgBot3 | <alan_griffiths> @unknown, That sounds like UbuntuCore, not UT | 13:42 |
tgBot3 | <unknown> @alan_griffiths, Ubuntu Mate is available for the RasPi - but somebody have said something about UT on RasPi... somewhere 🤔 | 13:45 |
tgBot3 | <wayneoutthere> @unknown, UT does not work on raspberry pi (yet) although there are a lot of people who believe this would be a good 'port'. Currently it's 'not working on Ubuntu Touch' but yes, there are core Ubuntu installs that work I believe (Maybe Mate?) | 13:51 |
tgBot3 | <dohbee> @alan_griffiths, i think people were talking about wanting it on pi (specifically on zerophone or whatever) | 13:52 |
tgBot3 | Jimmie Johnsson was added by: Jimmie Johnsson | 13:57 |
tgBot3 | <unknown> @wayneoutthere, Interesting - it just came up in my mind as I read about Linux kernel 4.15 including driver for Raspberry's Touch display | 14:03 |
tgBot3 | <unknown> @dohbee, I have just looked up zerophone - funny project … UT on Raspberry Pi would definitely be good for public attention | 14:07 |
rah | debug: fastboot: wait for device | 14:08 |
rah | debug: Running platform tool exec asar cmd echo MyFsckingPassword | sudo -S fastboot devices | 14:08 |
rah | info: Download startCheck | 14:08 |
rah | uh | 14:08 |
rah | dafuq? | 14:08 |
tgBot3 | <rogieroudshoorn> @dohbee, I guess for devices that run mainline ubuntu (that's what a Pi can do right?) they can just hook up the ubports ppa? | 14:10 |
tgBot3 | <rogieroudshoorn> or did i miss something? | 14:10 |
tgBot3 | <dohbee> @rogieroudshoorn, but that isn't the same as the phone/tablet. there are some differences in experience there. lots of stuff is strongly tied to the android HAL, especially in the arm builds | 14:15 |
tgBot3 | <GiovanniStaiano> Will the browser be updated to support Google+? | 14:16 |
tgBot3 | <GiovanniStaiano> (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/TFxrEIZF/file_3837.jpg | 14:17 |
tgBot3 | <dohbee> so yes, you can probably run a basic unity8 setup that way, but it will have some issues | 14:17 |
rah | why is the installer displaying my password in its terminal output? | 14:20 |
rah | let me rephrase that: | 14:20 |
rah | THE INSTALLER IS DISPLAYING MY PASSWORD IN ITS TERMINAL OUTPUT | 14:20 |
rah | THAT'S BAD BEYOND WORDS | 14:21 |
rah | YOU NEED TO MAKE IT NOT DO THAT | 14:21 |
tgBot3 | <UniversalSuperBox> Pull Requests are always welcome | 14:22 |
rah | le tme rephrase that: | 14:23 |
rah | DISPLAYING THE USER'S PASSWORD IN THE TERMINAL OUTPUT OF A PROGRAM IS SOMETHING YOU SHOULD NEVER DO | 14:23 |
tgBot3 | <UniversalSuperBox> I'm sorry the software you got for free isn't of admissable quality for you. I agree this is a problem, but I don't agree with your method of reporting it. | 14:23 |
rah | PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU NEVER DO THAT EVER AGAIN IN ANY SOFTWARE ANY OF YOU WRITE EVER | 14:23 |
tgBot3 | <DanChapman> Shouting in here isn't going to fix it | 14:24 |
tgBot3 | <lungwitz> (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/QArLxZE2/file_3838 | 14:24 |
tgBot3 | <lungwitz> @rah, You're welcome to fix it | 14:24 |
tgBot3 | <wayneoutthere> Hold on, I'm getting my popcorn... | 14:24 |
tgBot3 | <DC7IA> (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/0d40k0DJ/file_3839.mp4 | 14:24 |
tgBot3 | <wayneoutthere> Ok go | 14:24 |
tgBot3 | <DanChapman> @wayneoutthere, with butter on? If so i'll join you | 14:25 |
tgBot3 | <Gorsh2> Once again: this not support, this is a community. | 14:25 |
tgBot3 | <wayneoutthere> no no time. just salt | 14:25 |
tgBot3 | <Gorsh2> Lots of salt, it seems :) | 14:25 |
tgBot3 | <DanChapman> Ah ok that'll have to do then | 14:25 |
tgBot3 | <malditobastardo> sweet popcorn with sugar | 14:25 |
tgBot3 | <malditobastardo> hmmm | 14:25 |
tgBot3 | <lungwitz> @malditobastardo, +1 | 14:25 |
tgBot3 | <lungwitz> Depends on the occasion, though | 14:25 |
tgBot3 | <lungwitz> If it's with a beer, salt all the way | 14:26 |
tgBot3 | <wayneoutthere> I'd use a regular popper but only time for microwave | 14:26 |
tgBot3 | <wayneoutthere> it's morning 6am so coffee and popcorn | 14:26 |
tgBot3 | <wayneoutthere> ok let's rock | 14:26 |
tgBot3 | <lungwitz> Hahaha | 14:26 |
tgBot3 | <malditobastardo> 😹😹 | 14:26 |
tgBot3 | <lungwitz> Right. Forgot about time difference | 14:26 |
tgBot3 | <wayneoutthere> HEY! I'VE GOT SOMETHING TO SAY! I'VE NOTICED NONE OF YOU LOSERS HAVE LISTENED TO THE RECENT AUDIOCAST!! ALL OF YOU CAN GIT!!! | 14:27 |
tgBot3 | <lungwitz> 👀 | 14:27 |
tgBot3 | <UniversalSuperBox> (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/uTklKsM6/file_3840.mp4 | 14:27 |
tgBot3 | <wayneoutthere> HEY!! | 14:28 |
tgBot3 | <malditobastardo> America the continent? | 14:28 |
tgBot3 | <wayneoutthere> But on a bright note.. we have a new news@ubports.com email address. You can send your news there | 14:28 |
bshah | I am not sure if this is topic for popcorn.. no seriously.. ffs | 14:28 |
tgBot3 | <wayneoutthere> and.... thoes Photopea updates are cool | 14:28 |
tgBot3 | <malditobastardo> Photopea got a new update today | 14:29 |
tgBot3 | <wayneoutthere> that's a really cool website too from browser. it's like GIMP in a browser | 14:29 |
tgBot3 | <wayneoutthere> Ok is that stuff above buried yet? | 14:29 |
tgBot3 | <wayneoutthere> nice | 14:29 |
tgBot3 | <wayneoutthere> back to Ubuntu Touch | 14:29 |
tgBot3 | n_dkz was added by: n_dkz | 14:32 |
tgBot3 | <TartanSpartan> There are two America the continents. | 14:33 |
tgBot3 | <unknown> https://github.com/ubports/ubports-installer/issues/54 | 14:37 |
tgBot3 | <unknown> @rah, There is already an issue on GitHub | 14:37 |
tgBot3 | <Gorsh2> @TartanSpartan, Depends on the definition. | 14:48 |
tgBot3 | <Gorsh2> (I know, OT, but: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boundaries_between_the_continents_of_Earth ) | 14:51 |
rah | now that the thing that prints my password has managed to install things on my phone, I'm actually really impressed | 14:52 |
tgBot3 | <malditobastardo> where is central america? | 14:53 |
tgBot3 | <unknown> @rah, 🤣 | 14:56 |
rah | unknown: ! | 14:57 |
rah | what is used for contacts, evolution-data-server? | 14:59 |
tgBot3 | <unknown> @rah, I sent a laughing emoji. Did you only see a ? | 15:00 |
rah | unknown: http://settrans.net/~rah/misc/what-i-saw.png | 15:04 |
tgBot3 | <dohbee> @rah, yes | 15:05 |
rah | dohbee: via libfolks, or as-is? | 15:06 |
tgBot3 | <dohbee> @rah, no libfolks. the Qt API is used on top. syncevolution is also used for google/owncloud/etc | 15:09 |
rah | I see, thanks | 15:10 |
rah | yeah I can see a lot of Qt | 15:11 |
rah | https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/dialer-app/trunk/view/head:/src/dialerapplication.cpp | 15:11 |
rah | is launchpad the upstream for dialer-app? | 15:11 |
tgBot3 | <Andreas> @TomasOqvist, Actually not yet. That might be my last option actually, that or buy a brand new USB cable... have only tried the five I have here so far :-P. … Haven't had the time to find out, yet, how to get that installer.... ok downloaded .deb-Package fro installer, running it now. … Will install 15.04 stable first. When using ubuntu-device-flash, it says it's only build 2 of that channel. does that mean it's rather old, or is it just that | 15:12 |
tgBot3 | have been only a very selected number of builds uploaded to that chanel and No. 2 is quite recent? | 15:12 |
tgBot3 | <padraic7a> @rah, It would have been but ubports have moved things to github. The dialler app is here now: https://github.com/ubports/dialer-app | 15:13 |
tgBot3 | <Andreas> Or put another way: The instructions on ubports.com tell you to user 15.04/devel for ubuntu-device-flash. Which way whould I go? | 15:14 |
rah | padraic7a: gotcha, thanks | 15:14 |
rah | https://elinux.org/images/c/cf/Ubuntu_Touch_Internals_1.pdf | 15:18 |
tgBot3 | <Andreas> The good piece of news is, that the installer apparently is able to move beyond the recovery dialog: it entered Recovery and is now downloading the actual system files. … ubuntu-device-flash and MDT never got to that point always "waiting for the device to enter recovery" and eventually "failed to enter recovery" despite the fact that Recovery more was active. … ... now pushing files... this looks so promising! Thanks Tomas for pushing me into | 15:18 |
tgBot3 | direction again. | 15:18 |
rah | these slides mention a network-manager plugin for ofono | 15:18 |
rah | but I can't find anything under https://github.com/ubports/ | 15:18 |
rah | did the plugin go upstream? | 15:18 |
tgBot3 | <dohbee> @rah, i'm not sure what plug-in that would be | 15:22 |
rah | dohbee: on page 16 of that document, it's talking about using this plugin to get data over the cellular connection | 15:23 |
rah | ○ No support to talk with oFono (oFono was only compatible with ConnMan) | 15:24 |
rah | ○ New plugin created that talks to oFono and helps setting the data connection | 15:24 |
rah | apparently that went upstream ages ago | 15:27 |
rah | I see there's a telepathy-ofono but no telepathy-ring | 15:30 |
rah | and it looks like telepathy-ofono's upstream is UT | 15:30 |
tgBot3 | <dohbee> @rah, ok. that's a very old presentation. i'm not sure what plug-in it means. i don't recall an extra plug-in for network-manager there | 15:30 |
rah | how come you guys didn't use telepathy-ring? | 15:30 |
tgBot3 | <dohbee> why are you asking questions about why canonical made certain decisions? | 15:31 |
tgBot3 | <dohbee> i guess the ubports devs don't know the answers, and the few people who were at canonical who hang in here, probably don't know either | 15:31 |
rah | dohbee: I wasn't asked canonical, I was asking those present in this IRC channel :-) | 15:38 |
rah | oops | 15:38 |
rah | dohbee: because the people who made those decisions, or were aware of the reasoning behind those decisions, may be present | 15:38 |
tgBot3 | <ebetonro> @wayneoutthere, Work hours man wait for me to get hone | 15:44 |
rah | https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/telepathy-ofono/legacy/revision/67 | 15:45 |
rah | looks like it was ported to ofono from something called "Ufa" to do with android | 15:46 |
rah | I'm guessing that was some libhybris-alike interface for android modem bits | 15:46 |
tgBot3 | <skrech> Hey guys, will bq e4.5 get the xenial update when it's ready? | 15:54 |
tgBot3 | <dohbee> @rah, there are very few people who worked on the phone at canonical, in this chat. android/hybris is a reason for a lot of things, for sure. | 15:56 |
tgBot3 | <dohbee> @skrech, 16.04 can already be installed from a devel build. it's pretty unstable though. | 15:56 |
tgBot3 | <AlexiPistonrod> What is the ETC for the 16.04 /stable build of ubports then ? | 15:59 |
tgBot3 | <AlexiPistonrod> June/July ? | 15:59 |
tgBot3 | <UniversalSuperBox> https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/milestone/8 | 15:59 |
tgBot3 | <AlexiPistonrod> Just curious when it will be a OTA update that is all ;) | 16:00 |
tgBot3 | <NotKit> Ubuntu Tablet is supported by 16.04? | 16:02 |
tgBot3 | <UniversalSuperBox> Sure | 16:05 |
tgBot3 | <AlexiPistonrod> Bloody hope so ;) its just started becoming usable again | 16:08 |
tgBot6 | <Javacookies> any chance we get 16.04 builds for Nexus 7 2013? | 16:12 |
tgBot6 | <matv1> @UniversalSuperBox hey Dalton, I notice that Stats have been offline for a couple of days now. Do you know whatup? | 16:40 |
tgBot6 | <UniversalSuperBox> Er, no. No I do not. | 16:41 |
tgBot6 | <matv1> just wondering if someone in particular shld be notified? | 16:41 |
tgBot6 | <matv1> not that we wont live otherwise but still | 16:42 |
tgBot6 | <rogieroudshoorn> and not that the stats were remotely true ;) | 16:46 |
tgBot6 | <Mental Ataxia> Hey guys - so here's one I don't quite understand. Maybe I'm missing something. On the MaruOS website, there's a page showing peripherals known to be compatible with the Nexus 5 and for convergence. Amongst them a wireless Bluetooth mouse.. but it has a receiver.... What am I missing here. | 16:58 |
tgBot6 | <YougoChats> Some BT mice also have RF dongles for use when no BT is available. Or to switch between devices without having to resync BT | 17:00 |
tgBot6 | <Mental Ataxia> Yes, I understand that but for convergence it's unusable | 17:04 |
tgBot6 | <Javacookies> well if you don't connect to a monitor, you can use it via OTG :) | 17:08 |
tgBot6 | <Javacookies> but for MaruOS, it doesn't make sense I think 😁 | 17:09 |
tgBot6 | <Javacookies> unless it works via Miracast...does it? | 17:10 |
tgBot6 | <Michele> @Mental Ataxia, why? what @YougoChats said is that you can use that mouse with bluetooth (so without the dongle) or with the dongle, if I am right. so in your case you can use only with bluetooth | 17:18 |
tgBot6 | <Mental Ataxia> Michele Issue is I tried to connect to it, but no signal came up. I'll have to try again later | 18:01 |
tgBot6 | <Mental Ataxia> and I know what @Youg | 18:01 |
tgBot6 | <Michele> was the mouse in pairing mode? | 18:02 |
tgBot6 | James Cameron was added by: James Cameron | 18:11 |
tgBot6 | <Stereofont> @James Cameron, Welcome James! Ask questions, join in. Glad to have you in our community. https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome for lots of newcomer information 🚪 | 18:16 |
tgBot6 | <dohbee> @Mental Ataxia, If the special dongle is required, then it's not truly a Bluetooth device. | 18:19 |
tgBot6 | <Javacookies> or a stupidly designed product :P | 18:22 |
tgBot6 | <Javacookies> imagine having a dongle that has a bluetooth receiver,LOL | 18:23 |
tgBot6 | <Mental Ataxia> Trying to figure out how to get it in pairing mode. It simply has an on/off button | 18:41 |
tgBot6 | <Mental Ataxia> Luckily it was cheap, but if it doesn't work.. then wow | 18:43 |
tgBot6 | <dohbee> @Javacookies, many do. i have a presenter thing, which came with a bluetooth dongle. but it is bluetooth | 18:46 |
tgBot6 | <dohbee> @Mental Ataxia, common way is "hold power button until led starts blinking red/blue" or something similar | 18:47 |
tgBot6 | <Mental Ataxia> It's a switch, otherwise yeah that would be what I'd expect too | 18:48 |
tgBot6 | <Mental Ataxia> The switch doesn't have a 'mid' option either | 18:48 |
tgBot6 | <dohbee> oh | 18:50 |
tgBot6 | <dohbee> then there should be a separate button i would think | 18:50 |
tgBot6 | <dohbee> perhaps inside battery cover | 18:50 |
tgBot6 | <Mental Ataxia> It's rechargeable via usb. I think it's not Bluetooth. The eBay page I bought it from says Wireless Bluetooth 2.4ghz, it probably needs the receiver. | 18:52 |
tgBot6 | <Mental Ataxia> I mean, it'll be Bluetooth just dependant on the receiver, which back to my initial stump, makes little sense to use on a project like this xD | 18:53 |
tgBot6 | <Stereofont> @Mental Ataxia, I think they are usually paired already | 19:11 |
tgBot6 | <James Cameron> @Mental Ataxia, Can you send a link. I can view the item and try and get better information on pairing it. | 19:36 |
tgBot6 | <dohbee> it's probably not actually bluetooth | 19:42 |
tgBot6 | <dohbee> it's probably just cheap chinese wireless mouse | 19:43 |
tgBot6 | <unknown> Nice installation video on YouTube … Please add download links in description 😉 | 19:44 |
tgBot6 | <Cesar_Herrera> If the mouse has not written the word Bluetooth, nearly sure it's not. | 19:45 |
tgBot6 | <dohbee> which mouse is it? i don't see any ebay links on maru site | 19:48 |
tgBot6 | <Mental Ataxia> Seems it was a cheap knockoff from one of the unsupported ones. I didn't pick it up myself, was just looking to test it, but that about rounds it off hah Onto the next | 20:02 |
tgBot6 | <Mental Ataxia> http://maruos.com/#/accessories ---> Under unsupported | 20:02 |
tgBot6 | falza_persona was added by: falza_persona | 20:52 |
tgBot6 | SvendOlaf was added by: SvendOlaf | 20:58 |
tgBot6 | <UniversalSuperBox> You wanna know the real porting experience? | 21:23 |
tgBot6 | <UniversalSuperBox> (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/I4JT6ov0/file_3842.mp4 | 21:23 |
tgBot6 | <UniversalSuperBox> At this point it has started and stopped so many processes that Upstart is having trouble determining running processes | 21:26 |
tgBot6 | <chhahn> what that? | 21:27 |
tgBot6 | <UniversalSuperBox> That's `dmesg` on a very, very upset Moto G5 Plus | 21:27 |
tgBot6 | <chhahn> u trying to port ubport to this device? | 21:28 |
tgBot6 | <UniversalSuperBox> Yes, I'm trying to port Ubuntu Touch to this device | 21:28 |
tgBot6 | <UniversalSuperBox> I wouldn't go out and buy one, though. It's slow progress. | 21:28 |
tgBot6 | <UniversalSuperBox> I'm mostly using it to improve Halium itsel | 21:29 |
tgBot6 | <chhahn> what to do to become a porter? how does ur devloping enviroment look like? | 21:30 |
tgBot6 | <chhahn> are ther docs/wiki/etc about that? | 21:30 |
tgBot6 | <chhahn> there | 21:30 |
tgBot6 | <chhahn> or: how can I flash my current device with my own rootfs? | 21:31 |
tgBot6 | <UniversalSuperBox> Our porting docs currently sit at https://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/porting/introduction.html | 21:35 |
tgBot6 | <Crash_Burn> Welcome @falza_persona and @SvendOlaf ! I'm part of the Welcoming Team. To get started, please check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome and feel free to ask any question, especially in the Newcomers Room! | 21:52 |
tgBot6 | jelkner was added by: jelkner | 21:55 |
tgBot6 | <jelkner> Hi all. I just purchased a One Plus One so I could use Ubuntu Touch, but the installer won't detect it. | 21:57 |
tgBot6 | <jelkner> Sorry, I need to go to the Welcome and Install group | 21:58 |
tgBot6 | <chhahn> @UniversalSuperBox, thx | 22:02 |
tgBot6 | <peternerlich> @jelkner, Don't worry. As you probably already know, https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome gets you all the most important information. But, first of all, welcome! 😄 | 22:02 |
tgBot7 | <Stereofont> Can UT connect to hidden WiFi networks? | 23:44 |
tgBot7 | <rubencarneiro> @Stereofont, dont think so | 23:45 |
tgBot7 | <Stereofont> @rubencarneiro, Yes, apparently | 23:45 |
tgBot7 | <dohbee> Yes it can | 23:53 |
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