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tgBot3<andreasimonetti> @Andreas, i never had any problem installing ubports on nexus4..i am not sure about what is your problem but after many attempts i think there is one thing you shall do.. clear the cache.. but i don't remeber how to.. maybe someone else can give you a hint..00:01
tgBot3<ignorare> @Stereofont, Thank you very much Lionel! In the past I always thought UBports does not work using Android 6 Kernel yet... :-)02:31
tgBot3<ignorare> @wayneoutthere, Yeah Wayne, Lionel answered it! Thank you!02:32
tgBot3<wayneoutthere> @ignorare, That Lionel is actually a bot. People aren't that resourceful...03:03
tgBot3<ignorare> @wayneoutthere, Is this true?? :-)03:05
tgBot3<wayneoutthere> No03:58
tgBot3<ignorare> https://puri.sm/posts/librem-5-phone-progress-report-the-first-of-many-more-to-come/04:02
tgBot3<technicalbird> @ignorare, I am really excited about librem 5. After i.mx8 my expectations are much more..05:51
tgBot3<rogieroudshoorn> it'07:47
tgBot3<rogieroudshoorn> i expect it to be open, not to be a superfast flagship07:51
tgBot3<Schyken> I expect it to be both, hopefully, one day. :D07:52
tgBot3<rogieroudshoorn> NXP is about to be bought by qualcomm - there's little chance of them actually competing here07:53
tgBot3<TomasOqvist> @Andreas, Have you tried 'sudo ubports-installer' from the terminal?08:54
tgBot3<Stereofont> @rogieroudshoorn, +109:23
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tgBot3miguel was added by: miguel09:57
tgBot3<miguel> Hi09:57
tgBot3<popescu_sorin> sup09:57
tgBot3<miguel> I've a problem with the installer09:58
tgBot3<peternerlich> Hello miguel! I'm part of the Welcoming Team. To get started, please take a look at https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome09:58
tgBot3<peternerlich> For install problems, please come to the Newcomers Room (Wlcome&Install) to keep the supergroup from flooding with install debug09:59
tgBot3<dohbee> @rogieroudshoorn, Competing with whom? And on what grounds? They aren't trying to compete with iPhone X on hardware.10:37
tgBot3<rogieroudshoorn> competing with qualcomm / mediatek on smarthphone chips10:37
tgBot3<rogieroudshoorn> they'll stick to the lower end stuff like automotive i presume10:38
rahubport-installer tells me: "Uncaught error: ENOENT: no such file or directory, chmod '/tmp/tmp-25752Xayg2X5x0Ydz/fastboot' (MainRenderer:250)"11:33
rahit also tells me it in a text box where I can't select the text in order to copy-and-paste11:34
rahI'm trying to install on a Nexus 511:34
tgBot3<stuiterveer> @wayneoutthere, I for one welcome our robotic overlords12:06
tgBot3TobyTangle was added by: TobyTangle12:27
tgBot3<wayneoutthere> @stuiterveer, Eeks.12:31
tgBot3<unknown> I have read about UT on the Raspberry Pi - can someone tell more about it, please13:29
tgBot3<dohbee> It's not, I guess13:34
tgBot3<Dejavu_Dmitry> (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/b3MoCDv4/file_3835.mp413:39
tgBot3<alan_griffiths> @unknown, That sounds like UbuntuCore, not UT13:42
tgBot3<unknown> @alan_griffiths, Ubuntu Mate is available for the RasPi - but somebody have said something about UT on RasPi... somewhere 🤔13:45
tgBot3<wayneoutthere> @unknown, UT does not work on raspberry pi (yet) although there are a lot of people who believe this would be a good 'port'.  Currently it's 'not working on Ubuntu Touch' but yes, there are core Ubuntu installs that work I believe (Maybe Mate?)13:51
tgBot3<dohbee> @alan_griffiths, i think people were talking about wanting it on pi (specifically on zerophone or whatever)13:52
tgBot3Jimmie Johnsson was added by: Jimmie Johnsson13:57
tgBot3<unknown> @wayneoutthere, Interesting - it just came up in my mind as I read about Linux kernel 4.15 including driver for Raspberry's Touch display14:03
tgBot3<unknown> @dohbee, I have just looked up zerophone - funny project … UT on Raspberry Pi would definitely be good for public attention14:07
rahdebug: fastboot: wait for device14:08
rahdebug: Running platform tool exec asar cmd echo MyFsckingPassword | sudo -S fastboot devices14:08
rahinfo: Download startCheck14:08
rahuh14:08
rahdafuq?14:08
tgBot3<rogieroudshoorn> @dohbee, I guess for devices that run mainline ubuntu (that's what a Pi can do right?) they can just hook up the ubports ppa?14:10
tgBot3<rogieroudshoorn> or did i miss something?14:10
tgBot3<dohbee> @rogieroudshoorn, but that isn't the same as the phone/tablet. there are some differences in experience there. lots of stuff is strongly tied to the android HAL, especially in the arm builds14:15
tgBot3<GiovanniStaiano> Will the browser be updated to support Google+?14:16
tgBot3<GiovanniStaiano> (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/TFxrEIZF/file_3837.jpg14:17
tgBot3<dohbee> so yes, you can probably run a basic unity8 setup that way, but it will have some issues14:17
rahwhy is the installer displaying my password in its terminal output?14:20
rahlet me rephrase that:14:20
rahTHE INSTALLER IS DISPLAYING MY PASSWORD IN ITS TERMINAL OUTPUT14:20
rahTHAT'S BAD BEYOND WORDS14:21
rahYOU NEED TO MAKE IT NOT DO THAT14:21
tgBot3<UniversalSuperBox> Pull Requests are always welcome14:22
rahle tme rephrase that:14:23
rahDISPLAYING THE USER'S PASSWORD IN THE TERMINAL OUTPUT OF A PROGRAM IS SOMETHING YOU SHOULD NEVER DO14:23
tgBot3<UniversalSuperBox> I'm sorry the software you got for free isn't of admissable quality for you. I agree this is a problem, but I don't agree with your method of reporting it.14:23
rahPLEASE MAKE SURE YOU NEVER DO THAT EVER AGAIN IN ANY SOFTWARE ANY OF YOU WRITE EVER14:23
tgBot3<DanChapman> Shouting in here isn't going to fix it14:24
tgBot3<lungwitz> (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/QArLxZE2/file_383814:24
tgBot3<lungwitz> @rah, You're welcome to fix it14:24
tgBot3<wayneoutthere> Hold on, I'm getting my popcorn...14:24
tgBot3<DC7IA> (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/0d40k0DJ/file_3839.mp414:24
tgBot3<wayneoutthere> Ok go14:24
tgBot3<DanChapman> @wayneoutthere, with butter on? If so i'll join you14:25
tgBot3<Gorsh2> Once again: this not support, this is a community.14:25
tgBot3<wayneoutthere> no no time. just salt14:25
tgBot3<Gorsh2> Lots of salt, it seems :)14:25
tgBot3<DanChapman> Ah ok that'll have to do then14:25
tgBot3<malditobastardo> sweet popcorn with sugar14:25
tgBot3<malditobastardo> hmmm14:25
tgBot3<lungwitz> @malditobastardo, +114:25
tgBot3<lungwitz> Depends on the occasion, though14:25
tgBot3<lungwitz> If it's with a beer, salt all the way14:26
tgBot3<wayneoutthere> I'd use a regular popper but only time for microwave14:26
tgBot3<wayneoutthere> it's morning 6am so coffee and popcorn14:26
tgBot3<wayneoutthere> ok let's rock14:26
tgBot3<lungwitz> Hahaha14:26
tgBot3<malditobastardo> 😹😹14:26
tgBot3<lungwitz> Right. Forgot about time difference14:26
tgBot3<wayneoutthere> HEY! I'VE GOT SOMETHING TO SAY! I'VE NOTICED NONE OF YOU LOSERS HAVE LISTENED TO THE RECENT AUDIOCAST!!  ALL OF YOU CAN GIT!!!14:27
tgBot3<lungwitz> 👀14:27
tgBot3<UniversalSuperBox> (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/uTklKsM6/file_3840.mp414:27
tgBot3<wayneoutthere> HEY!!14:28
tgBot3<malditobastardo> America the continent?14:28
tgBot3<wayneoutthere> But on a bright note.. we have a new news@ubports.com email address.  You can send your news there14:28
bshahI am not sure if this is topic for popcorn.. no seriously.. ffs14:28
tgBot3<wayneoutthere> and.... thoes Photopea updates are cool14:28
tgBot3<malditobastardo> Photopea got a new update today14:29
tgBot3<wayneoutthere> that's a really cool website too from browser.  it's like GIMP in a browser14:29
tgBot3<wayneoutthere> Ok is that stuff above buried yet?14:29
tgBot3<wayneoutthere> nice14:29
tgBot3<wayneoutthere> back to Ubuntu Touch14:29
tgBot3n_dkz was added by: n_dkz14:32
tgBot3<TartanSpartan> There are two America the continents.14:33
tgBot3<unknown> https://github.com/ubports/ubports-installer/issues/5414:37
tgBot3<unknown> @rah, There is already an issue on GitHub14:37
tgBot3<Gorsh2> @TartanSpartan, Depends on the definition.14:48
tgBot3<Gorsh2> (I know, OT, but: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boundaries_between_the_continents_of_Earth )14:51
rahnow that the thing that prints my password has managed to install things on my phone, I'm actually really impressed14:52
tgBot3<malditobastardo> where is central america?14:53
tgBot3<unknown> @rah, 🤣14:56
rahunknown: !14:57
rahwhat is used for contacts, evolution-data-server?14:59
tgBot3<unknown> @rah, I sent a laughing emoji. Did you only see a ?15:00
rahunknown: http://settrans.net/~rah/misc/what-i-saw.png15:04
tgBot3<dohbee> @rah, yes15:05
rahdohbee: via libfolks, or as-is?15:06
tgBot3<dohbee> @rah, no libfolks. the Qt API is used on top. syncevolution is also used for google/owncloud/etc15:09
rahI see, thanks15:10
rahyeah I can see a lot of Qt15:11
rahhttps://bazaar.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/dialer-app/trunk/view/head:/src/dialerapplication.cpp15:11
rahis launchpad the upstream for dialer-app?15:11
tgBot3<Andreas> @TomasOqvist, Actually not yet. That might be my last option actually, that or buy a brand new USB cable... have only tried the five I have here so far :-P. … Haven't had the time to find out, yet, how to get that installer.... ok downloaded .deb-Package fro installer, running it now.  … Will install 15.04 stable first. When using ubuntu-device-flash, it says it's only build 2 of that channel. does that mean it's rather old, or is it just that 15:12
tgBot3have been only a very selected number of builds uploaded to that chanel and No. 2 is quite recent?15:12
tgBot3<padraic7a> @rah, It would have been but ubports have moved things to github. The dialler app is here now: https://github.com/ubports/dialer-app15:13
tgBot3<Andreas> Or put another way: The instructions on ubports.com tell you to user 15.04/devel for ubuntu-device-flash. Which way whould I go?15:14
rahpadraic7a: gotcha, thanks15:14
rahhttps://elinux.org/images/c/cf/Ubuntu_Touch_Internals_1.pdf15:18
tgBot3<Andreas> The good piece of news is, that the installer apparently is able to move beyond the recovery dialog: it entered Recovery and is now downloading the actual system files.  … ubuntu-device-flash and MDT never got to that point always "waiting for the device to enter recovery" and eventually "failed to enter recovery" despite the fact that Recovery more was active. … ... now pushing files... this looks so promising! Thanks Tomas for pushing me into15:18
tgBot3direction again.15:18
rahthese slides mention a network-manager plugin for ofono15:18
rahbut I can't find anything under https://github.com/ubports/15:18
rahdid the plugin go upstream?15:18
tgBot3<dohbee> @rah, i'm not sure what plug-in that would be15:22
rahdohbee: on page 16 of that document, it's talking about using this plugin to get data over the cellular connection15:23
rah○ No support to talk with oFono (oFono was only compatible with  ConnMan)15:24
rah○ New plugin created that talks to oFono and helps setting the data connection15:24
rahapparently that went upstream ages ago15:27
rahI see there's a telepathy-ofono but no telepathy-ring15:30
rahand it looks like telepathy-ofono's upstream is UT15:30
tgBot3<dohbee> @rah, ok. that's a very old presentation. i'm not sure what plug-in it means. i don't recall an extra plug-in for network-manager there15:30
rahhow come you guys didn't use telepathy-ring?15:30
tgBot3<dohbee> why are you asking questions about why canonical made certain decisions?15:31
tgBot3<dohbee> i guess the ubports devs don't know the answers, and the few people who were at canonical who hang in here, probably don't know either15:31
rahdohbee: I wasn't asked canonical, I was asking those present in this IRC channel :-)15:38
rahoops15:38
rahdohbee: because the people who made those decisions, or were aware of the reasoning behind those decisions, may be present15:38
tgBot3<ebetonro> @wayneoutthere, Work hours man wait for me to get hone15:44
rahhttps://bazaar.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/telepathy-ofono/legacy/revision/6715:45
rahlooks like it was ported to ofono from something called "Ufa" to do with android15:46
rahI'm guessing that was some libhybris-alike interface for android modem bits15:46
tgBot3<skrech> Hey guys, will bq e4.5 get the xenial update when it's ready?15:54
tgBot3<dohbee> @rah, there are very few people who worked on the phone at canonical, in this chat. android/hybris is a reason for a lot of things, for sure.15:56
tgBot3<dohbee> @skrech, 16.04 can already be installed from a devel build. it's pretty unstable though.15:56
tgBot3<AlexiPistonrod> What is the ETC for the 16.04 /stable build of ubports then ?15:59
tgBot3<AlexiPistonrod> June/July ?15:59
tgBot3<UniversalSuperBox> https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/milestone/815:59
tgBot3<AlexiPistonrod> Just curious when it will be a OTA update that is all ;)16:00
tgBot3<NotKit> Ubuntu Tablet is supported by 16.04?16:02
tgBot3<UniversalSuperBox> Sure16:05
tgBot3<AlexiPistonrod> Bloody hope so ;) its just started becoming usable again16:08
tgBot6<Javacookies> any chance we get 16.04 builds for Nexus 7 2013?16:12
tgBot6<matv1> @UniversalSuperBox hey Dalton, I notice that Stats have been offline for a couple of days now. Do you know whatup?16:40
tgBot6<UniversalSuperBox> Er, no. No I do not.16:41
tgBot6<matv1> just wondering if someone in particular shld be notified?16:41
tgBot6<matv1> not that we wont live otherwise but still16:42
tgBot6<rogieroudshoorn> and not that the stats were remotely true ;)16:46
tgBot6<Mental Ataxia> Hey guys - so here's one I don't quite understand. Maybe I'm missing something. On the MaruOS website, there's a page showing peripherals known to be compatible with the Nexus 5 and for convergence. Amongst them a wireless Bluetooth mouse.. but it has a receiver.... What am I missing here.16:58
tgBot6<YougoChats> Some BT mice also have RF dongles for use when no BT is available. Or to switch between devices without having to resync BT17:00
tgBot6<Mental Ataxia> Yes, I understand that  but for convergence it's unusable17:04
tgBot6<Javacookies> well if you don't connect to a monitor, you can use it via OTG :)17:08
tgBot6<Javacookies> but for MaruOS, it doesn't make sense I think 😁17:09
tgBot6<Javacookies> unless it works via Miracast...does it?17:10
tgBot6<Michele> @Mental Ataxia, why? what @YougoChats said is that you can use that mouse with bluetooth (so without the dongle) or with the dongle, if I am right. so in your case you can use only with bluetooth17:18
tgBot6<Mental Ataxia> Michele Issue is I tried to  connect to it, but no signal came up. I'll have to try again later18:01
tgBot6<Mental Ataxia> and I know what @Youg18:01
tgBot6<Michele> was the mouse in pairing mode?18:02
tgBot6James Cameron was added by: James Cameron18:11
tgBot6<Stereofont> @James Cameron, Welcome James! Ask questions, join in. Glad to have you in our community. https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome for lots of newcomer information 🚪18:16
tgBot6<dohbee> @Mental Ataxia, If the special dongle is required, then it's not truly a Bluetooth device.18:19
tgBot6<Javacookies> or a stupidly designed product :P18:22
tgBot6<Javacookies> imagine having a dongle that has a bluetooth receiver,LOL18:23
tgBot6<Mental Ataxia> Trying to figure out how to get it in pairing mode. It simply has an on/off button18:41
tgBot6<Mental Ataxia> Luckily it was cheap, but if it doesn't work.. then wow18:43
tgBot6<dohbee> @Javacookies, many do. i have a presenter thing, which came with a bluetooth dongle. but it is bluetooth18:46
tgBot6<dohbee> @Mental Ataxia, common way is "hold power button until led starts blinking red/blue" or something similar18:47
tgBot6<Mental Ataxia> It's a switch, otherwise yeah that would be what I'd expect too18:48
tgBot6<Mental Ataxia> The switch doesn't have a 'mid' option either18:48
tgBot6<dohbee> oh18:50
tgBot6<dohbee> then there should be a separate button i would think18:50
tgBot6<dohbee> perhaps inside battery cover18:50
tgBot6<Mental Ataxia> It's rechargeable via usb. I think it's not Bluetooth. The eBay page I bought it from says Wireless Bluetooth 2.4ghz, it probably needs the receiver.18:52
tgBot6<Mental Ataxia> I mean, it'll be Bluetooth just dependant on the receiver, which back to my initial stump, makes little sense to use on a project like this xD18:53
tgBot6<Stereofont> @Mental Ataxia, I think they are usually paired already19:11
tgBot6<James Cameron> @Mental Ataxia, Can you send a link. I can view the item and try and get better information on pairing it.19:36
tgBot6<dohbee> it's probably not actually bluetooth19:42
tgBot6<dohbee> it's probably just cheap chinese wireless mouse19:43
tgBot6<unknown> Nice installation video on YouTube … Please add download links in description 😉19:44
tgBot6<Cesar_Herrera> If the mouse has not written the word Bluetooth, nearly sure it's not.19:45
tgBot6<dohbee> which mouse is it? i don't see any ebay links on maru site19:48
tgBot6<Mental Ataxia> Seems it was a cheap knockoff from one of the unsupported ones. I didn't pick it up myself, was just looking to test it, but that about rounds it off hah Onto the next20:02
tgBot6<Mental Ataxia> http://maruos.com/#/accessories ---> Under unsupported20:02
tgBot6falza_persona was added by: falza_persona20:52
tgBot6SvendOlaf was added by: SvendOlaf20:58
tgBot6<UniversalSuperBox> You wanna know the real porting experience?21:23
tgBot6<UniversalSuperBox> (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/I4JT6ov0/file_3842.mp421:23
tgBot6<UniversalSuperBox> At this point it has started and stopped so many processes that Upstart is having trouble determining running processes21:26
tgBot6<chhahn> what that?21:27
tgBot6<UniversalSuperBox> That's `dmesg` on a very, very upset Moto G5 Plus21:27
tgBot6<chhahn> u trying to port ubport to this device?21:28
tgBot6<UniversalSuperBox> Yes, I'm trying to port Ubuntu Touch to this device21:28
tgBot6<UniversalSuperBox> I wouldn't go out and buy one, though. It's slow progress.21:28
tgBot6<UniversalSuperBox> I'm mostly using it to improve Halium itsel21:29
tgBot6<chhahn> what to do to become a porter? how does ur devloping enviroment look like?21:30
tgBot6<chhahn> are ther docs/wiki/etc about that?21:30
tgBot6<chhahn> there21:30
tgBot6<chhahn> or: how can I flash my current device with my own rootfs?21:31
tgBot6<UniversalSuperBox> Our porting docs currently sit at https://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/porting/introduction.html21:35
tgBot6<Crash_Burn> Welcome @falza_persona and @SvendOlaf !  I'm part of the Welcoming Team. To get started, please check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome and feel free to ask any question, especially in the Newcomers Room!21:52
tgBot6jelkner was added by: jelkner21:55
tgBot6<jelkner> Hi all.  I just purchased a One Plus One so I could use Ubuntu Touch, but the installer won't detect it.21:57
tgBot6<jelkner> Sorry, I need to go to the Welcome and Install group21:58
tgBot6<chhahn> @UniversalSuperBox, thx22:02
tgBot6<peternerlich> @jelkner, Don't worry. As you probably already know, https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome gets you all the most important information. But, first of all, welcome! 😄22:02
tgBot7<Stereofont> Can UT connect to hidden WiFi networks?23:44
tgBot7<rubencarneiro> @Stereofont, dont think so23:45
tgBot7<Stereofont> @rubencarneiro, Yes, apparently23:45
tgBot7<dohbee> Yes it can23:53

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