[06:24] morning [07:06] Morning Nafallo, willcooke [07:07] Hmm, I think I just eliminated 40% of gnome-shell's CPU usage [07:07] Let's see if we can do better than that [07:21] good morning desktoppers [07:30] salut oSoMoN [07:39] good morning === cpaelzer_ is now known as cpaelzer [07:45] good morning desktopers [07:47] salut didrocks seb128 [07:47] hey Nafallo [07:47] hello seb128, Nafallo [08:15] duflu, i need to cancel today, sorry [08:16] koza, no problem - seb and will are away anyway [08:16] So that just leaves jibel ^ [08:20] duflu, koza okay to skip. QA didnt start testing 5.48 for information [08:22] jibel, dufly, thanks and see you next week [08:22] duflu ^^ [09:03] hey [09:04] hey Laney! how are you? [09:05] hey Laney [09:07] hey seb128 didrocks [09:08] yeah I'm alright, bit tired though [09:08] you? [09:14] hey Laney, I'm fine, a bit tired as well [09:15] flu is over but my nose has been an issue and prevented me sleeping well yesterday === ecloud is now known as ecloud_wfh [10:38] hey all [10:38] Hi andyrock [10:39] * duflu EOD's [11:20] <_amano> duflu, w00t. 40% is a massive gain 🆒 [13:42] didrocks, do you feel like adding bug #1713171 to your backlog for when you have a hour slow where you feel like doing an easy MIR? [13:42] bug 1713171 in gnome-todo (Ubuntu) "[MIR] gnome-todo" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1713171 [13:43] seb128: sure! [13:44] didrocks, thanks [13:45] didrocks, want to be added to the trello card? or just keep it as an unofficial "if you have a slot and feel like doing that"? [13:46] seb128: hum, as you prefer, I have a tab opened which is enough for me, if you prefer to have MIR as trello cards, this is doable [13:46] didrocks, they are in the board, that card is in the blocked items column [13:46] just wondering if we keep it like that [13:47] or if you prefer to have you added and the card moved back to the backlog [13:47] seb128: ah, no, just assign it to me in that case [13:47] k [13:47] thanks [13:47] and move it to backlog [13:47] thanks [13:59] didrocks, Trevinho, https://trello.com/c/yRe9PoQC/4-shortcut-help-dialog-on-long-super-press is a wontfix for this cycle right? or do you still hope to get design/work/reviews|distro patch on that? [14:00] seb128: it's something that upstream is currently doing for 3.28 [14:00] I think we'll need to tweak it a little bit, hence I kept the card [14:01] oh ok, I didn't know that [14:01] do you have any reference to the work we could add to the card? [14:03] seb128: I can find some, will do, but want to finish my current task while I'm at it [14:05] didrocks, yeah, sorry, I stop bothering you :) [14:06] hey kenvandine, wb; had nice holidays? [14:06] hey seb128 [14:06] indeed, i had a great vacation [14:07] seb128, how have you been? [14:08] hey willcooke [14:10] kenvandine, had been better, got the flu, was feverish and shivering for several days, including while sitting 11hours in a plane [14:10] oh no [14:10] kenvandine, I spent sunday in bed here and got back on shape for monday morning so somewhat good timing [14:10] for some definition of good :) [14:10] yeah :) [14:19] Laney, hi [14:20] Laney, is there a way with a "remove" UDEV rule to get rid of the "loaded active plugged" state of the printer device on systemd? [14:22] xnox: ^^ [14:28] kenvandine, can you have a look at bug 934291? I need cups-pk-helper sponsored. [14:28] bug 934291 in cups-pk-helper (Ubuntu) "Deleting or stopping print jobs does not work" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/934291 [14:42] tkamppeter: that's supposed to happen automatically, I think you have some kind of bug if it's not [14:42] Laney, bug in UDEV or bug in systemd? [14:42] did you reboot your computer / try on a different one? [14:42] dunno [14:43] Laney, yes, I already rebooted, but do not have another computer to try. [14:44] Laney, so by unplugging or turning off the USB printer the "loaded active plugged" unit list entry should go away. without any "remove" UDEV rule? [14:45] tkamppeter, do you need that sponsored? [14:46] tkamppeter: yes, and like I say it works for the USB printer that I have [14:46] kenvandine, tkamppeter, adding a new user for that helper feels a bit weird, shouldn't use the same user than cups is or something which already exists? [14:46] kenvandine, yes, with the last patch, I think it was comment #53. [14:49] tkamppeter, this debdiff includes multiple patches [14:50] seb128, yeah, i'd hate to add a new user if we don't want to [14:50] s/want/need/ [14:50] tkamppeter, ^^ [14:51] kenvandine, I have only tested the debdiff whether it makes things work (and it does). I did not check whether it is introducing any security problem. [14:51] tedg, latest inkscape in edge starts now... woot! the openclipart search doesn't work though, perhaps you need to add the network plug [14:51] kenvandine, alternative solutions are welcome. [15:03] Laney, I am upgrading to Bionic now, probably all new, kernel, udev, and systemd, could already solve it. [15:05] kenvandine, if you think the solution with cups-pk-helper is wrong, please comment on the bug. [15:07] kenvandine, tkamppeter, I'm not saying it's wrong, but it doesn't feel optimal, I don't know enough about the cups stack to judge of the other options though (like changing the cups groups to add root) or use an existing user [15:07] yeah, i think we should ask the question [15:09] seb128, adding root would be the simplest, but Debian folks (OdyX, see comments in bug report) did not like it. Then the other guy came up with changing cups-pk-helper several time, I tested, told him that it did not work, he did more chenges, and after some cycles it worked, and now I am asking you to sponsor this version. [15:10] seb128, I personally would go the add-root way, but I do not want to add a Debian delta. [15:10] tkamppeter, so this is more likely to make it to debian? [15:10] also it seems to lower security by increasing priviledges for no good reason [15:11] how is system-config-printer doing to talk to cups? [15:11] can't cups-pk-helper do the same? [15:19] kenvandine: Woot! K, will do. [15:20] brb [15:36] didrocks: where did you find that the keybinding panel is going to be done upstream? [15:46] Trevinho: I need to find back the reference, but I swear I didn't dream of it [15:49] there is a bug about the feature but it has no recent activity [15:49] so that was not there [15:50] I'll dig when I have time for it (probably tomorrow morning) [16:02] kenvandine: I also seem to be missing the default GTK icons, not sure why that is. If you have a clue there it'd be helpful. I haven't investigated much. [16:03] kenvandine, concerning the cups-pk-helper, at least OdyX did not complain about that. [16:21] Laney, updated to Bionic, not even rebooted into the new kernel, and unplugging problem solved, has either been udev or systemd. [16:22] cool [16:22] is that worth trying to fix in artful? [16:36] seb128, kenvandine, can you have a look at avahi, the version 0.7-3ubuntu2 which one of you had sponsored seems to be stuck in -proposed for a week already, infinitely waiting for the builds on the minor architectures (all but amd64 and i386). [16:37] tkamppeter, lots of things are still stuck in proposed [16:38] kenvandine, what is happening here? Don't we have build servers for these architectures any more? [16:40] tkamppeter, they are still offline, maybe they were virtual? I'm not really sure why... but last i heard they hadn't been brought back up yet. [16:40] they're off due to Spectre [16:41] we just need to be patient [16:41] afraid so, spare a thought for the kernel team ? [16:42] maybe send beer and snacks their way :) [16:44] at least amd64 is building now, so we can get some testing in === JoseeAntonioR is now known as jose [17:04] hey, stupid question, but is there any way to know if a dconf key is locked down? [17:04] * didrocks doesn't find an API [17:04] g_settings_is_writable [17:05] ofc, no "lock" term when it's advertized everywhere with that term [17:05] (in the official doc) [17:06] however, unsure if there is a signal for writable state [17:07] writable-change-event [17:07] ok, all set! [18:12] night! [18:46] night all [20:22] jamesh: did you see the feedback at https://bugzilla.gnome.org/737362 ? [20:22] Gnome bug 737362 in Privacy "Privacy panel is missing switch to disable captive portal detection" [Normal,New]