[05:49] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[06:55] <lotuspsychje> hey EriC^^
[06:55] <EriC^^> hey lotuspsychje
[06:56] <EriC^^> what's up?
[07:04] <lotuspsychje> chill & coffee :p
[07:04] <ducasse> good morning, everyone
[07:05] <lotuspsychje> hey ducasse
[07:17] <Bashing-om> Outta here .. see yall next \o
[07:25] <lordievader> Good morning
[07:37] <oerheks> :-)
[07:37] <lordievader> Hey oerheks
[07:37] <lordievader> How are you doing?
[07:37] <oerheks> hi lordievader
[07:38] <oerheks> we are fine, just had breakfast
[07:38] <lordievader> Does it snow there too? I think ducasse is trying to move something.
[07:38] <lotuspsychje> hey lordievader
[07:39] <lordievader> Hey lotuspsychje
[07:39] <lordievader> How are you?
[07:39] <oerheks> oops
[07:40] <lotuspsychje> hey oerheks
[07:40] <lotuspsychje> all good here guys tnx
[07:40] <lordievader> 😁
[07:40] <oerheks> And you guys, surviving the nice weather?
[07:41] <lotuspsychje> here bit rainy
[07:41] <lordievader> Doing good here. Last 10 second of the ride to work it started to snow.
[07:43] <lotuspsychje> ouch
[07:45] <ducasse> finally stopped snowing here
[07:46] <lordievader> How much is there now? From the ground to the roof?
[07:48] <lotuspsychje> lordievader: https://photos.app.goo.gl/GTujVCNT5nS5ronx1
[07:48] <lotuspsychje> bigggg snow at ducasse place lol
[07:48] <lordievader> Nice photo 😉
[07:53] <ducasse> we actually got even more after that - that was taken in the morning and it snowed heavily all day :)
[07:53] <lordievader> How high does it reach now?
[07:56] <ducasse> on average, i'd say well above my knees. the veranda is all but buried, and that's over a meter.
[07:56] <lordievader> Hahaha, nice
[08:17] <oerheks> grinn, looks like #ubuntu https://www.sinn-frei.com/media/2018/27737_009.jpg
[08:33] <lotuspsychje> bbl work
[08:34] <lotuspsychje> have nice snowday :p
[08:34] <lordievader> You too
[08:34] <lotuspsychje> tnx
[08:34] <lordievader> oerheks: Hahaha, nice one
[08:50] <oerheks> bitcoin @ 10K now :-D
[10:52] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[11:05] <lordievader> 👋
[11:05] <lordievader> How are you doing BluesKaj ?
[11:06] <BluesKaj> Hi lordievader, fine here, how about you?
[11:06] <lordievader> Doing allright. Trying to optimize a parsing script.
[13:39] <jimb_> Hey there
[14:15] <pauljw> hi everyone
[14:17] <BluesKaj> 'Morning pauljw, jimb_
[14:17] <pauljw> hey BluesKaj :)
[15:32] <TJ-> oerheks: might be worth getting sruli to try with a new user account - could be user-profile specific
[15:33] <oerheks> ah, good ide
[17:24] <lotuspsychje> hey guys
[17:25] <lotuspsychje> JanC: nice app you made vrt nws
[17:28] <lotuspsychje> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/01/librem-5-update-i-mx8
[17:36] <kkremitzki> I'm looking forward to my Librem 5
[17:37] <lotuspsychje> kkremitzki: your gonna buy it?
[17:37] <kkremitzki> I already did sort of
[17:37] <lotuspsychje> cool
[17:38] <kkremitzki> I was one of the full phone backers on the crowdfunding campaign
[17:38] <kkremitzki> Just gotta hope my Nexus 6P makes it another year
[17:38] <lotuspsychje> im happy with my bq 4.5 ubports
[17:38] <lotuspsychje> and with anbox support comming up
[17:39] <lotuspsychje> curious how that will go
[17:40] <lotuspsychje> !info popularity-contest
[17:41] <kkremitzki> I have a nexus 5 running ubports as well that does decently, but I don't have actual cell service with it, only wifi, so I am not really seeing the full experience
[17:43] <lotuspsychje> kkremitzki: not handy then
[17:45] <kkremitzki> It's just an experimental device for me
[17:46] <lotuspsychje> bit pricy for just an experiment?
[17:46] <kkremitzki> Well, it was my old main phone but the screen cracked to the point where it was dicey to carry around
[17:47] <lotuspsychje> ah i see :=p
[17:47] <lotuspsychje> kkremitzki: did they not made it stable yet for nexus5?
[17:47] <kkremitzki> It was very unfortunate, I was sitting on a concrete curb and it fell out of my jacket maybe 2 feet but at just the right angle to really mangle it
[17:47] <lotuspsychje> kkremitzki: wich channel is running on it?
[17:48] <kkremitzki> I'll have to boot it and check, not sure
[17:48] <lotuspsychje> kkremitzki: ive had to change to devel on all devices myself
[17:51] <kkremitzki> As far as I know I'm running the standard install but it's having some problems (likely related to charger port damage)
[17:59] <lotuspsychje> kkremitzki: https://ubports.com/page/convergence
[17:59] <lotuspsychje> kkremitzki: you could try change it to devel channel
[18:01] <nicomachus> https://itsfoss.com/goobuntu-glinux-google/
[18:01] <lotuspsychje> yeah just read it nicomachus
[18:02] <kkremitzki> nice lotuspsychje looks like they've improved their website since I saw it last
[18:03] <lotuspsychje> kkremitzki: yeah, i had some issues on my phone first, but change to devel solved alot
[18:03] <lotuspsychje> kkremitzki: also idle in #ubports it has like 1200 telegram members already
[18:04] <kkremitzki> Looks like my charging port has finally more or less bit the dust so I had to go find my qi charger because the phone kept dying before it could boot
[18:04] <lotuspsychje> ic
[18:21] <lotuspsychje> hey BluesKaj
[18:21] <BluesKaj> hey lotuspsychje
[18:22] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: one for you http://news.softpedia.com/news/kubuntu-17-10-and-18-04-users-can-now-try-the-kde-plasma-5-12-lts-desktop-519401.shtml
[18:29] <BluesKaj> lotuspsychje, yeah installed it early this morning https://kubuntu.org/news/plasma-5-12-lts-beta-available-ppa-for-testing-on-artful-bionic/
[18:30] <lotuspsychje> cool
[18:30] <BluesKaj> just on Artful so far, haven't tried Bionic yet
[18:31] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: in this stage bionic pretty same as artful
[18:35] <BluesKaj> bionic is still slow here, needs some help
[18:41] <BluesKaj> was reluctant to install plasma 5.12 on Bionic , but here goes, BBIAB
[18:43] <kkremitzki> lotuspsychje: Are you on 15.04/devel or is 16.04 available yet
[18:44] <lotuspsychje> 15.04
[18:44] <lotuspsychje> kkremitzki: but they are testing xenial on it also
[18:44] <lotuspsychje> kkremitzki: ask about it in ubports
[18:56] <lotuspsychje> kkremitzki: you can change to devel from your existing install in options
[19:01] <lotuspsychje> welcome gunix
[19:01] <gunix> thank you
[19:02] <gunix> regarding ubuntu: do you use citrix or vpn? what tool do you use for chat? do you have any sort of LDAP?  can you install any distro you want on your device? do you get a device from the company?
[19:04] <daftykins> you're talking about technologies but not actually starting with what you want to be able to do
[19:05] <daftykins> it's like asking steel, aluminium or iron when the query should be "i want to cross this river"
[19:05] <lotuspsychje_> hey daftykins
[19:06] <gunix> lotuspsychje_: did you get my questions or did you disconnect? :D
[19:06] <lotuspsychje_> i was dc yeah
[19:06] <gunix> and there you go
[19:06] <gunix> =))
[19:06] <gunix> ok, so asking again
[19:06] <lotuspsychje_> still here
[19:06] <gunix> regarding ubuntu: do you use citrix or vpn? what tool do you use for chat? do you have any sort of LDAP?  can you install any distro you want on your device? do you get a device from the company?
[19:07] <gunix> well, it's more regarding canonical i guess ^^
[19:07] <lotuspsychje_> !info hexchat | gunix
[19:07] <daftykins> gunix: see above
[19:07] <lotuspsychje_> oh thats to nacc you gotta ask
[19:08] <gunix> lotuspsychje_: so you don't use any tool for screen sharing?
[19:08] <lotuspsychje_> im just a user here
[19:08] <gunix> oh ok
[19:08] <gunix> ok ok
[19:08] <gunix> well if nacc is kind enough to answer ^^ if he can provide the info
[19:09] <daftykins> i already pointed out your query doesn't make a lot of sense
[19:09] <lotuspsychje_> gunix: why are you interested if your not gonna apply for a job?
[19:09] <gunix> daftykins: it's part of a discussion i started with nacc on another channel, regarding how canonical treats it's employees. the subject was offtopic for that channel so i moved here
[19:10] <gunix> lotuspsychje_: did you ever have an ugly girlfriend? you still watch other girls, even if you don't want to cheat or dump her ... did that ever happen to you?
[19:10] <lordievader> ./me is also lost as to what gunix wants to know
[19:11] <gunix> lordievader, daftykins: do you work at canonical?
[19:11] <daftykins> no.
[19:11] <gunix> than you can't answer the questions :D
[19:12] <daftykins> why are you asking?
[19:12] <gunix> i wrote above, in an aswer towards lotuspsychje_
[19:12] <lotuspsychje_> i dont see the matches about canonical and and ugle gf?
[19:13] <gunix> well canonical is not the ugly gf
[19:13] <gunix> canonical is the good looking girl
[19:13] <gunix> my company is the ugly gf
[19:13] <gunix> which i can't quit
[19:13] <daftykins> i don't think you should use an example like that online
[19:13] <daftykins> bound to ruffle many feathers :)
[19:14] <lotuspsychje_> gunix: if you dream about canonical, go for it?
[19:15] <gunix> daftykins: i can't work on linux, i have to work on windows, skype is the only chat tool, citrix is mandatory and you can't use vpn instead. so the security is not based on ssh keys, it's based on passwords and AD. i guess you understand my frustration and my curiosity now
[19:16] <gunix> lotuspsychje_: i can't quit atm. there are also no linux companies in my city, or in my country ^^ there are however companies using linux, where i would feel a lot better regarding used technologies
[19:16] <lotuspsychje_> gunix: browse the homebased jobs, see what your good in, apply for one?
[19:19] <daftykins> all i understand is you're in the wrong place :)
[19:20] <gunix> daftykins: i am trying to push open source here. if it doesn't work, i will probably leave after i give it by best shot
[19:22] <pauljw> kinda preaching to the choir
[19:23] <gunix> what? how?
[19:24] <pauljw> sorry, i saw pushing here, but you didn't mean here here, you meant here there...
[19:24] <gunix> :))
[19:24] <lotuspsychje_> lol
[19:26] <daftykins> hear hear!
[19:26] <pauljw> :)
[19:26] <pauljw> that's what i get for only seeing part of the conversation...
[19:26] <lotuspsychje_> hehe
[19:27] <lotuspsychje_> check the logs pauljw ...:p
[19:27] <lotuspsychje_> its all in the logs
[19:27] <lotuspsychje_> ./var/log/ubuntu-discuss
[19:27] <gunix> he got the picture now
[19:28] <lotuspsychje_> oh..my bad
[19:28] <pauljw> yeah, i get what he's talking about now.
[19:29] <lotuspsychje_> gunix: i hear at google they can use the swimming pool also
[19:29] <lotuspsychje_> splendid for a work-brake
[19:30] <pauljw> i think it's great that you are trying, gunix, but i don't think i'd leave a job over their choice of software.  i like to eat too much.
[19:31] <gunix> pauljw: and i like to sleep at night. how can money be good, if i feel morally dissapointed about myself?
[19:32] <daftykins> ah i'd hate putting in stuff i didn't believe in, day after day - that's why i don't - am self employed and use the technologies i want :)
[19:32] <gunix> pauljw: everything i got now, my job, my money, my opportunities ... i have all this because there were people in the open source community ready to help me without asking anything in return. i had the software, the support, the friends to push me... and they did it for open source. how could I, in return, work for some people that promote propriatary software? it would mean i give nothing back,
[19:32] <gunix> except a greater challenge to overcome, by promoting other technologies
[19:33] <lotuspsychje_> tv time, ttyl
[19:33] <pauljw> later lotuspsychje_
[19:34] <lotuspsychje_> laterz ; )
[19:37] <daftykins> right tools for the job, that's all that matters - not all that
[19:37] <pauljw> all you can do is look for something that meets your standards i suppose.  good luck because as you say, they're few and far between.  there's a rock quarry over here that's always hiring you just need to learn to drive a truck, swing a sledge or pick and work in all kinds of weather.  :)
[19:43] <gunix> yea ...
[21:19] <gunix> yea so nacc is offline ... anybody else working at canonical? :D
[21:20] <daftykins> i don't think they would discuss their infrastructure
[21:20] <gunix> why not?
[21:23] <daftykins> you are a random on the internet