[00:03] <nacc> !alis | mekarpeles
[00:04] <mekarpeles> Thanks ubottu!
[00:05] <Bashing-om> RichardCavell: K; See what I can learn .. back soonest .
[00:13] <Bashing-om> RichardCavell: Well, All I know to do is try . Be aware some 32 bit apps are now broken after the latest patches . unknow to me if the breakage is a part of this :(
[00:15] <RichardCavell> Bashing-om, What exactly should I try?
[00:17] <Bashing-om> RichardCavell: Boot to grub boot menu. 'c' key for a command line . what results here ' set prefix=(hd0,gpt1)/boot/grub ' ?
[00:18] <RichardCavell> Bashing-om, I'll have to reboot and try it, and get back to you in about 15 mins
[00:18] <Bashing-om> RichardCavell: K; of that is accepted we continue on to attempt to boot up from grub .
[00:18] <Bashing-om> of/if*
[00:19] <RichardCavell> Bashing-om, Okay so I'll just reboot and try?
[00:21] <Bashing-om> ripazha: Yes .. see where we go from there .. get it booted and then we see what we can do .
[00:24] <vook> s there any reasonably simple way to direct dpkg to ignore a specific dependency on a package (without recreating the package).  LXD is unnecessarily depending on dnsmasq-base, a package that is frequently found to have security flaws.
[00:28] <nacc> vook: `man dpkg`, --ignore-depends, etc.
[00:28] <nacc> vook: although, it's not unnecessary, it depends on your config
[00:28] <nacc> vook: for normal bridged usage, you want dnsmasq
[00:28] <vook> right, it's unnecessary in our config
[00:29] <nacc> vook: maybe use the snap?
[00:29] <nacc> vook: then you don't have to worry about dependencies at all
[00:29] <vook> hmm, ok. thanks.  I'll look into it.
[00:29] <nacc> vook: presuming you trust the lxd maintainers
[00:29] <nacc> vook: may want to ask about dnsmasq in #lxcontainers
[00:36] <RichardCavell> Bashing-om, I'm back
[00:37] <RichardCavell> Bashing-om, I was able to type that into a grub command line. It simply gave me another prompt without any error or other output. I then tried to boot, but it had the same problem as before.
[00:37] <Bashing-om> RichardCavell: Can we continue to see if we can boot .. in that 'set prefix=(hd0,gpt6)/boot/grub" is accepted ?
[00:37] <RichardCavell> I used gpt1 before not gpt6
[00:38] <RichardCavell> do you want me to try with 6?
[00:43] <Bashing-om> RichardCavell: Great .. we can continue .. ok .. boot back to grub ' set prefix=(hd0,gpt1)/boot/grub ; set root=(hd0,gpt2) ; insmod normal ; normal ; insmod linux ; linux (hd0,gpt2)/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda2 ; initrd (hd0,gpt2)/initrd.img ; boot ' .
[00:44] <Bashing-om> RichardCavell: No, our partitions are gpt1 as the edi partition and gpt2 as the root .
[00:44] <Bashing-om> EFI*
[00:46] <RichardCavell> Bashing-om, By the way, that first partition is only 1 megabyte in size
[00:46] <RichardCavell> I don't know where it came from
[00:47] <Bashing-om> RichardCavell: That is the EFI partiton that contains stage 1.5 of the boot code .
[00:47] <RichardCavell> Is it normal for it to be only 1 megabyte?
[00:48] <Bashing-om> RichardCavell: Yeah .. good nuff ..it only has directives of where grub is to look next .
[01:08] <Haximus> Hey there all, I'm brand new to Linux and I've been setting up a Ubuntu server.  Had a simple question regarding SSH keys, just not fully understanding it.  Anyone have a moment to talk?
[01:09] <electricmilk> Haximus, Go ahead and ask the quetion
[01:09] <electricmilk> Haximus, If someone knows the answer they will help. :-)
[01:12] <Haximus> Excellent!  I was following along some documentation suggesting that I use SSH authentication to access my server instead of Password authorization, I later realized that I misunderstood what I read, because I generated the key pair from the actual server and not from my desktop that I am using to access my terminal
[01:14] <Haximus> So now I want to correct the mistake, but I am not sure if I should generate another key pair from the terminal on my desktop pc, and also I am curious if the fact that I generated the keypair from the server itself will cause any issues, and if I should remove it
[01:15] <Haximus> I am unable to login from my desktop pc, so I had to re-enable password authentication for the time being
[01:16] <RichardCavell> Bashing-om, Hi
[01:16] <electricmilk> Haximus, I don't remember ever having to generate the key pair.  If I remember correctly I just ran: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[01:17] <RichardCavell> I tried that sequence. It booted for about 8 seconds and then just sudden reset like before
[01:17] <RichardCavell> I couldn't see any errors in the boot sequence
[01:17] <Haximus> Its not a requirement, its just apparently more secure
[01:17] <Tin_man> Haximus, when I set my server up several years ago, this link helped when I had key problems. I might help you, not sure http://www.howtogeek.com/168147/add-public-ssh-key-to-remote-server-in-a-single-command/
[01:17] <electricmilk> Haximus,  And then used sudo service ssh status to check the status of the ssh server
[01:17] <Tin_man> It*
[01:19] <Bashing-om> RichardCavell: Ouch . Sorry. I just do not know enough to procecute this further .
[01:21] <RichardCavell> Bashing-om, How about this?  I zip up the /home/richard directory from the internal hard disk, then wipe and install a new distro over the top, then unzip /home/richard.  Sound good
[01:21] <RichardCavell> ?
[01:23] <Bashing-om> RichardCavell: Well. should be good to get you back up .. yes .. But does not tell us why/where the failure lies .
[01:25] <RichardCavell> Bashing-om, Is it generally the case that zipping/unzipping one's home directory is enough to salvage everything that's important?
[01:26] <RichardCavell> (All my important data is safe, don't worry)
[01:28] <Bashing-om> RichardCavell: Depends on what changes you have made to the default install system files . Me, all I backup is my personal data and I keep a change log of all changes I make . ( rsync -aiv --exclude=".*" /home/sysop/ /media/sysop/8023-774F/storage/ )
[01:33] <Fretegi> evening folks
[01:36] <Haximus> how can I delete all of the contents of my /home/user/.ssh directory?
[01:39] <Haximus> NVM, think I got it
[01:40] <Fretegi> Haximus, rm -rf /home/usr/.ssh/* will nuke everything in the directory.  if you want to keep interior directories forget the 'r'
[01:41] <Haximus> ok, I used rm /home/usr/.ssh/* before you said that
[01:41] <Haximus> is that just as efficient?
[01:41] <Haximus> I ran ls -al ~/.ssh and it all seems to be cleared
[01:42] <Fretegi> Haximus, for that directory unless u did something goofy ya should be fine. /usr/.ssh likely doesnt have any interior directories or hidden files.  if you did have hidden files we have to tweak even what i sent you a little.  but if ls -la shows it cleared then you should be good
[01:43] <Haximus> Thank you for your help, much appreciated!
[01:43] <Fretegi> anytime my freind
[01:43] <Fretegi> ok my turn now ha
[01:43] <Fretegi> running ubuntu mate 16.04.3, amd64.  recently upgraded to kernel 4.13.0-26 and now many things lock up, most often is caja.  system is completely unusable.  if i boot into a prior kernel the machine runs perfectly.  any thoughts? or whats an easy way to down grade the kernel without bocking new update
[01:46] <Fretegi> i mean i could just uninstall the kernel and purge and the linux-image... however the next update should grab it again and i dont want that.  anyway to do what would be the equivalent of a 'mask' in gentoo?  whereby you just block a set version or range of versions on a package?
[01:47] <Haximus> Ill get back to you in a couple years :-/
[01:47] <Fretegi> Haximus, haha it comes way faster than u think :)
[01:47] <mutante> Fretegi: normal package updates don't update the kernel
[01:48] <mutante> only if you'd specifically tell it to dist-upgrade
[01:48] <mutante> would it pull the kernel image too
[01:48] <Fretegi> mutante, apt-get dist-upgrade does though.
[01:48] <mutante> well, then don't run that ?
[01:48] <Fretegi> mutante, right, and i would like to keep latest kernels
[01:49] <mutante> eh, ok, then i'm confused what the desired result was.. newer kernel or no newer kernel
[01:49] <Fretegi> mutante, let me rephrase... i would like to have current kernels, however skip this current broken one
[01:49] <mutante> got it, well.. just wait until there is a "next" one
[01:49] <Bashing-om> Fretegi: How about setting the prior booting kernel in the /etc/default/grub config file ?
[01:49] <Fretegi> so when the next one comes out i wont get prompted until it supersedes his broken one
[01:50] <Fretegi> Bashing-om, that would work, just make the 4.10 kernel default.  although admittedly im not sure how to accomplish that in ubuntu
[01:51] <Fretegi> Bashing-om, edit the GRUB_DEFAULT line?
[01:52] <Fretegi> make it 1 perhaps?
[01:52] <Bashing-om> Fretegi: this line ' GRUB_DEFAULT=0 ' change the zero to the line number of the kernel ya want booted ( as shown in grub's boot menu ) .. then run ' sudo update-grub ' to propagate the change .
[01:52] <Fretegi> ha ok, makes sense
[01:53] <Fretegi> course... suppose to mutante's point..  guess i could just uninstall the darn thing and just not upgrade until i see a release higher than this broken one...
[01:54] <Fretegi> just wanted apt-get to sort it out and not tell me until there was a newer one :)
[01:55] <Bashing-om> Fretegi: Yup. either will work . I think editing grub to boot is the more sane thing myself .
[01:56] <omegat> lsls
[01:56] <omegat> lsls
[01:56] <omegat> clear
[01:56] <omegat> clar
[01:56] <omegat> clear
[01:56] <omegat> motherfufc
[01:57] <Fretegi> Bashing-om, so to be clear, when setting the value for Grub_default, thats counting recovery boot option lines as well right
[01:58] <Bashing-om> Fretegi: Yeah .. as you can surmise the count starts at 0 .
[02:00] <Bashing-om> hreinnbeck: take a look at /boot/grub/grub.cfg for the boot order too .
[02:02] <Fretegi> brb
[02:10] <HyD3> Count off
[02:10] <ChetManly> can I have aptitude autp update?
[02:15] <Fretegi> Bashing-om, ok got it
[02:15] <Fretegi> couldnt get grub to cooperate so i just wiped that kernel version heck with it
[02:16] <Bashing-om> Fretegi: K. What works best for you :)
[02:16] <Kaedenn1> What's the Ubuntu equivalent of /dev/ttyUSB0 ?
[02:34] <Kaedenn1> nevermind, I had to plug the thing in before /dev/ttyUSB0 showed up
[02:37] <kk4ewt> *** F27-20180112 updated lives available: http://tinyurl.com/Live-respins2  Built by the Fedora Respin Sig more info #fedora-respins  ***
[02:42] <bd1308> Greetings....running 17.10, wondering if I can setup a resolver file for a particular search domain without just disabling systemd-resolved?
[02:49] <Lumiiii> In Linux. For those who like it the most.. what sort of environment do you guys favor the most?
[02:50] <kk4ewt> Lumiiii, that question needs to be a little narrower
[02:51] <DanyHD> hi?
[02:51] <Bashing-om> Lumiiii: It's about choice, choose what you like the better .
[02:51] <kk4ewt> my everyday Desktop rnviroment is Mate,  for Amateur radio i use xfce
[02:51] <DanyHD> My question is about: I install minergate and later I don't have audio in my apps, I can use the left side and right side test from ubuntu and works but the others apps have no sound, anyone can help me?
[02:52] <Lumiiii> kk4ewt: in other words do you favor more or less tools? If so which? What is there that you would consider unnecessary?
[02:52] <kk4ewt> depends on what i need to do
[02:52] <Lumiiii> Do you like more of a lightweight approach were be you add just what you want?
[02:53] <kk4ewt> i like the freedom to do what i want
[02:53] <Lumiiii> Without the extra weight
[02:53] <kk4ewt> i rather to use my cpu cycles on my app rather than on video fluff
[02:55] <Lumiiii> Were drivers ever an issue much for you?
[02:55] <kk4ewt> nope
[02:57] <kk4ewt> easy to research equipment what works and what doesnt
[02:58] <Guest11281> hlw
[02:59] <Guest11281> any body here?
[02:59] <Bashing-om> Guest11281: Throw some bait out and see ?
[03:00] <Kon-> Are Kubuntu, Xubuntu, etc signed for UEFI Secure Boot in the same way as Ubuntu proper?
[03:27] <hfp> Hi, I'm serving files to my kodi box from an ubuntu server via NFS. Once in a while, when I watch something, the playback hangs as if the NFS server stopped transmitting. I'm not sure what's going on so I checked /var/log/syslog, but I couldn't see anything around the time the issue happened. Is there anywhere else I can look on the server?
[03:33] <kenrin> Does it hang outside of kodi?  That seems like more of a kodi issue from the light search on forum.kodi.tv I did
[03:38] <GIGeoGamer> Test
[03:47] <GIGeoGamer> I am attempting to install Ubuntu so that I can dual boot. Win10 is already installed. I am new to linux and would rather NOT unintentionally overwrite Windows. Does ubuntu ask for the language first or for the partition setup?
[03:51] <glitchd> anyone have any scripting knowledge in here?
[03:53] <glitchd> im trying to put together a script that runs xscreensaver, and if it gets deactivated, runs it again. but i dont want it to run in a loopm, since it prints messages on the screen saying something along the lines of "xscreensaver was activated while it was already running". i dont want it to print messages on the screen, just want it to run and rerun if deactivated. i want it to run until i tell it to stop.
[03:54] <Zythyr> I created a USB installer for Ubuntu Server. It takes me directly to installation. How can I get to the terminal prior to installation?
[03:57] <Zythyr> ^ ignore the previous question
[03:58] <Zythyr> Question: I created  live USB of Ubuntu Desktop. However, is there a way I can install Ubuntu Server instead of Ubuntu Desktop if I am using Ubuntu Desktop live USB
[04:02] <glitchd> Zythyr, sudo apt-get update
[04:02] <glitchd> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-server
[04:02] <Zythyr> So I just do that from terminal?
[04:03] <glitchd> yep
[04:03] <glitchd> then i think you choose it from the login menu before you login
[04:04] <glitchd> you can also do it like this..
[04:04] <glitchd> Yes Ubuntu desktop can become server by installing following packages
[04:04] <glitchd> LAMP server (Linux, Apache2, MySQL, PHP), Mail server & OpenSSH server
[04:05] <Zythyr> glitchd That simple? Is that the only difference?
[04:06] <glitchd> as far as im finding with all this google-fu im doing
[04:06] <glitchd> but ive done it in the past
[04:06] <glitchd> converted a normal ubunut installation to a server edition installation
[04:06] <glitchd> using those commands
[04:06] <Zythyr> After installing LAMP server, I can disable Deskto GUI. But will this be a true server that doesn't comsume as much power as a Desktop?
[04:06] <glitchd> thats the only real difference between normal ubuntu and ubuntu-server
[04:07] <glitchd> im not sure about your last question
[04:09] <Zythyr> okay. I think I just found my way around Ubuntu Server, so I guess I'll just isntall Server using Server USB instead of Desktop USB. It was a littel confusing at first configuring the partitions, but now got it working
[04:09] <krytarik> GIGeoGamer: Here is a run-through to the installation: https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/tutorial-install-ubuntu-desktop#0
[04:10] <glitchd> You could disable the display manager service with systemctl for example if your display manager is lightdm the run sudo systemctl disable lightdm.service. This will prevent the service from starting at boot.
[04:10] <glitchd> Zythyr, ^^
[04:15] <ares__> hola
[04:16] <GIGeoGamer> Now when I click on install Ubuntu it shows a black screen with a bunch of greenish font size rectangles then shows some white text that isn't full visible due to resolution I assume. Then after a few seconds I get a 2/3's purple screen with a black strip at the top. All of which has some white lines and dot's on it that look like squished text.
[04:17] <ares__> hola
[04:17] <vegombrei> ares__: hola
[04:17] <ares__> hola de donde eres
[04:22] <glitchd> GIGeoGamer, question?
[04:22] <Zythyr> glitchd ahh okay thanks
[04:23] <glitchd> Zythyr, np
[04:30] <ares__> hola
[04:30] <ares__> español
[04:31] <krytarik> !es
[04:31] <ares__> ok muchas gracias amigo se lo agradesco mucho
[04:33] <GIGeoGamer> glitchyd How do I go about fixing this? I installed ubuntu on my laptop the otherday no problems. My desktop isn't being cooperative though
[04:33] <glitchd> GIGeoGamer, what errors are you getting?
[04:34] <glitchd> GIGeoGamer, also what version of ubuntu?
[04:35] <Energize> hello
[04:36] <Energize> anyone here
[04:36] <GIGeoGamer> Ubuntu 16.04. When I click install it shows the screen I mentioned above^ the white text says a few things. failed to create kernel channel, and then some base-x timeouts. Again I am new to this so not sure. After a few seconds on that screen it moves me to the second screen where it is stuck until I force power off
[04:37] <GIGeoGamer> It does the same thing if I click on try without installing
[04:37] <glitchd>   your trying to install ubuntu from a live usb?
[04:37] <GIGeoGamer> Yes
[04:38] <glitchd> i think you need to make the usb again
[04:38] <glitchd> probably a bad write
[04:38] <glitchd> what did you use to make the usb?
[04:38] <GIGeoGamer> That is the strange part. For some reason I was getting this error, then something I changed made it work, now its not working again. I used rufus (Same thing I used to make the boot stick for my laptop)
[04:39] <glitchd> hmm...
[04:39] <glitchd> i would suggest making a new usb
[04:39] <GIGeoGamer> Also
[04:40] <GIGeoGamer> When I say "made it work" I mean I was able to get to the installer but the resolution was horrible. The bottom of all the buttons at the bottom of the installer were cut off
[04:40] <GIGeoGamer> Not sure if that is normal however it may be worth mentioning I have a dedicated nvdia gfx card. I hear that sometimes causes issues?
[04:40] <glitchd> sounds like your resolution was incorrect for you display
[04:41] <glitchd> when you boot the usb, does it go to a menu, or does it boot straight to the ubuntu desktop?
[04:42] <GIGeoGamer> It lets me choose try, install, oem or something. Then when I click on try OR install it does the things mentioned above.
[04:42] <GIGeoGamer> Recreating the usb right now
[04:42] <glitchd> ok
[04:43] <Haximus> Hey guys, setting up a webserver on a dynamic public IP, and Im planning on using No-IP Dynamic Update client to resolve my address to a hostname while keeping it updated.  Do yall recommend installing/running DUC on my Ubuntu server or should I just do it on my Windows desktop here
[04:43] <glitchd> are you creating it from the ubuntu installing on the other computer, or creating it in windows?
[04:43] <glitchd> Haximus, no idea lol
[04:43] <GIGeoGamer> Windows on the same computer I am trying to install ubuntu on
[04:44] <glitchd> ok, if it doesnt work this time, ill give you a command to use on the other linux computer to make a live usb. its a command i use myself very often
[04:45] <GIGeoGamer> Alright
[04:46] <BandoLero> hi
[04:46] <glitchd> hi
[04:47] <Bashing-om> !nomodeset | GIGeoGamer
[04:47] <BandoLero> how are you
[04:49] <BandoLero> are you there
[04:49] <Energize> hello anyone here
[04:49] <glitchd> yea
[04:49] <glitchd> wut up?
[04:49] <BandoLero> :)
[04:50] <glitchd> Energize, yea?
[04:50] <Energize> hi glitchd
[04:50] <GIGeoGamer> Bashing, I have seen that but not sure what to do with it as I am not able to access grub
[04:50] <Energize> hey do you know any thing about ubuntu
[04:50] <BandoLero> why are you here
[04:50] <glitchd> Energize, yea
[04:51] <Energize> can that be use for irc server
[04:51] <glitchd> Energize, lol i have no idea about that.
[04:51] <Energize> lol oh
[04:51] <Budgii> anyone use TorChat?
[04:51] <xs2> what is tor chat?
[04:52] <Bashing-om> GIGeoGamer: EFI system or legacy? .. the key grub recognizes differs .
[04:52] <BandoLero> where are you from
[04:52] <Budgii> I just found it on the.. i guess it the software store on budgie/linux
[04:52] <Budgii> you get an id. you add someone. you chat. thats all really simple interface.
[04:52] <xs2> not me
[04:52] <Energize> i wonder what is better unrealircd or ubunto for irc server
[04:53] <Energize> ubuntu
[04:53] <Budgii> xs2 try it
[04:53] <Budgii> ill add you
[04:53] <xs2> no thanks
[04:53] <Budgii> bye
[04:53] <GIGeoGamer> Bashing, EFI believe
[04:53] <lonequid> unrealircd is an irc daemon, that will run as an irc server. ubuntu is just an operating system; you can run unrealircd on ubuntu
[04:54] <Energize> cool
[04:54] <Energize> can you help me with that
[04:56] <lonequid> it's been years since i set up an irc server but i'm sure there's guides or videos out there on how to compile and configure it
[04:56] <Energize> ok
[04:56] <lonequid> there may be one available as a package too
[04:56] <Energize> i try unrealircd by it self and it is hard
[04:57] <Energize> so i need to check it out on youtube video
[05:00] <GIGeoGamer> Alright
[05:00] <GIGeoGamer> trying one last thing
[05:01] <GIGeoGamer> glitchd: Unfortunately that didn't work
[05:02] <GIGeoGamer> What do you want me to try?
[05:02] <glitchd> youll need to do this on the ubuntu computer that works
[05:02] <GIGeoGamer> I'm currently using my laptop for this and its booted in linux atm
[05:03] <glitchd> download the iso of the linux distro you want to put on the usb
[05:04] <glitchd> first open terminal and type this "lsblk"
[05:04] <glitchd> find out what the device name of your usb is
[05:04] <glitchd> sdb?
[05:05] <GIGeoGamer> Hmm I think it's been changed each time? or is that just a visible display name?
[05:06] <glitchd> id you want to pm me you can paste everything that it outputs without getting penalized for posting alot at once
[05:07] <glitchd> GIGeoGamer, i sent you a pm
[05:18] <BandoLero> hi
[05:18] <Lumiiiii> Hrmmm...
[05:19] <BandoLero> what ?
[05:28] <vegombrei> hi .. i use an old duo core 2 gb ram and a poor display card, everything was running great untill i upgraded the version to the bew one now everything dies runs really slow how do i make his lighter?
[05:36] <Bashing-om> vegombrei: "Lubuntu is a faster, more lightweight and energy saving variant of Ubuntu using LXDE, the Lightweight X11 Desktop Environment. It is targeted at "normal" PC and laptop users running on low-spec hardware."
[05:36] <sabaneroxx> hello
[05:44] <ghostnik11> Hi i did a normal thing which was to tell the tablet to update and now it updated even something for the cpu and now i only get 4 hours of battery time when before i was getting like 9 hours and more
[05:46] <vegombrei> Bashing-om: ah thanks, so is there a way to switch to that and leave my stuff the way it is or do i hafta format my drive and reinstall?
[05:48] <Bashing-om> vegombrei: save your personal data and fresh install is the less abrasive action .
[05:49] <vegombrei> Bashing-om: thanks ill do that, so does the install allow you to do it via usb?
[05:49] <vegombrei> Bashing-om: have a cdrom here
[05:53] <Bashing-om> vegombrei: can do it either way.
[05:58] <Bashing-om> vegombrei: http://lubuntu.me/downloads/ -> Version 16.04.3 LTS -> alternate >>> 16.04.1 ( no HWE then ) .
[06:20] <Nick21> jimb_ Are you here?
[06:45] <weebleeble> How do you remove a directory when the path is too long.
[06:45] <farruinn> weebleeble: rm -rf startofpath*
[06:45] <weebleeble> My gitlab ci setup accidentally kept copying a directory into itself over and over again and rm -rf is failing due to "File name is too long"
[06:46] <weebleeble> farruinn: I was doing rm -rf /path/ and it was spewing "file name is too long"
[06:47] <weebleeble> rm cannot remove /path/path/path/ file name too long
[06:49] <EriC^^> weebleeble: cd into half remove the rest unde it
[06:49] <weebleeble> hmm
[06:50] <EriC^^> cd /path/path/path; rm path/path, then cd ../../ ; rm path/path
[06:56] <weebleeble> EriC^^: jesus that sounds painful.
[06:56] <EriC^^> weebleeble: do find /path
[06:56] <EriC^^> copy one in the middle
[06:56] <EriC^^> 'find /path'
[06:58] <EriC^^> actually just try find /path -exec rm -r {} \;
[06:59] <EriC^^> nevermind i think it wont work, it needs to remove the child dir first
[06:59] <EriC^^> weebleeble: can you pastebin the error you're getting?
[07:00] <weebleeble> @EriC^^ https://hastebin.com/sukayidewu.pl
[07:00] <weebleeble> I switched to trying to mv the file to a ram drive.
[07:01] <weebleeble> It moved from a different directory on the same partition just fine but it wont rm still.
[07:01] <weebleeble> Every time I try it just melts.
[07:01] <EriC^^> weebleeble: the shell complains?
[07:02] <EriC^^> what was the filename length error again?
[07:02] <weebleeble> its in the hastebin
[07:02] <weebleeble> Same error for rm and mv
[07:02] <EriC^^> aha
[07:04] <weebleeble> EriC^^: I can't find anything despite heaps and heaps of googling.
[07:05] <weebleeble> I tried this when rm was just locking up the machine.  /path/nginx/keinary/uploads/keinary-uploads/keinary-uploads -type d -exec ionice -c3 rm -f {} \;
[07:05] <weebleeble> It spent about an hour running inside of a screen.
[07:07] <weebleeble> Sorry the command I ran was this  /usr/share/nginx/keinary/uploads/keinary-uploads/keinary-uploads -type f -exec ionice -c3 rm {} \;
[07:07] <weebleeble> not sure why its stored in /usr/
[07:24] <nemesis3> hallo aus österreich :-)
[07:35] <ubuntu> Hi
[07:39] <nwe> hello, I have just setup my own repository, and I have add the url to my /etc/sources.list.d/own.list , when I running apt-get update I got Ign and at the end E: Failed to fetch https://repo.local.foo/test-miscs/dists/xenial/main/binary-amd64/Packages and E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead. but when I using curl to the same url I can access it. any idea ?
[07:45] <Zythyr> Need help. On my laptop which has a Gigabit ethernet card, I am only getting 100Mb/s. I checked this using "sudo ethtool en0". It says Speed: 100Mb/s
[07:46] <lotuspsychje> Zythyr: tell us your real issue?
[07:46] <Zythyr> Why is the ethernet link speed being set to 100Mb/s when its a gigabit ethernet card
[07:47] <oerheks> could be different reasons, the router is 100 mbit, the cabe is cat5, and not suitable for 100 mbit ..
[07:49] <hateball> Zythyr: what does ethtool claim as supported and advertised modes?
[07:50] <hateball> Zythyr: I mean does it claim gigabit there, but link speed is 100mb?
[07:51] <Zythyr> It claims to be Gigabit but link speed is set to 100Mb/s. Here is my output from terminal https://pastebin.mozilla.org/9076118
[07:52] <arktvrvs> cat5 isnt suitable for 100mbit?
[07:52] <Zythyr> I connected it directly to a fully working ethernet cable. I tested 3 different working ethernet ports. All are good
[07:53] <dv`_> it says Link partner advertised link modes: 100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full
[07:53] <dv`_> link partner being the other end
[07:54] <hateball> arktvrvs: you'd want cat5e, and unless your cable is like 15 years old it is
[07:54] <Zythyr> dv`_ What does that mean
[07:55] <hateball> Zythyr: It means whatever you're connecting to supports 100mbit max
[07:55] <Zythyr> btw I tessted using cate6e ethernet cabile
[07:55] <oerheks> Zythyr, did it ever work, 1000 mbit?
[07:57] <Zythyr> So does that mean the phsyical ethernet connection is only set to 100 instead of 1000?
[07:58] <dv`_> well clearly the transfer rate between two things can only be the minimum of what they both support
[07:58] <Zythyr2> So does that mean the phsyical ethernet connection is only set to 100 instead of 1000?
[08:07] <Zythyr1> dv`_ Okay now i figured it out. Yes physical ethernet connection is set to 100mbits. I need to go home and check my home connection
[08:20] <dohzer> Do the Ubuntu GUI network settings override the /etc/network/interfaces file?
[08:20] <dohzer> (Version 17.04 if it matters)
[08:20] <oerheks> dohzer, yes
[08:21] <dohzer> oerheks, is there a way to change that?
[08:22] <oerheks> network-manager should do that, and you can insert your own config in networkmanager. or disable it totally https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkManager#Stopping_and_Disabling_NetworkManager
[08:22] <dohzer> cheers!
[08:22] <oerheks> have fun!
[08:23] <oerheks> ( see the systemD part)
[08:39] <tonywb> Hello all I am having a problem with computer suspend option. When I hit the hibernate button on keyboard everything works fine but when I wake system up i lose my ethernet connection it icons looks like it's trying to connect but nothing. Ihave to reboot system to get it to work
[08:42] <tonywb> Hello all I am having a problem with computer suspend option. When I hit the hibernate button on keyboard everything works fine but when I wake system up i lose my ethernet connection it icons looks like it's trying to connect but nothing. Ihave to reboot system to get it to work
[08:52] <zqy> _test_
[09:11] <jnor> Hello I got handed a vm with freebsd and ssh access, I would like to install ubuntu on it instead, anyone have a guide for how to install a new os through ssh only?
[09:14] <EriC^^> jnor: contact the administrator of the vm service
[09:14] <oerheks> jnor, there is no such manual, changing freebsd to ubuntu, make a fresh vm, or download one https://virtual-machine.org/download-list
[09:15] <oerheks> for building yourself, start here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware
[09:24] <rnmk254> tor_dev
[09:34] <kadasdsadsa> hi
[09:35] <kadasdsadsa> install tor on Ubuntu 17.04, freshly installed, tor service is running, but not listening on port 9050, what could be wrong ?
[09:36] <oerheks> 17.04 has reached EOL, upgrade to 17.10 please..
[09:39] <oerheks> ports can be closed, sudo ufw status # should show you, to open sudo ufw allow 9050
[09:40] <KaitoDaumoto> hmm ..
[09:42] <sambho> 23H
[09:51] <ChadTaljaardt> CAn soneone help me install ubuntu
[09:51] <ChadTaljaardt> when i boot to the memory stick, it goes to a purple screen for a few seconds and then the screen goes off and wont go back on until i reboot
[09:52] <oerheks> try the !nomodeset way
[09:52] <oerheks> !nomodeset
[09:52] <hanabishi> hello guy
[09:52] <hanabishi> i'm run in to problem
[09:53] <hanabishi> i'm can't open file .XPS
[09:53] <hanabishi> i'm has a reader but can't open
[09:53] <hanabishi> but this file can open in another computer
[09:53] <hanabishi> want can i do?
[09:55] <sononuovo> hello hellolino
[09:55] <sononuovo> im have problem install java 8
[09:55] <oerheks> hanabishi, find a XPS viewer, this old howto is still valid, http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2015/06/install-mupdf-ubuntu-1504/ or convert to pdf http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/xenial/man1/xpstopdf.1.html
[09:57] <oerheks> !info openjdk-8-jdk
[09:58] <oerheks> sononuovo, or do you want the oracle blob?
[09:58] <oerheks> !java
[09:59] <hanabishi> thank you, i will try again : <oerheks>
[09:59] <sononuovo> thanks others
[10:03] <sononuovo> oerheks
[10:31] <lastebill> hi
[10:32] <lastebill> what would be the cleanest way to start a program on boot?  For simplicitys sake lets just say I want to start a web browser on bootup
[10:32] <oerheks> add it to startup applications?
[10:33] <lastebill> oh lol
[10:33] <oerheks> on boot would be different than after login.. a browser does not work on boot
[10:34] <lastebill> right, well, after login sounds great
[10:36] <SCHAPiE> hmmm, seems that nl.archive.ubuntu.com is unreachable.... stuck on "waiting for headers"
[10:36] <SCHAPiE> from multiple different locations
[10:38] <lastebill> glad I asked here first, I was googling how to start on boot :p
[10:38] <lastebill> wouldn't have worked anyways
[10:40] <oerheks> lastebill, have fun!
[10:40] <Radkos> hello guys
[10:41] <Radkos> do you know by any chance why some icons are missing from my system tray in ubuntu 14.04 with unity
[10:41] <Radkos> as far as I know blacklisting systray icons are removed feature so there is nothing do with dconf
[10:42] <Radkos> for instance xchat is missing and utox is not showing
[10:42] <Radkos> in gnome shell I can see 'em
[10:43] <oerheks> xchat .. don' t use that, is unmaintained, use the supported fork, hexchat
[10:44] <oerheks> icons missing .. sudo dconf reset -f /org/compiz/ && setsid unity # and logout/login
[10:44] <Radkos> if so the icon is not there if start them from terminal I don't see any output saying anything so unity has to keep them unseen
[10:45] <oerheks> if that does not solve, rm -rf ~/.config
[10:45] <Radkos> ok I'll try that
[10:45] <Radkos> nah...
[10:45] <oerheks> ( ugly, but working for me )
[10:45] <Radkos> not gonna delete the whole .config
[10:45] <Radkos> from fresh install they wasn't there
[10:46] <oerheks> unity --reset-icons && setsid unity
[10:47] <Kingsy> is it possible to use bluetooth headphones with alsa? I don't want to install pulseaudio really
[10:49] <ChadTaljaardt> i have a hd6870 and i cant set my resolution higher
[10:49] <ChadTaljaardt> anyone have any idea's?
[10:52] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[10:55] <ChadTaljaardt> Hello BluesKaj
[10:56] <BluesKaj> Hi ChadTaljaardt
[11:02] <Vamp898> Hi there, i wanted to clean up /boot on a client as it was _really_ messy. So i reinstalled grub and grub is there and works fine. But after reinstalling the kernel (apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-generic) there is no kernel in /boot. Even after apt-get remove and apt-get install again, no kernel :/
[11:04] <Vamp898> ah okay, there were still other kernels installed and there is also an -extra package. Now everything is there again
[11:06] <al_mahdi> Hi
[11:24] <user4> !meltdown
[11:25] <oerheks> !ktpi
[11:25] <oerheks> !kpti
[11:31] <trafaret1> hi everybody
[11:32] <trafaret1> I have quesion. I want to connect to windows from Linux Ubuntu I have installed Remmina and I did it. But I have problem with keybinding and textures in remote host
[11:32] <J3089TE>  ubuntu's NL repo is  only reachable through ipv4. But apt-get is trying to use ipv6. How do I force it to use ipv4 instead?
[11:33] <trafaret1> Are there better solution for this task or can I configure remmina. Problem is not working shotcuts in remote hots
[11:33] <J3089TE> nvm, solved
[11:33] <oerheks> J3089TE, wait until bit bv fixes things, change mirror to main in ' sources'
[11:34] <vy> Hey! I am using 16.04 LTS on a MacbookPro 13". I am being told that Apple has released EFI updates for OSX. Anything similar in the Ubuntu land?
[11:34] <Jonii> Hello. I'd want to uninstall ubuntu. There's nothing valuable on the partition ubuntu resides in, and I'm using another OS(Windows 10) on that computer
[11:34] <BluesKaj> J3089TE, apt doesn't determine ipv6 or 4 , your networking sweup does
[11:34] <BluesKaj> setup
[11:35] <Jonii> I'm thinking of just using partitioning tool to handle this, but I'm worried the boot sector would somehow be messed up if I did so
[11:37] <adac> is the ppa  webupd8team/java broken? getting a 404 when apt tries to install oracle-java8-installer
[11:37] <Jonii> It's made more problematic by the fact that I'm not actually sure the ubuntu boot loader thing that by default does multi-booting is even running. I ran some cleaning program on windows which said it would streamline booting, and I assumed it would get rid of ubuntu bootloader thing... but I 'm not sure it did. :O
[11:38] <Jonii> Basically, I'm very very tempted to just delete the partition, but I thought I should ask first if anyone can spot that I'm making a terrible mistake somehow
[11:40] <BluesKaj> Jonii, I think grug is auto installed into the /efi/boot partition so removing it would be a mistake
[11:40] <BluesKaj> grub
[11:40] <BluesKaj> if you use auto installation
[11:42] <Jonii> Okay, so, how do I uninstall ubuntu?
[11:43] <Jonii> dualbooting machine, and at the moment I can't even figure out how to get into the ubuntu anymore
[11:43] <SysGhost> Simply remove the partitions. Once you install another OS, it'll write over grub's MBR code
[11:44] <Jonii> I was dualbooting
[11:44] <Jonii> I want to make the other OS the only OS
[11:44] <Jonii> so I'm not installing any new OS
[11:44] <BluesKaj> Jonii, hold down the left shift key to get the grub bootloader when booting
[11:44] <SysGhost> then boot up that OS's rescue/instll media, and repair the boot routine (I assume it's Windows)
[11:45] <Jonii> BluesKaj: I'll try
[11:45] <Jonii> It's OEM windows
[11:48] <Jonii> Left shift didn't work?
[11:48] <SysGhost> Try this: https://neosmart.net/EasyRE/
[11:48] <SysGhost> that have options to repair the boot routine for the installed windows.
[11:48] <Neo4> what might I install for send mail on ubuntu? MTA?
[11:48] <Neo4> mail transfer agent?
[11:48] <Neo4> what does do mail transfer agent?
[11:49] <Jonii> SysGhost, I should mention, I haven't actually done anything yet. I'm trying to figure out the safest way to do the uninstallation process
[11:49] <SysGhost> Normal routine to uninstall any linux distribution on a dual boot machine, is to restore the boot record from withing the OS one want to keep, once done, the partitions that isn't in use anymore can be removed.
[11:51] <SysGhost> so the simple way would be: Boot up Windows, restore MBR, delete linux-related partitions. reclaim the unused space in ways one see fit.
[11:52] <BluesKaj> SysGhost, thewre's no mbr on uefi machines
[11:53] <SysGhost> In that case there's nothing else to be done but to remove the partitions. One can simp0ly tell the USFI boot order to boot windows directly.
[11:53] <SysGhost> UEFI*
[11:53] <BluesKaj> !uefi
[11:54] <BluesKaj> SysGhost, it's not that simple
[11:54] <SysGhost> Neat thing with UEFI, is that one can have multiple boot entries in the NVRAM. Delete the grub entry there, and let it default back to "Windows loader"
[11:55] <parvathy> Hi, how to list the available trays of a printer in ubuntu
[11:55] <Guest7555> Im using ubuntu 14.04
[11:57] <SysGhost> Changing UEFI boot entries can easily be done from within the UEFI setup menu. (Unless it's a really dumbed down variant some OEM manufacturers use. In that case either use windows own boot restoration method, or see linux command "efibootmgr")
[12:00] <SysGhost> if one feel uncomfortable with commands, the neosmart tool I linked above does wonders with a simple UI.
[12:07] <SysGhost> Guest7555: from command line?
[12:07] <apix> has anyone got issues with WebUpd8 ppa ? Im getting a 404 when trying to install oracle-java8-installer
[12:14] <Jonii> Okay, I checked, UEFI manager says boot priority number 1 is "Windows boot manager"
[12:14] <Jonii> That means i'm free to just delete the ubuntu partitions?
[12:15] <jimb_> apix, I was able to check http://ppa.launchpad.net/webupd8team/java/ubuntu via apt-get update without an issue. I should mentino that PPA's are not supported in this channel though :(
[12:15] <BluesKaj> as lonhas you don't delete /efi/boot
[12:16] <BluesKaj> as long as , Jonii
[12:16] <Jonii> Umm... How do I do that, or more specifically, how do I not do that?
[12:17] <Jonii> I was thinking using Windows partition manager to just destroy everything. Though it doesn't recognize ubuntu file systems at all, so it's a bit annoying
[12:17] <BluesKaj> !gparted | Jonii
[12:18] <Jonii> You mean I should use that?
[12:18] <Jonii> Because as it stands, seems I can't even boot into ubuntu on that computer
[12:19] <BluesKaj> or you can install gparted on a usb stick,Jonii , you don't need ubuntu to do that
[12:20] <Jonii> if I have to boot from usb stick, I've probably got some Ubuntu distro laying around
[12:20] <Kingsy> does anyone know if bluez supports LDAC ?
[12:20] <BluesKaj> a very handy tool.. timeto learn about partitioning, Jonii
[12:20] <Jonii> But I remember UEFI causing problems with booting from any removable media
[12:21] <Jonii> I've used gparted plenty of times
[12:21] <BluesKaj> then use it
[12:21] <Kingsy> it looks like it MIGHT when I check out the bluez commit history. but I don't see a mention of it on their website
[12:22] <apix> jimb_: thanks for that, ill chace it in another place :)
[12:22] <jimb_> apix, yw
[12:22] <leotreasure> hello
[12:23] <leotreasure> I just did an automatic update within 17.10 and now my mouse click has stopped working
[12:23] <leotreasure> It moves fine (actually a bit slower now) but the left and right click are not doing anything
[12:23] <leotreasure> Any ideas how to fix this please?
[12:24] <jimb_> leotreasure, Have you tried << sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall >> yet?
[12:24] <oerheks> leotreasure, open terminal, top £ to see if there is a zombie process
[12:25] <oerheks> noticed that before, or just unplug/plug your mouse
[12:25] <leotreasure> jimb_, I hadn't tried that - but tried it now and no effect
[12:25] <Jonii> blueskaj, but I mean, I've used it as a program inside ubuntu, not as OS in itself :p
[12:26] <leotreasure> oerheks, tried that - still not working
[12:26] <leotreasure> oerheks, I tried top & and noticed there is a process
[12:27] <BluesKaj> Jonii, well, using gparted from a usb or cd isn't much different, it's precise tool that works and one that windows disk manager can't replicate
[12:27] <leotreasure> oerheks,  When I kill it another launches
[12:28] <oerheks> leotreasure, restart your browser, most likely the issue, else see a page howto find kill a zombie
[12:33] <Jonii> Turns out my boot media has been damaged during storage
[12:34] <Jonii> never mind, found an alternative one
[12:36] <Iamcool> hi
[12:40] <Iamcool> hi
[12:41] <EriC^^> hi
[12:41] <Iamcool> was macht ihr grad?
[12:42] <oerheks> !de
[12:42] <LeafMeAlone> has
[12:43] <LeafMeAlone> whats up
[12:43] <Iamcool> nothing
[12:47] <leotreasure> I made a bug report - http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1743767
[12:54] <funabashi> scp but for gui in ubuntu , what program are recommended by you guys ?
[12:56] <BluesKaj> funabashi, ??
[12:56] <oerheks> caja, filezilla .. https://askubuntu.com/questions/94665/what-is-a-program-similar-to-winscp
[12:58] <geirha> funabashi: you can use the regular "file explorer" (nautilus)
[12:59] <wodim> E: The repository 'http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu zesty Release' does no longer have a Release file.
[12:59] <wodim> what does this mean
[12:59] <emin> you need to update your repos
[13:00] <emin> replace archive with old-releases
[13:00] <wodim> ty
[13:00] <wodim> is zesty deprecated or something?
[13:00] <emin> i think it is
[13:00] <ioria> !zesty
[13:00] <wodim> that seems to work, thank you
[13:00] <geirha> funabashi: from nautilus' menu, Connect to server... and type in  ssh://host/  or ssh://host/optional/path/
[13:01] <emin> bye
[13:01] <wodim> !eolupgrade
[13:02] <dragoonis> Hey
[13:02] <dragoonis> apt-get update is failing for me. IP issues. 404's
[13:02] <dragoonis> I'm on ubuntu 17.04
[13:02] <oerheks> upgrade, 17.04 is EOL
[13:03] <dragoonis> oerheks, has the ubuntu team disabled the apt repos? I even see 16.04 working fine with apt-get update
[13:03] <x04e> half a year for non lts wasn't it?
[13:03] <oerheks> 16.04 is LTS, 5 years
[13:03] <x04e> 16.04 is lts
[13:04] <oerheks> !eolupgrade
[13:04] <dragoonis> right
[13:04] <oerheks> or run update manager and hit upgrade to 17.10
[13:05] <CobHead> Upgrading any Ubuntu install to a new release requires some faith and some luck.
[13:05]  * CobHead looks at servers in particular
[13:05] <oerheks> i would make a fres usb with 17.10 beofore upgrading yea
[13:05] <Ool> depend what's running on
[13:06] <oerheks> CobHead, normally it would go perfectly
[13:06] <CobHead> In my experience, it breaks a lot of packages
[13:07] <CobHead> In the event one should upgrade Ubuntu servers in production - just do a clean install and migrate services over, trying to fix shit is not worth the hassle.
[13:07] <oerheks> brb
[13:08] <x04e> in the 15.xx era it was bad but now upgrading got better
[13:08] <x04e> but php5 to php7 broke some servers that sucked xD
[13:09] <ioria> that's why there are the Release Notes
[13:11] <ktechmidas> hey guys... what's an "opt in flavour"? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BionicBeaver/ReleaseSchedule
[13:13] <BluesKaj> !flavours
[13:13] <ktechmidas> Ah I see, xubuntu etc... thanks!
[13:14] <oerheks> unofficial flavors https://askubuntu.com/questions/428326/what-are-opt-in-flavors-during-development-cycle
[13:16] <Kingsy> does anyone know why I might be havign issues detecting a bluetooth device using blueman? is there a better way? I can connect ot ht edevice using my phone just phone
[13:16] <Kingsy> fine****
[13:18] <TJ-> Kingsy: sometimes using the command-line "bluetoothctl" can help. It provides it's own 'shell' with a few commands. Once started type "help" to see them. Suggestions: "scan on" "devices"
[13:18] <Radkos> hello
[13:19] <Kingsy> TJ-: I have tried that. still doesnt appear.
[13:19] <TJ-> Kingsy: could this be a Bluetooth LE device issue? Is the device BT LE but the PC not?
[13:20] <Kingsy> bluetooth LE ?
[13:21] <Kingsy> oh, low energy
[13:21] <Kingsy> I am not sure, its a pair of headphones I have just bought
[13:32] <sveinse> On 17.10, how can I log into gnome-shell? I can't seem to find any selection of window system in the login screen.
[13:33] <TJ-> Kingsy: I'd check the PC BT module, see if it supports LE. The 4.0 specifications say devices are free to implement either or both
[13:34] <anis>  salam 3alaykom YA 3ARAB!
[13:37] <mimo>  slmooo 3elaykom
[13:38] <anis>  winkom
[13:38] <anis> wach a deenya
[13:39] <mimo> ranaaaaaaaaa hnaaaaaaa
[13:39] <TJ-> Kingsy: if on the PC you do "sudo hcitool lescan" and you get "Set scan parameters failed: Input/output error" rather than "LE Scan ..." it tells you the host doesn't support LE, which *may* be the issue, but I'd have expected headphones to support classic BT
[13:39] <anis>  rawa7na wela g3odna
[13:40] <anis>  PRIVMSG #ubuntu :al3eb
[13:40] <anis>  rawa7na wela mazalna
[13:40] <mimo> PRIVMSG #ubuntu :haaaaayaaaaaaaa
[13:40] <leftyfb> anis: spamming is offtopic. please leave
[13:40] <anis>  tlitli jab dawr ta3oui
[13:40] <leftyfb> mimo: same goes for you
[13:40] <TJ-> !ops anis mimo (garbage spam, same IP)
[13:40] <Fuchs> they are online from the same IP, mind.
[13:41] <Fuchs> and even hae the same gecos ... potentially the same user.
[13:41] <mimo> hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[13:41] <mimo> raaaaaa
[13:41] <anis> what do you do in your life
[13:41] <leftyfb> anis: please leave
[13:41] <mimo> PRIVMSG #ubuntu :lelaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[13:41] <anis> fPRIVMSG #ubuntu :from wher are you from
[13:42] <anis> why !
[13:42] <mimo> we are PRIVMSG #ubuntu :what are we donig here
[13:44] <funabashi> geirha: ok didnt work
[13:45] <funabashi> in the menu ssh://10.0.10.25/~temp/
[13:48] <leftyfb> funabashi: in nautilus (you might have to install sshfs) try:  sftp://10.0.10.25/
[13:48] <kacimo>  salam 3aleikom
[13:49] <die7> any chance to get ubuntu 16.4.3 installed using kickstart
[13:49] <leftyfb> die7: yes
[13:49] <die7> currently it fails to install grub
[13:49] <geirha> funabashi: you want to log in as temp user? ssh://temp@10.0.10.25
[13:49] <die7> leftyfb: could you point me to one working example of kickstart please
[13:49] <funabashi> leftyfb: perfecto thanks
[13:50] <funabashi>  sftp://10.0.10.25/~temp/
[13:50] <leftyfb> die7: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/i386/ch04s06.html    first result on google for "ubuntu kickstart"
[13:51] <anes>  holla
[13:52] <die7> leftyfb: I have invest a lot time it looks just like no chance to get grub to sda
[13:54] <die7> leftyfb: this most be a installer pressed/kickstart conflict
[13:54] <anes>  PRIVMSG #ubuntu :what thePRIVMSG #ubuntu : exit
[13:54] <BIT10>  salam 3aleykum everybody!PRIVMSG #ubuntu : salam 3aleykum everybody!PRIVMSG #ubuntu : salam 3aleykum everybody!
[13:57] <neuromute9> hey folks, i'm trying to compile an old piece of software (svg2pdf) and at present it throws an error on make, cannot find lgdk_pixbuf-2.0
[13:58] <die7> ubuntu is just horrible os
[13:58] <neuromute9> I've installed the libgdk_pixbuf-2.0-dev package, but it doesn't pick up on it.  How does one work round this?  The required library being lgdk... and not libgdk...
[13:58] <neuromute9> die7, you in here just to say that?
[13:59] <leftyfb> die7: because you can't figure something out? Good luck going through life with that attitude
[13:59] <die7> neuromute9: Oh I can say even more
[13:59] <AQ> i want a partation for back , how to create it ? thx in advance
[13:59] <die7> leftyfb: I can, it s not issue on my side its definetly a crap
[13:59] <die7> if ubuntu use kickstart than it should also work properly
[13:59] <die7> just look to centos
[13:59] <neuromute9> die7, so, use one of the hundreds/thousands of other OSes available to you?
[14:00] <leftyfb> die7: so why does kickstart work for me any everyone else using it?
[14:00] <die7> leftyfb: then show me your kickstart
[14:00] <die7> leftyfb: u sue LVM
[14:00] <die7> *use
[14:00] <die7> can install grub do sdb
[14:00] <leftyfb> die7: I showed you a working kickstart example that I based mine on. Which works perfectly.
[14:00] <die7> shom me that and then all is fine
[14:01] <leftyfb> die7: lets not make assumptions. I do not always use LVM and most of the time, I only have a single drive
[14:01] <AQ> i want a partation for backup, how to create it ? thx in advance
[14:01] <leftyfb> AQ: gparted
[14:01] <die7> leftyfb: exactly kickstart of ubuntu does not support LVM
[14:01] <AQ> it is not available
[14:01] <die7> and server without LVM is just crap
[14:02] <leftyfb> die7: lose the attitude or you'll cease to receive any further help in here
[14:02] <Southern_Gentlem> AQ, then fdisk
[14:02] <AQ> only disk ?
[14:02] <die7> leftyfb: some ppl can not live with bad/honest feedback
[14:03] <die7> leftyfb: I used now ks from link you posted..and guess
[14:03] <die7> leftyfb: not working..it fails to configure network
[14:03] <TJ-> die7: have you pastebin-ed your kickstart file ?
[14:04] <die7> TJ-: no
[14:04] <Southern_Gentlem> AQ, yes a partiton is a the disk level
[14:04] <leftyfb> die7: the you have an issue with your configuration. Also, that is NOTHING to do with LVM or grub
[14:04] <TJ-> die7: we cannot help if we cannot see the configuration that is failing, and any error messages seen
[14:04] <die7> leftyfb: not realy since one which i created with --gernerate works, except it does not install grub to disk
[14:05] <AQ> https://paste.ubuntu.com/26404630/ , i want to shrink 919 gb and create another partation ext4
[14:06] <leftyfb> die7: so instead of posting what you have and giving exact error messages to help you troubleshoot, you'd rather we just do the work for you by just giving you a working config that suits your personal needs perfectly?
[14:06] <die7> leftyfb: I do not belive U have any working kickstart
[14:06] <die7> not belive this work with bubuntu
[14:07] <die7> im out..no wory, no hel;s needed, once this sad project is done..went back to centos again
[14:07] <TJ-> die7: Stop the abuse; show us the not-working config
[14:07] <leftyfb> please. no. wait. come back
[14:07] <die7> https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/i386/ch04s06.html
[14:07] <die7> this kickstart should work with 16.4
[14:08] <die7> ?
[14:08] <Southern_Gentlem> AQ you realize that with that single hard that means a full reinstall
[14:08] <TJ-> die7: possibly not; that example was written in 2006 for Ubuntu 6.06
[14:08] <AQ> like in windows we create partation , one for os and another for data , i want to do that in ubuntu
[14:09] <die7> https://pastebin.com/dFFrmZFh
[14:09] <die7> this one works but installer means: you chosed to not install grub...wthf???
[14:09] <Southern_Gentlem> AQ,  yes but shrinking / is different than shrinking C:
[14:09] <leftyfb> die7: that is an example. It would probably work if you took at as an example and did some work to look through it and make sure it fits your environment. I can already see 1 issue that I can almost guarantee will make it work for you
[14:09] <Southern_Gentlem> and you were told gparted
[14:10] <Southern_Gentlem> and i advise you to do the shrinking from a live
[14:10] <leftyfb> die7: I also see a potential problem with the kickstart you posted
[14:10] <Southern_Gentlem> in facts you cannot do this to a running system the way you are currently setup
[14:10] <die7> leftyfb: the one in pastebin?
[14:10] <leftyfb> that's what I said
[14:11] <AQ> how , i am noob
[14:11] <die7> leftyfb: menas
[14:11] <leftyfb> die7: why are you listing all those packages to get installed manually?
[14:11] <die7> leftyfb: this ks is created by systemc-cofig-kickstart --generate
[14:12] <leftyfb> die7: remove all those packages except the ones that do not get installed with a default installation. Just stick with packages you know you need to manually install after a fresh install
[14:12] <leftyfb> die7: I would just start with not installing any packages to test
[14:12] <Southern_Gentlem> AQ google is your friend
[14:12] <jimb_> AQ, GParted should be on your liveCD/DVD/USB. Once you boot from that, you should have no trouble using GParted to shrink /dev/sda2 and use the free space to create /dev/sda4
[14:12] <die7> leftyfb: will sthat solve my grub issue :))
[14:13] <AQ> thx
[14:13] <Kingsy> ahh I fixed it, bloody thing needed to be in pairing mode.
[14:13] <leftyfb> die7: did you try it?
[14:13] <Kingsy> curious, with bluetoothctl, can you ghet the battery status?
[14:13] <die7> leftyfb: will try it
[14:13] <Kingsy> its 100% available becuase my android phone gets uit.
[14:13] <Kingsy> would be nice to have it on my PC too
[14:14] <leftyfb> die7: systemc-cofig-kickstart --generate is a very brute force way of generating your config. Just like example configs out there, it should only be used as a template to create a config yourself
[14:16] <TJ-> die7: does this match your issue? https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=5516834#post5516834
[14:16] <TJ-> Kingsy: was that all it was!? manually putting the headphones into pairing mode?
[14:16] <leftyfb> TJ-: he's manually installing a bunch of grub packages.
[14:17] <die7> TJ-: YES
[14:17] <leftyfb> die7: try your kickstart without those packages
[14:19] <ghostnik11> hey i am trying to run a patch and wanted to know if i could just create it using text editor and then just place it in the folder where its suppose to go in filesystem and tell it to execute to make it work? is that how it works or is it not so?
[14:20] <TJ-> die7: as leftyfb says, remove/comment-out the manual package list - the first thing in these cases is to reduce the problem to barest minimum that is reproducable so others have a change to reproduce
[14:20] <TJ-> die7: Are you doing this install in a virtual machine or on bare hardware ?
[14:20] <die7> TJ-: bare
[14:21] <sruli> after latest update ubuntu-gnome, after login i get a black screen with mouse pointer ctrl+alt+t opens terminal, i can type in the terminal but nothing gui works (if i hit the X on the terminal nothing happens etc)
[14:21] <leftyfb> die7: also, the example I gave originally specifies "eth0" as the network interface. You said it failed on networking because you're using ubuntu 16.04 which uses different naming of it's devices. This is why that's an example and shouldn't just be tossed in and assumed to work out of the box
[14:25] <TJ-> die7: does the PC have multiple disks/USb flash storage  attached?
[14:26] <TJ-> die7: I ask since I see a Debian bug where, when there's multiple /unpartitioned/ storage devices in the system, debian-installer blindly selected /dev/sda which - in the bug case - wasn't the device being installed to
[14:26] <die7> leftyfb:let see it runs so far...why installer mounts partitions
[14:27] <die7> TJ-: yepp this isse I have seen also
[14:27] <leftyfb> die7: huh?
[14:27] <die7> TJ-: even if they are partitoned it runs to issue
[14:28] <leftyfb> TJ-: the issue was due to manually installing conflicting grub packages
[14:28] <die7> TJ-: installed via USB-key it mounts usb as sda :) and no grub installation at all
[14:28] <die7> TJ-: it say you chosed not to install grub
[14:28] <die7> TJ-: then it does but to sda
[14:29] <die7> TJ-: and usb-key is usles
[14:29] <die7> TJ-: I made in secon console try which work to install manualy grub to /dev/sdb
[14:29] <jimb_> ghostnik11, this might not be the best channel for the question, but I think this will help you (if this is the kind of patch you are talking about, very common) https://www.thegeekstuff.com/2014/12/patch-command-examples/
[14:30] <die7> TJ-: but my issue is to get this with kickstart
[14:32] <die7> leftyfb: hmmm
[14:35] <die7> leftyfb: removing packages worked
[14:36] <TJ-> leftyfb: where's the conflicting grub packages?
[14:39] <TJ-> die7: if you wanted to install say, just the desktop it would be sufficient to specfify "ubuntu-desktop" in the packages list - which is a meta-package the depends on everythhing required
[14:43] <die7> TJ-: it´s server..need just openssh-server at begining rest will be done by ansible
[14:43] <TJ-> die7: I /think/ your issue was caused because the debian-installer automatically does the boot-loader install but then you were telling it to also install the grub packages which probably caused 'dpkg' package configuration to get confused between the 'default' options and the debian-installer options
[14:44] <TJ-> die7: yes, I was just giving you an example of using a meta-package to pull in a set of other packages (including the correct libraries), rather than specifying
[14:44] <die7> TJ-: ahh ok
[14:44] <die7> TJ-: then is --generate realy missleading
[14:45] <die7> TJ-: does post part works like in centos kickstart
[14:45] <die7> TJ-: I need to add some ssh-keys
[14:46] <TJ-> die7: kickstart is a Red Hat tool originally and I think geared mostly to how the RH/CentOS/Fedora systems do installs. It does look like the "--generate" on Debian/Ubuntu isn't intelligent - it ought to be calling 'debfoster' to get just the list of top-level and meta packages
[14:47] <die7> TJ-: now im glad it works
[14:47] <TJ-> die7: for SSH keys see this: https://askubuntu.com/questions/364051/how-do-you-preseed-an-ssh-key#369403
[14:47] <die7> leftyfb: thank you..and sorry I was just angry
[14:48] <die7> TJ-: tnx, will try that
[14:54] <leftyfb> TJ-: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/26404832/
[14:55] <Bliepo> Hello everyone. Right now I'm in a situation where I need a 3.x kernel - is it possible to run xenial on a 3.x kernel?
[14:56] <Bliepo> Or would it be better to install an older version of Ubuntu?
[14:57] <oerheks> Bliepo, if you do, you are on your own
[14:57] <Neo4> I've installed postfix, trying to send message and nothing come to my email?
[14:57] <leftyfb> Bliepo: why do you need a 3.x kernel?
[14:57] <Neo4> use it mydestination = $myhostname, localhost.$mydomain, $mydomain
[14:57] <leftyfb> Neo4: you should try #ubuntu-server
[14:57] <Neo4> I use this command for send mail
[14:57] <Neo4> echo "This is the body of the email" | mail -s "This is the subject line" neovichnn@gmail.com
[14:58] <Bliepo> leftyfb: there is some proprietary software that install a - you guessed it - proprietary driver, which doesn't work with 4.x
[14:59] <TJ-> leftyfb: I saw those, but where is the conflict - I can't see one and was intrigued as to what you have spotted?
[15:00] <Bliepo> I'm trying to pick the 'best' out of two bad options: try running an older kernel on xenial, or run an EOL version of Ubuntu
[15:01] <sruli> after latest update ubuntu-gnome, after login i get a black screen with mouse pointer ctrl+alt+t opens terminal, i can type in the terminal but nothing gui works (if i hit the X on the terminal nothing happens etc)
[15:01] <oerheks> Bliepo, 14.04 trusty has that ol'kernel https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes/14.04
[15:01] <oerheks> still supported
[15:01] <Bliepo> I'll have to see whether it has the matlab-support package then
[15:02] <leftyfb> TJ-: yeah, maybe there isn't a conflict. I saw grub2 and legacy together and that raised a flag. Ended up just being for ec2. Either way none of those should be manually specified in package lists.
[15:03] <TJ-> leftyfb: right, that "legacy" word is a terrible red-herring.
[15:03] <Bliepo> Ah nice, it has what I need - Trusty it is then
[15:04] <oerheks> Bliepo, some help https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MATLAB
[15:05] <Kingsy> curious, with bluetoothctl, can you ghet the battery status? its 100% available becuase my android phone gets it. Would be nice and handy to be able to get it on my pc
[15:05] <VectorX> hi i want to video/record my computer screen from the time of boot, how can i do this so that it has the same clarity of using some software in the OS
[15:05] <Bliepo> Thank you oerheks, that is really helpful
[15:07] <lipe> hello
[15:09] <Harmageddon> Hi everyone! I've been trying for several days now to install cuda with a Nvidia GeForce GT 750M on Ubuntu 16.04. But the Nvidia drivers seem to mess around with my X. I can boot to the login screen, but after entering my password, I get a short black screen and then the login again (login loop). I've removed .Xauthority and .ICEauthority several times. My latest try was to add +iglx to the xserver command as recommended in https://askubunt
[15:11] <Budgii_> Hi all!
[15:11] <Budgii_> I'm trying to make a directory on my desktop.
[15:11] <Budgii_> mkdir /home/Budgii/desktop/newfoldername
[15:11] <Budgii_> this doesn't work though. Can anyone please help me?
[15:12] <TJ-> Budgii_: UPPER CASE D in Desktop ?
[15:12] <Budgii_> didnt know it was case sensitive. i'll give it a shot!
[15:13] <Budgii_> Score, thanks TJ-!
[15:14] <jimb_> Harmageddon, was it the amdgpu-pro software/drivers that you installed?
[15:14] <Harmageddon> Update: After reinstalling ubuntu-desktop, I don't seem to have to restart lightdm everytime. But still no unity. If I try to start unity manually by command line, I get a compiz crash report.
[15:15] <Harmageddon> jimb_: No, cuda and I think it was nvidia-current from the nvidia repo.
[15:15] <oerheks> sudo dconf reset -f /org/compiz/ && setsid unity £ then logout and login again ?
[15:16] <jimb_> Harmageddon, Oh, ok. I had the same symptom after installing version 17.50 of the amdgpu-pro software a few days ago and wound up having to purge it via dpkg and go back to 16.50, that's why I was asking.
[15:17] <gunix> hey guys
[15:17] <gunix> how is 18.04 beta doing?
[15:17] <hateball> !+1
[15:17] <hateball> meh
[15:17] <Budgii> another newbie question here, i'm trying to do the mv command. mv /home/budgii/Desktop/hello.py and i want to move it to /home/budgii/Desktop/python. How might I accomplish this?
[15:17] <Harmageddon> oerheks: setsid unity leads to the same compiz crash.
[15:18] <gunix> Budgii: mv /home/budgii/Desktop/hello.py /home/budgii/Desktop/python
[15:18] <oerheks> gunix, for 18.04 Q, join #ubuntu+1
[15:18] <gunix> thank you
[15:19] <Budgii> Fabulous, thanks gunix!
[15:19] <sruli> need some help, after latest update ubuntu-gnome, after login i get a black screen with mouse pointer ctrl+alt+t opens terminal, i can type in the terminal but nothing gui works (if i hit the X on the terminal nothing happens etc)
[15:21] <oerheks> you might want to try to login with xorg instead of wayland @ login, and run updates again, or apt install -f # to fix things
[15:21] <gunix> sruli: do you have an nvidia graphics carD?
[15:21] <sruli> oerheks: how do i login with xorg?
[15:21] <jimb_> Budgii, as you learn more, the 'man' command is going to become more and more helpful. For example, 'man mv' , will explain what the mv command is and it's parameters and options.
[15:22] <sruli> gunix: its a vm (same issue on multiple ubuntu-gnome vm's on different hosts)
[15:22] <sruli> host is lubuntu
[15:22] <oerheks> change it at login, if you run 17.10 that is
[15:22] <sruli> oerheks: running 16.04.3
[15:23] <Neo4> in folder I have this
[15:23] <Neo4> http://dpaste.com/1HGMRS4
[15:23] <oerheks> oh, that i don't know, not sure it has wayland, i think not
[15:24] <sruli> oerheks: in /etc/gdm3/custom.conf i have this line "WaylandEnable=false" not sure if that means that i have wayland
[15:24] <oerheks> sruli, hit ctrl alt F2, login in tty, and run updates/apt install -f ??
[15:24] <sruli> oerheks: will try now
[15:28] <blkadder> Hi all looking for some best practices advice. I have some packages where I want to replace the configuration file(s) while maintaing the use of system packages to do so. I am trying to determine a reasonably sane way of doing so short of unrolling the upstream package, inserting the changed files and rerolling. I’ve tried creating my own package with the changed files but this results in file conflicts and so they won’t be installed unless I force it.
[15:28] <blkadder> Should I use dpkg-divert as part of the post install or is there another/cleaner way?
[15:29] <sruli> oerheks: ran updates, install -f reported nothing to do, what else can i try?
[15:29] <mikeymop> this doesn't look like standard ambiance colors
[15:29] <mikeymop> http://files.programster.org/tutorials/nextcloud/add-ssl/01.png
[15:30] <mikeymop> does anyone recognize the window dec?
[15:30] <Budgii> @jimb_ thanks, i;ll try the 'man' command!
[15:31] <tomeaton17> Is it possible to set monitor scale factor to values other than multiples of 100 on ubuntu 17.10?
[15:31] <oerheks> sruli, you could try: sudo dconf reset -f /org/compiz/ && setsid unity # then logout and login again ?
[15:32] <sruli> oerheks: its very wird, never seen anything like it, it looks like a broken desktop, after ctrl+alt+t some idicators appear, and a little of the desktop is shown but nothing gui working
[15:32] <sruli> oerheks: will try now
[15:32] <sruli> oerheks: "&& setsid unity" i am using gnome not unity
[15:33] <Mr_Pan> giorgian1, giorgianb   WTF ?
[15:33] <mikeymop> tomeaton17: i think that comes with net version of gnome (3.28)
[15:34] <mikeymop> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/09/enable-fractional-scaling-gnome-linux
[15:34] <mikeymop> i am mistaken ^^
[15:35] <oerheks> sruli, other fix, try to make a fresh user, does it still persist?
[15:36] <sruli> oerheks: will try now
[15:37] <hans__> according to google, this is the best way to list all manually installed packages in apt:  comm -23 <(aptitude search '~i !~M' -F '%p' | sed "s/ *$//" | sort -u) <(gzip -dc /var/log/installer/initial-status.gz | sed -n 's/^Package: //p' | sort -u)
[15:37] <tomeaton17> mikeymop: Okay, thanks
[15:37] <hans__> i want a list of all manually installed packages, any suggestions?
[15:38] <oerheks> history | grep "apt install"
[15:39] <hans__> oerheks, yeah, cus apt and apt-get and apt --no-install-recommends and apt-get --no-install-recomemnds  and god knows what else
[15:39] <Budgii> I'm making a python script. This is what I built based off of instructions i found online but line 2 with input() does not work. What am I doing wrong?
[15:39] <Budgii> print('hello, this is my first script! press any key to continue')
[15:39] <Budgii> input()
[15:39] <Budgii> print('this utilized the "input()" command which waits for the user input to continue.')
[15:39] <hans__> oerheks, (at least i use --no-install-recommends *sometimes*)
[15:40] <oerheks> hans__, that filter would give a list, apt/apt-get
[15:43] <kostkon> Budgii, what's the error you are getting
[15:45] <sruli> oerheks: new user works fine, how do i fix old one?
[15:45] <skinux> Is there special software required to make a private repo (directory) on my computer to which I can use to install downloaded packages via Synaptic?
[15:45] <Budgii> @kostkon, when i hit a key, this is what returns.
[15:45] <Budgii> hello, this is my first script! press any key to continue
[15:45] <Budgii> Traceback (most recent call last):
[15:45] <Budgii>   File "./hello.py", line 2, in <module>
[15:45] <Budgii>     input()
[15:45] <Budgii>   File "<string>", line 0
[15:45] <kostkon> !paste
[15:46] <sruli> oerheks: this is a serious issue, all ubuntu-gnome (vm's) i installed latest updates on have the same issue
[15:47] <jimb_> Budgii, you probably need to use quotes in your reply to input(), you could also use raw_input() instead... then you wouldn't need to...
[15:48] <Budgii> @jimb_ what do you mean use quotes?
[15:50] <Budgii> raw_input() worked :) thank you sir!
[15:50] <jimb_> When you type your input... instead of something like... this is my input... try "this is my input"
[15:52] <Budgii> https://paste.ubuntu.com/26405035/
[15:52] <Budgii> that didnt seem to fix the issue jimb_
[15:52] <jimb_> one moment
[15:53] <jimb_> anInput = raw_input("What? ");print('this utilized the "raw_input()" command which waits for the user input to continue. Input was '+anInput)
[15:53] <xtron> how to move all files except one?
[15:53] <EriC^^> xtron: mv !(filename) /new/location
[15:54] <EriC^^> that doesn't move hidden files though
[15:54] <sruli> oerheks: in .xsession-errors last line is "unable to create /home/user/.dbus/session-bus
[15:55] <xtron> EriC^^: if the new location (folder) is in the same directory, then?
[15:55] <sxo_> maybe use rsync with --exclude?
[15:56] <xtron> I'm trying like .......... ls -v garbag | mv some_variable
[15:57] <nacc> xtron: you want xargs for something like that, but even so, there are better ways to do it
[15:58] <jimb_> Budgii, did you see my one-liner? It doesn't have to be a single line.
[15:58] <Budgii> Jimb_ I did. I didnt quite understand it so i'll just stick with raw_input()
[15:58] <Budgii> :)
[16:00] <jimb_> Budgii, I highly suggest raw_input() over input() when asking humans to provide input. using input() requires the human to start and end their input with quotes.
[16:01] <Budgii> Ahhhh, now I understand!
[16:06] <die7> leftyfb: https://pastebin.com/yBKLRsvU
[16:06] <die7> leftyfb: TJ- this one works now fine also managed to get update system and to put ssh keys
[16:07] <blacknred0> hi - I don't have the PC with me to test... but, does anybody know another way to change the current kernel to an older one? i tried holding "SHIFT" to get grub2 when it boots, but it doesn't seem to work
[16:08] <pavlos> Budgii: https://gist.github.com/a3ac185cbcefc2a3d483093dbd5aa7a5
[16:08] <die7> blacknred0: you have access to system?
[16:09] <blacknred0> die7: not right now... when it boots to the current kernel i tried different tty's and it is like frozen.  I'be been planning to do a live boot and see if I can remove that new kernel, but would like to see if i have other options :)
[16:09] <TJ-> blacknred0: For GRUB2 the key is Escape not Shift - because on EFI systems the state of the modifier key flags is not accessible
[16:10] <TJ-> blacknred0: and you have yo be tapping it, not just hold it down since GRUB has to detect the actual key-press
[16:10] <Budgii> @pavlos, see result https://paste.ubuntu.com/26405129/
[16:11] <blacknred0> TJ-: :O , I'll try that tonight
[16:11] <die7> TJ-: will that work also for GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0
[16:11] <TJ-> die7: I'm not entirely sure, but if that is set you'd have to be quick :D
[16:11] <die7> TJ-:  :))
[16:12] <Harmageddon> Could my problem be related to the fact that cuda installed the nvidia 387.26 driver, while the nvidia website lists only 384 for my GeForce 750M?
[16:12] <Harmageddon> And if yes, how would I solve that?
[16:12] <pavlos> Budgii: did you run my example using python3 and you got that error?
[16:13] <Budgii> Ah, I just typed python ./pavlos.py - python3 worked! thank you
[16:13] <pavlos> Budgii: p2 handles input() diff than p3
[16:14] <Budgii> pavlos: Is p3 most used?
[16:15] <TJ-> die7: glad you got it sorted out
[16:16] <sruli> TJ-: any chance you can help me with my issue? after latest update on ubuntu-gnome 16.04.3 after login i get black screen, i can open terminal and execute commands but thats it, desktop looks broken cant click on anything, i created new test account, that works fine, how can i fix old account? .xsession-errors last line is "unable to create /home/user/.dbus/session-bus"
[16:16] <TJ-> sruli: you should know I don't touch Unity/Gnome with a barge-pole :p
[16:16] <pavlos> Budgii: yes, python3 is preferable
[16:17] <sruli> TJ-: didnt know, i guess you are gonna have to get used to it in 18.04
[16:18] <sruli> TJ-:  would you know what this might be "unable to create /home/user/.dbus/session-bus"?
[16:18] <sxo_> whatnow about 1804?
[16:21] <B14CK-SPID3R> hello guys, i've just reinstall ubuntu 16.04. i want to take a back up for when my ubuntu will be crash to avoid reinstalling. which folder do i need to exclude in tar backup?
[16:21] <brainwash> sruli: delete or move your .dbus directory
[16:21] <mistralol> B14CK-SPID3R: exclude /proc /dev /sys
[16:22] <brainwash> sruli: or change ownership back to your user (assuming that it's currently owned by root)
[16:22] <TJ-> sruli: No, I don't use ubuntu-desktop/gnome-desktop at all
[16:24] <arthur_> Hi
[16:24] <B14CK-SPID3R> mistralol: Thank you sir. so for recovery, what do i do if ubuntu stuck before login page?
[16:25] <TJ-> sruli: if this has happened in multiple systems (VMs) after a package update you should report a bug, and include the list of upgraded packages from /var/log/apt/history.log so we can figure out what caused the regression
[16:25] <sruli> brainwash: i do not have a .dbus dir in my HOME dir
[16:28] <sxo_> it's a hidden file, try alt+.
[16:28] <sxo_> or do it from terminal
[16:33] <nicomachus> hi all. I disabled my internal wifi card about a year or two ago to use a USB dongle exclusively, but now I can't remember how to re-enable it.
[16:33] <lordcirth_work> nicomachus, blacklisting the module perhaps?
[16:34] <TJ-> nicomachus: 'disable' ? is the driver loaded? does NM see it but not manage it (entry in interfaces maybe?)
[16:34] <nicomachus> lordcirth_work: I may have done that, yea
[16:34] <sruli> sxo_: ls -lah does not show .dbus, i see it in a unity PC but not on gnome
[16:34] <lordcirth_work> nicomachus, look in /etc/modules and /etc/modules.d/* for 'blacklist something'
[16:35] <nicomachus> TJ-: lshw shows it as a network device, but it's unclaimed and there's no driver
[16:35] <nicomachus> lordcirth_work: both are empty
[16:36] <nicomachus> lordcirth_work: https://paste.ubuntu.com/26405229/
[16:39] <TJ-> nicomachus: "grep -rn  blacklist /etc/modprobe.d/"
[16:40] <nicomachus> TJ-: /etc/modprobe.d/: no such file or directory
[16:40] <nicomachus> lol what
[16:41] <TJ-> nicomachus: did you break the system?
[16:42] <nicomachus> totally possible
[16:42] <Budgii> @pavlos, is there just more features in p3? Just looking at the syntax difference from the simple script of python and python 3 to achieve the same, python looked more simple.
[16:43] <tomeaton17> How can I automatically load Xresources when I log into ubuntu 17.10?
[16:43] <Budgii> @pavlos, example here: https://paste.ubuntu.com/26405248/
[16:46] <pavlos> Budgii: python3 has more features. Your paste is correct, line 13 should read "utilized raw_imput()" and in line 10 you can copy line 1 and use /usr/bin/python
[16:47] <nicomachus> hey TJ- I'm an idiot. modprode != modprobe
[16:47] <nicomachus> TJ-: https://paste.ubuntu.com/26405265/
[16:48] <nicomachus> and I see iwlwifi there
[16:48] <sruli> oerheks: TJ-: found the problem, since the update it does not support 1920x1080 resolution, change from the command line to 1024x768 and it works, how can i fix it so it allows higher resolution?
[16:49] <pavlos> Budgii: https://learntocodewith.me/programming/python/python-2-vs-python-3/
[16:50] <pavlos> Budgii: http://sebastianraschka.com/Articles/2014_python_2_3_key_diff.html
[16:50] <Budgii> @pavlos, thanks! I'm reading right away.
[16:54] <nicomachus> TJ-: I removed the blacklist and then enabled the driver with modprobe, but the device doesn't find any networks (my USB dongle just fine)
[16:54] <nicomachus> it may be a hardware issue with it, which is why I disabled it originally, but wanted to check again since it's been while
[17:00] <Harmageddon> Where can I find what lead to the crashing of unity? xsession-errors only gives me "openConnection: connect: Could not find file or directory, cannot connect to brltty at :0" and the termination of several unity indicators.
[17:01] <TJ-> nicomachus: is "rfkill list" showing the device unblocked
[17:03] <nicomachus> TJ-: nothing on the list
[17:04] <TJ-> nicomachus: does dmesg indicate it cannot load some firmware file?
[17:05] <tomeaton17> How can I get ctrl+alt+t to open up a .desktop program?
[17:05] <TJ-> tomeaton17: "xdg-open path/to/file.desktop"
[17:06] <tomeaton17> TJ-: It opens the desktop file in gedit
[17:07] <nicomachus> TJ-: doesn't seem to be any error loading it
[17:07] <TJ-> tomeaton17: drat!
[17:08] <nicomachus> tomeaton17: is it executable?
[17:09] <tomeaton17> nicomachus: Not its not
[17:10] <nicomachus> TJ-: dmegs | grep -A 10 iwlwifi: https://paste.ubuntu.com/26405487/
[17:11] <tomeaton17> nicomachus: I tried to make it executable but it still opens in gedit
[17:11] <ioria> tomeaton17, you can use  gtk-launch   file.desktop   (but the .desktop should be located in /usr/share/applications or in ~/.local/share   )
[17:11] <TJ-> tomeaton17: how about "gtk-launch path/to/file.desktop" ?
[17:12] <nicomachus> someting something great minds
[17:12] <tomeaton17> It tells me no suck application
[17:12] <tomeaton17> s/suck/such
[17:12] <TJ-> tomeaton17: actually, I think that needs a URI protocol  "gtk-launch file://path/to/file.desktop" ?
[17:13] <TJ-> nicomachus: iwlwifi device a 2.4GHz only; is your AP on 5.xGHz ?
[17:13] <luxio> how do I turn off the boing sound
[17:14] <ioria> tomeaton17, the command is in the libgtk-3-bin  package
[17:14] <jnewt> i have very slow page loading (10-20 seconds), but speed tests are good (28 Mbps on fast.com).  tried /etc/init.d/networking force-reload with no improvement.   dns is pointed to my router which forwards.  other computers (windows) do not have this issue.  only have this one linux computer.
[17:14] <Budgii> turnoff -boingsound ./desktop/ireallydontknowhaha
[17:14] <rauno> Hey, any tips on how to package some C library to be used as a input dependecy for some other package ?
[17:14] <jnewt> firefox is way worse than chrome.
[17:14] <nicomachus> TJ-: no. current wifi dongle (working) is only 802.11bg
[17:15] <Budgii> just search sound on your 'start bar'
[17:15] <Budgii> should be settings that way
[17:16] <nicomachus> TJ-: worth noting, lshw still shows *-network DISABLED for the iwlwifi device
[17:16] <tomeaton17> No that still doesnt fix it. application is urxvt and this is my desktop file for it https://gist.github.com/tomeaton17/bb2850fd55760367de19b867701ed0aa
[17:17] <tomeaton17> I want when I press ctrl+alt+t to open the same urxvt I can see in the dock
[17:17] <JonelethIrenicus> does apt have an undo function?
[17:17] <nicomachus> JonelethIrenicus: no
[17:17] <JonelethIrenicus> it should
[17:17] <JonelethIrenicus> :D
[17:18] <nacc> JonelethIrenicus: you can look in your history and then reverse the operation
[17:18] <nicomachus> JonelethIrenicus: apt remove <package>
[17:18] <sruli> JonelethIrenicus: it would be called Break the Sys function
[17:18] <TJ-> nicomachus: is there a node show by "ip link"? if so, how about "sudo ip link set up dev wlp9s0"
[17:19] <JonelethIrenicus> would be a godo safety feature especially with drivers
[17:19] <JonelethIrenicus> could even have a little prompt asking the user if the install worked properly
[17:19] <nicomachus> TJ-: ip link shows the node, no output from second command
[17:20] <TJ-> nicomachus: right, so it should now be in state 'up' so a scan should work
[17:20] <nacc> JonelethIrenicus: when you say drivers, do you mean third party, binary drivers?
[17:21] <nacc> JonelethIrenicus: that prompt would get incredibly annoyinng, which means it wouldn't be the default, which means it would never be used
[17:21] <TJ-> nicomachus: "nmcli dev wifi rescan ifname wlp9s0"
[17:21] <JonelethIrenicus> nacc: sure
[17:21] <nicomachus> TJ-: diff before and after: https://paste.ubuntu.com/26405565/
[17:22] <TJ-> nicomachus: hmmm
[17:22] <Budgii> @pavlos, when i typed 'python ./hello.py' am i using python 2?
[17:22] <nicomachus> Budgii: yes
[17:23] <TJ-> nicomachus: I'd check what Network Manager is reporting in syslog, it's very verbose
[17:23] <TJ-> Budgii: it depends; it is usually a symlink through 'alternatives' so "python --version" might be best to check
[17:23] <nicomachus> Budgii: python3 ./hello.py would be python 3. just 'python' is 2.7
[17:23] <Budgii> nocomachus: thanks! i'm beginner here. :) TJ- i'll do that
[17:24] <nicomachus> under normal conditions, at least
[17:24] <JonelethIrenicus> nacc: if you are a super leet haxor i think you could disable it
[17:24] <Budgii> python 2.7.14
[17:24] <JonelethIrenicus> nacc: ubuntu is suppose to be linux for human beings :D
[17:25] <Budgii> From what I'm reading up on, they say learn python 2 first. but the future is going toward 3, so would be just fine learning 3. I think i'll just learn both
[17:25] <nicomachus> TJ-: possibly unrelated, syslog is full of this: Jan 17 11:20:28 nicomachus-Inspiron-N5110 gnome-session[1778]: (tracker-miner-fs:1942): Tracker-CRITICAL **:   (Sparql buffer) Error in task 3 of the array-update: UNIQUE constraint failed: nie:DataObject.nie:url (strerror of errno (not necessarily related): No such file or directory)
[17:25] <TJ-> nicomachus: 'tracker-miner-fs' - I doubt it
[17:26] <nicomachus> trying to figure out what that is
[17:27] <TJ-> nicomachus: is there an ifupdown entry for the device? "grep -rn wlp9s0 /etc/network/ "
[17:27] <nicomachus> /etc/network/interfaces:4:iface wlp9s0 inet manual
[17:27] <rauno> if have some library install in nixos, how can i link it to package build inputs ?
[17:27] <TJ-> !info tracker-miner-fs
[17:28] <raph_ael> hi, I've just seen there is a runit-init package, but installing it breaks the init system and will break the system, is there a way to use runit as main init ?
[17:28] <Kingsy> anyone in here know much about bluetoothctl ?
[17:28] <TJ-> nicomachus: there you are then - NM will not take over management of devices that ifupdown is managing. Remove that entry and restart NM and it should start working
[17:29] <nicomachus> yea looks like tracker-miner-fs is deprecated in 16.04 and a known bug
[17:30] <nicomachus> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tracker/+bug/911981
[17:30] <lotuspsychje> Kingsy: best to ask your specific issue in the channel with all details, ubuntu version, kernel,steps taken
[17:31] <Fire-Dragon-DoL> hello! What's the right communication channel to request a package update for a software with a CVE fixed recently? (if any, I have no idea of the right procedure)
[17:31] <TJ-> Kingsy: *hand up
[17:31] <lotuspsychje> Fire-Dragon-DoL: perhaps #ubuntu-hardened
[17:32] <nicomachus> TJ-: ayyyyy checking in now from internal network card!
[17:32] <Fire-Dragon-DoL> let's try
[17:32] <nicomachus> !yay
[17:33] <nacc> Fire-Dragon-DoL: did you check usn?
[17:38] <pavlos> Budgii: yes, python2 is /usr/bin/python and python3 is /usr/bin/python3
[17:39] <pavlos> Budgii: try those ... which python, which python3, whereis python, whereis python3
[17:40] <Fire-Dragon-DoL> nacc: not sure what USN is but lotuspsychje suggested in ubuntu-hardened and they cleared it. Looks like the fix has been backported, I thought it was only on 2.92-1
[17:40] <TJ-> Fire-Dragon-DoL: it's the web site you just looked at! Ubuntu Security Notices
[17:40] <lotuspsychje> !yay | Fire-Dragon-DoL
[17:41] <Fire-Dragon-DoL> oh.... UPS :P sorry missed the website name
[17:41] <TJ-> Kingsy: did you have a bluetoothctl question?
[17:41] <Fire-Dragon-DoL> now I just have to make sure not to reboot my raspberry until I'm back home because I had the bad idea of upgrading while outside of the country to fix the security :P
[17:43] <Budgii> pavlos: for what reason does /usr/bin/python have to be declared in the script?
[17:45] <pavlos> Budgii: you dont have to but it is customary, with that line ./p.py will use the interpreter it finds in the first line. Without it, you type, python p.py or python3 p.py
[17:46] <pavlos> Budgii: got a meeting in a few, will be away from keyboard
[17:46] <Budgii> thanks for all your input pavlos! talk later.
[17:51] <Budgii> So I am trying to make a script that creates a directory. This is just guess work. Any tips? https://paste.ubuntu.com/26405699/
[17:52] <EriC^^> Budgii: perhaps try joining #python ?
[17:52] <Budgii> word, thanks EriC^^!
[17:52] <EriC^^> no problem
[17:59] <AvidWolf43> ps
[18:02] <kozmikreis> I'm having certificate problems :-(  With a wget from the server to itself I get "ERROR: cannot verify ***.co.uk's certificate, issued by ‘CN=RapidSSL SHA256 CA,O=GeoTrust Inc.,C=US’"
[18:02] <kozmikreis> I've installed the root and PEM (converted to .crt) files but no difference :-/
[18:02] <kozmikreis> Any advice please?
[18:03] <TJ-> kozmikreis: have you done "sudo update-ca-certificates"
[18:03] <kozmikreis> TJ-: yup
[18:03] <kozmikreis> TJ-: it reported adding them successfully
[18:04] <kozmikreis> TJ-: does it need restarting like some kind of Win machine?
[18:05] <TJ-> kozmikreis: do a test to check the certs using "openssl s_client -debug -connect host:port "
[18:06] <TJ-> kozmikreis: restarting == No. but should the HTTP server be sending an intermediate certificate chain, and if so, is it configured to do that?
[18:06] <eloycoto> Hi, do anyone know why no Zesty repo on ubuntu? http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/
[18:07] <kozmikreis> TJ-: yes I'm doing that debug now, it shows the problems but I still don't understand why :-/
[18:07] <jose-phillips> hi im trying to setup
[18:07] <jose-phillips> multipath tools boot
[18:07] <jose-phillips> for create a multipath environment on iscsi diskless erver
[18:07] <jose-phillips> server
[18:07] <jose-phillips> but i get this error
[18:07] <jose-phillips>  libdevmapper: ioctl/libdm-iface.c(1876): device-mapper: reload ioctl on ROOTDISK failed: Device or resource busy
[18:07] <kozmikreis> TJ-: yes the cert + chain works when requested off-server from my browser.
[18:07] <lotuspsychje> jose-phillips: perhaps ask in #ubuntu-server mate
[18:08] <TJ-> kozmikreis: does the wget localhost connection require/use SNI ?
[18:09] <kozmikreis> TJ-: I don't know, I'll investigate
[18:09] <kozmikreis> TJ-: Thanks :-)
[18:09] <lotuspsychje> !mainline | eloycoto
[18:12] <auronandace> !zesty | eloycoto
[18:14] <switchcade> !eol
[18:15] <ElectrumGuy> hi all, I am trying to install ubuntu on a VM (Proxmox) but during install I am getting t his: "the failed step is: configure the package manager"
[18:15] <ElectrumGuy> https://imgur.com/a/VZBpb
[18:15] <switchcade> is it usual for releases to be removed from http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/ as soon as EOL is reached? Seems like this happened for zesty
[18:17] <lotuspsychje> switchcade: end of life means what it says mate
[18:18] <switchcade> lotuspsychje: makes sense, I was just surprised that yakkety is still there
[18:20] <BluesKaj> !yakkety
[18:22] <CoJaBo> Is there any info on the Daily builds (of Bionic); particularly, will those update to the final release cleanly, or would they need a full reinstall to get a stable system?
[18:22] <lotuspsychje> CoJaBo: yes
[18:23] <hggdh> CoJaBo: they will upgrade cleanly
[18:23] <lotuspsychje> CoJaBo: updating system results in the final
[18:23] <lotuspsychje> CoJaBo: come check #ubuntu+1
[18:23] <eloycoto> lotuspsychje: yes, I know the EOL, but yakkety was in there. It is a bit weird TBH
[18:23] <CoJaBo> lotuspsychje: cool, that's exactly the channel i wanted
[18:25] <dsaravanan> Is Linux 4.4.0-109-generic vulnerable to spectre and meltdown attack? System Information: OS version: Ubuntu 16.04.3 LTS, CPU info:  Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-3110M CPU @ 2.40GHz
[18:25] <renn0xtk9> I am using a ubuntu based (KDE-Neon ) since today any machine I start via virtualbox lead to complete freeze of the host computer (i have to power-shutdown it)
[18:25] <lotuspsychje> !kpti | dsaravanan
[18:25] <hggdh> dsaravanan: -109 protects against meltdown, but not scpectre
[18:25] <renn0xtk9> anybody experience it too?
[18:26] <lotuspsychje> renn0xtk9: perhaps the #kubuntu guys have noticed that?
[18:26] <hggdh> renn0xtk9: I have heard of problems with VBox and the new kernels (with KPTI)
[18:27] <renn0xtk9> hggdh that was my thought in the first place indeed
[18:30] <TJ-> renn0xtk9: do the VMs cause it if you start their kernel's with "nopti" on their kernel command-line?
[18:31] <renn0xtk9> Tj where should I place this command?
[18:31] <dev_> 5
[18:31] <renn0xtk9> (it crashes windows as well as linux guest)
[18:32] <lotuspsychje> !tab | renn0xtk9
[18:34] <dsaravanan> I run this script https://raw.githubusercontent.com/speed47/spectre-meltdown-checker/master/spectre-meltdown-checker.sh and it showed the status for 'Spectre Variant 1 and 2' as vulnerable and for "Meltdown" as not vulnerable.
[18:35] <teward> dsaravanan: and?  There's no stable patches for Variant 1 or 2 now.
[18:35] <nacc> dsaravanan: #ubuntu-hardened if you have further questions, i expect
[18:35] <teward> so until there's stable patches out for them you'll remain 'vulnerable' with the script checks.  But also, #ubuntu-hardened
[18:35] <teward> that's where you want to gol.
[18:36] <new2linux> Hello all!
[18:36] <swift110> hey new2linux
[18:37] <new2linux> I have a Dell 2720 that was running 17.10 and I just updated it, now the screen goes only into 1920x1080 mode not 2560x1440 mode, can any suggest how I can fix this??
[18:37] <new2linux> when I boot up it doesn't boot into 2560x1440 mode like it used too
[18:39] <x04e> new2linux: have you checked xrandr?
[18:40] <new2linux> yes and it shows the top resolution as 1920x1080, though the Dell does 2560x1440 as I used to have that resolution in the list when I checked with xrandr before.
[18:40] <new2linux> some update must have broken something!
[18:40] <x04e> display driver?
[18:40] <lotuspsychje> new2linux: check your graphics driver?
[18:41] <new2linux> how do I do that?
[18:41] <lotuspsychje> new2linux: sudo lshw -C video
[18:41] <new2linux> I thought the drivers are built into the kernel, no?
[18:41] <x04e> not if proprietary
[18:41] <new2linux> ok 1 second - lemme run that command
[18:43] <new2linux> https://paste.ubuntu.com/26405977/
[18:43] <new2linux> how do I know which graphics board the built in LCD is using?
[18:44] <x04e> hmm
[18:44] <new2linux> hmm to what?
[18:45] <x04e> well you have 2 cards
[18:45] <ioria> new2linux, xrandr --listproviders   what it says ?
[18:45] <x04e> seems like intel is used now since you only have 1920x1080
[18:45] <x04e> and nvidia was used before
[18:45] <x04e> maybe you upgraded kernel and didn't upgrade kernel modules of nvidia driver so it either isn't working or not used as default
[18:46] <jstarcher> hey all, I'm having trouble with something that should be really simple. My work VPN only works on windows and macos, it's a java applet that creates a tunnel and adds routes. I'm trying to use a spare macbook as sorta a VPN server so my traffic would go Linux Desktop --> Macbook VPN --> Router --> Internet. I've tried connecting a cord between the linux desktop and macbook and setup Internet Sharing on
[18:46] <jstarcher> the macbook. I can get internet through (through via my home connection), however, I cannot connect to anything on my work network of 10.0.0.0/8. My home network is 192.168.0.1/24 luckily, so no conflict there. I tried doing a few route add commands on the macbook but this is where I get stuck. I also ensured net.inet.ip.forwarding and net.inet.fw.enable are enabled. What am I missing?
[18:46] <new2linux> https://paste.ubuntu.com/26405993/
[18:47] <jstarcher> do I need to do NAT on the macbook or add a route to connect 192.168.2.0/24 -> 10.0.0.0/8
[18:47] <jstarcher> or both
[18:47] <x04e> i guess you have to route your client into 10.0.0.0
[18:47] <ioria> new2linux, cat /proc/cmdline
[18:47] <x04e> and back
[18:47] <x04e> yea nat could work
[18:48] <Richard_Cavell> Bashing-om, Hi, it's me with the Ubuntu installation that was borked
[18:48] <new2linux> how did you determine which one I am using (Intel vice nVidia)?
[18:48] <jstarcher> do I
[18:48] <Richard_Cavell> Bashing-om, I just re-installed Ubuntu on this computer and it's working perfectly. There's a slight irritation in having to re-set up all my favourite apps etc but it's working
[18:48] <Richard_Cavell> thanks for your help
[18:48] <new2linux> what nvidia drives should I install?
[18:48] <lotuspsychje> new2linux: ubuntu-drivers list to check
[18:48] <new2linux> huh?
[18:49] <ioria> new2linux, are you using nomodeset ?
[18:49] <lotuspsychje> new2linux: open a terminal: ubuntu-drivers list
[18:49] <new2linux> I didn't try that, should I use
[18:49] <new2linux> lotuspsychje: one sec
[18:49] <jstarcher> xoke: is route enough or would i need to nat too
[18:49] <new2linux> nvidia-340 nvidia-384 intel-microcode
[18:49] <Bashing-om> Richard_Cavell: Well, regret I was not that much help .. Great ya back up, though.
[18:50] <jstarcher> I figured I already had NAT going with the internet sharing in osx
[18:50] <lotuspsychje> new2linux: you can try one of those driver versions if you like
[18:50] <x04e> well route would work if the packets coming back will use your 192.168 as address for back route
[18:50] <x04e> if that is not the case you will have to use nat
[18:50] <dlam> how do you analyze load average?  my server seems stuck at 16.00
[18:50] <jstarcher> that's cool with me
[18:51] <new2linux> removing nvidia-304 which is installed
[18:51] <jstarcher> so `route add -net 192.168.2.0/25 10.128.215.142` ?
[18:51] <jstarcher> the 142 address is what my vpn created
[18:51] <nicomachus> dlam: htop has some useful info
[18:52] <jstarcher> in my route table I see destination 10/24 gateway 10.128/215/142
[18:52] <lotuspsychje> new2linux: your paste showed nouveau was installed?
[18:52] <nicomachus> dlam: see also /proc/loadavg
[18:52] <Bashing-om> new2linux: nvidia recommends the 384 version driver : http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/128737/en-us .
[18:52] <new2linux> oh I didn't realize that, should I remove it
[18:52] <jstarcher> or do I set gateway to the utun0 interface
[18:53] <x04e> i guess if you route it into the vpn with source address 192.168... it won't go back into the vpn because there may be a 192.168... in the target network
[18:53] <lotuspsychje> new2linux: check what Bashing-om suggests
[18:53] <nicomachus> dlam: /proc/loadavg will show something like 0.91 0.48 0.62 3/357 16607. those first three numbers are average load over 1, 5, and 15 mins. If you need more, you can set a cron to log that to a text file and get a longer timeframe avg
[18:53] <new2linux> lotuspsychje: was that a question or are you telling me, I am lost as to what drives to put in
[18:53] <x04e> so i guess NAT is your best option. Be aware of different NAT-Types though -> Symmetric e.g.
[18:54] <Bashing-om> new2linux: EFI system where "secure boot " requires disabling to install a driver ?
[18:54] <lotuspsychje> new2linux: the opensource driver is nouveau, if you like you can test your 2 other nvidia drivers to see if that fixes your resolution issue
[18:55] <SimonNL> jstarcher: you could have a try on #networking
[18:55] <lotuspsychje> new2linux: and Bashing-om suggests 384
[18:55] <new2linux> https://paste.ubuntu.com/26406035/
[18:56] <new2linux> ok, how do I tell it which drivers to use?
[18:56] <x04e> modprobe?
[18:57] <EriC^^> new2linux: sudo apt-get install nvidia-384
[18:57] <jstarcher> SimonNL: they are rude and unhelpful in #networking
[18:57] <x04e> haha
[18:57] <nicomachus> true
[18:57] <EriC^^> he speaketh the truth
[18:57] <lotuspsychje> jstarcher: we try to focus on ubuntu issues here
[18:57] <jstarcher> bunch of old grumpy networking dudes
[18:58] <SimonNL> probably two sides to that story
[18:58] <new2linux> huh?
[18:58] <new2linux> I removed all the nvidia drivers and just installed nvidia-384
[18:59] <new2linux> should I remove nouveoa?
[18:59] <lotuspsychje> new2linux: check at bottom driver=
[18:59] <jstarcher> oh definitely. I work on "fancy websites" according to the networking guy at my company and he works on the network
[18:59] <x04e> haha well it goes both sides
[18:59] <Bashing-om> new2linux: lot// 304 for sure you do not want ! run - with secire boot disabled ! ' sudo apt update ; sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf ; sudp apt purge nvidia* ; sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall ' .
[18:59] <new2linux> lotuspsychje: huh? checj what?
[19:00] <lotuspsychje> new2linux: try what Bashing-om suggests, nvm
[19:00] <x04e> i was in sysops and changed to dev
[19:00] <SimonNL> jstarcher: my idea was that they have more knowledge about networks
[19:00] <x04e> sysops and dev usually don't like each other :P
[19:00] <new2linux> ok
[19:00] <jstarcher> hope so, that's what they get paid to do
[19:03] <new2linux> following bashing-om instructions
[19:10] <dsaravanan> I upgraded to Linux 4.4.0-109-generic. Is it safe and recommended to purge Linux 4.4.0-108-generic, which also showed as install with the command dpigs?
[19:11] <x04e> if 4.4.0-109 is running fine you can apt-get autoremove the previous version
[19:12] <cyphex> If you just upgraded, I would recommend waiting a couple days before removing the old kernel
[19:12] <zomaar> My god it was so hard to find a way to scale a pdf image
[19:12] <zomaar> I was losing faith in my ability to curse the world
[19:13] <dsaravanan> x04e: apt-get autoremove does not remove the 4.4.0-108 and there are list of old kernel versions though not as installed
[19:14] <new2linux> Bashing-om: your commands were completed how do I see if it will go into 2560x1440 mode and use the nvidia card instead of the
[19:14] <swift110> how do I update the kernel
[19:14] <new2linux> it loaded 384 also
[19:15] <new2linux> ubuntu-drivers list now shows: ubuntu-drivers list nvidia-384 nvidia-340 intel-microcode
[19:15] <new2linux> shouldn't nvidia-340 be removed??
[19:16] <lotuspsychje_> new2linux: list, means its available
[19:16] <zomaar> swift110: sudo apt install linux-image
[19:16] <swift110> thanks zomaar
[19:17] <zomaar> No linux-generic
[19:17] <new2linux> oh ok! I did a dpkg --list | awk '($2 ~ /nvidia/) { print $0;}' and see only nvidia-384 installed now
[19:17] <praet> Q: just upgraded to 17.10 on xubuntu, now nautilus cannot open files unless I right click and Open with other'
[19:17] <praet> anyone know how to trouble shoot nautilus?
[19:17] <dsaravanan> swift110: you can see the kernel-ppa at http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[19:18] <aconitum> question: is this http://www.nvidia.com/Download/driverResults.aspx/130042/en-us compatible with Xenial Xerus? (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-340/)
[19:19] <new2linux> Bashing-om: (or anyone) - how do I force Ubuntu (when it boots up) to pick the nvidia card and not the intel card as the video card to use?
[19:19] <Bashing-om> new2linux: Have you rebooted to see if the nvidia driver takes effect ?
[19:19] <new2linux> not yet, but I will!
[19:19] <swift110> dsaravanan, not sure how to use that
[19:19] <new2linux> I am on a work chat too that I have to tell them I am rebooting
[19:19] <Bashing-om> new2linux: then it is nvidia-prime in the GUI to switch graphic's sets .
[19:19] <zomaar> swift110: The standard kernel is upgraded through linux-generic
[19:20] <new2linux> Bashing-om: run nvidia-prime?
[19:20] <zomaar> swift110: You can also run apt dist-upgrade
[19:20] <swift110> ok thanks
[19:20] <Bashing-om> new2linux: No, is a GUI thingy .
[19:20] <new2linux> Bashing-om: I see no nvidia-prime binary to run
[19:21] <new2linux> Bashing-om: I am confused
[19:21] <pauljw> praet, check settings > preferred applications and make sure nautilus is selected.
[19:21] <lotuspsychje_> !info nvidia-prime | new2linux
[19:21] <dsaravanan> swift110: if not sure, i recommand to follow zomaar
[19:21] <zomaar> Yikes
[19:21] <new2linux> nvidia-prime is already installed and at its latest variant apt-get says
[19:22] <Bashing-om> new2linux: pastebin ' dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia ' .
[19:23] <dsaravanan> yikes - expressing shock and alarm, often for humorous effect
[19:23] <new2linux> Bashing-om: https://paste.ubuntu.com/26406147/
[19:23] <swift110> oh
[19:24] <new2linux> I have nvidia prime 0.8.5 installed
[19:24] <lotuspsychje_> new2linux: with prime, you can switch from intel to nvidia graphics
[19:25] <Bashing-om> new2linux: A fact that ii  nvidia-settings . So are you running a GUI ? in this GUI is the nvidia Xserver settings . You will find nvidia-prime .
[19:25] <zomaar> With Optimus Prime, you can do even more.
[19:25] <Bashing-om> !bumblebee
[19:26] <praet> pauljw: well switching to thunar worked .. I guess thats a workaround for now
[19:26] <lotuspsychje_> praet: perhaps try reinstall nautilus?
[19:27] <new2linux> Yes, the GUI I an running is 'gdm3' I think
[19:28] <new2linux> Bashing-om: is that what you are asking me? I am using the gdm3 GUI not the lightdm gui
[19:29] <Bashing-om> new2linux: Then there will be an icon in the GDM3 interface .
[19:30] <new2linux> Bashing-om: hm, now I am a bit lost. do you want me to run nvidia-settings from the command line and see if it opens a a graphical interfae of some sort?
[19:30] <new2linux> I do not see an icon that I am unfamiliar with
[19:31] <praet> lotuspsychje_: I tried moving .config/nautilus and purge/install.. same result. I can open desktop files fine, but opening files in the nautilus listing does nothing
[19:31] <lotuspsychje_> praet: how about on another user?
[19:31] <Bashing-om> new2linux: I have no access to GDM3 desktop . I can not advise further . Play with it and see what you find .
[19:31] <lotuspsychje_> praet: another test could be run nautilus from terminal, to check errors?
[19:31] <new2linux> Bashing-om: I see the nvidia icon in the programs listing, I clicked it and it brought up the nvidia-settings program
[19:32] <new2linux> I have never used that program
[19:32] <praet> lotuspsychje_: is there any debug flags.. Im not getting any output
[19:32] <new2linux> I have no idea what to do with it now that it is up?
[19:32] <lotuspsychje_> praet: wich ubuntu/nautilus version is this?
[19:32] <praet> lotuspsychje_: hang on.. its working now
[19:32] <praet> from terminal
[19:33] <Bashing-om> new2linux: All I can advise is to find "nvidia-prime ' as that is the app that controls the chip set in use . what ever you have as active is what will be used next boot .
[19:33] <new2linux> ok 1 second
[19:33] <new2linux> I am going to try rebooting and see what happens
[19:34] <new2linux> I'll be back here either way!
[19:34] <lotuspsychje_> praet: have to bbl mate, re-ask in channel with your output ok
[19:34] <praet> lotuspsychje_: it works when i set thunar to the preferred application
[19:34] <praet> lotuspsychje_: ok thanks for the help!
[19:38] <praet> pauljw: thanks for the advice. switching to thunar for now
[19:38] <sruli> i have a dir with many files named by date time and name  "2017_11_25-10_20_31__some_name" i want to rename all to "some_name__2017_11_25-10_20_31" so take all before __ separator and move it to end of name (adding new __ separator)
[19:38] <praet> strangely, when I switch the preferred application to Thunar, then run nautilus, nautilus can open files from the list... so strange
[19:38] <nacc> sruli: `man rename` ?
[19:39] <sruli> nacc: its a very limited man page
[19:40] <nacc> sruli: by that you mean you don't know perl expressions?
[19:40] <nacc> sruli: i'm pretty sure a quick google will help you there
[19:41] <nacc> sruli: if you don't know regex at all, well, you can't do what you want without that
[19:41] <pauljw> good deal, praet :)
[19:41] <gordonjcp> nacc: https://xkcd.com/208/
[19:42] <sruli> nacc: true about perl, googled... finding many pages on replacing part of the name but NOT finding how to swap positions when the only common part of file name is "__"
[19:42] <nacc> sruli: don't think in terms of swapping. it's about saving some state (back-expressions) and then using that state later
[19:44] <sruli> nacc: not sure how to do it, i can wtore a 15 line bash script to do it, but would like to be able to do it in a 1 liner
[19:45] <nacc> sruli: ok, as i said, learn about regex if you want to do it in 1 line, not really an ubuntu support topic
[19:48] <zomaar> sruli: ls | sed "s/\(.*\)__\(.*\)/\2__\1/" is something resembling what nacc implies
[19:50] <mircx1> Hello i want to know how  i run mbedtls ssl/tls in ubuntu?
[19:51] <nacc> zomaar: teach a man how to fish...
[19:52] <zomaar> Hey it just looked pretty, that's why
[19:53] <Jordan_U> sruli: Note that anyone was implying that you should, but don't use ls in scripts.
[19:53] <nacc> Jordan_U: +1
[19:53] <Jordan_U> s/note/not/ :)
[19:53] <sruli> Jordan_U: very aware, thanks
[19:54] <sruli> zomaar: thanks
[19:55] <mircx1> ?
[19:57] <Bashing-om> !info mbedtls zenial
[19:57] <Bashing-om> !info mbedtls xenial
[19:57] <mircx1> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mbedtls
[19:58] <mircx1> then is mean is not run from ubuntu
[20:01] <nacc> mircx1: i explained this to you yesteday i think
[20:02] <nacc> mircx1: that builds a library
[20:02] <nacc> mircx1: the link you provide is to a source, nont a binanry
[20:02] <nacc> mircx1: so i don't know what you are doing, or what you think you are doing, etc. and i believe i asked for logs and you never provided them
[20:09] <new2linux> Bashing-om: hello! - I have no new modest success
[20:09] <new2linux> Bashing-om: woops - let me rewrite that - what I said is wrong
[20:10] <nacc> mircx1: if you would like to provide any of that info, someone can help you
[20:10] <new2linux> Bashing-om: when I booted up and removed "quiet splash" and replaced it with "nomodeset" then it booted up in the highest resolution. However, what sucked about that was that my entering my secure disk password had to be done in text mode (I have 2 secure disks) so it had to be done twice also. When splash mode is in full effect I enter it once from the boot gui. Thus, I'd like to figure out what command line change I need to use 
[20:10] <new2linux> splash and get it to boot in high res mode
[20:11] <sxo_> don't remove the splash ;)
[20:11] <new2linux> by the way: THANK YOU to everyone that has assisted me so far!
[20:12] <ioria> new2linux, displayLink  in use , for any chance ?
[20:12] <new2linux> huh?
[20:12] <ioria> nvm
[20:12] <new2linux> what is displaylink and how do I use it or detect it? is it hardware or software?
[20:13] <Bashing-om> new2linux: "nomodeset" defeats Kernel Mode Setting - proprietary driver will not load .
[20:13] <new2linux> ok
[20:13] <new2linux> so if "nomodeset" is causing it to enter the highest resolution mode, what does that tell us about using the prop driver or fixing it to work?
[20:15] <ioria> usually it's the contrary, afaik
[20:15] <Bashing-om> new2linux: Not a clue to work with . Remove nomodeset - reboot and advise on the GUI condition at that point . problems, we start looking at the log files .
[20:16] <new2linux> I tried booting several times without nomodeset and when I did, it gave me the low-res mode again
[20:16] <new2linux> right now I am booting in nomodeset but I can reboot without it and then we can do more examination I guess, that is the best way ahead now?
[20:17] <new2linux> booting=booted
[20:17] <new2linux> would using the open source drivers be a good thing to try?
[20:18] <Bashing-om> new2linux: "Sometimes" nouveau performs the better :)
[20:18] <new2linux> I am not a "debian style" open source snob, I am fine to use closed source drivers if they work.
[20:18] <ioria> new2linux, have you already pasted   lspci -k | grep -EA2 'VGA|3D'  ?
[20:18] <new2linux> no but let me do that!
[20:20] <new2linux> https://paste.ubuntu.com/26406471/
[20:21] <ioria> new2linux, again xrandr --listproviders , please
[20:22] <new2linux> https://paste.ubuntu.com/26406479/
[20:22] <new2linux> I left all the history there of previous commands so you can see what has changed also
[20:22] <ioria> new2linux, that output it's not normal
[20:23] <ioria> new2linux, i see , nomodeset ...
[20:23] <new2linux> ok, well, currently the machine is booted with 'nomodeset' having been used
[20:23] <ioria> new2linux, yeah
[20:23] <new2linux> I can reboot without nomodeset if you like
[20:23] <ioria> new2linux, yes, i like it
[20:24] <new2linux> ioria: you want me to reboot without nomodeset you mean?
[20:24] <ioria> yup
[20:24] <new2linux> ok
[20:24] <new2linux> brb
[20:26] <sxo_> missing bbswitch-dkms & nvidia-prime? weird
[20:27] <ioria> prime is there
[20:27] <sxo_> ah
[20:27] <sxo_> was looking at the wrong one
[20:27] <ioria> and also bbswitch-dkms
[20:27] <Jon30> hey guys, not sure where to ask, but I got this file on my server https://site.com/Autodiscover/Autodiscover.xml - I know it's related to MS exchange server. Does anybody have experience removing it?
[20:29] <ioria> i'am wondering how he can have intel and nvidia loaded with nomodeset ...
[20:30] <Zer0x_> anyone here uses the byond platform?
[20:31] <new2linux> ioria: https://paste.ubuntu.com/26406520/
[20:32] <new2linux> I am back in 1920x1080 mode too
[20:34] <ioria> new2linux, glxinfo | grep "OpenGL renderer"
[20:35] <new2linux> ioria: https://paste.ubuntu.com/26406535/
[20:37] <ioria> new2linux, can you switch to intel ?
[20:39] <Bashing-om> ioria: new2linux Verify that wayland is not in effect ? - OP says on GDM3 however .
[20:40] <ioria> oh, 17.10 ???
[20:40] <new2linux> yes
[20:40] <ioria> no, you can't
[20:40] <new2linux> huh?
[20:40] <ioria> new2linux, log in the xorg session
[20:40] <new2linux> 17.10 is installed, too late to say I can't install it
[20:41] <ioria> new2linux, yu cn't use proprietary on wayland
[20:41] <new2linux> what is wayland?
[20:41] <ioria> new2linux, 17.10 default X server
[20:41] <new2linux> okay
[20:41] <Zer0x_> Hi
[20:41] <new2linux> but I have gmd3 installed, isn't that the X server?
[20:41] <Zer0x_> new2linux
[20:42] <ioria> new2linux, from the login screen, select ubuntu on xorg or such
[20:42] <new2linux> there is no such login no gear like there used to  be
[20:42] <new2linux> extirpated from Ubuntu in 17.10 I think is that gear!
[20:43] <ioria> new2linux, you need to edit /etc/gdm3/custom.conf
[20:44] <ioria> new2linux,  set ' WaylandEnable=false'
[20:48] <Zer0x_> hello guys
[20:48] <Zer0x_> how can i talk in linux channel
[20:49] <Bashing-om> !register | Zer0x_
[20:49] <Zer0x_> thank you ubottu
[20:50] <Zer0x_> !register
[20:53] <ericx2x> guys i used to have HDMI audio going but no longer and I duno what changed
[20:53] <ericx2x> aplay -l doens't give me any hdmi
[20:53] <ericx2x> what do i do?
[20:54] <new2linux> I did some googling and Wayland is the future for Ubuntu as far as I can see, so shouldn't I find drivers that will work with it as in future disabling it might mean no GUI at all??
[20:54] <new2linux> ioria: or is this just to perform a test?
[20:55] <brainwash> what drivers do you need?
[20:55] <ioria> new2linux,  for now, you can't use nvidia on wayland, so you need the old xorg session
[20:55] <Guest58347> italian  boy or girl aren 't present...........
[20:55] <new2linux> there is this nouveou thing that I can use with Wayland, no?or that is broken with Wayland too?
[20:56] <Bashing-om> new2linux: wayland is the future, but presently there are issues using nvidia drivers .
[20:56] <ioria> new2linux,  if you don't have the switch in the login screen, you need to edit  /etc/gdm3/custom.conf
[20:56] <new2linux> nouveau
[20:56] <new2linux> Ah ok!
[20:56] <new2linux> let me do that then!
[20:56] <ioria> new2linux,  i guess nouveau, it's ok
[20:56] <ioria> new2linux, but you installed nvidia
[20:57] <new2linux> I installed nvidia because someone told me too
[20:57] <new2linux> all I did was upgrade my kernel and everything broke to low res modes
[20:57] <ioria> new2linux, ok, so or you change session or you purge nvidia
[20:57] <new2linux> it used to boot into 2560x1440 before
[20:57] <new2linux> change session?
[20:58] <ioria> new2linux, yes, from waylsnd (Ubuntu) to Xorg (Ubuntu on Xorg)
[20:58] <new2linux> ah ok
[20:58] <ioria> *wayland
[20:58] <new2linux> how do I purge nvidia and try nouveau?
[20:58] <ioria> new2linux, nouveau is default, if you already tried it ....
[20:59] <new2linux> I am not sure what I tried
[20:59] <new2linux> so
[20:59] <new2linux> I know how to purge nvidia because someone gave me that command before I realized
[20:59] <new2linux> I can do that
[20:59] <new2linux> what do I need to do to make sure nouveau is completely installed though?
[20:59] <ioria> new2linux, if the issue is really about the kernel, why don't you boot a previous one from grub ?
[20:59] <new2linux> neither this one nor the previous one worked after the upgrade
[21:00] <new2linux> they both booted up but in low res mode
[21:00] <new2linux> I am now extirpating nvidia from the system!
[21:02] <new2linux> ioria: I did an apt-get purge nvidia* and its in the process of ridding the system of those drivers
[21:03] <new2linux> ioria: I am running this now: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-nouveau nouveau-firmware libdrm-nouveau2
[21:04] <new2linux> anything else I need to do to make sure to do to assure that nouveau is used?
[21:12] <zomaar> Making disk-based backups of LVM systems is always such drama
[21:12] <blackflow> use ZFS for no drama.
[21:13] <zomaar> With all the UUIDs etc
[21:14] <zomaar> I had filtered the source disk and thought I was using the target disc
[21:14] <zomaar> But I had forgotten to vgchange -an in between
[21:14] <zomaar> So it was still using the now-filtered PV
[21:14] <sn09smc> Hello, I just installed ubuntu server and want to use Handbrake CLI to rip a DVD. However, there is nothing showing is /media
[21:15] <zomaar> Then I wrote to a file on the old PV, and then switched to the new PV, and the same file on the new PV was garbage probably due to a cache
[21:16] <zomaar> Then if you have something filtered (lvm global_filter) when you chroot into some system chances are you'll forget that it has its own /etc/lvm/lvm.conf
[21:18] <sn09smc> Does anyone know what the default DVD path is in most recent Ubuntu?
[21:19] <zomaar> So I had grub-install complaining that LVM was using a different PV than the one it was seeing, etc....
[21:22] <arktvrvs> the device is /dev/dvd.  but if you mean automounting thats in (/media?)
[21:24] <damntourists> hi, i'm trying to run a apt-get update on a relatively new install of kubuntu 17.04 and i'm getting the following.. i didn't get these errors a few days ago. https://pastebin.com/pLemkDeF should i be concerned?
[21:24] <sn09smc> arktvrvs, thanks. I am trying to find it using handbrake-cli. Just setup an Emby server, but was going to use the same machine to start ripping the DVDs as well.
[21:25] <sn09smc> I just found this link though that lets me specify as /dev/sr0, bout to test it. https://askubuntu.com/questions/239748/unable-to-rip-dvd-using-handbrake-or-ogmrip
[21:26] <leftyfb> damntourists: Ubuntu 17.04 is no longer supported. You'll need to upgrade to 17.10
[21:26] <damntourists> seriously?
[21:26] <Bashing-om> !17.04 | damntourists
[21:27] <leftyfb> damntourists: 17.04 is a non-LTS that was released over 9 months ago. They are only supported for 9 months.
[21:27] <damntourists> i went with 17.04 on saturday since the 17.10 download link wasn't enabled due to some flaw on some machines
[21:27] <damntourists> oh i see
[21:27] <leftyfb> damntourists: 17.10 is available now. Not sure how you got 17.04 since it's not on the main site for download.
[21:27] <damntourists> am i able to upgrade to 17.10 via command line, or do i need to do it from live cd again?
[21:28] <damntourists> perhaps i caught it during the transition period
[21:28] <damntourists> it was available on kubuntu.org/getkubuntu a few days ago
[21:28] <leftyfb> damntourists: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtfulAardvark/ReleaseNotes#Upgrading_from_Ubuntu_17.04
[21:28] <Bashing-om> damntourists: Command line/GUI is still in effect ..
[21:33] <louvetvicente> I have a permission problem with Netatalk / afpd while trying to setup a time machine server, can someone assist?
[21:35] <louvetvicente> It appears that the issue is that folders are created by the user that logs into TimeMachine, but subsequent users can't access the .plist file created by the first user, this is because the files/directories are created as owned by a group named after user A, instead of using a group that both user A and user B are included in
[21:35] <Gaerandil90> hi friend
[21:35] <Gaerandil90> im have one problem
[21:35] <Gaerandil90> https://thepasteb.in/p/vghO8QmWEvph3
[21:35] <Gaerandil90> im have problem teamspeak
[21:37] <Gaerandil90> friend?
[21:43] <NippoGamingYT> hola
[21:44] <dgandhi> Esoteric USBserial question: I run LXDE with an lxterm, in which i'm running screen to open /dev/ttyUSB0 which connects to a cico switch via a keyspan adapter at 9600bps - I loose data when I paste a large config file into the terminal which suggests I'm filling a buffer that then drops the extra bytes - I suspect the usb-adapter - but is there another likely suspect in my pipeline?
[21:44] <gordonjcp> dgandhi: it's quite likely the adaptor
[21:45] <gordonjcp> dgandhi: you could see if screen has got some flow control options
[21:45] <gordonjcp> dgandhi: frankly though, that's an insane way to go about it
[21:45] <arktvrvs> Gaerandil90, the file must not be in that location?
[21:46] <TJ-> dgandhi: see man stty" and use some of the flow-control methods in your call to "screen /dev/ttyUSB0 115200,cs8,..."
[21:46] <gordonjcp> dgandhi: pasting a config file in is stupid, and will almost certainly introduce errors
[21:46] <gordonjcp> dgandhi: you should tftp it in
[21:46] <Gaerandil90> arktvrvs:  the position download
[21:47] <dgandhi> I ended up pushing a 40 line minimal config and the network tech put in the full config over ssh - we needed to get bgp up in a remote office, so i had only my usb dongle
[21:48] <Gaerandil90> https://thepasteb.in/p/BghPKYQ0MrXFY arktvrvs
[21:51] <oerheks> Gaerandil90, see their howto, https://forum.teamspeak.com/threads/131452-How-to-install-TeamSpeak-Client-on-Ubuntu-16-x
[21:51] <dgandhi> TJ:  if the problem is with the adapter, it seems like flow control would not fix the buffer issue, unless you are positing that the router dropped the date
[21:52] <Gaerandil90> dgandhi:
[21:52] <TJ-> dgandhi: without flow control being enabled it is likely it'll suffer buffer overrun
[21:52] <Gaerandil90> https://thepasteb.in/p/r0hwZgKXJvMfK dgandhi
[21:53] <SkaMan814> Hi Everyone! I'm trying to use the transmission-daemon on Xubuntu 17.10, and followed the official ubuntu wiki to set it up.  Every time I try to download something through the web UI, I get a permission denied error.  Thought the folder is set to 775 with debian-transmission:debian-transmission ownership.  I'm really not sure what's going on.
[21:53] <TJ-> dgandhi: something like "screen /dev/ttyUSB0 9600,cs8,crtscts,ixon,istrip"
[21:54] <SkaMan814> It's connecting to peers, will download a few MB, and then I get the error.
[21:55] <oerheks> SkaMan814, debian-transmission ?? ask in #debian perhaps?
[21:55] <oerheks> transmission should be configured properly on ubuntu..
[21:55] <dgandhi> TJ: Ok so my presumption of the dongle being bad is likely unfounded, since i should expect to loose data on the serial line without ixon,crtscts ?
[21:56] <SkaMan814> debian-transmission is the default username the transmission-daemon package comes with from the ubuntu repos
[21:56] <SkaMan814> I configured it according to the official ubuntu wiki
[21:57] <dgandhi> (bad in undesired outcome, not mechanically broken)
[21:58] <goptimus> hey guys what's up ?
[22:01] <TJ-> dgandhi: it could be, and it relies on the serial cable section having RTS/CTS and/or DTR/DSR connected, and the USB<>RS232 chipset to support it
[22:05] <dgandhi> I'm not sure of the RS232 compliance of the cisco RJ45 adapter, or the $15 firmware dependant(why?) dongle , so the minimal config it probably a good general strategy, given how many places this can fall over.
[22:08] <TJ-> dgandhi: well it can only ignore what you ask it to do :)
[22:09] <dsaravanan> is it advisable to replace unity with xfce in 16.04.3 LTS?
[22:13] <oerheks> SkaMan814, oohh, you need to whitelist your local ip in settings.json https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TransmissionHowTo#Configure
[22:15] <goptimus> dsaravanan: what's difference betwen v.16.04.3 and v.16.04
[22:22] <Bashing-om> !info linux-image-generic-lts-xenial xenial
[22:22] <Bashing-om> !info linux-image-generic-lts-xenial
[22:27] <Bashing-om> goptimus: 16.04 runs kernel 4.4.0.109. and the associated X stack, where as 16.04.3 runs 4.13.0.25.31 .
[22:27] <Bashing-om> !hwe | goptimus
[22:28] <Bundestrojaner> good evening. I've just installed dvd::rip but the transcode-menu looks like ~2005: No mkv-container, no h264. Only avi, mpeg and ogg, xvid,...
[22:28] <Bundestrojaner> Is the version in Ubuntu's repo extremely outdated or are there missing libs on my system? (i don't get any usefull matches on google
[22:29] <DJAnonimo> hello
[22:30] <DJAnonimo> any idea how to make my power button poweroff the PC? Ubuntu 16.04 on OrangePI ARM64
[22:30] <DJAnonimo> orangepi@Orangepi:~$ gsettings set org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.power button-power poweroff
[22:30] <DJAnonimo> No such schema 'org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.power
[22:30] <nacc> Bundestrojaner: afaict, dvd::rip is dead (last release was 2010 at https://www.exit1.org/dvdrip/)
[22:30] <sxo_> Bundestrojaner, last time i had do that i used MakeMKV
[22:30] <nacc> Bundestrojaner: and that version is the version in all current ubuntu, afaict
[22:31] <Bundestrojaner> nacc sxo_: thx, https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/DVDs_rippen/ could use an update i guess
[22:31] <sxo_> a
[22:31] <nacc> Bundestrojaner: well, not an official wiki, and ... it's a wiki
[22:31] <sxo_> also handbrake can do it i guess?
[22:32] <nacc> Bundestrojaner: so go do that
[22:32] <sxo_> also ich sprache nicht deustch
[22:33] <Bundestrojaner> it mentions for example K9 is dead since 2011 - it doesn't say anything similar about dvd::rip
[22:33] <Bundestrojaner> thx anyway, i will try handbreak
[22:37] <arthur__> Is there any way to save this room to some kind of favorites?
[22:38] <nacc> arthur__: ... that seems wholly up to your irc client
[22:38] <arthur__> Oh, OK. I'm very new to Linux. I'm asking a lot of silly questions lately lol
[22:40] <StephenLynx> hey, I saw autoremove end up removing a few modules, including for my video
[22:40] <StephenLynx> so I reinstalled it.
[22:40] <StephenLynx> so I looked into what autoremove did
[22:40] <StephenLynx> https://pastebin.com/wS50YHaT
[22:40] <StephenLynx> I noticed kernel headers were removed.
[22:40] <arktvrvs> probably old versions?
[22:41] <salamanderrake> Was zesty completly removed?
[22:41] <nacc> StephenLynx: it removed unused headers
[22:41] <StephenLynx> why would it end up removing kernels?
[22:42] <nacc> StephenLynx: i don't see it removing any modules that you ctually need, if you are current
[22:42] <StephenLynx> mdules*
[22:42] <nacc> StephenLynx: because you only need two kernels, the current one and the last one
[22:42] <nacc> salamanderrake: it's eol
[22:42] <JonelethIrenicus> when you make something where does it go?
[22:42] <JonelethIrenicus> like compile it with cmake
[22:42] <stephaltair> Hello steph
[22:42] <JonelethIrenicus> and do a make install
[22:42] <nacc> JonelethIrenicus: it doesn't go anywhere, you built it
[22:42] <salamanderrake> nacc: oh, wow, thanks.
[22:42] <nacc> JonelethIrenicus: ah, make install is different
[22:42] <nacc> JonelethIrenicus: depends on the Makefile
[22:42] <StephenLynx> nacc, not kernels, but modules
[22:43] <nacc> StephenLynx: modules for unused kernels
[22:43] <altaiir_> Salut ça va?
[22:43] <StephenLynx> did I do good into reinstalling the proprietary drivers?
[22:43] <nacc> StephenLynx: not understanding what something does, does not mean it is wrong. Do you have an actual issue? What kernel are you running?
[22:43] <stephaltair> altaiir_: salon privé?
[22:43] <nacc> StephenLynx: I have no idea. What proprietary drivers?
[22:44] <goptimus> altaiir_: Ouais ça va . mais on parle anglais ici
[22:44] <nacc> !fr | altaiir_, stephaltair
[22:44] <StephenLynx> let me get it
[22:44] <StephenLynx> https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[22:44] <StephenLynx> these drivers
[22:44] <StephenLynx> and I am asking because I know that if something that shouldn't be removed is removed
[22:44] <zomaar> Moved my system to a new harddrive and now no output whatsoever after selecting the boot entry from grub....I wonder what I would have forgotten this time...............
[22:44] <StephenLynx> it will work until you want to boot and it doesn't.
[22:45] <StephenLynx> happened to me once when I removed x by accident on a different machine
[22:45] <nacc> StephenLynx: ... remove X "by accident"??
[22:45] <goptimus> altaiir_: le français c'est ici /loin #ubuntu-fr
[22:45] <StephenLynx> dumb mistake
[22:45] <StephenLynx> but yeah
[22:45] <StephenLynx> that was what happened.
[22:45] <nacc> StephenLynx: in any case, the paste you provided does not show anything about drivers
[22:45] <StephenLynx> indeed it doesnt.
[22:46] <tomreyn> zomaar: how did you move it? the rest of the hardware is the same?
[22:46] <altaiir_> read the message before talk (<stephaltair> altaiir_: salon privé?)
[22:46] <StephenLynx> but the log showed a few modules being removed and one semed from the driver.
[22:46] <StephenLynx> too bad I didn t save it
[22:46] <nacc> StephenLynx: what log?
[22:46] <StephenLynx> from autoremove
[22:46] <StephenLynx> not log, but output.
[22:46] <nacc> StephenLynx: what kernel are you on now?
[22:46] <zomaar> tomreyn: Just dd to a different drive, and then dd to the target drive, then grub-install, update-grub and update-initramfs -u
[22:47]  * zulrax_ 
[22:47] <StephenLynx> linux-image-4.10.0-28-generic
[22:47] <nacc> StephenLynx: what version of ubuntu?
[22:47] <StephenLynx> 16
[22:47] <zomaar> tomreyn: maybe something in the initrd breaks, I guess I can use something like break=top right?
[22:47] <nacc> StephenLynx: you are incredibly out of date and insecure currently
[22:48] <StephenLynx> meltdown and stuff?
[22:48] <StephenLynx> actually
[22:48] <tomreyn> zomaar: hmm sorry, i don't actually know break=top
[22:48] <altaiir_> goptimus no answer?*
[22:48] <nacc> StephenLynx: you should either be on 4.4 or 4.13 by now, i believe
[22:48] <StephenLynx> https://pastebin.com/zvhJgQxt
[22:49] <StephenLynx> 4.13 is somewhere there
[22:49] <nacc> StephenLynx: what kernel are you on *now*
[22:49] <nacc> StephenLynx: dpkg doesn't tell you that, `uname -r`
[22:49] <StephenLynx> i dunno, I didn't 4.13.0-26-generic
[22:49] <StephenLynx> 4.13.0-26-generic
[22:49] <zomaar> tomreyn: System also has an updated LVM so I may be conflating things because earlier that version caused boot problems ;-).
[22:49] <tomreyn> zomaar: but my guess is (also) on either grub's configuration or the initramfs.
[22:49] <nacc> StephenLynx: ok, then that log is removing useless kernels for you
[22:49] <nacc> StephenLynx: probably you saw it removing the drivers for those old kernels
[22:49] <zomaar> tomreyn: But I guess I will just have to try again first after I got some food
[22:49] <nacc> StephenLynx: and didn't understand what it was doing
[22:49] <StephenLynx> hm
[22:50] <zomaar> tomreyn: Yeah I checked the grub config it was already and uses LVM names
[22:50] <StephenLynx> yeah, I don't fiddle with low level or proprietary drivers often
[22:50] <tomreyn> zomaar: food sounds good, i'll have some, too. good luck!
[22:54] <zomaar> tomreyn: The only thing I hate is having to setup the chroot again ;-).
[22:54] <zomaar> I wish chroot got updated with a flag to mount all that stuff
[22:56] <zomaar> tomreyn: I checked the system with dpkg -V, nothing seems to be corrupted in any case
[22:56] <Zer0x_> Hi
[22:56] <Zer0x_> How can I untar a file into a specified directory
[22:56] <stephaltair> altaiir_: né ok
[22:56] <nacc> Zer0x_: `man tar` ... -C flag
[22:57] <Zer0x_> tar -xf wine_gecko-2.47-x86-unstripped.tar.bz2 -C ~/.wine/drive_c/windows/system32/gecko/2.47/wine-gecko
[22:57] <stephaltair> quii
[22:57] <Zer0x_> I did that ^
[22:57] <Zer0x_> And this is what I get
[22:57] <Zer0x_> wine/drive_c/windows/system32/gecko/2.47/wine-gecko tar: wine_gecko-2.47-x86-unstripped.tar.bz2: Cannot open: No such file or directory tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[22:57] <nacc> Zer0x_: ... well does that file exist in the current directory?
[22:57] <Zer0x_> No
[22:58] <nacc> Zer0x_: then i'm not sure what you expected
[22:58] <nacc> Zer0x_: re-reaad the section in `man tar` about -C
[22:58] <nacc> Zer0x_: specifically, "this option is order-sensitive"
[22:58] <Zer0x_> Thanks nacc
[22:59] <Zer0x_> So I should enter the file in the directory
[22:59] <Zer0x_> Right?
[22:59] <nacc> Zer0x_: in which directory? do you understand what you did wrong?
[22:59] <Zer0x_> In the wine-gecko dir
[23:00] <Zer0x_> Yeah, as in, the tar file isn't on the specified directory or location
[23:00] <Zer0x_> Right? nacc?
[23:00] <nacc> Zer0x_: you told it to use a file in the current directory called wine_gecko-2.47-x86-unstripped.tar.bz2, which doesn't exist
[23:00] <Zer0x_> Yeah, so I moved it onto that location
[23:01] <nacc> Zer0x_: if you meant a file called wine_gecko-2.47-x86-unstripped.tar.bz2 in ~/.wine/drive_c/windows/system32/gecko/2.47/wine-gecko, then you need to re-read the manpage, as i said
[23:01] <Zer0x_> manpage?
[23:01] <nacc> Zer0x_: `man tar`, which I've now said a few times.
[23:01] <altaiir> do you red me
[23:01] <Zer0x_> Oh yeah, man, my brain... nac
[23:01] <Zer0x_> nacc
[23:02] <altaiir> Ok
[23:05] <zomaar> Zer0x_: In case you case -C doesn't effect -f, only the target (or source) location, also the order is only relevant if you add something behind -C such as specific files to extract
[23:07] <Zer0x_> zomaar, so what would be the command for extracting this file on wine_gecko
[23:07] <Zer0x_> I am super confused now, and it just shows me errors...
[23:07] <nacc> zomaar: to quote myself, teach a man to fish ...
[23:08] <nacc> Zer0x_: did you read the manpage?
[23:08] <Zer0x_> I have read some man page commands and I am super confused nacc
[23:08] <nacc> Zer0x_: how do you mean, "some man page commands"?
[23:08] <zomaar> You're only teaching people to read manpages, not the actual stuff ;-).
[23:08] <Zer0x_> commands on the manual
[23:09] <zomaar> That's like teaching someone to read in order to teach someone to fish
[23:09] <Zer0x_> the manual page is huge and I don't know how to use it properly yet
[23:09] <zomaar> But not ever actually showing him a rod
[23:09] <nacc> Zer0x_: what do you mean, exactly?
[23:09] <nacc> zomaar: agree to disagree then.
[23:09] <Zer0x_> Untar-ing is the only thing I am finding very hard as of now nacc | zomaar
[23:10] <zomaar> Zer0x_: The -f file must be accessible using the path you give it
[23:10] <nacc> Zer0x_: did you read, specifically as I mentioned, the -C part
[23:10] <zomaar> Zer0x_: The -C file is only the target location in this case
[23:11] <Zer0x_> nacc, let me check | I simply want to untar it on the desired location, zomaar
[23:13] <zomaar> Zer0x_: Tar will complain if the leading components of the -C path do not exist
[23:13] <Zer0x_> Okay no avail, the information isn't getting to me clearly... zomaar | nacc
[23:13] <nacc> Zer0x_: ok, let's start over
[23:13] <Zer0x_> Yeah
[23:13] <nacc> Zer0x_: you want to untar a file into a specific directory, right?
[23:13] <Zer0x_> Yeah
[23:13] <Zer0x_> :)
[23:13] <nacc> Zer0x_: then you need to do this: tar -x -f /path/to/file -C /path/to/directory
[23:14] <nacc> Zer0x_: you made /path/to/file, 'file', which is interpreted by your shell as './file'
[23:14] <nacc> Zer0x_: if you meant to say, look in /path/to/directory for 'file', then you should have specified -C *first* (manpage says the order matters)
[23:15] <jimmy12384> hey I had my rpi3 working fine until I rebooted today and now firefox crashes immediately on open, any idea?
[23:15] <zomaar> jimmy12384: Yeah turn off automatic updates ;-)
[23:16] <zomaar> jimmy12384: Or check the apt history.log to see what has happened
[23:16] <jimmy12384> alright thanks
[23:17] <Zer0x_> tar -x -f  ~/home/downloads/wine_gecko-2.47-x86-unstripped.tar.bz2  -C ~/.wine/drive_c/windows/system32/gecko/2.47/wine_gecko
[23:17] <Zer0x_> Is it like that, nacc?
[23:17] <nacc> Zer0x_: yees
[23:19] <Zer0x_> Wow really?!?!??! nacc
[23:21] <nacc> Zer0x_: yes
[23:22] <Zer0x_> I will be back tomorrow it seems I got an error, thank you for all nacc, maybe something is wrong again
[23:22] <nacc> Zer0x_: ok
[23:25] <jimmy12384> yeah it looks like the current firefox release isnt compatible with this version of ubuntumate
[23:26] <new2linux> Hello all, I am back.
[23:27] <stan7> hi everybody, im learning, i have a problem, im learning python, im trying to do cgi scripts, im on linux, i did my script cgi with .py and i put in /usr/lib/cgi-bin directory but i cant open, i dont know why, i think its some about cgi modules, maybe? i dont know how to fix it, can you help me please?
[23:27] <new2linux> I was trying to fix a problem wherein after I installed some kernel updates my Ubuntu box (running on a Dell 2720 all in one XPS) seems no longer to boot up into the full 2560x1440 resolution and now only boots at 1920x1080!
[23:27] <stan7> Internal Server Error
[23:27] <stan7> The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request.
[23:27] <stan7> Please contact the server administrator at webmaster@localhost to inform them of the time this error occurred, and the actions you performed just before this error.
[23:27] <stan7> More information about this error may be available in the server error log.
[23:27] <stan7> im on apache
[23:27] <kk4ewt> jimmy12384,  the newest firefox is very locked down compared to the older versions
[23:27] <new2linux> things I have done to test stuff: https://paste.ubuntu.com/26406535/
[23:28] <nacc> stan7: and did you look in the log?
[23:28] <new2linux> any help would most greatly appreciated!
[23:28] <new2linux> would=would be
[23:28] <stan7> nacc: no, what log? i dont know what you mean, sorry, im new
[23:30] <nacc> stan7: the apache2 error log, as it said
[23:30] <nacc> stan7: /var/log/apache2/error.log iirc
[23:30] <new2linux> a log is a round thing you throw on a fire to keep it going I think, no?
[23:30] <Guest45469> hola
[23:34] <jimmy12384> ah okay, thats good to know, thanks kk4ewt
[23:34] <stan7> nacc: Internal Server Error
[23:34] <stan7> The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request.
[23:34] <stan7> Please contact the server administrator at webmaster@localhost to inform them of the time this error [Wed Jan 17 17:20:07.183843 2018] [cgi:error] [pid 3496] [client 127.0.0.1:41126] AH01215:   File "/usr/lib/cgi-bin/prueba.py", line 11: /usr/lib/cgi-bin/prueba.py
[23:34] <stan7> [Wed Jan 17 17:20:07.183896 2018] [cgi:error] [pid 3496] [client 127.0.0.1:41126] AH01215:     : /usr/lib/cgi-bin/prueba.py
[23:35] <stan7> [Wed Jan 17 17:20:07.183904 2018] [cgi:error] [pid 3496] [client 127.0.0.1:41126] AH01215:     ^: /usr/lib/cgi-bin/prueba.py
[23:35] <nacc> !paste | stan7
[23:35] <stan7> [Wed Jan 17 17:20:07.183927 2018] [cgi:error] [pid 3496] [client 127.0.0.1:41126] AH01215: SyntaxError: EOF while scanning triple-quoted string literal: /usr/lib/cgi-bin/prueba.py
[23:35] <nacc> stan7: you have a syntax error.
[23:36] <Bashing-om> new2linux: Thst last shows still having nvidia as the driver ( providers: 1 name:NVIDIA-0) . What is the DE now ; ' echo $XDG_SESSION_TYPE ' ?
[23:36] <stan7> nacc: thanks a lot
[23:36] <stan7> nacc: so i need to fix my code, right?
[23:37] <nacc> stan7: uh, yes
[23:37] <nacc> stan7: not really an ubuntu support topic :)
[23:38] <stan7> nacc: thanks a lot my friend
[23:42] <graft> hi all, why is there no zesty on us.archive.ubuntu.com?
[23:44] <graft> i see xenial, yakkety, and artful, but no zesty
[23:44] <nacc> graft: it's EOL
[23:44] <nacc> !zesty | graft
[23:45] <graft> huh. how come Yakkety is still around then?
[23:46] <nacc> graft: probably oversight
[23:46] <graft> okey dokey
[23:52] <zomaar> I am pretty confident the LVM of Yakkety has a problem with the (4.10) kernel of Xenial
[23:53] <zomaar> But the LVM of Xenial is just way too old and risky... :-/.
[23:54] <nacc> zomaar: ... yakkety is eol
[23:54] <nacc> zomaar: your combination doesn't make any sense
[23:55] <zomaar> nacc: What do you suggest, compiling from source?
[23:55] <zomaar> As if that would make sense
[23:55] <nacc> zomaar: i would suggest not testing or using eol releases
[23:56] <zomaar> What does that have to do with LVM?
[23:56] <nacc> zomaar: you said "the LVM of Yakkety"
[23:56] <nacc> zomaar: ... for one thing, yakkety was a 4.8 kernel, nothing in yakkety is meant to work with any other kernel
[23:56] <zomaar> Yes so I can also try the LVM of Zesty or even Aardvark but that wouldn't make sense either, now would it
[23:56] <zomaar> Okay
[23:56] <nacc> zomaar: stop mixing your releases.
[23:56] <nacc> if you are on xenial, use xenial's LVM
[23:57] <nacc> if you need a newer LVM, use a newer release
[23:57] <zomaar> So then compile from source, how does that make it better?
[23:57] <nacc> zomaar: i never said that, please stick to support topics. What I listed is what is supported.
[23:57] <zomaar> This makes no sense
[23:58] <nacc> seems like the correct choice.