| MooDoo | howdy all | 09:01 |
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| brobostigon | morning boys and girls. | 09:04 |
| MooDoo | howdy brobostigon | 09:04 |
| brobostigon | hi MooDoo | 09:05 |
| SuperMatt | morning reprobates | 10:03 |
| MooDoo | howdy SuperMatt | 10:03 |
| * SuperMatt tips hat | 10:04 | |
| MooDoo | SuperMatt: new job ok | 10:05 |
| MooDoo | ? | 10:05 |
| SuperMatt | yeah, it's going well | 10:05 |
| SuperMatt | lots of learning to do | 10:05 |
| SuperMatt | because there's a lot of insanely clever stuff going on here | 10:05 |
| MooDoo | awesome | 10:07 |
| czajkowski | ola | 10:28 |
| awilkins | Gnnnnneh, Seahorse really needs fixing to tell you that it's generating a key | 11:29 |
| awilkins | It just drops out at the end of the dialog and doesn't tell you anything... so gpg2 is sat inthe background because your entropy pool is empty doing nothing | 11:29 |
| * awilkins installs `randomsound` | 11:31 | |
| awilkins | Ok, now it has a plentify supply of real entropy on /dev/random, it's still just sitting there in the background | 11:36 |
| foobarry | redhat reverted their spectre microcode update | 11:43 |
| foobarry | due to instability | 11:43 |
| foobarry | now saying get it yerself | 11:44 |
| awilkins | Oh frabgious joy | 11:44 |
| SuperMatt | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmFFvvW5yuM | 11:45 |
| SuperMatt | lava lamp entropy | 11:45 |
| awilkins | Heh, I like randomsound because you can install it on any hardware with a soundcard and get entropy for free (apart from not being able to do a webconf while it's generating) | 11:46 |
| awilkins | not sure it's working well though | 11:47 |
| MooDoo | windows users - https://www.grc.com/inspectre.htm | 11:47 |
| awilkins | My entropy pool seems to be depleting but gpg2 isn't producing that little line of crosses it usually does (well, as far as I can tell from rumours) | 11:47 |
| awilkins | Randomsound definitely working because if I cat /dev/random it keeps coming (and my entropy_avail stat drops correspondingly and fills up when I stop it) | 11:48 |
| diddledan | https://twitter.com/musalbas/status/953066939001311232 | 13:53 |
| brobostigon | afternoon boys and girls. | 16:44 |
| daftykins | \o | 16:44 |
| daftykins | sheesh long one today installing windows on an iMac for a client... no really | 16:44 |
| brobostigon | o/ | 16:47 |
| zmoylan-pi | and remember to put a dos icon on the windows desktop. emulate all the way down... :-) | 16:53 |
| daftykins | people used to joke about Windows Time, but have you seen Apple progress bars? "about 45 minutes remaining" means triple it :D | 16:57 |
| daftykins | i almost typed out a point by point of what went wrong, but i think you all should be spared that :) | 17:01 |
| daftykins | on the plus side, you can cycle off and get a lot done in the time it takes to do an OS upgrade on a mac ;D | 17:01 |
| SuperMatt | Macos is just as bad as windows these days | 17:01 |
| SuperMatt | they keep adding features, but not bug fixing | 17:01 |
| daftykins | oh far far worse, they recently had that root password bypass | 17:02 |
| SuperMatt | I've got one of the new macs, thanks to my new job, and it's got a cool finger print feature | 17:02 |
| SuperMatt | You'd think that they'd update all their built in password dialogues to use it | 17:02 |
| SuperMatt | but it's a mismash of some using it, and some not | 17:03 |
| daftykins | is that on the touch bar models? | 17:03 |
| SuperMatt | yup | 17:03 |
| daftykins | mmm even real fans seem to be groaning at how bad the OS quality control is going | 17:03 |
| daftykins | only care about their cash-cow phones and tablets, i imagine | 17:03 |
| SuperMatt | I found an issue that was just laugable, which hasn't been fixed for ages | 17:04 |
| SuperMatt | if you use three finger swipe to move between virtual desktops, you get a cool "over swipe" effect where the last desktop keeps scrolling and all you see is back | 17:04 |
| SuperMatt | I guess it's there to show you that you're on the last desktop and there are no more | 17:04 |
| SuperMatt | you can achieve the same thing with ctrl+left and ctrl+right | 17:05 |
| SuperMatt | however if you scroll to the right that way and reach the end, it shows the "over swipe" effect on the wrong side of the screen! | 17:05 |
| SuperMatt | I'm going to upgrade this machine to high seirra soon, I'll see if it suffers from the same problem, but I find it remarkable that it didn't fail quality checks | 17:12 |
| daftykins | :D | 17:24 |
| daftykins | sounds quirky, is that happening with El Capitan at the moment then? | 17:24 |
| daftykins | i can barely keep up with their release names now | 17:24 |
| SuperMatt | Sierra is mainline-1 | 17:25 |
| SuperMatt | High Sierra is the latest | 17:25 |
| SuperMatt | I'm on Sierra | 17:25 |
| daftykins | ah yes El Cap must be 10.11 | 17:25 |
| SuperMatt | I mean, who needsnames that are easy to track? | 17:25 |
| SuperMatt | Sounds about right | 17:25 |
| daftykins | my main clients ditched their old 2010 models at long last, they didn't really know their way around them | 17:26 |
| SuperMatt | If only there was an operating system that named and numbered their releases in such a way that they're easy to track | 17:26 |
| SuperMatt | Maybe move through the alphabet for the codename, and have the year and month as the version number | 17:26 |
| SuperMatt | it'll never catch on | 17:26 |
| daftykins | and users remembered to put 0's in the right place when referring to them ;D | 17:27 |
| SuperMatt | One of my gripes is people saying "I've just installed Ubuntu 17" | 17:27 |
| daftykins | :S agreed | 17:27 |
| SuperMatt | But then, why would most people think minor version numbers matter? | 17:27 |
| daftykins | especially for the non-LTS angle in that case | 17:27 |
| daftykins | yeah i think it was a fair while before i even realised it was year.month | 17:28 |
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| directhex | daftykins: the coffee machine in this microsoft office seems to be suffering fro microsoft time. every day, the progress bar on coffee goes a bit less far before it finishes. right now it fills to about 20% before finishing | 20:38 |
| directhex | it doesn't make less coffee, it's just the bar declares finished at 20% | 20:38 |
| directhex | gets worse daily | 20:38 |
| daftykins | :D | 20:39 |
| daftykins | what's the brand? | 20:39 |
| zmoylan-pi | this is a tea channel!! :-) | 20:39 |
| daftykins | never :O | 20:39 |
| directhex | daftykins: http://www.vkitech.com/products2.html | 20:40 |
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