[09:01] howdy all [09:04] morning boys and girls. [09:04] howdy brobostigon [09:05] hi MooDoo [10:03] morning reprobates [10:03] howdy SuperMatt [10:04] * SuperMatt tips hat [10:05] SuperMatt: new job ok [10:05] ? [10:05] yeah, it's going well [10:05] lots of learning to do [10:05] because there's a lot of insanely clever stuff going on here [10:07] awesome [10:28] ola [11:29] Gnnnnneh, Seahorse really needs fixing to tell you that it's generating a key [11:29] It just drops out at the end of the dialog and doesn't tell you anything... so gpg2 is sat inthe background because your entropy pool is empty doing nothing [11:31] * awilkins installs `randomsound` [11:36] Ok, now it has a plentify supply of real entropy on /dev/random, it's still just sitting there in the background [11:43] redhat reverted their spectre microcode update [11:43] due to instability [11:44] now saying get it yerself [11:44] Oh frabgious joy [11:45] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmFFvvW5yuM [11:45] lava lamp entropy [11:46] Heh, I like randomsound because you can install it on any hardware with a soundcard and get entropy for free (apart from not being able to do a webconf while it's generating) [11:47] not sure it's working well though [11:47] windows users - https://www.grc.com/inspectre.htm [11:47] My entropy pool seems to be depleting but gpg2 isn't producing that little line of crosses it usually does (well, as far as I can tell from rumours) [11:48] Randomsound definitely working because if I cat /dev/random it keeps coming (and my entropy_avail stat drops correspondingly and fills up when I stop it) [13:53] https://twitter.com/musalbas/status/953066939001311232 [16:44] afternoon boys and girls. [16:44] \o [16:44] sheesh long one today installing windows on an iMac for a client... no really [16:47] o/ [16:53] and remember to put a dos icon on the windows desktop. emulate all the way down... :-) [16:57] people used to joke about Windows Time, but have you seen Apple progress bars? "about 45 minutes remaining" means triple it :D [17:01] i almost typed out a point by point of what went wrong, but i think you all should be spared that :) [17:01] on the plus side, you can cycle off and get a lot done in the time it takes to do an OS upgrade on a mac ;D [17:01] Macos is just as bad as windows these days [17:01] they keep adding features, but not bug fixing [17:02] oh far far worse, they recently had that root password bypass [17:02] I've got one of the new macs, thanks to my new job, and it's got a cool finger print feature [17:02] You'd think that they'd update all their built in password dialogues to use it [17:03] but it's a mismash of some using it, and some not [17:03] is that on the touch bar models? [17:03] yup [17:03] mmm even real fans seem to be groaning at how bad the OS quality control is going [17:03] only care about their cash-cow phones and tablets, i imagine [17:04] I found an issue that was just laugable, which hasn't been fixed for ages [17:04] if you use three finger swipe to move between virtual desktops, you get a cool "over swipe" effect where the last desktop keeps scrolling and all you see is back [17:04] I guess it's there to show you that you're on the last desktop and there are no more [17:05] you can achieve the same thing with ctrl+left and ctrl+right [17:05] however if you scroll to the right that way and reach the end, it shows the "over swipe" effect on the wrong side of the screen! [17:12] I'm going to upgrade this machine to high seirra soon, I'll see if it suffers from the same problem, but I find it remarkable that it didn't fail quality checks [17:24] :D [17:24] sounds quirky, is that happening with El Capitan at the moment then? [17:24] i can barely keep up with their release names now [17:25] Sierra is mainline-1 [17:25] High Sierra is the latest [17:25] I'm on Sierra [17:25] ah yes El Cap must be 10.11 [17:25] I mean, who needsnames that are easy to track? [17:25] Sounds about right [17:26] my main clients ditched their old 2010 models at long last, they didn't really know their way around them [17:26] If only there was an operating system that named and numbered their releases in such a way that they're easy to track [17:26] Maybe move through the alphabet for the codename, and have the year and month as the version number [17:26] it'll never catch on [17:27] and users remembered to put 0's in the right place when referring to them ;D [17:27] One of my gripes is people saying "I've just installed Ubuntu 17" [17:27] :S agreed [17:27] But then, why would most people think minor version numbers matter? [17:27] especially for the non-LTS angle in that case [17:28] yeah i think it was a fair while before i even realised it was year.month === grahamldlw is now known as graham === graham is now known as Guest77967 === Bot1234 is now known as David1234 [20:38] daftykins: the coffee machine in this microsoft office seems to be suffering fro microsoft time. every day, the progress bar on coffee goes a bit less far before it finishes. right now it fills to about 20% before finishing [20:38] it doesn't make less coffee, it's just the bar declares finished at 20% [20:38] gets worse daily [20:39] :D [20:39] what's the brand? [20:39] this is a tea channel!! :-) [20:39] never :O [20:40] daftykins: http://www.vkitech.com/products2.html