[02:06] <mparillo> With Alpha 2 on 2018-02-01 (https://wiki.kubuntu.org/BionicBeaver/ReleaseSchedule), is there likely to be an Alpha 1 at all?
[02:11] <valorie> I've not heard
[02:11] <valorie> I guess this is a good time to ask
[02:11] <valorie> again
[02:13] <valorie> no alpha 1
[02:14] <valorie> which is good because no freeze
[02:14] <valorie> bad because less testing
[02:28] <mparillo> Thanks, and since Ubuntu manages to have a Beta without an Alpha, it should not be too strange to have an Alpha 2 without an Alpha 1.
[02:32] <valorie> I mean, I think there are a few people doing tests of the daily images
[02:32] <valorie> which is very helpful
[03:18] <valorie> welcome @nauticalnexus
 Thanks :D
[03:19] <valorie> pretty silent this time o day
 I'd imagine haha
[03:22] <valorie> of course backlog is always available via the logs
[03:22] <valorie> !logs
 Yup!
 I um.. I wanna help
[05:18] <valorie> hey @nauticalnexus -- our todos and stuff are in the topic
[05:19] <valorie> not sure you can see that in Telegram
 cannot
[05:19] <valorie> lemme copy
 can't you
 !topic
[05:19] <valorie> First KCI nightly running in a week or two, *things could very well break*. | Bionic Beaver 18.04 LTS | Support in #kubuntu | Development Home Page : https://kubuntu.org/1 | Task Board : https://kubuntu.org/2 | Packaging Status : https://kubuntu.org/3 | QA links: https://kubuntu.org/4 | Packaging Docs: https://kubuntu.org/5 | Calendar https://kubuntu.org/6"
 packaging :3
[05:20] <valorie> well, I do it via IRC which I think only I can see
[05:20] <valorie> unless I paste it, so that's what I did
[05:20] <valorie> so for phabricator you will need a KDE identity to login
[05:20] <valorie> maybe not to look at it though
 I think I have one of those
[05:21] <valorie> identity.kde.org
[05:21] <valorie> then it should Just Work
 aaaaaaaaa I don't remember my sign in
[05:22] <valorie> identity.kde.org might help
 google passwords helped ;P
 I thought it'd be like.. nauticalnexus.. but it isn't
[05:23] <valorie> should be some variant of your Real Name
 Yeah
[05:23] <valorie> because you use it to do commits
[05:23] <valorie> for copyright assignments etc
 am there
[05:25] <valorie> so there is loads to see in phab
 indeed
[05:25] <valorie> but dunno about specific packaging stuff
[05:25] <valorie> I do the release manager stuff there
[05:25] <valorie> and a few of the council plans
 What is this channel on irc?
 #kubuntu-devel?
[05:27] <valorie> yes
[05:28] <nauticalnexus> temp for now. Bouncer is a joke.
[05:29] <nauticalnexus> Anyway.. Packaging is definitely my thing when it comes to .deb
[05:30] <valorie> excellent
[05:30] <valorie> I imagine that there is some new stuff which isn't packaged yet
[05:30] <nauticalnexus> As long as I don't have to write anything.
[05:30] <nauticalnexus> God.. that made me nervous..
[05:31] <valorie> well, you have to write good descriptions within the control files I believe
[05:31] <valorie> but those are generally a few words
[05:31] <nauticalnexus> That's good.
[05:31] <nauticalnexus> I can work with that.
[05:32] <valorie> imo comments are always important
[05:32] <nauticalnexus> Yeah.
[05:32] <valorie> so, I know that we have some packaging docs, because I've worked on them
[05:33] <valorie> those are in phab I believe
[05:33] <nauticalnexus> I've packaged before.
[05:33] <nauticalnexus> But.. stuff that was already in the repos. Like more up to date versions
[05:33] <valorie> if you can't find those, they will be in the kde wiki
[05:33] <valorie> right
[05:33] <nauticalnexus> sorry, talking about *buntu in general.
[05:33] <valorie> I've heard that we do things differently than Ubuntu
[05:33] <nauticalnexus> Packaging .deb packages is just really easy to me haha
[05:34] <valorie> but nobody has ever explained to me HOW we are different
[05:34] <valorie> if you look at those docs you might be able to explain to me
[05:34] <valorie> :-)
[05:34] <nauticalnexus> I mean I figure it's no different than Debian
 @valorie, Just a little bit different to Ubuntu and Debian, there's similarities and differences 😉
[05:35] <valorie> @tsimonq2 yes, but WHAT is different?
[05:35] <nauticalnexus> lol
[05:36] <nauticalnexus> I won't be sleeping for a while so if anyone needs anything packaged I'm here
 @valorie, We use a Git-based workflow heavily while Ubuntu support is coming for all packages and it's the maintainer's choice for Debian.
[05:36] <nauticalnexus> just give me instructions and I'll do it.
 The branches have different names too
[05:37] <nauticalnexus> I'm much better with a command line than I am with people :P
[05:39] <valorie> tsimonq2: what the heck are you in IRC for
[05:40] <valorie> so late
 @valorie, Still... Working... >_<
[05:41] <valorie> get off IRC and concentrate!
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[13:53] <dantti> hi, when is the dead line to get new packages into 18.04?
 feature freeze is 1st march
[14:23] <dantti> thanks
[14:32] <acheronuk> dantti: here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FeatureFreeze
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[16:57] <tsimonq2> winb 10
[16:57] <tsimonq2> grr
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 I-I like win10..
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[20:56] <valorie> hi folks, it has come to my attention that all of the i386 bionic isos tested so far -- including Kubuntu - are non-booting
[20:56] <valorie> if you are interested in helping to test, please join #ubuntu+1
[20:58] <mamarley> I thought the 32-bit ISOs were being dropped?
[20:59] <valorie> Ubuntu will not ship them, but all or most of the flavors still are
[20:59] <mamarley> Ah, OK.
[21:00] <acheronuk> drop them
[21:00]  * acheronuk hides
[21:00] <valorie> I've threatened to stop releasing them, but got a lot of pushback
[21:00] <valorie> but not much help testing
[21:00] <acheronuk> that is the problem
[21:00] <nauticalnexus> acheronuk: I still use 32-bit systems.
[21:00] <nauticalnexus> You cannot just leave us in the dark.
[21:01] <valorie> well, we need some help pinning down the problem
[21:01] <nauticalnexus> Unfortunately my 32-bit system is a potato
[21:02] <acheronuk> well the old laptop I have which I thought was just 32 bit, seems to actually have 64bit flags in the CPU info, so that's no good to test
[21:02] <valorie> perhaps you could test xubuntu or lubuntu?
[21:02] <valorie> nauticalnexus: ^^^
[21:02] <valorie> problem is that unless it's a VM, how does one get the boot logs
[21:02] <nauticalnexus> valorie: it's so tiny and hard to use..
[21:03] <valorie> :(
[21:03] <nauticalnexus> like 7" screen
[21:03] <nauticalnexus> it's a computer for ants ;P
[21:05] <valorie> :-)
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[23:46] <valorie> testing the new plasma in the beta ppa on my travel lappy
[23:47] <valorie> if all goes well I might try the wayland sessions too