[00:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted grub2 [amd64] (bionic-proposed) [2.02-2ubuntu3]
[00:14] <xnox> krytarik, only some media is respun, not all. there is no new hwe stack, which is supported, there will not be press release about it.
[00:14] <xnox> krytarik, we have to pull all of -updates, as we do not have a selective way to build images from.
[00:23] <tsimonq2> xnox: Right, I just wanted confirmation that "it's technically not a point release in the same way LTS point releases work so that doesn't work like that"
[00:24] <tsimonq2> xnox: Thanks.
[02:12] <valorie> hi folks, is there likely to be an alpha 1?
[02:12] <valorie> or are we just going to jump to alpha 2
[02:12] <tsimonq2> valorie: No Alpha 1
[02:12] <tsimonq2> Just Alpha 2
[02:13] <valorie> thanks tsimonq2
[02:13] <tsimonq2> np
[05:15] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: pocl [amd64] (bionic-proposed/universe) [1.0-2] (no packageset)
[05:16] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: pocl [i386] (bionic-proposed/universe) [1.0-2] (no packageset)
[09:30] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: grub2 (bionic-proposed/main) [2.02-2ubuntu3 => 2.02-2ubuntu3] (core)
[09:46] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted grub2 [arm64] (bionic-proposed) [2.02-2ubuntu3]
[11:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: gitlint [amd64] (bionic-proposed/none) [0.9.0-1] (no packageset)
[14:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted libmbim [source] (xenial-proposed) [1.14.0-1ubuntu0.16.04.1]
[14:36] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted libqmi [source] (xenial-proposed) [1.16.2-1ubuntu0.16.04.1]
[14:41] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libqmi [i386] (xenial-proposed/main) [1.16.2-1ubuntu0.16.04.1] (kubuntu, ubuntu-desktop)
[14:44] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: libqmi [amd64] (xenial-proposed/main) [1.16.2-1ubuntu0.16.04.1] (kubuntu, ubuntu-desktop)
[15:01] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: accepted modemmanager [source] (xenial-proposed) [1.6.4-1ubuntu0.16.04.1]
[16:57] <tsimonq2> infinity, slangasek: You might want to be aware of bug 1744357, it's a showstopper bug for multiple flavors building in Bionic.
[16:58] <flocculant> well - it's not much fun for 32 bit, but 64 bit is fine ;)
[16:58] <tsimonq2> bahh
[16:58] <flocculant> :)
[16:59] <xnox> kill i386 install isos with fire
[16:59] <xnox> =)
[16:59] <flocculant> just grabbing budgie and mate
[16:59] <flocculant> xnox: :)
[16:59] <tsimonq2> xnox: noo ;)
[16:59] <tsimonq2> flocculant: :)
[16:59] <flocculant> I suspect I'm wasting time grabbing them - but just to be sure
[16:59] <tsimonq2> Ok
[17:06] <jbicha> considering that Meltdown isn't fixed on 32-bit architectures, flavors should strongly consider whether they really need to provide 32-bit iso's
[17:06] <cjwatson> There are at least fixes in progress now
[17:07] <jbicha> ok, well consider it anyway ;)
[17:08] <flocculant> jbicha: we have
[17:08] <flocculant> I suspect the others have too ;)
[17:08] <flocculant> not suspect in Lubuntu's case ...
[17:08] <jbicha> it's surprising to me that none of the Community flavors have dropped 32-bit yet
[17:11] <flocculant> well 9 months ago - Ubuntu Gnome did 32 bit - of course no-one knows what they'd be doing now if they were still a community flavour :)
[17:12] <jbicha> Ubuntu GNOME was just about to announce that we were discontinuing the 32-bit flavor, but that was interrupted by a bigger announcement
[17:12] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: gnome-software (xenial-proposed/main) [3.20.5-0ubuntu0.16.04.7 => 3.20.5-0ubuntu0.16.04.8] (ubuntu-desktop)
[17:13] <flocculant> ha ha :)
[17:14] <flocculant> anyway - all an aside - currently flavours do 32 bit
[17:14] <flocculant> or want to :)
[17:17] <tsimonq2> jbicha: I don't think that's a good argument for dropping i386... why do we have any other architecture besides amd64 in the archive? Those could be susceptible to Spectre/Meltdown :P
[17:17] <tsimonq2> I also know that Lubuntu will likely continue to have images until the rug is pulled out from under us.
[17:17] <tsimonq2> s/images/i386 images/
[17:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: kmscube [amd64] (bionic-proposed/universe) [0.0.0~git20170508-1] (no packageset)
[17:17] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: x264 [amd64] (bionic-proposed/universe) [2:0.152.2854+gite9a5903-2] (kubuntu)
[17:18] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: ignition-math4 [amd64] (bionic-proposed/universe) [4.0.0+dfsg1-1] (no packageset)
[17:19] <kenvandine> sil2100, ^^ I uploaded gnome-software SRU with a (hopefully) improved changelog
[17:19] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: kmscube [i386] (bionic-proposed/universe) [0.0.0~git20170508-1] (no packageset)
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[17:20] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: x264 [i386] (bionic-proposed/universe) [2:0.152.2854+gite9a5903-2] (kubuntu)
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[17:26] <flocculant> re that 32 bit boot bug - put it to syslinux becase the tracker 'notes' point to reporting against that - not sure if that's the case though
[17:30] <flocculant> done everyone who has 32 bit except Studio and Kylin
[17:31] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: lamarc [amd64] (bionic-proposed/universe) [2.1.10.1+dfsg-1] (no packageset)
[19:10] -queuebot:#ubuntu-release- New binary: texlive-extra [amd64] (bionic-proposed/universe) [2017.20180110-1] (ubuntu-desktop)
[19:52] <infinity> flocculant: It's probably not syslinux, given that hasn't changed since 2017-11-01 (unless no one's booted an i386 ISO since November, which seems unlikely).
[19:52] <infinity> Kernel is honestly most likely with the bazillions of lines of patches flowing for all this Specdown madness.
[19:52] <infinity> But we'll see.
[19:53] <infinity> Assuming it's jumpging to the kernel at all.
[20:04] <flocculant> infinity: ack that
[20:05] <flocculant> I just did what tracker said :D
[20:05]  * infinity nods.
[20:05] <flocculant> all I can actually tell is if I hit a key at the kbd thingy - to get the first menu, about 3 secs later I'm rebooting, so I'm guessing it's not getting all that far :)
[20:06] <flocculant> though ofc - a whole bunch is likely to have happened in that time ...
[20:07] <flocculant> not really much I can do now - I guess I could lose quiet splash - and see if I see more
[20:07] <flocculant> if it helps - I can easily enough - got 32 bit iso in grub
[20:08]  * infinity wonders if his interwebs are drunk, as he watches his download bounce wildly between 3MB/s and 15MB/s.
[20:09] <flocculant> :)
[20:10] <flocculant> I get that depending on whether the idjit 3 doors up is grabbing a series of something ...
[20:13] <infinity> So, a kubuntu i386 image from 2018-01-19 boots here in qemu. :/
[20:13] <infinity> If this requires real hardware to reproduce, that'll be annoying.
[20:18] <flocculant> infinity: xubuntu boots with kvm -m 2048 -cdrom /mnt/Data/iso/18.04_Other/Kubuntu/bionic-desktop-i386.iso
[20:18] <flocculant> on hardware using either a usb or booting iso from grub - just reboots
[20:19] <infinity> Fun.
[20:19] <flocculant> 64 bit is fine - didn't say as much - assumed it would be assumed
[20:19] <flocculant> yea
[20:21] <flocculant> done as much variables as I've got available to me - without doing the usb in something not bionic - only have that and 16.04.x on a machine
[20:23] <infinity> flocculant: If you're just using dd(1) to write the images, the host machine shouldn't matter.  As much fun as it is to suspect a horrible bug in dd. :P
[20:24] <flocculant> infinity: I did check a 17.10.1 with dd - worked as expected (though only had Xubuntu)
[20:25] <flocculant> really couldn't face another 10Gb of iso downloading for other flavours :p