| cmaloney | Good morning | 15:35 |
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| greg-g | Is it really Friday? | 15:50 |
| cmaloney | I think so. | 15:51 |
| jrwren | GETTING DOWN ON FRIDAY! | 15:51 |
| jrwren | Good morning. | 15:51 |
| cmaloney | I love looking at code that you've just written (or testing) and realizing that it's one giant booger that needs refactoring | 15:55 |
| cmaloney | s/or/for/ | 15:55 |
| jrwren | i like it better when I can just delete it all. | 15:59 |
| cmaloney | heh | 16:01 |
| cmaloney | problem is 'm writing backward compatible code so most everything is driven by one method | 16:01 |
| cmaloney | so the temptation is to make it work with that method | 16:02 |
| cmaloney | and then testing with that method becomes the booger | 16:02 |
| jrwren | rick_h: there is this really great product, way better than nest hello. its called vivint. :) | 18:51 |
| * cmaloney feels a sales pitch | 18:52 | |
| jrwren | nah, just pride. | 18:52 |
| rick_h | jrwren: oh yeah? | 18:52 |
| jrwren | I get that it isn't for everyone. | 18:52 |
| cmaloney | jrwren: Just messing. It's good to be excited about what you're workingon | 18:52 |
| cmaloney | especially if you can make it better | 18:52 |
| rick_h | I'll look. I did a lot of research when I got the next outdoor cam but the hello was just because ecosystem at this point. | 18:53 |
| jrwren | well, I'm assuming you don't want a whole home security system w/ panel like ADP or Guardian. Given that is all vivint has right now, I doubt you even compared vivint outdoor cams when you did that. Like I said: not for everyone. :) | 18:56 |
| jrwren | Plus, I know you are a tinkerer, and vivint is the exact opposite of that. | 18:57 |
| rick_h | Don't recall if vivint was in any of the comparisons I went through. It was a lot of nest and ... /me looks | 18:57 |
| rick_h | Arlo seemed the other big one | 18:58 |
| jrwren | yup, nest and arlo are the current big players. | 18:58 |
| jrwren | and ring. | 18:58 |
| rick_h | Well I'm not looking to tinker with this stuff. I don't want to setup a server for the stuff myself | 18:58 |
| rick_h | It's a big reason I went nest. Know it'll work from the phones and pay my monthly fee | 18:59 |
| jrwren | oh, well in that case, you honestly may want to consider a vivint system. | 19:00 |
| jrwren | think nest, but integrated with a home security panel that does things like arm/disarm when it detects your phone GPS location - solving the biggest problem with home security systems, people stop arming them. | 19:02 |
| cmaloney | Seems like that could be strange. | 19:04 |
| cmaloney | Sometimes my phone thinks its in another city or something | 19:04 |
| jrwren | ha! that would be terrible. the system arms while you are at home and then triggers the alarm and calls the police :) | 19:05 |
| cmaloney | Yeah, or worse: if it detects your phone on the wifi but then your phone hiccups while in a dead zone | 19:06 |
| cmaloney | or your phone thinks it's in Southfield because that's where AT&T is | 19:06 |
| jrwren | yeah, I don't have that feature enabled because my system is kind of in dev mode, but maybe I should look into it so I could give you educated responses to your concerns :) | 19:07 |
| jrwren | I know some customers love it. | 19:07 |
| cmaloney | Oh I'd love it too | 19:08 |
| cmaloney | maybe something with bluetooth | 19:08 |
| cmaloney | depending on the home layout | 19:08 |
| * cmaloney doesn't trust GPS, even though every single photograph I take at home practically shows our address in the lat / long | 19:08 | |
| cmaloney | I hate heisenbugs where something bitched about a unicode issue and now I can't repeat it with the debugger. | 19:09 |
| jrwren | ya know what... on second thought... rick_h DO NOT GET A VIVINT SYSTEM.... I don't want you complaining to me when things aren't quite right. :) | 19:10 |
| cmaloney | Oh please get one now | 19:21 |
| rick_h | LoL | 19:22 |
| jrwren | "i don't work on that part" :) | 19:25 |
| jrwren | man... resurecting an ancient 16.10 installation is kind of a pain :) | 20:25 |
| cmaloney | Oh my | 20:25 |
| cmaloney | Any particular reason to go back that far? | 20:26 |
| cmaloney | since it's no longer supported? | 20:26 |
| jrwren | none other than a broken laptop has been sitting on a shelf for a year and I finally got aorund to repurposing it. | 20:31 |
| jrwren | The display is literally cracked, but I want to plug it into a TV. | 20:31 |
| jrwren | install from scratch is a challenge because of that broken display, so it is easier to upgrade the existing installation. | 20:32 |
| cmaloney | Ah | 20:43 |
| cmaloney | Good luck | 20:43 |
| * cmaloney wondered if he should pull down the Asus Eee and install Freedos on it | 20:43 | |
| jrwren | seemed to work ok, just a bit of fun. | 20:43 |
| cmaloney | since that's about all that will run on it | 20:44 |
| jrwren | find an ancient distro of the day? | 20:54 |
| cmaloney | heh | 21:17 |
| greg-g | I need to reinstall on my eeepc for a workout video machine for Carrie (her request!). Got a monitor for the garage to plug it into | 22:48 |
| jrwren | mission accomplished, it even upgraded to wayland and works great with a TV. | 23:23 |
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