[00:26] <swift110> hey
[00:33] <Grorco__> hi
[02:51] <Tombie75> hello
[02:51] <Tombie75> how u r
[02:51] <Tombie75> came from bar
[02:51] <Tombie75> karaoke and stuff
[02:52] <Tombie75> not managed to go to airport
[02:52] <Tombie75> too long waiting
[02:53] <Tombie75> helolo siva_machina
[02:54] <siva_machina> hello
[02:54] <Tombie75> just some one to speak :)
[02:54] <Tombie75> i like to united
[02:55] <Tombie75> with people
[02:55] <siva_machina> cool
[02:55] <Tombie75> =D
[02:55] <Tombie75> just speak what in mind
[02:55] <Tombie75> i came from bar, karaoke and stuff
[02:56] <Tombie75> i am bad people
[02:56] <Tombie75> because of bar and alcohol
[02:57] <siva_machina> I take it that is why your so talkative right now.
[02:57] <Tombie75> not so much
[02:57] <Tombie75> i am talkative without alcohol also
[02:57] <Tombie75> i am adhd
[02:58] <Tombie75> i like to collaborate and learn
[02:58] <Tombie75> i am not managed it good
[02:58] <Tombie75> i reallly want to teach people :)
[02:58] <Tombie75> if some i have learned of linux and life
[02:59] <Tombie75> linux and life - that is the point
[02:59] <siva_machina> out of curiosity. Where are you from? if you don't mind me asking.
[02:59] <Tombie75> Finland
[02:59] <Tombie75> neihgbour of sweden and russia
[03:00] <Tombie75> we are big country, with few people
[03:00] <Tombie75> we need to collaborate :D
[03:00] <siva_machina> ah, I guess that explains the sentence structure.
[03:00] <Tombie75> okay funny
[03:00] <Tombie75> i am no so good in sentencde
[03:01] <Tombie75> sentence
[03:01] <Tombie75> maybe is just the flow we write in finland
[03:01] <Tombie75> i am not sure
[03:02] <Tombie75> is there any differences in sentence structures
[03:02] <Tombie75> i am just drunk :D
[03:02] <siva_machina> There useally is.
[03:02] <Tombie75> and not so high learnnd
[03:03] <Tombie75> so you like the language structures :D
[03:03] <Tombie75> it is interesting
[03:03] <siva_machina> I assume you noticed this while trying to read or listen to  stuff in Enligh
[03:03] <Tombie75> i have no worry of about it
[03:03] <Tombie75> enlightement :D
[03:03] <Tombie75> haha !!!
[03:03] <siva_machina> eureka?
[03:04] <Tombie75> just joke
[03:04] <Tombie75> of your mistake
[03:04] <Tombie75> :D
[03:04] <Tombie75> i am not sorry ;)
[03:05] <Tombie75> you know
[03:05] <Tombie75> it is business of smartasss
[03:05] <Tombie75> =D
[03:05] <Tombie75> you need to
[03:06] <Tombie75> get smore smartass
[03:06] <Tombie75> more
[03:06] <Tombie75> it is little stupid
[03:06] <Tombie75> but is a game
[03:06] <siva_machina> .
[03:07] <Tombie75> okay, you dont like
[03:07] <Tombie75> sorry
[03:07]  * siva_machina speaks Smartass, pun, and sass
[03:07] <Tombie75> what ?
[03:07] <Tombie75> what is pun and sass ?
[03:08] <Tombie75> i have bad knowledge of english
[03:08] <siva_machina> pun - a joke exploiting the different possible meanings of a word or the fact that there are words that sound alike but have different meanings.
[03:09] <Tombie75> too difficult to me to understand :D
[03:09] <Tombie75> i did not understand :D
[03:09] <Tombie75> sorry
[03:09] <siva_machina> for example of a pun "eating frogs legs are ribbiting"
[03:09] <Tombie75> too philosophy
[03:10] <Tombie75> i am not good at it
[03:10] <siva_machina> a pun is a type of humor based on wordplay
[03:10] <Tombie75> do you play instrument ?
[03:10] <Tombie75> word play okay
[03:11] <Tombie75> i know of that
[03:11] <Tombie75> some
[03:11] <Tombie75> thing :D
[03:11] <Tombie75> what means ribbbiting ?
[03:11] <Tombie75> i know frog
[03:12] <Tombie75> green bastard
[03:12] <Tombie75> :D
[03:12] <Tombie75> green and slime alien
[03:12] <Tombie75> slimy
[03:12] <siva_machina> frogs ribbit, it was a play on the word riveting
[03:14] <Tombie75> damm you play hard to me :D
[03:14] <siva_machina> That is what she said.
[03:18] <Tombie75> she ?
[03:18] <Tombie75> who se ?
[03:18] <Tombie75> who she ?
[03:19] <siva_machina> sorry, that was a crappy American joke
[03:19] <Tombie75> hah
[03:19] <Tombie75> yes it was ;)
[03:19] <Tombie75> why not him
[03:19] <Tombie75> murder she wrote
[03:19] <Tombie75> :D
[03:21] <siva_machina> it useally more perverted.
[03:21] <Tombie75> i have long day today
[03:21] <Tombie75> i was on bar at 10 am
[03:21] <Tombie75> and now after 3 am
[03:22] <siva_machina> it is 22:22 here
[03:22] <Tombie75> nice
[03:22] <Tombie75> here is 5.22
[03:22] <Tombie75> so you use 24 hours
[03:22] <Tombie75> nice work
[03:23] <Tombie75> am and pm is something i dont understand :D
[03:23] <siva_machina> 24 hour clock is more logical.
[03:23] <Tombie75> it has logic but is strange
[03:23] <Tombie75> you are right
[03:23] <Tombie75> yes yes
[03:24] <Tombie75> =)
[03:24] <Tombie75> right on time
[03:24] <Tombie75> =)
[03:24] <Tombie75> you yankees learn
[03:24] <Tombie75> ;)
[03:24] <siva_machina> am/pm "woah the clock hit. We best start counting from 1 again."
[03:25] <Tombie75> it is strange
[03:25] <Tombie75> logic
[03:25] <Tombie75> funny logic
[03:25] <Tombie75> wow time 24
[03:25] <Tombie75> what we now do :D
[03:26] <Tombie75> it is same difficulties
[03:26] <Tombie75> 24 = 0
[03:26] <Tombie75> 0.00
[03:26] <Tombie75> some difficulties at least
[03:27] <Tombie75> why you came here :D
[03:27] <Tombie75> installed ubuntu mate ?
[03:28] <siva_machina> I have had the same install for nearly a year.
[03:28] <Tombie75> i am not sure do like this
[03:28] <Tombie75> do i
[03:28] <Tombie75> linux mint has 4 square points
[03:28] <Tombie75> on screen
[03:28] <Tombie75> i miss that
[03:29] <Tombie75> now i only can split screen
[03:29] <Tombie75> but not make it four squares
[03:29] <Tombie75> i really liked that on cinnamon
[03:30] <siva_machina> to be honest I installed i3wm in my Ubuntu-Mate install. Now I am using that
[03:30] <Tombie75> what is i3
[03:30] <Tombie75> wm ?
[03:30] <siva_machina> wm means window manager
[03:30] <Tombie75> ok
[03:30] <Tombie75> i free :D
[03:30] <siva_machina> do you know what that is?
[03:30] <Tombie75> me free window manager
[03:31] <Tombie75> no
[03:31] <Tombie75> have not heard
[03:33] <siva_machina> to put as simple as possible. it manages the windows that pop on your screen. including but not limited to the ui around them.
[03:33] <Tombie75> yes
[03:33] <siva_machina> The one Mate is using is called Marco.
[03:33] <Tombie75> i know what is window manager
[03:34] <Tombie75> it just your desktop and screen
[03:35] <siva_machina> not completely..
[03:36] <Tombie75> you play games with me
[03:36] <Tombie75> :D
[03:38] <siva_machina> The wm isn't you're entire desktop on your screen
[03:38] <siva_machina> in most cases that was a de or desktop environment is.
[03:40] <Tombie75> okay
[03:40] <siva_machina> Mate is one DE
[03:40] <Tombie75> yess
[03:40] <Tombie75> cinnamon also
[03:40] <Tombie75> with windows xp theme ;)
[03:41] <Tombie75> i think i need to go to sleep
[03:41] <Tombie75> me tired
[03:41] <Tombie75> =(
[03:41] <siva_machina> it is almost 06.00 there
[03:42] <Tombie75> yes
[03:42] <Tombie75> 5.42
[03:42] <Tombie75> it is time for rooster sing
[03:43] <siva_machina> that cock is a dick... making me wake up early and stuff
[03:43] <Tombie75> too bad for you
[03:43] <Tombie75> =)
[03:44] <Tombie75> you live in nature
[03:44] <Tombie75> i have no rooster here
[03:44] <Tombie75> i just say what i know
[03:45] <Tombie75> think to know
[03:45] <Tombie75> ;)
[03:45] <Tombie75> i have headache
[03:45] <Tombie75> too much alcohol
[03:46] <Tombie75> always
[03:46] <Tombie75> cannot stop for two
[03:46] <siva_machina> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/190410818582609920/397126770635046912/20171231_153947_HDR.jpg
[03:46] <Tombie75> twelve
[03:46] <siva_machina> I took that near where I work...
[03:47] <Tombie75> that was funny
[03:47] <siva_machina> I think you may have a problem then.
[03:47] <Tombie75> living rooster
[03:47] <Tombie75> why
[03:48] <Tombie75> problem cause you have roosters in your work place :
[03:48] <Tombie75> :D
[03:48] <siva_machina> if you can't control how much you drink. How do you not have one?
[03:48] <Tombie75> yess you right
[03:49] <Tombie75> i am alcoholist
[03:49] <Tombie75> not good thing
[03:50] <Tombie75> first time i got alcohol, i did get love to it
[03:50] <Tombie75> it is deep bound
[03:51] <Tombie75> it is just thing to need get
[03:53] <Tombie75> you know pale moon
[03:53] <Tombie75> browser
[03:53] <siva_machina> yes I do
[03:53] <Tombie75> i think i go to sleep now
[03:53] <Tombie75>  it is good browser
[03:54] <Tombie75> better than mozilla
[03:54] <Tombie75> firefox
[03:54] <siva_machina> go to sleep!
[03:54] <Tombie75> firefox cannot play facebook games :D
[03:54] <siva_machina> preferably before the sun comes up.
[03:54] <Tombie75> i need to get sleep
[03:54] <Tombie75> bye bye
[03:55] <siva_machina> you have to enable to flash per website
[03:55] <Tombie75> i go now
[03:55] <Tombie75> dont get bored here
[03:55] <Tombie75> ;)
[14:00] <mate|piterke> Witam  mam problem z przegladarka opera jest zainstalowana ale nie mam zadnego odnosnika by ja uruchomic
[14:01] <diogenes_> nie masz czego?
[14:02] <mate|piterke> Witam nigdyie nie pojawia sie ikona opery a system mam od 3 dni
[14:03] <mate|piterke> juz mam dosyc windy wkurzala mnie  caly czas
[14:03] <diogenes_> a po angielsku umiesz pisac?
[14:03] <mate|piterke> no niebardzo jestem w niemczech
[14:04] <diogenes_> dobrze otworz terminal
[14:04] <mate|piterke> ok juz otworzylem
[14:04] <diogenes_> wpisz, opera i enter
[14:06] <mate|piterke> o dziwo jest juz opera a czy bede musial tak robic caly czas
[14:06] <diogenes_> nie
[14:06] <diogenes_> kiedy zainstalowales ja?
[14:06] <mate|piterke> jakies 30 min temu
[14:07] <diogenes_> dobrze teraz resetuj komputer i przychodz tutaj
[14:07] <mate|piterke> ok juz to robie
[14:12] <mate|piterke> Jestem juz mam opere i w panelu dzieki za okazana pomoc
[14:12] <diogenes_> dobrze, prosze
[14:12] <mate|piterke> a czy jest cos co jesze by wypadalo zrobic
[14:13] <diogenes_> zaktualizowac system
[14:14] <mate|piterke> mam jesze jedno pytanko mam drukarke bradera mfc 235 drukarka chodzi ale skaner nie
[14:14] <mate|piterke> system juz jest zauktalizowany
[14:14] <diogenes_> musisz poszukac na ich stronce sterownik dla skanera
[14:15] <mate|piterke> juz to zrobilem ale mimo top nie dziala
[14:16] <diogenes_> czyli zrobiles co?
[14:16] <mate|piterke> zostawie to moze na potem gdy juz bede bardziej obeznany z systemem
[14:16] <diogenes_> ok
[14:17] <mate|piterke> zainstalowalem sterowniki cos o nazwie bylo o ile pamietam cups czy podobnie
[14:19] <diogenes_> no czasem to duzo pracy potrzebuje aby configurowac skanera wiec, jak Ci on bedzie potrzebny to sprobujemy.
[14:25] <mate|piterke> ok no tak przydalby mi sie skaner bo  musze kurde do niemieckiej skarbowki dokumenty zeskanowac i wyslac
[14:26] <diogenes_> no to chcesz sprobowac?
[14:27] <mate|piterke> a masz czas to mozemy
[14:28] <diogenes_> ok daj linka skad sterowniki sciagnales
[14:28] <mate|piterke> wyswietla komunikat blad podczas komunikacji ze skanerem
[14:29] <mate|piterke> http://support.brother.com/g/b/downloadhowto.aspx?c=pl&lang=pl&prod=mfc235c_eu_as&os=128&dlid=dlf006654_000&flang=4&type3=600
[14:30] <diogenes_> ok i zainstalowales wszysko bylo fajnie? zadnych bladow?
[14:31] <mate|piterke> tak poprzez menadzer pakietow
[14:32] <diogenes_> ok teraz otworz terminal
[14:32] <mate|piterke> mam otwarty
[14:32] <diogenes_> wpisz: sudo apt install sane* xsane*
[14:34] <mate|piterke> pisze bz nacisnac t lub n
[14:34] <diogenes_> t
[14:34] <mate|piterke> ok
[14:35] <mate|piterke> robi sie cos w terminalu
[14:35] <diogenes_> powiedz jak sie sknczy instalowanie
[14:36] <mate|piterke> ok
[14:36] <ea_> hello!
[14:36] <diogenes_> hello
[14:36] <mate|piterke> teraz wlasnie skonczylo sie
[14:36] <diogenes_> ok teraz: sudo apt install libsane-extras
[14:37] <mate|piterke> i tez literke t
[14:37] <diogenes_> tak
[14:38] <mate|piterke> zrobil
[14:38] <diogenes_> teraz wpisz; sudo adduser saned scanner
[14:38] <ea_> I have recently installed Mate. However, booting the system takes ages. My root partition is a btrfs filesystem, and during boot-up the message "Scanning for btrfs file systems" comes up, and the cursor blinks and I wait 2 minutes for the system to start.
[14:39] <diogenes_> ea_, btrfs was a wrong choice, it has issues like that sometimes.
[14:41] <mate|piterke> uzytkownik saned  jest juz czlonkiem grupy  scaner to w terminalu mi sie pojawilo
[14:41] <ea_> diogenes_, oh no! I was looking forward to the subvolumes feature. So unfortunate. All other posts in the internet addressing this issue, which I found, recommend removing the btrfs-tools, which is not an option, if one wants to use btrfs.
[14:41] <diogenes_> dobrze, teraz resetuj komputer i wracaj
[14:41] <mate|piterke> ok
[14:42] <diogenes_> ea_, yeah, even Red-Hat does not include any btrfs in the future.
[14:46] <mate|piterke> jestem po restarcie konpa
[14:46] <mate|piterke> kompa
[14:47] <diogenes_> ok teraz, w terminalu wpisz: scanimage --list-devices | nc termbin.com 9999
[14:47] <diogenes_> i wklej tu linka ktorego dostasz
[14:47] <mate|piterke> ok
[14:48] <diogenes_> a czy skaner jest teraz podlaczony przez usb?
[14:48] <mate|piterke> tak jest podlaczony przez usb
[14:48] <diogenes_> i odpalony?
[14:49] <mate|piterke> tak jest podlaczony
[14:49] <diogenes_> ok dawaj linka
[14:51] <mate|piterke> https://thepasteb.in/p/3lh7KrYzBZWI1 https://thepasteb.in/p/58hg9rYLJ0jIv
[14:52] <mate|piterke> ale on cos innego wykryl to nie jest moj scaner
[14:52] <diogenes_> ok teraz wpisz: xsane
[14:54] <mate|piterke> ok pojawilo sie xane i wzbor urzadzenia
[14:54] <diogenes_> sprobuj skanowac
[14:55] <diogenes_> tam gdzies musi byc scan
[14:55] <diogenes_> nacisnij'
[14:55] <mate|piterke> na zielono podswietlony jest cnon
[14:55] <diogenes_> nacisneles?
[14:57] <mate|piterke> tak i komunikat blad podczas odczytu nieprawidlowy argument
[14:57] <diogenes_> ok zamknij ten program
[14:58] <mate|piterke> zamkniety
[14:58] <diogenes_> wpisz: sudo scanimage --list-devices | nc termbin.com 9999
[14:58] <diogenes_> i dawaj linka
[14:59] <mate|piterke> teraz w terminalu nic nie pokazuje
[15:00] <diogenes_> tam tylko link musi sie pokazac
[15:00] <mate|piterke> https://thepasteb.in/p/vghO8k03oR4f3
[15:01] <diogenes_> dobrze teraz sprobuj: gksu xsane
[15:01] <diogenes_> otworze sie znow ten progran, sprobuj nacisnac scan
[15:02] <mate|piterke> gksu xsane  jest nie zainstalowany czy chcesz go zainstalowac
[15:02] <diogenes_> wpisz: sudo apt install gksu
[15:02] <mate|piterke> ok
[15:03] <mate|piterke> chyba zainstalowalo
[15:03] <diogenes_> teraz: gksu xsane
[15:05] <mate|piterke> ok
[15:07] <mate|piterke> mamy problem bo to nie sa moje skanery ten epson i canon wywala ten sam blad
[15:08] <diogenes_> dobrze zamknij ten peogram
[15:08] <diogenes_> wpisz: sane-find-scanner | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:08] <diogenes_> daj linka
[15:08] <diogenes_> a takze: lsusb | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:09] <mate|piterke> https://thepasteb.in/p/nZhlDRyq8r9IY
[15:11] <mate|piterke> https://thepasteb.in/p/P1hvXLD4O5wul
[15:12] <diogenes_> teraz ro samo ale z sudo: sudo sane-find-scanner | nc termbin.com 9999
[15:13] <diogenes_> teraz poczekasz troszeczke wroce sie ktortko
[15:13] <mate|piterke> https://thepasteb.in/p/76hENBPzKExFV
[15:13] <mate|piterke> ok
[15:32] <diogenes_> mate|piterke, jestes?
[15:36] <mate|piterke> jestem
[15:38] <diogenes_> teraz wpisz: sudo scanimage -L
[15:38] <diogenes_> i powiedz czy slychac skanera
[15:38] <mate|piterke> ok
[15:40] <gwyb> Olá, estou desenvolvendo o osso-os e pricipalmente Deskosso, tem alguémsss interressadosss???
[15:40] <mate|piterke> niestety nie slychac go a jeszcze kilka dni temu pod winda chodzil
[15:41] <diogenes_> sprobuj: sudo sudo scanimage >/home/$USER/scanimage.pnm
[15:41] <mate|piterke> yastanawia mnie skad jest ten canon i epson
[15:43] <diogenes_> sudo scanimage >/home/$USER/scanimage.pnm
[15:43] <mate|piterke> https://thepasteb.in/p/xGhmvWGj0QPTM
[15:45] <diogenes_> sudo scanimage -L
[15:46] <mate|piterke> https://thepasteb.in/p/O7h5xBPD5DmSq
[15:47] <mate|piterke> caly czas ten epson i canon to mnie zastanawia skad to jest
[15:48] <diogenes_> cos zle ze sterownikamy, przyjdz w poniedzialem i zobaczymi
[15:48] <mate|piterke> ok wielkie dzieki za poswiecony czas
[15:49] <mate|piterke> pozdrawiam
[15:50] <diogenes_> narka
[16:26] <DJAnonimo> hello
[16:26] <DJAnonimo> is orange pi win plus supported by ubuntu mate?
[20:38] <ircfan> is there a command that lists everything that uses a certain key combination?
[20:52] <roman> hello
[20:53] <ircfan> hello
[21:00] <roman> anyone up for a hardware/graphics challenge?  :p
[21:00]  * ircfan stands back
[21:01] <roman> haha
[21:01] <ircfan> :)
[21:02] <roman> i installed a video card so i can use a new monitor. the os sees it but the monitor isnt registering resolutions
[21:03] <roman> the monitor works on another computer
[21:04] <roman> anyone know how to use xrandr?
[21:37] <maxcrooks> .......hi
[22:00] <ubuntu-mate> hello
[22:01] <ubuntu-mate> so it seems i cannot install ubuntu mate on my pc.
[22:01] <ubuntu-mate> i get an error about grub install on dev/sda failed
[22:02] <ubuntu-mate> apparently this is a kind of famous error
[22:02] <ubuntu-mate> so can someone teach me the fix
[22:02] <ubuntu-mate> i'm new to linux/ubuntu
[22:07] <ubuntu-mate> well i don't even know how to use the irc chat utility - otherwise somebody would respond.  right?
[22:12] <ircfan> ubuntu-mate: hang on :)
[22:13] <ircfan> most of the times people are just busy or away when there is silence
[22:13] <ubuntu-mate> ok.  well at least i know i am no along
[22:13] <ubuntu-mate> alone
[22:14] <ircfan> what error message do you get exactly?
[22:15] <ubuntu-mate> let me get the exact language
[22:15] <ubuntu-mate> basically grub loader failed to install on dev/sda
[22:16] <ircfan> let me find out how to get to the installer log
[22:17] <ubuntu-mate> executing grub-install/dev/sda failed
[22:17] <ubuntu-mate> then it says:  this is a fatal error
[22:19] <ircfan> what i would do in your situation: boot a livecd like the ubuntu cd and mount the partition that is meant as your root
[22:19] <ubuntu-mate> so, just imagien a little red embarrased face
[22:19] <ubuntu-mate> how do I "mount" a cd
[22:20] <ubuntu-mate> a have booted from the cd to where it says install or try
[22:20] <ircfan> boot the cd and then mount the partition that has the root filesystem
[22:20] <ubuntu-mate> i'm currently running with try
[22:20] <ircfan> ah, hmmm
[22:20] <ircfan> maybe i should have told you about the reason earlier -
[22:21] <ircfan> the point of me is that the files in /var/log/installer could provide more info
[22:21] <ubuntu-mate> ok  is the partition you want me to mount on the cd or do you mean my hard drive
[22:22] <ircfan> its on the hdd
[22:22] <ubuntu-mate> i have two hard drives and I think sda is my first
[22:22] <ubuntu-mate> ok  i can see the file folders on the hard drive
[22:22] <ircfan> you can look around with "fdisk -l"
[22:22] <ircfan> maybe add "| more" or something in case it scrolls too much
[22:23] <ubuntu-mate> what am i looking for
[22:23] <ubuntu-mate> i can see th efile folders on the hard drive.
[22:23] <ubuntu-mate> do i need to mount from a terminal
[22:24] <ircfan> ah, these partitions are already mounted? even better. the root partition is the one that has many directories
[22:25] <ircfan> like usr, var, etc.
[22:25] <ubuntu-mate> got it
[22:25] <ircfan> nice
[22:25] <ubuntu-mate> i have bin and boot and cdrom and on and on and on
[22:25] <ircfan> then walk into /var/log and see if there is a install or installer directory
[22:26] <ubuntu-mate> i dont' see a install or installer directory
[22:26] <ubuntu-mate> i have a bootstrap log
[22:26] <ubuntu-mate> file
[22:27] <ubuntu-mate> and a fail lot
[22:27] <ubuntu-mate> log
[22:27] <ircfan> perfect
[22:27] <ubuntu-mate> should i open one
[22:27] <ircfan> now we need to look for occurances of "sda" with grep
[22:27] <ircfan> or your gui tool
[22:28] <ubuntu-mate> so i should search
[22:28] <ubuntu-mate> ?
[22:28] <ircfan> yup
[22:28] <ircfan> and when you find occurances near the end of the log it would be good to paste them on some website so i can have a look
[22:32] <ubuntu-mate> i searched the files the have .log and i cannot find sda
[22:33] <ubuntu-mate> i am just using the little magnifying glass
[22:34] <ircfan> okay, different approach: you mentioned that you have 2 hdds. is it possible that the installer used the 2nd drive and the installer fails when it tries to use the 1st drive?
[22:35] <ircfan> cause then you need to select in the installer to do "something else" as install method (not the automated partitioning). then you can select where grub is put
[22:35] <ircfan> thats all i know
[22:36] <ubuntu-mate> sure.  could be.  but both discs are lumped togehter in a 1.5tB volume
[22:37] <ubuntu-mate> so i don't actuallyh see two drive.
[22:37] <ubuntu-mate> i'll try do something different
[22:37] <ubuntu-mate> thanks for helping
[22:37] <ircfan> welcome & good luck
[23:32] <daddy> so quick note to ircfan (I think it was you who helped with my failed grub load)
[23:32] <daddy> I removed (pulled the cables) from one HDD and the install completed
[23:32] <daddy> which is why i guess i'm showing up as daddy
[23:32] <daddy> anyway -- thanks for pointing to the problem.
[23:37] <ircfan> :)