[00:00] @dohbee, You have that instint to be rude [00:00] Is not rude. Is fact [00:01] @dohbee, So why don't you take over both ubports and yunit? I guess you can do better. Right? [00:01] @dohbee, Is not the first time that your reposnses, you view of things is agrressive with others. [00:01] I understand tha Rodney did not whanted to be rude. Everything is ok, guys, just lets be kind and do not complicate simply things [00:02] Changing strings and building qt 5.9 in a ppa, is not a whole lot. Especially when nobody is really using it. [00:03] its still valuable and could be merged .... so diff, create a branch and done and let yunit die [00:03] I really dont care who you are, what you do, or what you mean to any project, i think you should be more soft with people. [00:04] I have no idea what you are talking about. [00:05] I like the open source work cause i realise that this is a more human place and with more human people. Please, everybody, avoid spoiling this that is the best characteristic of the open souce world [00:05] He is talking more in a factual sense, rather than any instinct to be rude to you. I think perhaps you are finding it hard to read his tone as you don't seem to be a native English speaker. Please do not take offence. [00:05] Once you have done the same to me, with agressive responses. You need to calm down [00:07] @dohbee, Big agree [00:07] No, you were being rude in here, and I called you on it, Ruben. You are the one who needs to relax. [00:07] Everybody, lets calm down. The opensource world thanks you [00:08] Im calm man, but dont walk or piss on others works. [00:09] I don't [00:09] @dohbee, People buy iPhones..... [00:09] ok you all have a good night [00:09] I wish I could help we an iPhone, @wayneoutthere [00:10] Mí noches están muy bien [00:10] im not spanish [00:10] Not am i [00:10] im portuguese [00:11] and my nights are good also [00:11] But, it's hard to have a bad night in Buenos Aires [00:11] @dohbee, nice [00:11] hope you enjoy [00:12] I almost got robbed the other day, and it was still a good night [00:12] it happens not just there [00:13] got to sleep now is 00:12 here [00:13] @dohbee, Turism?? [00:13] Yes. Las Ramblas in Barcelona is a notorious spot as well [00:13] bs as is fucking dangerious lately [00:13] Salatas had a very good will and worked in the basis of this good will. I do not know him very well but i think that we must thak the people like him, not attac or ofend. From me, a very grateful thank to Salatas. [00:14] lately = last couple of years... [00:14] @malditobastardo, Nah, it's fine, despite the idiot president [00:14] @dohbee, como to porto, night is dangerous beutifull city but sometimes dangerous [00:14] @malditobastardo, Watch your language please [00:14] @wayneoutthere, Seriously? [00:14] Yes [00:15] see you all tomorrow [00:15] Serious [00:15] I could understand if it was something offensive, but that? [00:15] @Jyoti, You are talking like I'm dead :p [00:16] Wayne, its the truth. Sorry but I dont have any word to describe better the reality of my country (whole continent also) [00:16] @jsalatas, Braaaaaiiiinnnnsssss [00:17] @malditobastardo, Jaja. South America does have a penchant for dictators [00:17] You are very alive, Salatas. We must say "afraristos" not only to the dead :-) [00:18] @dohbee, 😿😿😿 [00:18] It's ok, we elected one too, up north [00:18] its a hard topic. I just came from a meeting with friend, we discussed about this [00:18] Yeah [00:19] Where are you? [00:19] Yours one and Macri... same s** [00:19] Prague, CZ [00:19] But I am from Buenos Aires [00:19] Ah ok [00:20] Too bad, thought we could get a cerveza :) [00:21] OT: just enjoy the city, the night, the heat, asado, terere/mate, music... be careful, use your common sense, be careful and everything will be good [00:21] Yeah. Not my first rodeo. :) [00:22] @dohbee, Indeed! Maybe someday, who knows! :) (try the homemade ones, are the best, quilmes is only good when you get draft one with good pizza) [00:22] Yeah. Drinking Antares now. [00:38] @dohbee, Lol, so many ppl pickpocketing there and Lloret de Mar [00:39] Yes [00:39] My friend had his phone stolen on las ramblas [00:42] Not surprising, if you pay attention you can literally spot ten of them in one spot. [00:43] Have you been asked for a donation for a kids hospital, kindergarden or something along those lines? [00:44] usually a bunch of women will come up to you for that, it's fake, just a bunch of scamers [00:44] scameresses? [00:45] Probably. My Spanish was not great when I was there, so I just "no tengo" and keep walking [00:46] Probably the best thing you could have done. [00:47] Heh, no different than in DC, Boston, or NYC [01:49] @wayneoutthere, Entered. [01:49] (Sticker, 512x467) https://irc.ubports.com/x0We0i8u/file_3866 [01:52] Hiya. If anyone by any chance could answer my question. I recently installed the latest version of ubuntu touch to my nexus 7 2013 (15.04 OTA-15) but I'm entirely lost where I may be able to find and install applications, as the ubunto store that is built in will not load anything. [01:57] @Catbirby, It looks like you have the Canonical version of UT. [01:57] You will want to switch over to UBports. [01:57] and all apps will be found in the OpenStore app [01:58] or … https://open.uappexplorer.com/ [01:59] Hmm, okay. Thank you. Is there a simple way to swap to the ubports version from directly inside of my current version? t took an arm and a leg to try to get this to install on my tablet. [02:01] do you have the N7 hooked up? is `adb devices` working? [02:01] is ubuntu-device-flash installed? [02:01] `sudo ubuntu-device-flash --server=http://system-image.ubports.com` [02:05] hmm, seems when I run that command it is asking for me to choose either "core, personal, query or touch" [02:05] I'm assuming I would use touch [02:08] mak was added by: mak [02:08] `sudo ubuntu-device-flash --server=http://system-image.ubports.com --channel=15.04/stable` … try with the channel specified [02:10] channel is an unknown flag [02:11] Hello mak and Welcome. Let us know if you have any questions and be sure to check out https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome [02:13] @Catbirby, can you confirm the double dashes? please see bottom of this page for example … https://devices.ubports.com/#/hammerhead [02:13] yep, I am using double dashes [02:15] Catbirby was added by: Catbirby [02:16] lets try the whole command: … `sudo ubuntu-device-flash --server=http://system-image.ubports.com touch --device=flo --channel=15.04/stable` [02:17] if not... we can go back to first one and select `touch` [02:17] Awesome. That's semming to do the trick [02:18] it will perform an OTA update... to UBports version 2 it appears. [02:19] Okay. Seems to be currently downloading and pushing the files. [02:25] A part of me feels that taking the route to install ubports in the first place would have been smart, since I ended up having to scour the internet for a special boot file and recovery file to use the Canonical branch 😅 [02:26] Well..you did it right. First step is to get adb enabled recovery installed [02:26] You did the hard part 😂 [02:26] Congrats [02:27] Hah. Only took a month. … Looks like something borked when it tried to restart recovery to flash. [02:28] (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/KM8o7KOS/file_3868.jpg [02:29] I'll try a fresh install, flashing those boot and recovery images I guess [03:24] Hmm. Issue seems to be consistent no matter what I do. Any ideas? [03:47] @Catbirby, is /cache full? [03:49] We're talking the device cache? I'm not sure since I have no working OS, and am not able to view the files on the device [03:49] can you get an adb shell in the recovery? [03:49] i can [03:49] what's the output of `df -h` [03:51] just my desktop devices it looks [03:51] sorry, `df -h`I mean in the adb shell [03:53] Oh duh. Lol … i'm only using 9.8mb out of 551.7mb [03:54] the rest of my mount poins are sitting at 0% usage [03:54] most probably aren't mounted [03:55] `mount -a` should mount everything [03:55] As I understand it, the entire ubports image should be in /cache during the install. It should be using a few hundred MB [03:56] I think everyhting was already dumped into /system at this point, which is at 99% usage [04:00] If it's failing after extracting things, maybe /system is full? [04:03] I'm unsure of _what_ the exact step it is failing at, but I do know that it gets to > `rebooting into recovery to flash`, which reboots the device then leads to the error I posted in the picture above [04:04] I just tried another install, and it seems to be populating the cache like it should. [04:05] Basically what happens in the recovery is the .tar.xz archives in /cache are extracted into /system. Pretty much any error there will look like the one you have [04:05] can I see the full output of `mount -a; df -h` after a failed install? [04:06] Yep, give me a second to login to telegram on the desktop I'm installing on [04:08] `Filesystem Size Used Available Use% Mounted on … tmpfs 902.4M 128.0K 902.2M 0% /dev … tmpfs 902.4M 0 902.4M 0% /storage … tmpfs 902.4M 0 902.4M 0% /mnt/secure … tmpfs 902.4M 0 902.4M 0% /mnt/fuse … /dev/block/platform/msm_sdcc.1/by-name/cache … 551.7M 442.4M 109.3M 80 [04:08] /dev/block/platform/msm_sdcc.1/by-name/userdata … 12.2G 160.9M 12.0G 1% /data … /dev/block/platform/msm_sdcc.1/by-name/system … 827.8M 823.4M 4.3M 99% /system` [04:09] try completely wiping /system and /cache with rm -fr, then installing again [04:10] I'm not sure your /system partition is even big enough though, mine's using 1.7G [04:11] That's interesting... [04:11] that's on a pro5 though [04:12] I won't see why the image would be bigger than /system if it's made for the tablet [04:13] I doubt it would be, but I do have a few other things installed. I've been playing with some stuff in xenial, but I don't think it's all that much [04:14] But I guess at the same time I can't figure out why the offical ubuntu image is borked. Lol [04:14] Nope same error [04:16] Just checked the mount points again and it seems to be the same story [04:16] 99% on system and 80% on cache [04:18] A fresh install of xenial on the pro5 uses 1.7G in /system. Assuming vivid is a similar size, I'm guessing your /system partition is too small [04:19] also this issue might be related: https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues/300 [04:19] Yeah, it's seeming so. I wonder if it'd mess anything up to expand it [04:19] Ah, yes. This was my inital issue, and I had found a fix to it [04:20] I had to expand /cache to get xenial to install. Aside from wiping everything, nothing's broken [04:20] Yeah, I'm not too concerned about stuff being wiped [04:23] I wonder what the process is of expanding on android [04:25] I roughly did this https://geekpeek.net/resize-filesystem-fdisk-resize2fs/ from twrp [04:25] I think I had to use sfdisk, but in general things were the same [04:26] hmm, okay [04:26] fair warning though, it probably wouldn't be too hard to break something important [04:28] Okay. I mean I imagine shrinking, like 2gbs from /data shouldn't hurt anything, since that jsut stores userfiles. [04:29] yeah, shrinking /data is safe [04:30] for reference, my /system is 2.4G [04:30] total [04:30] I planned on making ti at least 2GBs [04:31] that should be enough:`/dev/block/platform/15570000.ufs/by-name/system … 2.4G 1.7G 742.1M 70% /system` [04:36] so I'm assuming to "shrink" data I'd have to delete the partition entirely [04:36] since fdisk can't do it due to it being read only [04:36] even after umounting [04:41] resize the filesystem, then delete and recreate the partition [04:41] In the quite likely event something goes wrong, you can just delete and recreate the partition, the format it [04:51] I'm not sure if I'm missing something or not, but the normal commands that would be used to delete a partiton using fdisk aren't working. and with how oyu were saying that you used sfdisk, that's showing as a not valid command. [04:53] sorry, it was sgdisk [04:53] http://www.rodsbooks.com/gdisk/sgdisk-walkthrough.html [05:31] I am so lost right now on this... [05:33] I am trying to create a new partiton that is ~10 GBs, yet I am unsure of where to insert the size value. [05:35] sgdisk doesn't use sizes, you need to give it a start and end sector number [05:35] ye[, been trying that [05:35] can I see sgdisk -p /dev/whatever [05:36] ```~ # sgdisk --print /dev/block/mmcblk0p30 … Disk /dev/block/mmcblk0p30: 26058719 sectors, 12.4 GiB … Logical sector size: 512 bytes … Disk identifier (GUID): 2BA98B92-1E1E-4594-879B-1C56C9734FA6 … Partition table holds up to 128 entries … First usable sector is 34, last usable sector is 26058685 … Partitions will be aligned on 2048-sector boundaries … Total free space is 2014 sectors (1007.0 KiB) … Number Start (sector) End ( [05:36] Name … 10 2048 26058685 12.4 GiB 8300 … ~ # sgdisk --new 2048:2100000 /dev/block/mmcblk0p30 … Could not create partition 2048 from 2100000 to 2047 … Error encountered; not saving changes.``` [05:36] the two commands I was trying [05:36] `sgdisk -p /dev/block/mmcblk0`? [05:36] mmcblk0p30 is a partition itself, not the disk [05:38] at the moment you have a parition on mmcblk0, and the partnum is 30, hence mmcblk0p30 [05:38] ```~ # sgdisk --print /dev/block/mmcblk0 … Disk /dev/block/mmcblk0: 30777344 sectors, 14.7 GiB … Logical sector size: 512 bytes … Disk identifier (GUID): 98101B32-BBE2-4BF2-A06E-2BB33D000C20 … Partition table holds up to 32 entries … First usable sector is 34, last usable sector is 30777310 … Partitions will be aligned on 2-sector boundaries … Total free space is 1526010 sectors (745.1 MiB) … Number Start (sector) End (sector) [05:38] 1 131072 306143 85.5 MiB 0700 radio … 2 393216 399359 3.0 MiB FFFF modemst1 … 3 399360 405503 3.0 MiB FFFF modemst2 … 4 524288 554287 14.6 MiB 8300 persist … 5 655360 656919 780.0 KiB FFFF m9kefs1 … 6 656920 658479 780.0 KiB FFFF m9kefs2 … 7 786432 787991 780.0 KiB [05:38] 787992 794135 3.0 MiB FFFF fsg … 9 917504 920503 1.5 MiB FFFF sbl1 … 10 920504 923503 1.5 MiB FFFF sbl2 … 11 923504 927599 2.0 MiB FFFF sbl3 … 12 927600 937839 5.0 MiB FFFF aboot … 13 937840 938863 512.0 KiB FFFF rpm … 14 1048576 1081343 16.0 MiB FFFF boot … 15 [05:38] 512.0 KiB FFFF tz … 16 1180672 1180673 1024 bytes FFFF pad … 17 1180674 1183673 1.5 MiB FFFF sbl2b … 18 1183674 1187769 2.0 MiB FFFF sbl3b … 19 1187770 1198009 5.0 MiB FFFF abootb … 20 1198010 1199033 512.0 KiB FFFF rpmb … 21 1199034 1200057 512.0 KiB FFFF tzb … 22 1310720 3031039 [05:38] 23 3031040 4177919 560.0 MiB 8300 cache … 24 4194304 4196351 1024.0 KiB FFFF misc … 25 4325376 4345855 10.0 MiB FFFF recovery … 26 4456448 4456463 8.0 KiB FFFF DDR … 27 4456464 4456479 8.0 KiB FFFF ssd … 28 4456480 4456481 1024 bytes FFFF m9kefsc … 29 4587520 4587583 32.0 KiB FFFF metad [05:38] 30777310 12.4 GiB 8300 userdata``` [05:38] oh wow that's spammy, my bad [05:39] https://gist.github.com/anonymous/2a02412887d7ff1fad36e504828528bd [05:41] I don't know what the partitions between cache and userdata are for, they don't look very safe to move [05:42] you might be able to get away with merging system and cache, and making a new cache out of userdata [05:42] I think as long as the names and partition numbers match, it won't matter where they are, but I haven't really tested that [05:43] Oh, I see what you mean. Okay [05:47] oh great, since I'm using twrp via fastboot cache hold my sgdisk commands and stuff [05:53] Yeah, I'm not able to delete cache [06:20] when you say you can't delete cache, what exactly happens? [06:22] It tells me `can't remove '/cache': Device or resource busy` [06:23] can you unmount it? [06:23] oh, that is unmounting it [06:23] this is with twrp installed? [06:26] Yes [06:26] Honestly, I think for now I'm just going to try to install openstore on the stable version of ubuntu touch and see how that works out. [06:27] fair enough, I couldn't find the beginning of the conversation to figure out what the actual goal was here :) [06:29] Oh, yeah. What I was trying to do was to install applications onto ubuntu touch https://t.me/ubports/97411 [06:32] Thank you for taking your time to try to help me tho 😅 [06:32] no worries [08:54] Ok broheims, I'm going to move my MX4 to Xenial dev branch to give him some purpose now that he's been outmoded by my MP5. Help me get him through his midlife crisis! [08:56] Where are scopes stored? Is it possible to copy them from one device to another? Is it just one file per scope or several/a directory? I would like to get those of the limited Venn Diagram intersection between the categories "came from Canonical's store" and "still works" ^_^ [08:59] And hell, I guess it would be good to archive the non-functional ones, just in case a dev gets them working again. [09:09] I'll ditto that question for clicks. I think someone said it's possible to compile a click if you have the app but can't access the Canonical store- essentially pure reverse engineering? Any advice/documentation about that please? [09:31] Kind of overriding those questions is: if I go to Xenial, am I at risk of either clicks or scopes just uninstalling/deleting? I'm fine with them being non-functional, but I don't want to lose them. If the answer is no risk, then I can pretty much go ahead with the upgrade right this minute. [09:36] Can anyone tell me the difference between the stable and the devil channel? I found no good answer online and in the documentation. :( [09:38] Ricardo was added by: Ricardo [09:38] Good morning: I installed ubuntu in nexus 5 and in stable, rc and development I can not detect any pendrive.ha someone else has happened.is a bug? [09:40] @Sören, As I understand, the stable version is the one supposed to be used as a daily driver (the one you can use normally). … The dev channel is used by developers and testers for improving the next release of ubports. [09:42] Yes, if you have a secondary phone or tablet, you can try out devel on it. But for example, I wouldn't recommend doing it on your phone which makes calls on a regular basis, has the primary SIM card, etc. [09:47]