| lotuspsychje | good morning to all | 05:20 |
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| Bashing-om | lotuspsychje: :) | 05:23 |
| lotuspsychje | hey Bashing-om | 05:41 |
| marcosfermin | Hello guys. I just installed Ubuntu MATE on a MacBook Pro and configured GRUB. Has any of you done it? I would like to share some thoughts about the experience | 07:04 |
| EriC^^ | morning all | 07:05 |
| Bashing-om | lotuspsychje: You going to be on for a bit ? | 07:06 |
| Bashing-om | lotuspsychje_: You going to be on for a bit ? | 07:09 |
| lordievader | Good morning | 07:13 |
| EriC^^ | morning lordievader | 07:13 |
| EriC^^ | how are you? | 07:13 |
| lordievader | Hey EriC^^ | 07:13 |
| lordievader | Doing good here, how are you? | 07:13 |
| EriC^^ | good thanks | 07:13 |
| ducasse | good morning, all | 07:39 |
| lordievader | Hey ducasse | 07:40 |
| ducasse | hi lordievader - all well? | 07:43 |
| lordievader | Doing good here, how are you? | 07:43 |
| lotuspsychje_ | bbl work | 07:50 |
| ducasse | all good, thanks | 07:50 |
| EriC^^ | hey ducasse | 07:51 |
| ducasse | hi EriC^^, how are you today? | 07:56 |
| EriC^^ | good thanks, you? | 07:58 |
| ducasse | all good here, just having a relaxing morning. | 08:00 |
| === kostkon__ is now known as kostkon | ||
| oerheks | Hi girls :-D | 09:53 |
| jink | O__o | 09:53 |
| oerheks | hello sir :-) | 09:53 |
| jink | That's so sexist, assuming gender. :P | 09:54 |
| oerheks | true .. but i like the confusing some have about mine | 09:54 |
| jink | Maar goed, goedemorgen! :D | 09:54 |
| oerheks | oh, jij weer | 09:54 |
| jink | "heks" kinda gives it away, no? :o | 09:54 |
| oerheks | wikipedia heeft het goed. | 09:54 |
| oerheks | "meestal" | 09:54 |
| jink | Ah, ok. | 09:55 |
| jink | I can't be bothered either way, tbh. :P | 09:55 |
| oerheks | i am waiting for a core 2 duo laptop .. | 09:56 |
| jink | ^__^ | 09:56 |
| oerheks | i love freebies, well i have to wash windows for it. | 09:56 |
| jink | 2? | 09:58 |
| jink | Or more? | 09:58 |
| oerheks | maybe 5, all ground floor. he does not want money for it, so we do it like this, closed wallets | 09:59 |
| jink | Aight. :) | 09:59 |
| oerheks | *if* it has just 2 gb ddr2, i have 4 gb sodimm here eating dust | 10:00 |
| lordievader | > i am waiting for a core 2 duo laptop .. | 10:03 |
| lordievader | As in the machine physically, or virtually? | 10:03 |
| oerheks | physically | 10:07 |
| lordievader | Any plans for the machine? | 10:07 |
| oerheks | jups, 17.10 KDE | 10:07 |
| oerheks | I really like a 2nd machine, neighbour had no desktop spare, justan old core 2 dus.. | 10:08 |
| jink | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DT5apgxUMAAuUPM.jpg:large | 10:12 |
| BluesKaj | Hi folks | 11:20 |
| jink | :) | 11:22 |
| marcoscosmos | Hi | 11:22 |
| jink | What do you guys use to run Ubuntu on Windows 7? | 11:23 |
| oerheks | windows 7 is EOL, no? | 11:23 |
| jink | Not my call, company machine, but sure. | 11:23 |
| jink | At some point, in some future, we'll get upgraded to 10. But today is not that day. | 11:24 |
| oerheks | i *would* use vmware | 11:25 |
| marcoscosmos | In windows 10 there's bash on ubuntu on windows which isn't bad. Dunno about 7 | 11:25 |
| jink | marcoscosmos: Yes, obviously. See above. :P | 11:25 |
| marcoscosmos | But basically it's a WM or bust if you want to use more than quick access stuff | 11:26 |
| jink | For quick access stuff, I use cygwin, but I need Ubuntu for some other things. | 11:27 |
| jink | oerheks: But? | 11:27 |
| marcoscosmos | Like, it was easier to use bash-on-windows to run tensorflow-tensorboard than whatever bs I'd need to do naively but that's probably like the upper limit | 11:27 |
| marcoscosmos | yeah bash-for-windows is probably proximal to cygwin. Bit more reliable, less featured | 11:28 |
| marcoscosmos | features* | 11:28 |
| jink | More reliable, how? I have hardly any issues with cygwin. | 11:29 |
| marcoscosmos | well, as a student at university in first year the ability to get cygwin running on the university systems was like, 50/50 | 11:29 |
| marcoscosmos | the probability of* | 11:29 |
| marcoscosmos | it was awful | 11:30 |
| jink | :D | 11:30 |
| marcoscosmos | also I think cygwin does some magic to be slightly more windows esque than a proper wm | 11:30 |
| jink | Yes, it does. | 11:31 |
| marcoscosmos | But TBH ATM I only use windows if I must | 11:31 |
| marcoscosmos | Which reminds me I still need to go return my damn laptop ugh | 11:32 |
| jink | It supports //server/share and such by default. And it somehow translates paths. | 11:32 |
| marcoscosmos | yeah, that | 11:32 |
| jink | Everything is Windows, here, and it's fine, really. | 11:32 |
| jink | Well, mostly, anyway. | 11:32 |
| jink | :/ | 11:34 |
| marcoscosmos | stupid goddamn hexchat | 11:43 |
| marcoscosmos | What IRC client do you guys use? | 11:43 |
| oerheks | hexchat | 11:43 |
| oerheks | welcome to irc, dropping connections is so much more fun | 11:44 |
| marcoscosmos | I'm using it atm but it's kind of so-so. Also it crashes whenever my task tray dies (i.e. when I reboot my panel to update the config) | 11:44 |
| marcoscosmos | which, atm, is /a lot/ | 11:44 |
| marcoscosmos | Also I need the mouse to change channels, or just don't know the irc commands well yet | 11:45 |
| lordievader | marcoscosmos: Riot | 11:47 |
| lordievader | Only downside is that is it is written in node.js 😭 | 11:47 |
| marcoscosmos | Lol | 11:48 |
| marcoscosmos | I'll try it | 11:48 |
| jink | irssi \o/ | 11:48 |
| marcoscosmos | I'm too tired to get weechat working atm | 11:48 |
| lordievader | marcoscosmos: Do note that Riot is a Matrix client. (Matrix can be bridged into IRC, hence it is my IRC client) | 11:50 |
| marcoscosmos | ultimately I'll probably opt for an ncurses client but | 11:50 |
| marcoscosmos | Eh does it require config at this moment, lordievader ? | 11:50 |
| lordievader | Well you need an account at some homeserver (matrix.org hosts a public homeserver). Then you can follow https://gist.github.com/fstab/ce805d3001600ac147b79d413668770d | 11:51 |
| marcoscosmos | Ehk tomorrow then. I've literally burnt the last three days trying to configure my system, I'm all out of energy | 11:53 |
| marcoscosmos | jink can you help me be real lazy and post to me the command for joining freenode in irssi, with all params? | 11:53 |
| marcoscosmos | Please? :p | 11:54 |
| oerheks | if you are *real* lazy, you won't copy it | 11:54 |
| marcoscosmos | well I tried /sconnect irc.freenode.net but, it returns "not connected to server" | 11:55 |
| marcoscosmos | if I was really lazy, I wouldn't have tried first | 11:55 |
| BluesKaj | /server chat.freenode.net , I think | 11:56 |
| oerheks | /connect irc.freenode.net without s | 11:56 |
| marcoscosmos | oerheks, ty | 11:56 |
| marcoscosmos | now, sec | 11:57 |
| oerheks | now all hide | 11:58 |
| lordievader | marcoscosmos: https://irssi.org/documentation/startup/ | 11:58 |
| marcoscosmos | lordievader: ty as well | 11:59 |
| lordievader | ^ also explains how to do auto connect, etc. | 11:59 |
| BluesKaj | heh | 11:59 |
| BluesKaj | /server doers work | 11:59 |
| kaj | yup | 11:59 |
| marcoscosmos | Which key is meta? alt? | 12:00 |
| marcoscosmos | yes, alt, kgood | 12:00 |
| kaj | irssi is great for getting out of jams without a desktop | 12:02 |
| marcoscosmos | yeah that makes a lot of sense | 12:02 |
| kaj | it's helped me numerous times | 12:03 |
| marcoscosmos | I'm gradually using more and more console stuff over GUI like. I always preffered bash commands over menus so I like rofi but | 12:03 |
| marcoscosmos | I'm still not sold on like, vim | 12:03 |
| marcoscosmos | mainly due to scrolling tbh | 12:04 |
| kaj | I still prefer the gui since I'm in several chats simultaneously | 12:04 |
| marcoscosmos | the modes are fine but, I'm still significantly slower with vim because I usually just scroll | 12:04 |
| marcoscosmos | well yeah but then i have to use my muose to switch chats kaj, I'd rather either uses split windows in an ncurses clients or, open multiple terminals myself, since I'm using a TWM | 12:05 |
| marcoscosmos | Ah he left -_- | 12:06 |
| lordievader | Vim is awesome \o/ | 12:07 |
| BluesKaj | marcoscosmos, that was me on irssi | 12:07 |
| marcoscosmos | Yeah it looks promising but. | 12:07 |
| marcoscosmos | takes time to adapt | 12:07 |
| marcoscosmos | currently I like atom | 12:07 |
| marcoscosmos | use vim a bit | 12:07 |
| marcoscosmos | BluesKaj: Ah. | 12:08 |
| marcoscosmos | okay how do I make a right-split in irrsi | 12:08 |
| marcoscosmos | ? | 12:08 |
| BluesKaj | or more tabs? | 12:09 |
| marcoscosmos | I have more tabs, I want to split | 12:09 |
| lordievader | marcoscosmos: You know you can type multiline sentences on IRC? | 12:09 |
| marcoscosmos | I'm just gunna open a new window. Sorry, this is my natural typing pattern. My fingers move faster than my thoughts. I'll re-learn to bunch sentances if I'm reminded enough, lordievader | 12:10 |
| lordievader | 👍 | 12:11 |
| marcoscosmos | I'm not splitting up messages over lines, just, hitting enter as I finish a thought? | 12:11 |
| BluesKaj | marcoscosmos, I use yakuake , it splits, forget the gtk name for it tho | 12:12 |
| BluesKaj | ahh yes, guake | 12:13 |
| marcoscosmos | alright, I'll try it | 12:13 |
| marcoscosmos | I'll need to remember to uninstall the leftovers in the morning I guess | 12:14 |
| marcoscosmos | anyway, brb | 12:14 |
| marcoscosmos | wait, I know this | 12:14 |
| marcoscosmos | Wait what do mean by it splits? | 12:14 |
| BluesKaj | splits left right, or top to bottom | 12:20 |
| marcoscosmos | quake, the terminal? | 12:21 |
| marcoscosmos | or like, irrsi /in/ quake? | 12:21 |
| BluesKaj | a right click on the "shell" in the bottom left gives a dialog/context menu with options | 12:21 |
| marcoscosmos | because I can just just make new windows | 12:22 |
| marcoscosmos | I use a tiling window manager | 12:22 |
| BluesKaj | i3 would work I guess | 12:22 |
| marcoscosmos | BSPWM in my case | 12:22 |
| marcoscosmos | I should probably give i3 a proper go eventually | 12:23 |
| BluesKaj | oh forgot you're on windows | 12:23 |
| marcoscosmos | No? | 12:23 |
| BluesKaj | ok | 12:23 |
| marcoscosmos | That was jink IIRC | 12:23 |
| marcoscosmos | I'm actually on arch-linux xD | 12:23 |
| BluesKaj | ok, my mistake | 12:25 |
| * oerheks waiting for i4 | 12:25 | |
| BluesKaj | bbiab | 12:35 |
| marcoscosmos | oerheks: wait is i3 actually a successor to something? | 12:40 |
| ducasse | i3 is the successor to wmii | 12:43 |
| pauljw | hi everyone | 12:52 |
| ducasse | \o pauljw - everything well? | 12:53 |
| pauljw | hi ducasse, all good here, thx. you? | 12:54 |
| marcoscosmos | O drr ducasse | 12:54 |
| marcoscosmos | ... Oh ok*? | 12:55 |
| BluesKaj | Hi pauljw | 12:55 |
| BluesKaj | Hi ducasse | 12:55 |
| lordievader | Hey pauljw | 12:57 |
| pauljw | hi BluesKaj, lordievader :) | 12:58 |
| pauljw | hey EriC^^ | 12:58 |
| EriC^^ | hey pauljw :) | 12:58 |
| pauljw | :) | 12:58 |
| BluesKaj | Hi EriC^^ | 12:59 |
| EriC^^ | hey BluesKaj | 13:15 |
| oerheks | lolz, that V7 runs debian, but continues asking in ubuntu :-D | 13:16 |
| oerheks | or he fools anybody, and does run a fork like mint | 13:16 |
| lordievader | That would be fun. If he runs Mint, claims he runs Debian and asks questions in #ubuntu. | 13:17 |
| pauljw | :) | 13:18 |
| BluesKaj | oerheks, seems that V7 guy is on his phone atm, according to his "version" | 13:19 |
| BluesKaj | lordievader, his nick isn't listed in #debian | 13:22 |
| lordievader | BluesKaj: I was talking hypothetical 😉 | 13:23 |
| BluesKaj | mayne they kicked him from debian, some of the ops are really pedantic and overly strict | 13:25 |
| BluesKaj | maybe | 13:25 |
| oerheks | he is more active in ##linux, with the debian story | 13:26 |
| BluesKaj | yeah i see him there | 13:26 |
| oerheks | wait for it... | 13:27 |
| oerheks | :-D | 13:27 |
| oerheks | no, it should run @ 800 mhz | 13:27 |
| EriC^^ | !ping | 14:51 |
| ubot5 | pong! | 14:51 |
| oerheks | yay ... | 16:26 |
| oerheks | Changes for intel-microcode versions: | 16:26 |
| oerheks | Installed version: 3.20180108.0~ubuntu17.10.1 | 16:26 |
| oerheks | Available version: 3.20180108.0+really20170707ubuntu17.10.1 | 16:26 |
| hggdh | yes, we are downgrading the microcode | 16:28 |
| oerheks | but i had no issues, at least i think | 16:28 |
| hggdh | neither did I. But Intel found more and more processors were prone to error | 16:29 |
| hggdh | in other words: Although Intel had much more time to fix the issues, they failed | 16:30 |
| hggdh | (really, as expected, this type of change is not a trivial change) | 16:30 |
| oerheks | and 4.15 gets a rc9 stage | 16:30 |
| hggdh | yep :-) | 16:30 |
| oerheks | oke, i am updated .. now waiting for a laptop with core2duo to be dropped by | 16:31 |
| oerheks | not sure it is 32 or 64 bit, we'll see | 16:31 |
| Bashing-om | nacc: IRT Docfxit forum post https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2383068&p=13733033#post13733033 refers . OP has no clue what he is doing .. Gentle hands :) | 19:05 |
| nacc | Bashing-om: ah | 19:06 |
| tomreyn | hi | 19:09 |
| tomreyn | do you agree that packages.ubuntu.com is stale? the https://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/linux-image-generic package is apparently on version 4.4.0.109.114 since january 10 when https://usn.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-3522-3/ was released | 19:10 |
| nacc | tomreyn: that is the version in -security and -updates | 19:11 |
| nacc | tomreyn: what do you think is stale? | 19:11 |
| tomreyn | nacc: the version info provided on the website | 19:12 |
| tomreyn | on packages.ubuntu.com | 19:12 |
| nacc | i'm looking atit | 19:12 |
| nacc | it's correct? | 19:12 |
| nacc | tomreyn: what *specifically* do you think is wrong? | 19:12 |
| tomreyn | for me https://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/linux-image-generic says the latest pakage version is 4.4.0.104.109 | 19:12 |
| nacc | tomreyn: oh! i totally misread the number :) | 19:13 |
| nacc | yeah that's weird | 19:13 |
| tomreyn | took me a while to realise it, too | 19:13 |
| tomreyn | thanks for confirming | 19:14 |
| nacc | i *think* you can file bugs on it | 19:14 |
| nacc | (p.u.c. itself) | 19:14 |
| tomreyn | alejdg is already looking into it in #canonical-sysadmin thankfully | 19:14 |
| nacc | ah nice | 19:14 |
| nacc | i'd assume it's a buggy cronjob | 19:14 |
| * tomreyn suspects another mechanism broken during meltdown patching | 19:15 | |
| tomreyn | so many things to monitor ;) | 19:15 |
| nacc | i know a lot of infra was disabled for a while, so i'd imagine that, yeah | 19:16 |
| nacc | and it's possible this might be an untested path :) | 19:16 |
| tomreyn | it gets out of date regularly | 19:16 |
| tomreyn | but not more than a day or two usually, i think | 19:17 |
| nacc | right | 19:17 |
| oerheks | https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=does+tux+have+babies | 22:23 |
| Bashing-om | oerheks: Look'n - I can use a smile about now :) | 22:25 |
| oerheks | nope :-( | 22:25 |
| Bashing-om | oerheks: babies ... Garunteeed to put a smile on the face :) | 22:29 |
| daftykins | not for me ;) | 22:29 |
| Bashing-om | daftykins: Must be running scared ...lol | 22:30 |
| JanC | hm, I didn't know this before, but apparently Bednet is based on Ubuntu | 23:05 |
| JanC | https://bednet.be/bednet-english | 23:05 |
| === kostkon_ is now known as kostkon | ||
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