[02:34] <Trevinho> duflu: mh, I've no idea in how reproducing https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1745070
[02:35] <duflu> Trevinho, yeah weird. It's only my desktop. Not on a fully updated laptop
[02:35] <Trevinho> it's like it's not getting the atom from xorg
[02:35] <duflu> Also I got it to look right *once* and then on the next login it was broken again
[02:42] <duflu> Wayland works fine if I log into that one first. Then it's broken if I try again (after Xorg)
[02:46] <duflu> Trevinho, if nobody confirms it I might have to reinstall this machine. It's been hacked for mutter/gnome-shell testing in the past
[03:27] <duflu> RAOF: Do you know anything about mesa-demos/mesa-utils? I was waiting for a fix but it hasn't had any upstream releases for 2 years
[03:27] <duflu> https://cgit.freedesktop.org/mesa/demos/
[03:34] <RAOF> duflu: I'm not surprised it hasn't seen any releases; the code is super-simple.
[03:34] <RAOF> What bug have you seen?
[03:34] <duflu> RAOF: Remember wayland gears 40FPS?
[03:34] <duflu> The fix landed in July
[03:35] <RAOF> Oh, hah.
[03:41] <RAOF> Well, it's nobody's priority.
[03:50] <duflu> RAOF: Would it be inappropriate to snapshot git for bionic?
[03:50] <RAOF> Not at all.
[06:54] <oSoMoN> good morning desktoppers
[07:03] <seb128> good morning desktopers
[07:03] <seb128> salut oSoMoN, ça va bien ?
[07:04] <oSoMoN> seb128, salut! pas très bien dormi, mais on a connu pire… et toi, ça va?
[07:04] <seb128> ouais, réveillé trop tôt mais sinon ça va
[07:05] <jibel> good morning
[07:06] <oSoMoN> salut jibel
[07:07] <jibel> salut oSoMoN
[07:09] <duflu> salut oSoMoN, seb128, jibel
[07:09] <seb128> hey hey hey
[07:14] <oSoMoN> salut duflu
[07:30] <didrocks> good morning
[08:30] <duflu> And hi didrocks
[08:53] <flexiondotorg> Morning desktopers
[08:54] <didrocks> hey flexiondotorg!
[08:56] <seb128> hey flexiondotorg
[08:58] <duflu> Morning flexiondotorg
[09:01] <Laney> moin
[09:03] <duflu> Morning Laney
[09:04] <koza> jibel, seb128, are you guys joining bt mtg?
[09:04] <koza> and morning :)
[09:07] <seb128> koza, sorry since will is not there I assumed we were skipping
[09:07] <seb128> hey Laney
[09:08] <jibel> koza, sorry I missed the notification. Are you still in the meeting?
[09:08] <didrocks> morning Laney
[09:08] <didrocks> & jibel
[09:08] <jibel> hi didrocks
[09:34] <duflu> jibel, for future reference, user bugs shouldn't be assigned to 'wayland'. That package just contains protocol stuff for developers really. Most wayland session bugs have nothing to do with the 'wayland' package
[09:35] <duflu> So they are gnome-shell or mutter bugs
[09:56] <jibel> duflu, how do you tag bugs that happen only on wayland?
[09:56] <duflu> jibel, 'wayland' or 'wayland-session'
[09:57] <jibel> wayland-session is automatically added by apport if the bug report is sent from a wayland session
[09:57] <jibel> so there are tons of it and it doesn't really mean anything
[09:57] <jibel> ah, you were referring to the chrome bug
[09:57] <duflu> jibel, yeah I noticed that so use wayland-session now. It's often helpful to explain more about the bug
[09:58] <jibel> yeah, it was assigned xorg with is not correct either
[09:58] <duflu> jibel, also gnome-shell bugs are being reported against xorg and xorg-server but I ignore half of those... already subscribed to too much bug traffic
[10:09] <andyrock> good morning
[10:10] <andyrock> seb128: I found a way to use gnome-online-accounts for sso
[10:10] <seb128> hey andyrock
[10:10] <seb128> andyrock, oh, nice, how?
[10:11] <andyrock> it requires some patches upstream (to build python bindings for goa-backend=
[10:11] <seb128> those don't exist yet?
[10:11] <andyrock> not for goa-backend
[10:11] <seb128> k
[10:12] <andyrock> goa-backend is required to make software-properties (or the installer) to prompt
[10:12] <andyrock> so if an account does not exists yet we can prompt a login dialog
[10:13] <andyrock> the only major problem I see know is how to feed the keys that we in the installer into the user session
[10:13] <andyrock> apart from the fact that xenial does not have gnome-online-account
[10:14] <andyrock> *i see now
[10:17] <seb128> right, let's focus on the right solution for bionic first though
[11:22] <GunnarHj> Hey seb128, did you see my ping about fcitx-libpinyin yesterday? Is it something you can help with?
[11:22] <GunnarHj> https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2018/01/23/%23ubuntu-desktop.html#t16:27
[11:53] <willcooke> Hi all, back home
[11:56] <didrocks> wb willcooke!
[11:57] <oSoMoN> hey willcooke
[11:58]  * willcooke needs to have 6 teeth out.  4 wisdom teeth, and 2 bottoms ones next to the wisdom teeth because they've been wrecked by the wisdom teeth.
[11:58] <willcooke> Go to the dentists more than once every 20 years kids!
[12:01] <didrocks> willcooke: urgh on the extra 2 bottom ones :/
[12:01] <didrocks> willcooke: do you have an appointment for extracting them?
[12:02] <oSoMoN> ouch
[12:07] <Laney> whoops
[12:07] <Laney> that's a hospital one I guess?
[12:07] <willcooke> Yeah
[12:08] <willcooke> This was a consultancy to talk through whats going on
[12:08] <willcooke> and now I just wait for an appointment
[12:08] <willcooke> some months I expect
[12:08] <willcooke> The Dr said it should be fairly straight forward though
[12:08] <willcooke> fingers crossed
[12:08] <Laney> string + door
[12:09] <chrisccoulson> I'd have my bottom ones out again if I could. Just for the drugs
[12:09] <willcooke> heheh
[12:09] <chrisccoulson> :)
[12:10] <willcooke> I opted for local only, perhaps that wasnt wise
[12:10] <chrisccoulson> willcooke, I had local only, but they pumped me fullof midazolam
[12:10] <chrisccoulson> so I didn't care too much
[12:10] <willcooke> woot, hope I get some of that too
[12:15] <didrocks> just ask for one tooth per visit :p
[12:15] <didrocks> and space them with few days in between
[12:47] <seb128> hey GunnarHj, I saw but didn't have time to look at that yet
[12:48] <GunnarHj> seb128: Ok, no urgency, but can you please put it on your list.
[12:48] <seb128> yes
[12:48] <seb128> did you check if those binaries have rdepends or if they can be removed without more work?
[12:49] <GunnarHj> seb128: No.. Will get back about it.
[12:49] <seb128> thanks
[13:01] <GunnarHj> seb128: We are talking about fcitx-libpinyin and fcitx-libpinyin-dbgsym in bionic ppc64el/s390x. No reverse depends as far as I can see.
[13:01] <seb128> GunnarHj, thanks for checking
[14:40] <jbicha> didrocks: could you promote orca to main and remove source gnome-orca?
[14:40] <jbicha> also you can try promoting fonts-noto-color-emoji to main now
[14:41] <didrocks> jbicha: was there a source rename for orca? (something to track/get the details ?)
[14:44] <jibel> kenvandine, everything's good with gnome-software in xenial-proposed
[14:50] <GunnarHj> seb128: I opened translations for and changed focus to bionic. Hope that's ok.
[14:50] <GunnarHj> I see that a full language pack has been built:
[14:50] <GunnarHj> https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/bionic/+language-packs
[14:54] <seb128> GunnarHj, you have the power to open translations? I though that was done by the launchpad team?
[14:55] <seb128> GunnarHj, in any case sure, sounds good to me, we discussed langpacks yesterday on this channel
[14:56] <didrocks> missed opportunity seb128, you should have said: "oh, ensure you ping sil2100 about it, he's the new langpack master victim" ;)
[14:57] <seb128> didrocks, that's right :)
[15:03] <kenvandine> jibel, awesome, thanks!
[15:07] <sil2100> heh ;)
[15:07] <sil2100> Yeah, will get to that soon
[15:10] <GunnarHj> Well, I have the power to "unhide" it here:
[15:10] <GunnarHj> https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/bionic/+translations-admin
[15:10] <GunnarHj> Think it's because I'm member of ~ubuntu-translations-coordinators.
[15:10] <GunnarHj> Reviewed yesterday's IRC log. Has sil2100 taken over it from you?
[15:11] <GunnarHj> seb128: ^
[15:12]  * Laney cries
[15:12] <Laney> xnox: do you know how to spy on messages on systemd's private bus?
[15:12] <sil2100> I didn't want to, I did that by accident
[15:12] <Laney> I want to look at what systemd-run does but it doesn't use the normal session/system bus
[15:13] <seb128> GunnarHj, seems so yes
[15:14] <seb128> didrocks, sorry about the trello board, dnd has been unreliable for me for some reason, dropping the card I was moving on the way and picking the one which was under at this time to finish the dnd
[15:19] <didrocks> seb128: no pb :)
[15:30] <Laney> ah maybe xnox is off
[15:30] <Laney> pitti: ^--- don't suppose you've ever done that before?
[15:30] <Laney> & hey :-)
[15:31] <pitti> Laney: hey! ah, I'm afraid not, other than "strace" - the normal dbus-monitor wouldn't work
[15:32] <Laney> indeed
[15:32] <Laney> just wondered if there was some trick
[15:32] <pitti> I think systemd-run needs some extra API that the normal dbus doesn't provide; it's not just an accident/bug
[15:32] <Laney> looking at the code it feels like normal dbus
[15:32]  * Laney sucks and can't get StartTransientUnit to work
[15:32] <Laney> Error: GDBus.Error:System.Error.ENXIO: No such device or address
[15:33] <Laney> THANKS LENNART
[15:34] <Laney> back in a minute, mexican three bean wrap is calling
[15:37] <seb128> kenvandine, do you know what's the status of https://trello.com/c/Taa8Urjo/63-bug1661590-support-multiple-apps-in-a-snap ? it feels like the card could deserve an update, it's "in progress"  for a long time with no activity
[15:39] <seb128> tkamppeter, hey, I reviewed the common printing dialogs new packages and accepted them
[15:40] <kenvandine> seb128, i'll find out, thx
[15:40] <jbicha> didrocks: yes, gnome-orca source was renamed to orca, but there's no bug report for it
[15:40] <seb128> kenvandine, thanks
[15:41] <jibel> mdeslaur, do you know when update-notifier from xenial-proposed will be copied to the security pocket? (if it's still the plan)
[15:42] <mdeslaur> jibel: I'm not sure...I assume the SRU team is waiting the 7-day waiting period before releasing it
[15:43] <jibel> okay, one more day then
[15:43] <mdeslaur> jibel: if they don't release it in the next couple of days, ping them?
[15:43] <mdeslaur> ping me if there's an issue
[15:44] <seb128> kenvandine, also https://trello.com/c/5x2jLgX0/138-support-snap-channels could do with a status update I guess?
[15:44] <jibel> mdeslaur, yes, thanks
[15:45] <didrocks> jbicha: mind filing something so that we track it?
[15:51] <jbicha> didrocks: hmm, is LP: #1739917 close enough?
[15:52] <didrocks> jbicha: ah, sounds good!
[15:54] <didrocks> jbicha: the orca new binary package stays in universe, correct?
[15:55] <didrocks> "On second thought, I guess this bug is a bit unnecessary since the 'orca' binary package will need to be manually promoted to main anyway.
[15:55] <didrocks> "
[15:55] <didrocks> hum
[15:55] <didrocks> anyway, orca binary package is already in main
[15:56] <didrocks> jbicha: done: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/orca/+bug/1739917/comments/2
[15:57] <seb128> didrocks, yeah, I bin NEWed to main when I reviewed it since it was replacing a package in main
[15:57] <didrocks> oki, sounds good!
[15:59] <jbicha> 🤠
[16:33] <jbicha> https://community.ubuntu.com/t/removal-of-headerbar-patches-and-impact-on-unity/1456/31
[16:46] <mdeslaur> argh, I keep clicking on notifications by mistake
[16:52] <mdeslaur> having them in the middle is a pita...on os x they appear on the right, a distance away from the window buttons, and the menu
[16:52] <mdeslaur> but there's no place to put them where they don't get in the way when the menus are inside the window, or worse in the headerbar, and the window decorations are on the right
[16:54] <jbicha> I don't understand. Wouldn't the middle be the spot you're least likely to accidentally click?
[16:54] <mdeslaur> not really, I have windows there
[16:54] <mdeslaur> when I have a window to the left of my screen, the window buttons are in the middle
[16:55] <mdeslaur> when I have a window to the right of my screen, the menu is in the middle
[16:55] <jbicha> I think the solution is to just make the headerbars larger! 🙃
[16:56] <mdeslaur> sure, if you make them take up half the screen, then notifications will have plenty of room ;P
[17:02] <jbicha> oh and then there's a ninja edit "but wait"
[17:20] <Laney> laney@nightingale> gdbus call --session --dest org.freedesktop.systemd1 --object-path /org/freedesktop/systemd1 --method org.freedesktop.systemd1.Manager.StartTransientUnit "laney.timer" "fail" "[('OnActiveSec', <@t 10>)]" "[]"
[17:20] <Laney> (objectpath '/org/freedesktop/systemd1/job/7505',)
[17:20] <Laney> yay, finally
[17:20] <jbicha> 🙌
[17:21] <Laney> it was the @t I was missing
[17:58] <oSoMoN> ricotz, just FYI, the LO autopkgtest failures I mentioned the other day are due to https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=115208
[18:13] <willcooke> night all, see you tomorrow
[18:21] <ricotz> oSoMoN, thanks
[18:54] <oSoMoN> good night
[23:02] <jdstrand> kenvandine: hey, I'm not sure if you saw, but mvo and I were discussing the xdg-settings pr. I advocated on behalf of you and will to have it in 2.31, but they are trying to cut 2.31 soon (it is rc1), so you might want to chat with Will if you want it in
[23:02] <jdstrand> (with Will to chat with mvo)
[23:02] <kenvandine[m][m]> jdstrand: thx
[23:03] <jdstrand> kenvandine[m][m]: afaic, it is quite close. I just had a couple of small things
[23:03] <kenvandine[m][m]> Ok, I'll talk to him