[17:23] <lotuspsychje> !info firefox
[17:25] <lotuspsychje> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/1690541
[17:25] <lotuspsychje> still happening on bionic here
[18:12] <flocculant> lotuspsychje: I gave up saying anything anywhere about the update-manager bug ... I am affected if I use the tool, though that rarely happens tbh
[18:13] <lotuspsychje> flocculant: tool?
[18:13] <flocculant> update-manager
[18:13] <lotuspsychje> ah kk
[18:14] <lotuspsychje> well no sweat mate, itl get fixxed one day lol
[18:15] <flocculant> at one point it was fixed iirc - at least I didn't see it 
[18:15] <lotuspsychje> still happens on my side this morning
[18:15] <flocculant> tbh - I only use it to make sure it works - mostly I apt or synaptic
[18:15] <flocculant> lotuspsychje: oh yea - still happens here - at least the other day it did
[18:16] <flocculant> there are some update-manager upgrades in -proposed iirc
[18:16] <lotuspsychje> cool
[18:16] <lotuspsychje> im also happy about systemd going to be tweaked
[18:16]  * flocculant looks
[18:16] <lotuspsychje> i was talking about it with TJ- last time
[18:16] <flocculant> tweaked?
[18:17] <lotuspsychje> like braille service, regular user doesnt need right?
[18:17] <flocculant> not imo
[18:18] <flocculant> doesn't appear to be anything re the update-manager bug there though
[18:18] <lotuspsychje> kk
[18:19] <lotuspsychje> flocculant: with tweaked i mean this http://news.softpedia.com/news/canonical-says-ubuntu-18-04-lts-bionic-beaver-will-come-with-boot-speed-boost-519498.shtml
[18:19] <flocculant> oh right that - yea read that 
[18:22] <flocculant> we might get some benefit from that
[18:22] <lotuspsychje> yeah im sure
[18:23] <flocculant> on the other hand a recent update to lightdm has us now having a default wallpaper at login rather than the user wallpaper we had previously
[18:23] <flocculant> so I'm never sure whether good things will propogate to other flavours till I've checked :D
[18:23] <lotuspsychje> ah
[18:24] <flocculant> such is life - probably need to report that so robert ancell knows
[18:25] <lotuspsychje> kk
[18:50] <BLZbubba> hi guys, arguably the most important improvement you can make to the adoption of ubuntu is getting xrdp to work out of the box.  how well is this going in bionic?
[18:50] <nacc> lol
[18:50] <lotuspsychje> oO
[18:53] <BLZbubba> i've never seen the windows guy on our team so happy as when he realized it was possible to use remote desktop instead of putty.  but it is a nightmare to configure on ubuntu currently
[18:54] <lotuspsychje> BLZbubba: ubuntu 18.04 has remmina by default here
[18:54] <lotuspsychje> !info remmina
[18:54] <nacc> lotuspsychje: does that work with wayland? just X, right?
[18:55] <lotuspsychje> didnt test it yet nacc 
[18:55] <nacc> ok
[18:55] <lotuspsychje> just seen the icon in my list
[18:55] <BLZbubba> no that is the opposite
[18:55] <BLZbubba> ubuntu needs to listen on 3389 out of the box and let rdp clients connect easily
[19:25] <lotuspsychje> dax: seen this mate? https://insights.ubuntu.com/2018/01/24/meltdown-spectre-and-ubuntu-what-you-need-to-know/