[00:00] <johnnyb> TJ-: so when I return, install the signed version in chroot?
[00:00] <TJ-> johnnyb: I'll be off to bed, it's midnight here, but you're very close. The key is to install "grub-efi-amd64-signed" into the chroot env (make sure to do "mount -a" when you enter the chroot for the 1st time
[00:00] <johnnyb> Great! I appreciate all of your help and the late night!
[00:00] <johnnyb> go get some rest!
[00:00] <TJ-> johnnyb: "mount -a" required to mount the EFI system partition to /boot/efi/
[00:01] <TJ-> johnnyb: and maybe it's worth doing "grep efi /etc/fstab" and ensure there's an entry in there to mount it! Seeing as the system seems a bit messed up
[00:02] <johnnyb> TJ-: Is there a way I can keep a log of this convo for when I return?
[00:02] <TJ-> johnnyb: you should see something like "UUID=xxxxxx /boot/efi vfat ..."
[00:02] <TJ-> !logs
[00:03] <johnnyb> TJ-: Thanks again to you and nacc
[00:03] <johnnyb> Have a great night.
[00:12] <elisa87> I used to be able to see my Website running in the Amazon EC2 by browsing to the public DNS in my browser. Now, when I do it after having the instance up and running, I get this https://imgur.com/a/1lCk0 how do you think I should approach this first?
[00:15] <nacc> elisa87: i assume you meant public IP not DNS?
[00:15] <nacc> elisa87: what changed? it looks like no website is configured
[00:19] <ChetManly> https://shapeshed.com/auto-update-an-ubuntu-server-with-aptitude/
[00:19] <nacc> ChetManly: is that a question?
[00:19] <ChetManly> coming
[00:20] <nacc> ChetManly: i'm not sure i'd consider an article written almost 10 years ago to be useful
[00:20] <nacc> ChetManly: and the modern solution to this problem is unattended-upgrades
[00:21] <ChetManly> I know all the mumbojumbo about apt-get but ignore that for a minute. I want to be able to auto aptitiude
[00:21] <nacc> ChetManly: why?
[00:21] <nacc> ChetManly: and what do you mean 'auto aptitude'?
[00:22] <ChetManly> various reasons one of them being I have not had to reinstall in ages since I ditched apt-get
[00:22] <ChetManly> I dont want to start a war either
[00:23] <ChetManly> I just want to know if I have to use crontab and if I sudo crontab that will run as root
[00:24] <ChetManly> I juist want to run a modified version of the script as a cron job
[00:24] <nacc> ChetManly: to support you, i'd have to read that page, written 10 years ago and decide if what they say is right; that's not really useful IMO, as there is already a tooll that does what the subject of that article says.
[00:25] <nacc> use unattended-upgrades and be done with it
[00:28] <ChetManly> that wasnt the answer I was lookimg for  thanks anyway
[00:29] <nacc> ChetManly: ok, to answer your question ... the article says to use a cronntab, so use a crontab
[00:30] <nacc> ChetManly: wel, actually it says to put it in cron.daily
[00:30] <nacc> so just do that?
[00:30] <ChetManly> yeah it doesnt work
[00:30] <nacc> ChetManly: i don't know, at all, why you are asking what you are -- you want to follow the article's guide, but then question the guide?
[00:30] <nacc> ChetManly: what doesn't work?
[00:30] <ChetManly> system isnt updated
[00:31] <kenrin> So run the commands manually and find out what isn't working
[00:31] <nacc> ChetManly: ... what did you try? did you put in cron.dailY?
[00:31] <ChetManly> yep
[00:31] <nacc> ChetManly: if you did, has cron.daily run? (it only runs once a day)
[00:32] <ChetManly> welll its been days
[00:32] <kenrin> I like how the guide says to name it autoupdate.sh but has you mv autoupdate
[00:32] <nacc> ChetManly: ok, do you see cron.daily running?
[00:32] <nacc> kenrin: lol, i didn't bother to read the article, again, due to its age.
[00:32] <nacc> :)
[00:33] <kenrin> Eh I didn't read the article,  just the script
[00:33] <ChetManly> SOMEONE spilt in my keyboard bear with me
[00:33] <ChetManly> ...
[00:34] <kenrin> I'm not exactly sure what the safe-upgrade does.  I assume it doesn't autoremove stuff ?
[00:34] <ChetManly> cron is daily automattically isnt
[00:34] <nacc> kenrin: it appears it does
[00:34] <nacc> kenrin: it is more like 'upgrade + autoremove', it seems?
[00:34] <nacc> (based upon manpage)
[00:35] <nacc> kenrin: aptitude also has the full-upgrade option, which is allowed to also remove packages to upgrade others
[00:35] <nacc> ChetManly: which cron? cron.daily?
[00:35] <ChetManly> works wonderfully
[00:35] <ChetManly> yes
[00:35] <nacc> ChetManly: yes, cron.daily runs .. daily
[00:35] <nacc> ChetManly: did you follow the page exactly, or did you see the same error kenrin pointed out?
[00:35] <ChetManly> you want me to check logs to see if its run
[00:35] <nacc> ChetManly: yes
[00:35] <nacc> ChetManly: as we are not at your system to debug it
[00:37] <ChetManly> the error wasnt the issue
[00:37] <ChetManly> I noticed it too
[00:38] <ChetManly> Im thinking it cannot run since it is root
[00:39] <nacc> ChetManly: hrm?
[00:39] <nacc> ChetManly: what cannot run?
[00:39] <kenrin> But all the crons run as root from the cron folders...
[00:39] <ChetManly> oh
[00:40] <ChetManly> run-parts --test /etc/cron.daily ?
[00:41] <ChetManly> ya when I run that the script isnt showing
[00:42] <kenrin> Do you see the script under /etc/cron.daily ?  is it executable?
[00:42] <ChetManly> I bet it is the .sh
[00:42] <kenrin> .sh shouldn't matter
[00:43] <ChetManly> cause nothing else in the directory ends like that
[00:43] <kenrin> I could name a script bob.taco and it'll run
[00:43] <ChetManly> I didnt think so either
[00:43] <nacc> just as long as its executabel
[00:43] <nacc> unix doesn't care about file extensions, generally
[00:44] <ChetManly> autoupdate.sh: Bourne-Again shell script, ASCII text
[00:44] <ChetManly> shit
[00:44] <ChetManly> autoupdate.sh: Bourne-Again shell script, ASCII text executable
[00:44] <kenrin> There ya go
[00:45] <ChetManly> what
[00:46] <nacc> ChetManly: what release are you onn?
[00:46] <ChetManly> 16.04
[00:46] <nacc> ChetManly: and you're sure there are updates pending? runninng the script manually shows there are?
[00:47] <ChetManly> 10 pkgs to update
[00:48] <ChetManly> Jan 24 09:17:01 965 CRON[1504]: (root) CMD (   cd / && run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly)
[00:48] <ChetManly> Jan 24 10:17:01 965 CRON[2309]: (root) CMD (   cd / && run-parts --report /etc/cron.hourly)
[00:50] <ChetManly> shot thats hourly
[00:52] <CuriousErnestBro> hello
[00:55] <ChetManly> Unlike some other systems like RedHat/Fedora/etc, run-parts under Debian or Ubuntu systems will ignore files with dots or most other characters in their name, meaning some or all of your scripts in run-parts folders such as /etc/cron.daily will not be run. For example /etc/cron.daily/backup.sh will never be run with the default way that /etc/crontab is set up.
[00:55] <ChetManly> ...gah
[00:55] <kenrin> Woah really?  I need to test that
[00:58] <kenrin> Yep it doesn't recognize
[00:59] <CuriousErnestBro> snap is so weird
[00:59] <CuriousErnestBro> gotta copy .desktop files to ~/.local/applications for editing
[00:59] <ChetManly> kenrin: how do I run cron.daily right  now
[00:59] <CuriousErnestBro> and then there's a useless .desktop file in the /snap/ directory
[01:04] <ChetManly> kenrin: nm
[01:04] <ChetManly> yay its working
[01:04] <ChetManly> me happy
[01:05] <ChetManly> thanks nacc kenrin
[01:07] <ChetManly> crontab can go fly a kite :-)
[01:19] <texla> How to correct grub rescue
[01:20] <kenrin> What do you mean correct
[01:33] <Quenz> When a "system program problem detected" dialog comes up, the log for that problem should be in /var/crash. Is that right?
[01:35] <texla> kerin Grub rescue problem with partition
[01:38] <QuenzOnGnome> In any case, I do have a crash log here. Could anyone take a look at it for me? http://paste.ubuntu.com/26455381/
[01:40] <Zombie> Does anyone know how to get libuser-ldap on Ubuntu 16.04
[02:04] <ChetManly> if I want to check for maleware or rootkit I can run whatever app from the live disk but I would have to mount the local hdds right and wouldnt this cause issue in the scanner as it would likely try to read the live disk instead?
[02:20] <Juthien> So I take it from the topic that 17.04 support is non existent?
[02:20] <Bashing-om> !17.04 | Juthien
[02:21] <Juthien> What happened the 17.04 that 14.04 and 16.04 are supported, but not 17.04? (instead, 17.10 is)
[02:21] <kenrin> 17.04 isn't a LTR ?
[02:21] <Bashing-om> !release | Juthien
[02:22] <tatertotz> QuenzOnGnome: hi
[02:22] <Juthien> I know the release cycle for the releases, i've been using ubuntu for a while. now (since 13). 14.04 and 16.04 were both LTS? I could've swore the release model was x.04 was the non-lts and the .10 was the LTS
[02:22] <Quenz> tatertotz Hello
[02:22] <tatertotz> QuenzOnGnome: soory wrong  nick
[02:22] <Bashing-om> Juthien: 14.04, 16.04 and to be 18,04 are Long Term support releases .
[02:23] <Juthien> So since it's no longer supported, does that mean all the repositories are now offline?
[02:23] <Bashing-om> Juthien: even numbered --- 14 16 18 be LTS .
[02:23] <tatertotz> Quenz: you looking for stuff like this http://termbin.com/lx99 ? yes or no
[02:24] <Juthien> err, that's dumb. I can't use 17.10 because it's using packages newer than some of the stuff I need to use.
[02:24] <kenrin> Maybe you need to use 16.04 then
[02:24] <Juthien> 16.04 has them too old.
[02:24] <kenrin> Can always manually upgrade
[02:25] <Juthien> No thanks, I'm not going to manually upgrade 30 dependencies to meet the needs of one application. I'll use another distro that has a longer shelf-life.
[02:25] <kenrin> Well I meant PPAs,  but sure
[02:25] <Juthien> That would mean tracking down possibly 30 different PPAs that work
[02:28] <Quenz> tatertotz I'm not sure what that is. I'm generally no good at reading logs at this point.
[02:29] <tatertotz> Quenz: you don't need to be good at reading logs, you just have to be good at communicating with me my friend :)
[02:29] <Quenz> tatertotz You asked if I'm looking for stuff like this http://termbin.com/lx99 but I don't really know what that is, so I don't know.
[02:31] <tatertotz> Quenz: well let me help you along a bit
[02:31] <tatertotz> Quenz: just a few questions...you know our routine
[02:34] <vanderberng> morning
[02:34] <Menzador> ey mate, what's up? Please ask your question
[02:35] <tatertotz> Quenz: baseline....right now..you're not complaining about much since recovering from http://termbin.com/azdn
[02:35] <vanderberng> who Menzador
[02:35] <tatertotz> Quenz: just stay with me...all i do is connect dots...you may not see %100 of them...but odds are..you will see at least 1
[02:37] <Menzador> vanderberng - are you trying to whois me?
[02:37] <Quenz> tatertotz That's right, I fixed the issue in http://termbin.com/azdn
[02:37] <tatertotz> Quenz: I like helping you..do you like me helping you?..funny that some observer(s) are under the impression that we are having some "negative" exchange of idea(s)
[02:38] <tatertotz> Quenz: which couldn't be further from "the truth"
[02:38] <tatertotz> but oh well
[02:38] <Quenz> tatertotz Of course I appreciate your help. At times I have confused some things you've said as being frustrated or mad though
[02:39] <tatertotz> Quenz: realize i've done this for fortune 500 CEO's and I don't even get mad at them....and they deserve it
[02:40] <Quenz> Okie dokie
[02:46] <Taksist> Всем привет!
[02:59] <baimafeima> heard ubuntu's messing with the BIOS, is this all fixed now?
[03:04] <Thaelim> could someone tell me what i am doing wrong this script? - https://pastebin.com/EpEr3uxF
[03:04] <Bashing-om> !spectre | baimafeima
[03:06] <tatertotz> Quenz: :)
[03:06] <tatertotz> Quenz: want to ask me anything?...anything at all buddy :)
[03:07] <Quenz> tatertotz ...What the hell's that supposed to mean? I just send you the sosreport you requested. I'm still trying to sort out my issue. Where do we go from here?
[03:07] <tatertotz> Quenz: http://termbin.com/oxt2
[03:07] <tatertotz> Quenz: i'm just trying to help you sort it http://termbin.com/oxt2
[03:08] <Quenz> tatertotz Don't mean to sound mad, just confused by that message
[03:08] <Quenz> tatertotz And again, I'm not sure what this log means
[03:10] <johnnyb> I installed grub-efi-amd64-signed, but trying to boot grub gives me a signature error. I don't see a shimx64.efi file in /boot/efi
[03:11] <tatertotz> Quenz: you have a thread on the "official" ubuntu forums? true or false
[03:11] <Quenz> tatertotz true
[03:12] <tatertotz> Quenz: if i were you...i would take ALL the information i've dug up with you over the last few days..and post it in your thread...to help the community...PLEASE
[03:12] <darkcrimson> ^
[03:12] <tatertotz> Quenz: that's kinda why i've been helping you
[03:14] <tatertotz> Quenz: lots of times end uses post long paragraphs that don't have much "meat and potatoes" for engineers/architects to look at.....
[03:14] <tatertotz> Quenz: I will make you fat
[03:14] <Quenz> nice
[03:15] <tatertotz> Quenz: we still friends?....true or false
[03:15] <Quenz> tatertotz true
[03:15] <tatertotz> :)
[03:15] <Quenz> tatertotz I've updated my thread with three links https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2383374
[03:16] <tatertotz> Quenz: I want you to put ALL the data i share with you....in your thread
[03:16] <Quenz> tatertotz Will do
[03:16] <tatertotz> Quenz: how else will the next guy/gal that comes along know that they have your "exact" issue
[03:17] <Quenz> I understand
[03:17] <tatertotz> Quenz: and not "guess" or "think" they have your "exact" issue....
[03:17] <tatertotz> Quenz: but beyond  a reasonable doubt
[03:17] <tatertotz> :)
[03:18] <Quenz> What's the difference between purge and remove in apt?
[03:23] <tatertotz> Quenz: standby...still working on it but here's the quick and dirty version http://termbin.com/vkf3
[03:23] <Bashing-om> Quenz: remove: removes only the binary fikes in the event that there is to be a re-install of the app.. while purge also removes config files . Neither will touch files in your /home .
[03:24] <Bashing-om> fike/files*
[03:24] <tatertotz> Quenz: btw Jan 25 11:41:12 q-MacBookPro systemd[1]: snap.fancon.fancond.service: Unit entered failed state.
[03:24] <Taksist> Привет всем
[03:25] <Quenz> Is there a way to list all the things I've installed since the OS was installed? Basically non-default packages?
[03:25] <tatertotz> Quenz: is that what you want ? a list
[03:25] <tatertotz> Quenz: okie dokie
[03:26] <Quenz> I want to know what packages I've installed since installing the system
[03:26] <Quenz> So I can remove them
[03:26] <tatertotz> Quenz: standby
[03:26] <Quenz> Basically I want to go back to a more-or-less default state without reinstalling the whole OS, if I can
[03:28] <tatertotz> Quenz: http://termbin.com/ceqq7
[03:29] <Taksist> hi friends!
[03:31] <tatertotz> Quenz: does that work? yes or no
[03:38] <BlAd3RuNn3R> hi everyone
[03:39] <tatertotz> Quenz: do you see any "patters" when comparing to http://termbin.com/qreh ? yes or no
[03:39] <Quenz> Hold on a sec
[03:43] <Budgii> I went into keyboard shortcuts and I can make a custom one. There are 3 fields, "Name" "Command" and "Shortcut" the first and last are obvious, but what is acceptable as far as "command" goes?
[03:44] <Budgii> keyboard settings that is
[03:48] <Quenz> tatertotz I'd like to be able to know how to get the list by myself
[03:51] <tatertotz> Quenz: http://termbin.com/knwx
[03:52] <Quenz> tatertotz What's this?
[03:52] <zelozelos> i am following this to get x11vnc to run as a service, it continues to not be able to get the password, i can get a login but it cant authenticate, https://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/2334   any suggestions?
[03:53] <tatertotz> Quenz: the reason for the failures at the bottom of the previous link
[03:54] <Quenz> tatertotz The graphical error you mean?
[03:54] <tatertotz> Quenz: the green line?
[03:55] <Quenz> tatertotz Yeah. Is that what you're talking about?
[03:55] <tatertotz> Quenz: in terminal>    nvidia-smi &> ~/nip.pir
[03:56] <tatertotz> Quenz: let me know when done
[03:57] <Quenz> tatertotz done
[03:58] <tatertotz> Quenz: in terminal>    nvidia-settings &>> ~/nip.pir
[03:58] <tatertotz> Quenz: the utility opened. true or false
[03:58] <Quenz> tatertotz true
[03:59] <tatertotz> Quenz: check your temps..(deja vu yet :)  )
[03:59] <Quenz> tatertotz 56°C
[03:59] <tatertotz> Quenz: close it
[04:00] <tatertotz> Quenz: pastebinit ~/nip.pir
[04:00] <QuenzOnGnome> tatertotz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/26456013/
[04:00] <Quenz> I have to go get dinner now, back soon
[04:01] <tatertotz> Quenz: ok my friend
[04:09] <_kmh_> hi
[04:09] <_kmh_> i got a question regsd 3rd party drivers and uefi
[04:09] <_kmh_> why don't they work together?
[04:10] <_kmh_> and what are the exactly consequences of ignoring that?
[04:12] <tatertotz> Quenz: http://termbin.com/2pwd
[04:16] <tatertotz> Quenz: NVIDIA is not set to respect your did
[04:17] <tatertotz> Quenz: nothing against NVIDIA or anything...
[04:17] <tatertotz> Quenz: and without that i believe you will have some .....symptom(s)
[04:27] <orlock> Does the ubuntu installer provide an option to resize windows partitions/installations?
[04:28] <insidious> Is there software for on ubuntu for asus aura
[04:28] <insidious> ?
[04:29] <insidious> For the keybored software on the asus rog laptop?
[04:29] <rypervenche> orlock: You would be best doing that in an Windows environment.
[04:30] <orlock> rypervenche: I'm only asking becasue i'm sure it was available in the last installer i used
[04:30] <orlock> That was years ago however
[04:31] <rypervenche> orlock: Lucky for you there is documentation on this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowtoResizeWindowsPartitions
[04:34] <orlock> gparted's on the bootable image anyway
[04:35] <Quenz> tatertotz How do I set it correctly?
[04:35] <orlock> rypervenche: I'm not after the documentation, i'm wondering if my memories failing, or it is/was an installer option
[04:48] <tatertotz> Quenz: change the "mode"
[04:48] <Quenz> tatertotz In the nvidia utility?
[04:49] <Quenz> I'm not sure how to change the mode
[04:49] <tatertotz> Quenz: http://termbin.com/wog3
[04:49] <Quenz> tatertotz
[04:49] <Quenz> Oops
[04:50] <Quenz> tatertotz "nvidia-auto-select" in terminal, then?
[04:50] <tatertotz> Quenz: [    37.428] (==) NVIDIA(0): No modes were requested; the default mode "nvidia-auto-select"
[04:50] <Quenz> I'm still not sure how to set this mode
[05:01] <tatertotz> Quenz: if people that found your thread noticed a "pattern" such as they had the same computer model#....it may be helpful  http://termbin.com/tk4e
[05:02] <Quenz> Updated
[05:04] <tatertotz> Quenz: looks like one guy in the thread is claiming to have the "same problem".....i wonder if its really the "same" lol
[05:06] <tatertotz> Quenz: i bet you'll know if it's the same or not
[05:08] <Quenz> I'm not sure
[05:12] <tatertotz> Quenz: man nvidia-settings &>> ~/nip.pir
[05:12] <tatertotz> Quenz: let me know when done
[05:13] <Quenz> done
[05:13] <Quenz> tatertotz
[05:13] <tatertotz> Quenz: pastebinit ~/nip.pir
[05:14] <QuenzOnGnome> http://paste.ubuntu.com/26456303/ tatertotz
[05:15] <tatertotz> Quenz: nvidia-settings -q all &>> ~/nip.pir
[05:15] <tatertotz> Quenz: let me know when done
[05:16] <Quenz> done
[05:16] <Quenz> tatertotz
[05:16] <tatertotz> Quenz: pastebinit ~/nip.pir
[05:18] <cfhowlett> !ping
[05:19] <EriC^^> !score
[05:19] <QuenzOnGnome> tatertotz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/26456316/
[05:19] <Quenz> tatertotz You know it would be faster if you just told me to do both of those things at the same time
[05:20] <tatertotz> Quenz: oh here http://termbin.com/07ji
[05:20] <Quenz> tatertotz What about it?
[05:22] <tatertotz> Quenz: just so you can compare to the other days occurrences http://termbin.com/ty0q
[05:24] <Quenz> I don't really follow
[05:25] <tatertotz> Quenz: it's possible to change the "attributes" using the nvidia utility
[05:25] <CrazyTux> hello, how to install Mutiny DE on Ubuntu Mate 16.04?
[05:26] <tatertotz> Quenz: the list of attributes and how to change them is in the link you shared
[05:28] <Quenz> This looks quite complicatee
[05:31] <tatertotz> Quenz: nouveau is easier...but you already know that
[05:32] <Quenz> I'll give it a more thorough read when I can
[06:00] <gibking> hi there
[06:00] <lotuspsychje> gibking: welcome, what can we do for you?
[06:01] <gibking> i'm struggling with dhclient/ipv6 and wonder if i hit a bug or not
[06:02] <gibking> in our setup, a hosts is beeing assigned an ip6 address from isc-dhcp
[06:02] <lotuspsychje> gibking: send all details to this channel mate, whats happening,ubuntu version, kernel, steps tryed
[06:03] <gibking> hm ok, lets start:
[06:03] <tatertotz> gibking: are you chatting from the computer right now? yes or no
[06:04] <gibking> DHCP Client System: trusty, 4.4.0-111-generic, isc-dhcp-client  4.2.4-7ubuntu12.10
[06:04] <gibking> no, this happens in the lab
[06:04] <tatertotz> ok cool...carry on...dinner time for me
[06:05] <gibking> host gets ip6 addr normally: "ip a s" inet6 2003:.../128 scope global valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
[06:06] <gibking> but after some time (probably has something to do with lease-time?) the ip becommed depreffered
[06:06] <lotuspsychje> gibking: server or desktop? system up to date?
[06:07] <gibking> preferred_lft is set to zero and in syslog i can see: dhclient: PRC: Address 2003:... depreferred
[06:07] <gibking> 14.04 Server
[06:07] <gibking> but this  does also happen on 16.04 server
[06:08] <lotuspsychje> gibking: you might wanna check #ubuntu-server
[06:08] <gibking> this is why i am not sure if its a bug or "working as designed"
[06:09] <gibking> ok, i'll try over there
[06:16] <lotuspsychje> gibking: you guys have been playing around with other kernels?
[06:18] <Shmam> Hi, I'm trying to get crontab to work. I have the following: `@reboot and inside of run, there is a bash script with `#!/bin/bash and then it cds into a dir and starts a nodejs script. But it doesnt work for some reason. If I try to do `/home/sam/Documents/repo/run` as a regular user, it works fine.
[06:20] <lotuspsychje> !cron | Shmam
[06:20] <Shmam> I can't use the gui, it's a headless server
[06:21] <Shmam> mine follows the guidelines that you posted: "@reboot /path/to/execuable1"
[06:21] <lotuspsychje> Shmam: try #ubuntu-server they might know the cli part
[06:57] <baimafeima> hi all
[06:57] <baimafeima> can ubuntu be considered an "independent" distribution in the sense that arch or debian are independent?
[06:57] <ikonia> baimafeima: I don't know what that means
[06:58] <ikonia> it's probably not a support related discussion though for this channel
[06:58] <cfhowlett> baimafeima, #ubuntu-offtopic I think
[06:58] <baimafeima> ok
[06:59] <bazhang> baimafeima, sure it's independent, ubuntu is not a respin of debian, furhter chatter in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[07:00] <lotuspsychje> !debian | baimafeima see also
[07:03] <Melatonina> Hello.
[07:04] <hanabishi> Hi that!!!!
[07:04] <hanabishi> hello everyone
[07:04] <hanabishi> i want some information
[07:05] <Melatonina> Yesterday, instead of the usual lockscreen I got this message saying that the lockscreen was broken and I had to unlock-sessions from a console. Today I rebooted and now I don't get any login screen, only a black screen. What can I do do fix this?
[07:06] <Melatonina> I'm using 16.04 with kdesktop. I already attempted to uninstall and re-install it but didn't fix anything. I don't care about the desktop. I just want to keep working. Any desktop is ok.
[07:06] <Melatonina> Can you help me?
[07:07] <hanabishi> about Huawei connect with my computer i sew some packet out to china server, it normal??? or what happend
[07:11] <hanabishi> it will made a problem for me???
[07:14] <ikonia> hanabishi: that is not ubuntu software
[07:14] <ikonia> hanabishi: we have no idea of it's inner workings,
[07:16] <hanabishi> ikonia: oh sorry,then please kindly told me - what me should do??
[07:16] <ikonia> no idea
[07:16] <ikonia> contact the vendor /
[07:16] <ikonia> ?
[07:38] <Melatonina> Could anybody help me to investigate the cause of the black screen I get instead of the login screen in ubuntu 16.04.3?
[07:41] <hateball> Melatonina: what has changed between it working as normal, and now?
[07:44] <Melatonina> hateball: I can't be sure. I was building several new packages so I used the package manager to install dependencies. I'm not aware of intentionally changing anything. One thing I noticed: yesterday, when I left the computer, instead of the usual lock screen I found a message of this kind: "The lockscreen does't work. You have to log in into a console and type the following command". Today I had to reboot and the login screen doesn't work at all.
[07:45] <Melatonina> Now if I issue commands like "plasmawindowed" I get "QXcbConnection: cannot connect to display"
[07:45] <tatertotz> Melatonina: do you have physical access to the computer right now? yes or no
[07:45] <bittis> i have what might be an odd question, but has anyone had issues with udp packets coming to an ubuntu server and them not being reassembled if fragmented?
[07:46] <Melatonina> tatertotz: yes, I can use a shell. (and it's a virtual machine, actually)
[07:46] <tatertotz> Melatonina: does the computer have network connectivity? ping google.com to find out
[07:47] <tatertotz> Melatonina: does the computer have network connectivity? yes or no
[07:48] <tatertotz> Melatonina: probably no connectivity
[07:48] <Melatonina> tatertotz: I can ping www.google.com. So yes
[07:48] <tatertotz> Melatonina: sudo apt install inxi pastebinit
[07:48] <tatertotz> Melatonina: let me know when done
[07:51] <Melatonina> tatertotz: installed
[07:51] <tatertotz> Melatonina: inxi -Fxxprzc0 &> ~/nip.pir
[07:52] <tatertotz> Melatonina: let me know when done
[07:55] <tatertotz> Melatonina: are you okay?
[07:55] <Melatonina> tatertotz: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/26456850/
[07:55] <Melatonina> there it is
[07:55] <tatertotz> it's a mistake to try to think ahead of me
[07:55] <Melatonina> ah ok :-) sorry
[07:56] <tatertotz> there's only one way to fix that behavior
[07:56] <tatertotz> ....good luck
[07:56] <NginUS> I got Thunderbird & FireTray installed from their PPAs but the add-on doesn't appear in the app
[07:56] <Melatonina> tatertotz: ?
[07:57] <Melatonina> tatertotz: are you ok?
[07:58] <Melatonina> tatertotz: what did you want me to do?
[07:59] <tatertotz> Melatonina: i usually express what i want you to do in written form, verbatim
[08:00] <tatertotz> Melatonina: if i didn't write it...don't do it
[08:01] <tatertotz> Melatonina: does that make sense to you?
[08:01] <tatertotz> Melatonina: do you understand what went wrong there?
[08:03] <Melatonina> tatertotz: yes
[08:05] <Melatonina> tatertotz: if you have any tips, I'm here. Otherwise, thank you for the attempt
[08:32] <causative_> my internet appears to be working fine, except I can't download updates through Software Updater - it fails to download them and says to check my connection.  firewall is off. what now?
[08:33] <tatertotz> causative_: are you chatting from the computer right now? yes or no
[08:34] <causative_> yes
[08:34] <tatertotz> causative_: can you open terminal?
[08:34] <causative_> also, another Ubuntu machine on the home network can update fine so it's not the router
[08:35] <causative_> I have a terminal
[08:36] <Beforeclick> causative_: all repos or a specific one?
[08:36] <causative_> it can't get anything, not even the list of updates
[08:36] <Beforeclick> what's the error message
[08:36] <causative_> "Failed to download repository information. Check your Internet connection."
[08:36] <tatertotz> causative_: cat /var/log/apt/term.log|nc termbin.com 9999
[08:37] <tatertotz> causative_: share url/link here..if you do not get a url/link..says os
[08:37] <tatertotz> causative_: share url/link here..if you do not get a url/link..say so
[08:37] <causative_>  /var/log/apt/term.log is empty
[08:38] <tatertotz> causative_: cat /var/log/apt/history.log|nc termbin.com 9999
[08:38] <tatertotz> causative_: share url/link here..if you do not get a url/link..say so
[08:38] <causative_> also empty
[08:39] <Beforeclick> any not empty files in the folder?
[08:39] <tatertotz> causative_: nmcli c s|nc termbin.com 9999
[08:39] <tatertotz> causative_: share url/link here..if you do not get a url/link..say so
[08:39] <causative_> there are some old .gz logs and eipp.log.gz
[08:40] <daedeloth> hi, my laptop sometimes randomly freezes while launching java software (not sure if the java part is related)
[08:41] <daedeloth> after that x/wayland/whatever it's using crashes and restarts
[08:41] <daedeloth> i'd like to figure out if it's a hardware or a software issue
[08:41] <daedeloth> dmesg doesn't really show anything strange
[08:42] <causative_> http://termbin.com/2c9lq
[08:42] <tatertotz> causative_: nmcli d s|nc termbin.com 9999
[08:42] <tatertotz> causative_: share url/link here..if you do not get a url/link..say so
[08:43] <causative_> http://termbin.com/oenm
[08:43] <k01101011> hers is an alternative way to possibly help him out if all els fails https://github.com/jblakeman/apt-select
[08:44] <crandon> Hi! I'm using ubuntu 17.10. I disabled natural scrolling of my touchpad, it's still behaves like it would be enabled. I experienced the same in 17.04. Interestingly after a suspend-wake cycle the behavior changes to the expected. Any ideas?
[08:46] <tatertotz> causative_: nmcli n co ch|nc termbin.com 9999
[08:46] <jpjacobs> Morning! could anyone tell me how to get 17.10 booting from an LVM-cached root? I get dumpte to the initramfs prompt. I tried the solution suggested in bug #1423796 but could not ge it to work
[08:47] <causative_> tatertotz, it just says "full"
[08:47] <tatertotz> causative_: good
[08:47] <tatertotz> causative_: id|nc termbin.com 9999
[08:48] <causative_> why? doesn't seem secure to share user IDs
[08:48] <tatertotz> causative_: you want me to believe you really understand what you're looking at?
[08:48] <tatertotz> you'll have to try harder than that
[08:49] <causative_> I'm looking at users and groups
[08:49] <tatertotz> causative_:  you want to continue. true or false
[08:52] <causative_> this user's groups are 4(adm),24(cdrom),46(plugdev),116(nopasswdlogin),118(lpadmin),124(sambashare), if that is the information you want
[09:02] <ss942> hello, I'm trying to change postfix configuration with "dpkg-reconfigure postfix" but I get 10 times "sh: 0: getcwd() failed: No such file or directory" and "insserv: pushd() can not change to directory /etc/init.d: No such file or directory",  "update-rc.d: error: insserv rejected the script header"
[09:03] <ss942> I have /etc/init.d directory obviously so I don't get why this error appears
[09:03] <ss942> any idea?
[09:04] <ss942> this happen on ubuntu 16.04*
[09:11] <causative_> apt update from the command line gave me more information than Software Updater: https://pastebin.com/Ww53HkyE
[09:14] <causative_> so it appears several yakkety repositories no longer have a Release file, but I'm not sure what to do about this, does this just mean updates are no longer supported?  can I fix the problem by upgrading to a newer release?
[09:19] <causative_> do-release-upgrade does not support an upgrade from 'yakkety' to 'artful', does this mean there is no way to upgrade?
[09:19] <causative_> and I have to reinstall?
[09:19] <Ben64> causative_: support for 16.10 ended in July 2017
[09:19] <causative_> I gathered, now what?
[09:20] <Ben64> you'd have to upgrade to 17.04, which just lost support, then 17.10
[09:20] <causative_> but how?  I found instructions to do so through the graphical software updater, which no longer works, and through do-release-upgrade, which also does not seem to work
[09:21] <Ben64> !eolupgrade
[09:21] <Ben64> that link should show how
[09:22] <phimic> hello all, i upgraded my ubuntu 17.04 to 17.10 and have now a broken package repository
[09:22] <phimic> python : Hängt ab von (vorher): python-minimal (= 2.7.13-2) aber 2.7.14-2ubuntu1 ist installiert,
[09:22] <phimic>           Hängt ab von: libpython-stdlib (= 2.7.13-2) aber 2.7.14-2ubuntu1 ist installiert
[09:23] <Ben64> phimic: what are you doing to get that error
[09:23] <causative_> ok thanks Ben64 looks like it would be easier and more foolproof to do a fresh install
[09:24] <Ben64> causative_: probably. and if you use LTS versions you get 5 years of support instead of 9 months
[09:24] <phimic> Ben64: i just try a apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:24] <Ben64> phimic: paste the whole output on paste.ubuntu.com and give the link here
[09:27] <phimic> Ben64: https://paste.ubuntu.com/26457190/
[09:29] <Ben64> phimic: ok now apt-cache policy python
[09:32] <phimic> Ben64: https://paste.ubuntu.com/26457214/
[09:35] <Ben64> strange
[09:40] <phimic> Ben64: do you know the issue?
[09:40] <Ben64> the package didn't get upgraded
[09:41] <phimic> Ben64: is there a way to upgrade it manually
[09:42] <Ben64> looks like it's trying to but getting held up on something, i wouldn't want to guess and have it mess things up more
[10:15] <Dbugger> Hello everyone
[10:16] <Dbugger> I have a question. I am trying to import a VPN from an ovpn file, but when I do it I get an error: "Key file contains "client" line which is not a key-value pair, group or comment"
[10:16] <Dbugger> Does anyone know what could be going on here?
[10:37] <ubuntuHellMan> is that
[10:37] <ubuntuHellMan> a ubuntu channel
[10:37] <ubuntuHellMan> i hate ubuntu
[10:37] <ubuntuHellMan> is it a GNU/Linux distro
[10:38] <ubuntuHellMan> ? I dont saw any GNU/Linux word in ubuntu's offical website
[10:38] <ubuntuHellMan> why? Are you afraid of using GNU/Lİnux?
[10:38] <ubuntuHellMan> GNU/LİNUX
[10:38] <ubuntuHellMan> GNU/LİNUX
[10:38] <ubuntuHellMan> HEY
[10:38] <ubuntuHellMan> @[Eli]
[10:39] <ubuntuHellMan> @ahrs
[10:39] <ubuntuHellMan> @aib
[10:39] <ubuntuHellMan> FUCK
[10:39] <ubuntuHellMan> Just say me
[10:39] <mjayk> l3l
[10:39] <ubuntuHellMan> is it GNU/Linux
[10:39] <ubuntuHellMan> or not
[10:43] <ssobik> hi, why https://codepaste.net/wa715h compiled with arm-linux-gnueabihf-gcc erros with "undefined reference to `getrandom'"?
[10:43] <ssobik> libc6 contains that symbol
[10:43] <ss942> ubuntuHellMan: GNU + Linux
[10:43] <ss942> *
[10:46] <akik> ubuntuHellMan is right though. why doesn't ubuntu.com mention linux at all?
[10:47] <Ben64> this isn't the right channel for that discussion
[10:50] <calimero_82> hi guys, i've ubuntu 16.04, my problem is: failed to start kernel modules ....
[10:51] <sobczyk> ok, the crosscompiler uses a bad libc :(
[11:00] <calimero_82> any idea to solve this issue?
[11:01] <bgeradz> bgeradz
[11:28] <`slikts> how do I upgrade from an unsupported release like 16.10?
[11:28] <`slikts> I changed the repos to old-releases.ubuntu.com, but it gives me 404 for packages
[11:31] <`slikts> is there even any way to upgrade yakkety?
[11:33] <`slikts> E: Failed to fetch http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/u/util-linux/bsdutils_2.28.2-1ubuntu1.2_amd64.deb  404  Not Found
[11:33] <`slikts> etc.
[11:35] <`slikts> I'd really rather not do a fresh install
[11:36] <tatertotz> `slikts: are you chatting from the computer right now? yes or no
[11:36] <`slikts> no
[11:36] <tatertotz> `slikts: you have multiple computers? yes or no
[11:37] <`slikts> mu
[11:37] <tatertotz> `slikts: you have physical access to the computer right now? yes or no
[11:37] <`slikts> forget it
[11:38] <Orion3k> Is it possible to get 6 monitors running off two nvidia cards with 17.10?
[11:38] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:39] <jimb_> Orion3k, Do your 2x nvidia cards have 6 outputs in total?
[11:39] <jimb_> Heya BluesKaj !
[11:39] <Orion3k> They do
[11:40] <BluesKaj> Hi jimb_
[11:40] <jimb_> Orion3k, then I don't see why this would be an issue. Depends on if the nvidia cards can use each output at the same time, mine can and does
[11:40] <Orion3k> Currently I can only get them on different X screens and the second one I can't drag anything onto them
[11:41] <jimb_> Orion3k, hmmm. I don't think I can be of much additional help. I only have one nvidia card and use 16.04.03. I do use the nvidia outputs along with the onboard video outputs though.
[11:46] <tatertotz> Orion3k: does your configuration support 6 displays?
[11:52] <`slikts> posted the question to askubuntu: https://askubuntu.com/questions/999707/fetching-packages-from-old-releases-ubuntu-com-fails-with-404-not-found
[11:54] <NginUS> I installed a Thunderbird extension from the ppa but it doesn't appear as installed in the app
[11:55] <BluesKaj> !16.10
[11:56] <`slikts> I know it's EOL, just want to confirm whether it's possible to upgrade it in-place
[11:57] <OlofL> Hello im trying to update ubuntu, but im getting error: https://imgur.com/a/JI3Np
[11:57] <BluesKaj> why, it's not supported
[11:57] <`slikts> what
[11:58] <`slikts> it being unsupported is a reason to upgrade it
[11:58] <kostkon> `slikts, update the packages or upgrade to a newer release? Your wording is not clear
[11:58] <`slikts> upgrade to a newer release
[11:58] <BluesKaj> best to wait til 18.04 is released
[11:59] <`slikts> it's unusable in the current state
[11:59] <`slikts> kostkon: "upgrade from 16.10 to a current release" is fairly clear
[11:59] <geirha> `slikts: well, there is yakkety here http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/  so maybe double check that you didn't make a typo or something
[11:59] <`slikts> no, I didn't
[12:00] <BluesKaj> current release needs a clean install in that case
[12:01] <tatertotz> `slikts: have you done any trouble shooting at all?
[12:01] <`slikts> tatertotz: like what?
[12:01] <geirha> apt-cache policy bsdutils
[12:02] <kostkon> `slikts, you'd hae to upgrade to 17.04 which is also eol and then to the currently supported non-eol release, ie 17.10. better do a clean install since you are not currently on a eoled lts release anyway
[12:02] <`slikts> kostkon: how would I upgrade to 17.04?
[12:02] <kostkon> !eolupgrades | `slikts, if you want to have a go at it, then
[12:03] <`slikts> kostkon: that is about upgrading from an eol release to a current release, not about upgrading to an eol release
[12:04] <geirha> Hm, Packages.gz does indeed list bsdutils as version 2.28, yet the pool does not have that version. So this is a bug with the old-releases archive
[12:05] <kostkon> `slikts, still applies. you'll have to follow the instructions twice
[12:05] <jimb_> `slikts, I think you need to follow an upgrade path, and that path involved incremental upgrades... which in your case, means you have to upgrade to yet another eol before you can reach lts
[12:06] <jimb_> `slikts, s/lts/the end
[12:06] <`slikts> so do I change the codenames in sources.list to the release I want to upgrade to?
[12:07] <BluesKaj> you could but you'll still end up with a broken system
[12:07] <kostkon> `slikts, no, just update the urls to point to old.releases.com. you don't change the release codename
[12:08] <`slikts> right, which is what I did and which apparently doesn't work for 16.10
[12:08] <geirha> The problem is that Packages.gz points to package versions that don't exist at old-releases
[12:08] <geirha> and the bsdutils package is pretty important
[12:09] <geirha> We also don't know the extent of the problem. If it's only that one package, you could maybe jsut build that deb manually
[12:09] <`slikts> is there some place to report bugs for old-releases?
[12:11] <`slikts> oh well, I'll just do a clean install
[12:12] <jimb_> `slikts, may I suggest you install an LTS version?
[12:12] <geirha> I see similar bug reports have been filed in the past against apt package in launchpad
[12:12] <`slikts> jimb_: no thanks
[12:12] <`slikts> just need to remember to keep up to date
[12:12] <geirha> fresh install will most likely be the quicker route, I doubt old-releases has high priority
[12:13] <jimb_> `slikts, in that case, you may be better off asking questions in #ubuntu+1
[12:13] <Orion3k> tatertotz: How would I check that, it should.
[12:13] <BluesKaj> jimb_, he's already on 16.04lts
[12:13] <BluesKaj> 18.04 is still in devel
[12:14] <tatertotz> Orion3k: by querying to find out
[12:14] <Orion3k> I'm querying here
[12:15] <BluesKaj> `slikts, do you have separate / and /home partitions?
[12:15] <tatertotz> Orion3k: you can query the system ....(horses mouth)
[12:15] <Orion3k> I have the top of the line graphics cards and mb and cpu.  It would work on windows 10 I suspect easily.  I would love not to have to do that.
[12:15] <jimb_> BluesKaj, Good point. I was thinking he was going from eol beta to eol beta.
[12:15] <`slikts> BluesKaj: no
[12:15] <BluesKaj> bummer
[12:16] <tatertotz> Orion3k: the windows comparison that people make has one flaw......
[12:16] <tatertotz> Orion3k: it's an apples vs oranges comparison
[12:16] <tatertotz> Orion3k: NOT a apples vs apples comparison
[12:16] <tatertotz> thus not much of a comparison
[12:17] <tatertotz> I can drive 200 MPH in my Lamborghini but not on my bicycle?
[12:17] <jimb_> tatertotz, "apples vs apples" when talking about Windows and Linux. Come on, that has to make you giggle a little ;)
[12:17] <BluesKaj> `slikts, suggest you do so, it makes upgrading to newer releases so much simpler
[12:17] <tatertotz> faulty bike?
[12:18] <`slikts> BluesKaj: why isn't it done by default then
[12:18] <tatertotz> no the bike is not faulty....its a bike
[12:18] <BluesKaj> no idea
[12:19] <tatertotz> jimb_: that is rather humorous lol
[12:19] <BluesKaj> `slikts, the memebers here are mostly support volunteers not developers
[12:19] <Orion3k> tatertotz: So you don't know if it's possible?
[12:20] <tatertotz> Orion3k: i can help you find out if you want
[12:21] <Orion3k> tatertotz: I would really appreciate that.  I had little luck searching for the answer.
[12:22] <tatertotz> Orion3k: are you chatting from the computer right now? yes or no
[12:23] <Orion3k> tatertotz: My implant came from Hawkings so I just think it over to you
[12:23] <tatertotz> lol
[12:30] <muhammad> Hello, on Ubuntu MATE, I can't use a complex shortcut if a key of the combination is assigned to a shortcute, like the WIN key (SUPER) + anyother key; it will always pop up the menu.
[12:31] <muhammad> Any advice on this matter?
[12:32] <jimb_> muhammad, I would suggest fixing the complex shortcut so that it no longer includes an existing, less complex shortcut
[12:33] <muhammad> Hi, jimb. I believe that's just a workaround; it should be okay so is that a bug?
[12:34] <jimb_> muhammad, I am unsure if that would be called a bug. Little harm in filing a report and being told it's not a bug though.
[12:35] <muhammad> @jimb_, that's cool thank you. :D
[12:35] <muhammad> I will try to work around it
[12:35] <jimb_> muhammad, you are welcome. In regards to the workaround,... compiz settings manager may be of help. `sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager`
[12:52] <p4kl0nc4t_> hello
[12:53] <p4kl0nc4t_> so lonely
[12:53] <jimb_> p4kl0nc4t_, There is probably a channel specifically for that :/ I hope all is well
[12:53] <k01101011> #cats
[12:54] <p4kl0nc4t_> jimb_, are you using Ubuntu 17.10 ?
[12:54] <jimb_> p4kl0nc4t_, 16.04.03
[12:55] <p4kl0nc4t_> anyone here have used pyinstaller to compile python programs into exes? I am curious how to get it done in Linux env. jimb_
[12:56] <jimb_> p4kl0nc4t_, I have not used that program. I can't remember what I used to use for portable EXE from python scripts :(
[12:57] <p4kl0nc4t_> jimb_, i had compiled it successfully, but its detected as virus by some popular antiviriuses
[12:57] <p4kl0nc4t_> Maybe, anyone here knows the solution? or any python compiler alternative
[12:59] <ss942> Connection works with telnet but don't with openssl. It refuse connection with "connect:errno=111". I'm totally green in this field. Is it something with selfsigned certificates I generated?
[13:02] <pagios> hi all, anyone with LVM experience? I need to expand my /opt directory across 2 disks thank you
[13:02] <pagios> hi all, anyone with LVM experience? I need to expand my /opt directory across 2 disks thank you
[13:11] <jimb_> p4kl0nc4t_, It looks like you may want to file false-positive reports with the respective antivirus companies. Otherwise, there are programs you can get to basically encrypt your compiled program. This is off-topic for this channel and I can't remember the name of said program
[13:11] <jimb_> ss942, That looks like the server is what refused the connection. Are you acting as the server or the client (or both)?
[13:25] <ler_hydra> on
[13:26] <DannyRock> Hi
[13:26] <jhonnyBeGood> I installed Intel-microcode package for update the code from intel processor
[13:26] <jhonnyBeGood> How can I test if it still vunerable?
[13:26] <jhonnyBeGood> I am using ubuntu 16.04
[13:27] <BluesKaj> !meltdown
[13:32] <kostkon> jhonnyBeGood, they have reverted the patches anyway per intel's request https://usn.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-3531-2/
[13:34] <luig> hi, trying to format ssd disk with mkfs.f2fs and it shows two messages that are antagonic
[13:34] <luig> 5246ff3a-e7a8-4857-af5d-294bd8fe9e3a
[13:34] <luig> sorry
[13:34] <luig> Info: Trim is enabled
[13:34] <luig> and later
[13:35] <luig> Info: Discarding device Info: This device doesn't support TRIM
[13:35] <luig> this is for a recent SamsungEvo 850
[13:41] <gt8ost4l> can anybody help me when i browse firefox blank spots appear?
[13:43] <cristian_c> gt8ost4l: I don't know, but somebody could find useful if you give more details
[13:43] <kostkon> gt8ost4l, does it still happen when you run firefox in safe mode?
[13:43] <gt8ost4l> yes
[13:44] <gt8ost4l> it only happens on amazon and i dontknow why
[13:44] <kostkon> gt8ost4l, you could try clearing your cache and revelant cookies
[13:44] <gt8ost4l> kostkon: i already tried that
[13:45] <gt8ost4l> its really mindnumbing since i cant find the solurtion
[13:46] <clickwir> A screenshot of these spots would be interesting to see.
[13:47] <gt8ost4l> clicwir: hold on
[13:52] <gt8ost4l> clickwi:where do i send the photo
[13:52] <kostkon> !paste
[13:54] <gt8ost4l> https://imgur.com/a/4BA6m there you go
[14:02] <antimist> Okay, I got a weird issue with systemd
[14:02] <antimist> systemctl under root works
[14:02] <antimist> but systemctl --user any command
[14:02] <antimist> returns: Process org.freedesktop.systemd1 exited with status 1
[14:03] <jhonnyBeGood> kostkon This bug was fixed in the package intel-microcode - 3.20180108.0+really20170707ubuntu17.10.1
[14:03] <antimist> any help?
[14:03] <jhonnyBeGood> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/intel-microcode/+bug/1742933
[14:03] <jhonnyBeGood> !meltdown
[14:04] <antimist> could be a dbus issue, since polkit also doesn't work correctly, when I try to reduce the backlight
[14:05] <jhonnyBeGood> and how can I test if this microcode really workes?
[14:08] <kostkon> jhonnyBeGood, it doesn't. this is the old(er) microcode that doesn't contain any patches against spectre and meltdown
[14:09] <cisco> salut
[14:09] <Guest22375> Salut
[14:12] <kostkon> jhonnyBeGood, nevertheless, you can use this script to check if you are vulnerable https://github.com/speed47/spectre-meltdown-checker
[14:15] <jhonnyBeGood> I dont know if this script is 100% right... I updated some debian machines wth the kernell patched and I had false values ...
[14:16] <jimb_> That script tries to make the determination based on looking at various values/code. It doesn't actually check if you are vuln by using the exploits. I don't think the dev expects it to be 100%
[14:21] <qp> how to reduce boot time ? can i disable drivers loat at startup to reduce it ?
[14:23] <qp> anyone online ?
[14:25] <qp> anyone online ?
[14:26] <jimb_> qp, I am here... sure others are too.
[14:26] <deadrom> can someone recommend a usb 11ac adapter that works ootb with 16.04 and later?
[14:26] <qp> how to reduce boot time ? can i disable drivers load at startup to reduce it ?
[14:27] <deadrom> qp: you can tell systemd to create a html chart that shows you what needs how much startup time. forgot details, google helps
[14:28] <deadrom> usually it is a service that's waiting for something. network stuff keeps the system waiting lots
[14:29] <qp> deadrom: https://paste.ubuntu.com/26458681/
[14:30] <michael__> #ubuntu-de
[14:30] <deadrom> qp: mount | grep sda2 <- what is sda2 / ? /home?
[14:31] <deadrom> qp: as I said: network-manager takes 15sec. what's your network setup?
[14:31] <qp> wifi
[14:32] <qp> deadrom: /dev/sda2 on / type ext4 (rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro,data=ordered)
[14:33] <deadrom> qp: so your root partition takes 12 sec to start... hdd or ssd? laptop computer or stationary pc?
[14:34] <qp> deadrom: laptop , hdd
[14:36] <deadrom> qp: old hdd? 12sec spin up seems a little long
[14:36] <deadrom> qp: network-manager is fine usually, I got better results with wicd though
[14:36] <qp> deadrom: no , only ayear old
[14:36] <deadrom> YMMV
[14:37] <deadrom> ext4 / should come up like that. but - maybe you just drew stats from a forced fs check, reboot, generate stats again, see if sda2 delay stays
[14:38] <deadrom> try a html chart, too, still: that gives you a graph with dependencies and all
[14:39] <qp> deadrom: how to disable wakeup on lan , i dont have that in my bios
[14:39] <jink> Any tips on upgrading 16.10 server to something recent?
[14:41] <deadrom> jink: use apt-get selections to draw installed packages list , install over, keep /home, reinstall selections. see debian migration docs for pointers/details
[14:42] <deadrom> qp: how did we get from startup delays to WOL..?
[14:42] <jink> deadrom: "Install over" will make me lose any and all configs that I have made, right?
[14:43] <qp> deadrom: when i start my laptop i get blank black screen for about 30 sec and laptop battery drain , around 18% in a day(shutdown)
[14:45] <deadrom> jink: hence the debian guide. you do *not* lose per user configs in /home/, what you do lose is settings in etc. those one can backup tho
[14:46] <deadrom> qp: black screen for 30s...? what make/model is that lpatop?
[14:46] <jink> deadrom: Thanks again.  Last question: this thing doesn't know about "apt-get selections".
[14:46] <qp> deadrom: hp notebook ay008
[14:48] <deadrom> jink: dpkg, not apt-get, my bad: check this for hints: https://wiki.debian.org/ListInstalledPackages
[14:48] <jink> Great stuff.  I'll try and give it a go.
[14:49] <deadrom> qp: fancy usb devices attached? odd RAM?
[14:50] <qp> deadrom: no , no only a year old
[14:50] <deadrom> qp: could be looking for a net boot device. check BIOS for PXE perhaps. but wouldn't stay black for so long still. after the 30sec works ok?
[14:51] <qp> deadrom: yes , it has very basic bios
[14:54] <deadrom> qp: smartctl -a /dev/sda thinks the hdd is happy?
[14:54] <qp> deadrom: no option in bios
[14:54] <deadrom> better  | pastebinit that
[14:55] <rumahmakan19> hello
[14:56] <deadrom> oi oi
[14:57] <pabed___> Hi guys , I am a little bit confused about Gui network adapter config , and /ect/ network/ interfaces config file , which one has high priority?
[15:00] <pabed___> What will be happened  If I have different config in GUI and config file?
[15:00] <qp> deadrom: https://paste.ubuntu.com/26458853/
[15:04] <BlAd3RuNn3R> hi everyone
[15:04] <qp> deadrom: everything ok ?
[15:04] <ArmedNarc> My top bar is duplicating when I change settings in gnome-tweaks... any idea how I can fix this? http://pix.toile-libre.org/?img=1516892600.png
[15:06] <BlAd3RuNn3R> can anyone suggest how or where to find a guide that can be used to run this wifi card of my Qualcomm Atheros QCA6174 802.11ac laptop
[15:09] <qp> BlAd3RuNn3R: go to drivers and enable device drivers
[15:09] <qp> BlAd3RuNn3R: go to  additional drivers and enable device drivers
[15:11] <qp> deadrom: ?
[15:12] <leftyfb> pabed___: in stock ubuntu, Network Manager will override any configs you have in E/N/I on boot.
[15:12] <qp> leftyfb: please check this https://paste.ubuntu.com/26458853/
[15:14] <leftyfb> qp: ?
[15:15] <qp> leftyfb: blank screen for around 30 sec + slow boot + battery drain (shutdown) 18percent in a day
[15:17] <leftyfb> qp: this the same read-only issue from yesterday?
[15:18] <qp> leftyfb: yes , it was kernel issue , downgrading kernel solved it and now i am using ubuntu 16.04lts
[15:19] <leftyfb> uh
[15:19] <leftyfb> qp: I thought you were running 17.10
[15:19] <scrubbins> am trying to apply USN-3542-1 on 14.04.5 LTS .  with apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade  - but not receiving the package     linux-image-generic 3.13.0.141.151  - what I doing wrong?
[15:19] <qp> leftyfb: i was yesterday ,
[15:19] <leftyfb> qp: so did you downgrade the kernel on 17.10 or 16.04?
[15:20] <qp> leftyfb: first downgrade kernel and problem fixed  then downgrade to 16.04
[15:21] <leftyfb> qp: how did you "downgrade" to 16.04? Did you do a fresh install or some really bad idea of downgrading every package?
[15:21] <pabed___> leftyfb: even if managed=true in /etc / networkmanager/networkmanager.conf?
[15:21] <leftyfb> padv_: managed means network manager will take over. If you want to use E/N/I, then set it to unmanaged
[15:22] <qp> leftyfb: fresh install
[15:22] <leftyfb> qp: ok, so that's a fresh install. Not a downgrade. Because boy would that be a mess
[15:22] <leftyfb> qp: try installing the latest drivers from the manufacturer of your video card?
[15:23] <qp> leftyfb: amd r5 m 430 xD
[15:23] <leftyfb> ugh, amd
[15:23] <leftyfb> qp: still should try whatever drivers are good for that card. I'm not familiar with it though so can't help much there
[15:24] <leftyfb> qp: please do not private message
[15:24] <sle666> hello
[15:24] <qp> leftyfb: https://paste.ubuntu.com/26458853/ is my hard disk good ?
[15:24] <pabed___> leftyfb: as default it is managed = false and /E/N/I does not work in this condition
[15:25] <sle666> not
[15:25] <leftyfb> qp: if the read-only issue was kernel related and doesn't happen on changing kernels, then yes, it would seem your drive is fine
[15:25] <leftyfb> sle666: can we help you with something?
[15:25] <leftyfb> pabed___: ok, then maybe I got that wrong. Try setting it to true
[15:26] <qp> leftyfb: how to disable wake up on lan , i dont have option in bios , and please see pm it is offtopic so i pmed u
[15:26] <leftyfb> qp: wake on lan is a BIOS setting.
[15:26] <pabed___> leftyfb: I find the terminology for ‘managed’ a little confusing here because I have to set this to true to get Network Manager to recognise that I am actually managing this connection manually!
[15:27] <qp> leftyfb: it is very basic bios , hp laptop
[15:27] <leftyfb> qp: you'll have to contact HP then.
[15:27] <leftyfb> qp: that's not a setting in the OS since it works regardless of being booted
[15:27] <qp> leftyfb: please see pm
[15:27] <genii> On some systems you disable WOL by unplugging the cable which goes to the WOL jumper on the network adapter to the WOL pins on the motherboard
[15:28] <leftyfb> qp: sorry, I am not interested in off topic discussions via pm
[15:28] <leftyfb> genii: pretty sure this is a laptop
[15:29] <qp> leftyfb: how you learn about these things ? how old you are ?
[15:29] <arunkumar413> Can any body help me installing opencv?
[15:30] <leftyfb> qp: I started with am Oreilly book called "Running Linux". It still recommend it to people to get started with linux.
[15:30] <leftyfb> qp: beyond that answer, the rest is offtopic and will not be discussed here or in pm. Please stay on topic
[15:31] <leftyfb> qp: or feel free to join #ubuntu-offtopic to have similar discussions with others
[15:31] <qp> leftyfb: can you please help me to solve battry drain issue ?
[15:32] <leftyfb> qp: like I said, try loading whatever is the appropriate driver for your video chipset. It being AMD, I'm not the best to assist with that
[15:32] <leftyfb> !pm | gt8ost4l
[15:32] <qp> leftyfb: it has hybrid gfx , can i disable amd and use intel only ?
[15:33] <gt8ost4l> leftyfb: https://imgur.com/a/4BA6m
[15:35] <leftyfb> qp: I'm pretty sure the answer is yes there, but it's not that easy to work out. I would start reading through https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/AMD
[15:35] <leftyfb> gt8ost4l: you might want to ask a question
[15:35] <thesnark> I'm running ubuntu 17.10 and for some reason when I run readelf -a on just about any executable, they all seem to be shared objects.
[15:35] <thesnark> What gives?
[15:36] <thesnark> Anybody know where I can find more information on this?
[15:36] <qp> leftyfb: it only works upto 14.04
[15:37] <gt8ost4l> leftyfb: i am having problems with firefox when i scroll down blank portions appear
[15:37] <thesnark> https://pastebin.com/Ss73pBYe
[15:38] <gt8ost4l> its in the link i sent you
[15:38] <leftyfb> qp: maybe try http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMDGPU-PRO-Install.aspx
[15:38] <leftyfb> gt8ost4l: maybe try installing/enabling the proprietary drivers for your video chipset
[15:38] <qp> leftyfb: amd r5 m430 is not supported
[15:39] <gt8ost4l> leftyfb: how do i do that?
[15:39] <leftyfb> qp: I'll be honest, I do not know the answer off-hand and don't have the time to google for you and walk you through trying all the possibilities. Maybe someone else here might be able to
[15:39] <leftyfb> gt8ost4l: open the additional drivers app
[15:39] <gt8ost4l> i did it just has the open source intell chipset
[15:40] <thesnark> Found my answer in case anybody is curious https://askubuntu.com/questions/690631/executables-vs-shared-objects#690646
[15:40] <vadostinger> hi
[15:41] <leftyfb> qp: https://askubuntu.com/questions/939689/installing-oibafs-drivers-for-amd-r5-m430-on-ubuntu-16-04
[15:42] <qp> leftyfb: tried worst battry backup
[15:42] <deadrom> qp: hard disk looks good. well. did you take the overall time by stop watch? what are we lookign at, a minute? 1:20?
[15:42] <leftyfb> deadrom: we are well past that
[15:43] <qp> deadrom: by stopwatch it was 2.12 sec to see desktop
[15:43] <leftyfb> qp: after you install the drivers from the post above, do you get faster boot times and performance?
[15:44] <qp> leftyfb: same boot speed
[15:44] <deadrom> leftyfb, qp, oh :) did you identify anything? 2:12 seems a bit long even for a classic hdd, admitted. but I'd say 1:30 would be normal-ish, so the 30s thing remains
[15:46] <qp> deadrom: leftyfb  Kernel driver in use: i915 , so amd is off ? right
[15:47] <gt8ost4l> leftyfb would it make a difference if i delete the .moziller folder and reinstall firefox
[15:48] <deadrom> qp: odd. yes. maybe the gpu init s what gives you the 30s black at boot time. it IS possible intel video is on and acts as a display driver while rendering is handed off to the amd gpu... does lsmod show radeon?
[15:48] <deadrom> or fglrx even?
[15:49] <qp> deadrom: http://paste.ubuntu.com/26459083/
[15:54] <qp> deadrom: radeon ,amdgpu
[15:56] <deadrom> qp: weird... could be like I said, could not. I'd ask in #radeon
[15:57] <deadrom> qp: does the bios have an option "init this gpu / init that gpu" "run the other hybrid mode" or such?
[15:57] <qp> deadrom: no
[15:57] <qp> deadrom: redeon is dead group
[16:04] <qp> deadrom: ?
[16:06] <deadrom> qp: radeon, not radeonhd
[16:06] <qp> deadrom: https://paste.ubuntu.com/26459083/
[16:08] <deadrom> qp: saw that, what about it? drm holds both radeon and i915, supports my driver/render theory, but really, #radeon is the place
[16:09] <qp> deadrom: no one is online there
[16:09] <qp> deadrom: https://askubuntu.com/questions/771562/16-04-power-off-discrete-graphics-ati-amd this will work?
[16:12] <deadrom> I see around 100 users there
[16:12] <qp> no one answer
[16:12] <deadrom> patience is of the essence there.
[16:12] <qp> trying 3 days
[16:13] <deadrom> but the black screen, that's *before* linux boots, right?
[16:13] <qp> no after ubuntu logo
[16:13] <qp> and battery drain when laptop is shutdown
[16:14] <deadrom> sounds like KMS issue rather. hmm. google how disable kernel mode switching, maybe then you at least get to see what the machine is doing there in the first 30sec
[16:14] <deadrom> I'd try ubuntu forums, too
[16:14] <qp> and what about battey drain ?
[16:15] <deadrom> ah, and just for kicks: 16.04 you said? 4.4 kernel? had some 4.4 issues with some rarer amd gpus, give the hwe kernel a shot, I think that's 4.10 or so
[16:15] <ldiamond> A coworker of mine is running Ubuntu 16.10 and wants to upgrade. Doing `apt dist-upgrade` says nothing to update, `do-release-upgrade` says you can't go from 16.10 to 17.10.
[16:15] <ldiamond> What's the upgrade path supported?
[16:15] <qp> yes
[16:15] <deadrom> apt search hwe, should turn up a linux-image-yadda-generic
[16:15] <nicomachus> !eol | ldiamond check this second link
[16:16] <deadrom> ok gotta run, good luck and stay around on #radeon, who knows
[16:16] <qp> nicomachus: plz help me
[16:17] <nicomachus> ldiamond: 16.10 is eol, so it's no longer supported. Your coworker is very behind on upgrading. You can do an EOL Upgrade to 17.10 by following the second link here, or you can backup and reinstall with 16.04 LTS so that your coworker doesn't run into this problem so often.
[16:17] <nicomachus> qp: what's the problem?
[16:17] <qp> nicomachus: battry drain when laptop is off
[16:17] <qp> nicomachus: shutdown
[16:18] <nicomachus> qp: if the battery is dying when it's shutdown, then it's a bad battery and not an Ubuntu issue.
[16:18] <qp> nicomachus: but dont happen when i install windows 10
[16:18] <nicomachus> qp: there's is nothing that ubuntu can do to make your battery die when ubuntu is shut down.
[16:19] <nicomachus> qp: you can try using poweroff instead of shutdown to make sure that everything is actually completely powered off.
[16:19] <nicomachus> 'sudo poweroff' instead of 'sudo shutdown'
[16:20] <qp> nicomachus: wake up on lan ? or i read if wifi is on and we shutdown then it consumes battry , also i want to turn off my hybrid gfx
[16:20] <nicomachus> qp: take a look through this thread to help mitigate damage as well: https://askubuntu.com/questions/400/tips-to-extend-battery-life-for-laptops-and-notebooks#408
[16:22] <qp> nicomachus: EriC^^ tried
[16:24] <nicomachus> EriC^^ tried what?
[16:24] <ldiamond> nicomachus: The 2nd link seems fairly old
[16:24] <ldiamond> It says to update apt's sources.list, which I did, the upgrade still doesn't run.
[16:24] <qp> the link you gave me
[16:24] <ldiamond> Is the step for installing the kernel required?
[16:25] <nicomachus> ldiamond: it uses old examples but is still relevant.
[16:25] <bbking> hi
[16:25] <bbking> does anyone know of a good object storage or JBODs type storage shipping with ubuntu?
[16:26] <nicomachus> ldiamond: once you update the sources.list, run apt update && apt full-upgrade, then if you run 'lsb_release -a' you should see the new release
[16:26] <qp> please help
[16:26] <nicomachus> qp: stop saying "please help" I sent you info. Did you try those things?
[16:27] <qp> yes
[16:27] <nicomachus> you said someone else sent you the link but didn't say if you tried it.
[16:27] <nicomachus> qp: regardless, it sounds like your battery is just bad. get it tested and replace if needed.
[16:27] <qp> nicomachus: but i dont happen in windows 10
[16:27] <ldiamond> nicomachus: there's a bunch of 404 when doing `apt update`
[16:28] <nicomachus> ldiamond: what did you change the sources.list to?
[16:28] <qp> nicomachus: i get 6hours+ backup but in ubuntu 3.5 hours
[16:28] <ldiamond> nicomachus: to what's in the link with s/CODENAME/artful/g
[16:30] <nicomachus> ldiamond: use yakkety instead of artful, I believe. since that's what they were on previously.
[16:30] <qp> nicomachus: and my amd  fgx is still on ?
[16:30] <qp> gfx
[16:31] <nicomachus> qp: do you want to turn it off?
[16:31] <nicomachus> qp: do you have another graphics setup you want to use instead?
[16:31] <qp> nicomachus: my laptop has hybrid gfx
[16:31] <qp> nicomachus: so i will use intel only and increase battery backup
[16:32] <qp> nicomachus: https://paste.ubuntu.com/26459083/
[16:32] <nicomachus> qp: then blacklist the amd driver
[16:32] <ldiamond> nicomachus: just changed to yakkety and apt full-upgrade/distupgrade says nothing to do
[16:33] <nicomachus> ldiamond: 'sudo apt install update-manager-core update-manager'
[16:33] <ldiamond> do-release-upgrade also still tries to go to artful
[16:33] <nicomachus> yes you want the artful path
[16:33] <ldiamond> but it fails and says it's not supported
[16:34] <ldiamond> update-manager[core] says it's already at the latest verstion 1:16.10.10
[16:34] <john> lel
[16:35] <nicomachus> ldiamond: sudo apt install linux-image-generic linux-headers-generic
[16:35] <qp> nicomachus: amd is being used ? https://paste.ubuntu.com/26459083/
[16:35] <nicomachus> qp: show me 'sudo lshw -C video'
[16:36] <ldiamond> nicomachus: same thing, it says its already updated
[16:36] <qp> nicomachus: http://paste.ubuntu.com/26459266/
[16:37] <nicomachus> ldiamond: ok, what does 'lsb_release -a' show?
[16:37] <ldiamond> 16.10
[16:38] <nicomachus> qp: open /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist in whatever text editor you prefer, and then add the line "blacklist radeon" to the bottom. save and reboot.
[16:38] <qp> tried but readon still loads
[16:38] <nicomachus> qp: it won't if you blacklist it. don't tell me you tried it. do it.
[16:39] <nicomachus> qp: my bad, the file location is /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[16:39] <qp> yes TJ tried it when he was helping me to install amdgpu drivers
[16:42] <nicomachus> ldiamond: can you paste the contents of your sources.list to a pastebin and link here just so I can double check?
[16:44] <ldiamond> nicomachus: https://gist.github.com/lewisdiamond/412699085397ce748828bfc5cbdf4f41
[16:45] <daw_> hi
[16:45] <daw_> someone?
[16:45] <EriC^^> hey
[16:45] <daw_> hi, can u tell me how to see all local variables in linux usin terminal?
[16:46] <daw_> someone knows about linux commands?
[16:46] <nicomachus> ldiamond: ok, that looks correct. let's do this. 'sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade | nc termbin.com 9999'
[16:46] <nacc> daw_: `env`
[16:46] <nacc> daw_: i assume by "Linux" you mean the shell, aka bash by defaullt
[16:47] <daw_> you are  abeast, thx!
[16:47] <daw_> does that shows local or envoironment variables?
[16:48] <ldiamond> http://termbin.com/o8gz
[16:49] <nicomachus> ldiamond: and 'sudo do-release-upgrade | nc termbin.com 9999'
[16:50] <ldiamond> yea that doesnt work it gives me a traceback about broken pipe
[16:50] <ldiamond> the termbin output is just 'Reading cache'
[16:50] <ldiamond> rest goes to stderr
[16:51] <ldiamond> ill paste bin it instead
[16:51] <nacc> nicomachus: do-release-upgrade is done in a screen, no?
[16:51] <qp> it worked ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/26459318/
[16:51] <qp> nicomachus: plz check
[16:51] <nicomachus> nacc: no idea
[16:51] <ldiamond> nicomachus: https://gist.github.com/lewisdiamond/17e853f8e52d06c57cb543f66a1d0682
[16:51] <nicomachus> nacc: very likely.
[16:52] <nicomachus> nacc: having trouble with this EOL upgrade
[16:53] <nacc> nicomachus: you have to go yakkety to zesty manually, i believe
[16:53] <nacc> nicomachus: then zesty to artful with d-r-u
[16:53] <nacc> nicomachus: it's easier to reinstall on that path
[16:53] <nacc> (imo)
[16:53] <nicomachus> ldiamond: ^
[16:53] <ldiamond> oh well
[16:53] <nacc> i'm not 100% on that, but we were discussing that before
[16:54] <nacc> ldiamond: i mean you haven't gotten updates in almost a year
[16:54] <gordonjcp> I've never bothered doing an upgrade on EOL systems
[16:54] <nacc> ldiamond: you might as well reinstall :)
[16:54] <ldiamond> nacc: it's my coworker :p
[16:54] <ldiamond> I run Arch
[16:54] <gordonjcp> I just buy a new hard disk and do a fresh install every few years
[16:54] <nacc> ldiamond: they have not done any updates in almost a year. They might as well reinstall.
[16:55] <daw__> Hi. Does anybody know what command shows only the shell/local vars? not environment vars.
[16:55] <nacc> daw__: what do you mean?
[16:56] <daw_> only local variables
[16:56] <daw_> in bash
[16:56] <qp> nacc: my amd gfx is off ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/26459318/
[16:56] <nacc> daw_: you mean those defined with 'local'?
[16:57] <nacc> qp: i have no idea, looks like no driver for it
[16:57] <daw_> yes i guess, i want to see only the variables that are in bash but i dont wanna see envionment variables
[16:57] <qp> nacc: so it is off ?
[16:57] <nacc> daw_: i don't understand what you mean
[16:57] <daw_> xdd
[16:57] <nacc> daw_: the environment variables are in bash
[16:57] <kaigy> hi
[16:57] <nacc> daw_: i feel like maybe you are asking the wronng question?
[16:57] <daw_> how can i exclude environment vars from the list?
[16:57] <kaigy> how do I create a shortcut
[16:58] <kaigy> to atom in ubuntu
[16:58] <kaigy> ?
[16:58] <nacc> daw_: what do you mean by environemnt variables?
[16:58] <nacc> daw_: your question may be better asked in a bash specific channel, anyways, not really anytinng to do with ubuntu
[16:58] <daw_> variables that shows up when i search for env
[16:58] <daw_> when i enter env in the terminal
[16:58] <nacc> daw_: what do you think the difference between bash variables and environment variables are?
[16:59] <daw_> so what are local variables'
[16:59] <daw_> ?
[16:59] <kaigy> hihi
[16:59] <qp> nacc: i get black screen when i start ubuntu and it takes arount 2.12 minutes to boot
[16:59] <nacc> qp: i have no experience with that, sorry
[16:59] <daw_> i only wanna see those variables that i created during my session
[16:59] <nacc> daw_: I don't know what you mean by that, that's what i've been nasking
[16:59] <nacc> daw_: i don't think that's possible
[16:59] <kaigy> hello how do I create a shortcut to access atom?
[16:59] <nacc> daw_: but you can ask the bash channel
[16:59] <daw_> okay, thanks anyway :D
[16:59] <qp> and battry drain when laptop is shutdown ? (only happen after installing ubuntu)
[17:00] <daw_> thx for your time
[17:01] <qp> and battry drain when laptop is shutdown ? (only happen after installing ubuntu) nacc
[17:01] <nacc> qp: if the laptop is shutdown, then ubuntu is not running
[17:01] <nacc> qp: is it maybe not powering off?
[17:02] <qp> nacc: how to check ?
[17:02] <nacc> qp: uh, check if the laptop power light is on?
[17:02] <qp> no
[17:02] <Guest57922> Hey so, new to Linux. I've downloaded programs from SoftWare boutique. How do I make said programs appear on my desktop, so I won't have to access bouqitue first to launch them?
[17:02] <Guest57922> Ubuntu mate btw
[17:02] <nacc> qp: then i don't knonw
[17:03] <qp> thx
[17:03] <fancyfetus> hey guys, Not sure if this belongs here. I'm trying to install an older version of oracle java using the webupd8team repositories, but apt-cache madison doesn't show any alternative versions. Does anyone know of a way to downgrade my oracle java without having to do it manually??
[17:03] <Guest57922> anyone?
[17:03] <Guest57922> Hey so, new to Linux. I've downloaded programs from SoftWare boutique. How do I make said programs appear on
[17:04] <Guest57922> appear on my desktop instead*
[17:06] <nacc> fancyfetus: ppa support is done by ppa owers
[17:07] <nacc> Guest57922: i don't use desktop icons, but can you right click on your desktop? i also don't use mate
[17:07] <nacc> Guest57922: so i don't know what boutique is
[17:08] <youtah> uhg
[17:08] <youtah> I wish I could upgrade to artful
[17:08] <youtah> but I am stuck here forever
[17:08] <nicomachus> youtah: stuck where?
[17:08] <nacc> youtah: ?
[17:08] <nicomachus> you're never stuck
[17:08] <youtah> I'm at 16.10
[17:08] <nacc> youtah: you should reinstall 16.04, perhaps?
[17:08] <youtah> and it won't let me upgrade to 17.04, it tries to take me straight to 17.10
[17:08] <nicomachus> backup and reinstall with 17.10 or follow the EOLUpgrade path
[17:09] <youtah> I actually followed the EOLUpgrade instructions, and it still gave me the same message
[17:09] <nacc> youtah: yeah it's a bit tricky
[17:09] <kostkon> Guest57922, use the dash to search for the application then drag its icon to your launcher, ie the dock panel on the left
[17:09] <nacc> youtah: you need to EOL -> EOL -> current
[17:09] <nacc> that's nont really supported by that page
[17:09] <nacc> (afaict)
[17:10] <youtah> nacc, exactly
[17:10] <kostkon> Guest57922, softwaer boutique = Ubuntu software?
[17:10] <nacc> youtah: so you should reinstall
[17:10] <nacc> :)
[17:10] <youtah> That is what I am thinking
[17:10] <nacc> kostkon: iirc, it's a special mate thing (i remember workinng on a bug for it)
[17:10] <nacc> kostkon: possible a snap, i'm not sure
[17:10] <sveinse> Does anyone know how to configure qt5 apps to honour the gtk global dark setting?
[17:10] <nacc> kostkon: possible a snap, i'm not sure
[17:10] <youtah> I can reinstall over the top of this, without it nuking my home directory, can't i?
[17:10] <nacc> youtah: it will take less time
[17:10]  * youtah has never actually done that before
[17:11] <kostkon> nacc, oh yeah he/she said mate
[17:11] <nacc> kostkon: yeah, i had never heard of it before :)
[17:11] <nacc> it's like a curated software store, iirc, specific to mate
[17:11] <kostkon> nacc, hmm interesting
[17:12] <nacc> kostkon: (my recollection)
[17:18] <nicomachus> youtah: you should back up your home directory first anyway!
[17:18] <nacc> (in particular if you go to 16.04, since older OS may not understand newer config files, it depends on the app)
[17:27] <sveinse> Alas, sometimes I love the freedom of Linux. All men to himself. But other times its so frustrating because nothing is ever streamlined :D Like getting a dark theme of Qt apps in a gnome desktop :)
[17:28] <lotuspsychje> !themes | sveinse
[17:28] <papapapap234> Hi papapapap234! You're connecting from 213-186-202-119.static.vega-ua.net.
[17:28] <papapapap234> Hi Retromingent2! You're connecting from 47.144.17.99.
[17:31] <sveinse> lotuspsychje: Well, technically I don't need a new (gnome) theme. Just that qt apps become dark, like default adwaita-ish
[17:31] <Retromingent2> A simple question, yet I've found it difficult to solve: setting my "windows" key to bring up the app menu in Ubuntu 17.10.  I have gnome-tweaks, have messed with shortcuts, but to no avail.  What am I missing?
[17:32] <nicomachus> Retromingent2: my windows key brings up the overview of all open windows with the search bar to search for apps. does yours behave differently?
[17:34] <lotuspsychje> sveinse: can this help? http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/04/theme-makes-qt-apps-feel-home-gnome
[17:34] <sveinse> lotuspsychje: thanks, but I've tried that
[17:40] <V7> Hey all
[17:41] <V7> It's might be not ubuntu related, but could anyone help me with roundcube ? It receives mail, but can't send it. Also external mail client works well.
[17:42] <lotuspsychje> V7: your already in #roundcube, think thats your best bet
[17:42] <V7> lotuspsychje, Yup, but it's quiet about 3 hours or more mb
[17:43] <lotuspsychje> V7: the manpage shows anything usefull?
[17:43] <V7> Nothing for my issue mb
[17:43] <sveinse> Is there other ways than lsof to determine why gnome sais my USB pen is in use when trying to eject it?
[17:43] <V7> I've already tried to fix itout about 5 hours
[17:43] <V7> for 5 hours mb
[17:43] <lotuspsychje> V7: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Roundcube
[17:44] <V7> lotuspsychje, What's this ?
[17:46] <alu_> hola
[17:46] <lotuspsychje> V7: the ubuntu wiki help for roundcube
[17:46] <lotuspsychje> !es | alu_
[17:47] <V7> lotuspsychje, Why I would need that ?
[17:47] <V7> lotuspsychje, Would it help me with error like:  SMTP Error: Authentication failure: STARTTLS failed (Code: ) in /usr/share/nginx/roundcubemail/program/lib/Roundcube/rcube.php on line 1649 ?
[17:48] <lotuspsychje> V7: have you setup roundcube the way the wiki explains?
[17:48] <qp> laptop battery drain when laptop is shutdown (only happen when ubuntu is installed only ) + black screen for 30 sec before boot
[17:49] <lotuspsychje> !info laptop-mode-tools | qp try this
[17:49] <qp> lotuspsychje: tried
[17:50] <lotuspsychje> V7: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-your-own-webmail-client-with-roundcube-on-ubuntu-16-04 check this there's an smtp alinea
[17:51] <V7> Thank you lotuspsychje, I'll check this out mb
[17:51] <alu_> guot is goinon jiar
[17:51] <lotuspsychje> alu_: only english here please
[17:52] <qp> lotuspsychje: tried
[17:52] <lotuspsychje> qp: yes?
[17:53] <qp> lotuspsychje: tried didnt work
[17:53] <lotuspsychje> qp: define didnt work?
[17:53] <qp> getting drain
[17:54] <lotuspsychje> qp: ubuntu version? kernel version? details please
[17:54] <qp> 16.04
[17:54] <lotuspsychje> qp: up to date to 16.04.3?
[17:54] <qp> afk will be back in 2 min
[17:54] <qp> yes
[17:56] <qp> back
[17:57] <qp> lotuspsychje:  yes it is upto date
[17:57] <cyril> coucou
[17:57] <lotuspsychje> !fr | cyril
[17:58] <lotuspsychje> qp: please describe whats happening to your system from boot to desktop
[17:58] <qp> black screen for around 30 sec
[17:58] <lotuspsychje> qp: when
[17:58] <sveinse> multilingual here today :D
[17:58] <qp> after ubuntu logo
[17:59] <lotuspsychje> qp: then what happens?
[17:59] <qp> it starts normally
[17:59] <lotuspsychje> qp: thats your monitor going into blank mode?
[18:00] <qp> it goes to black mod after ubuntu logo for 30 sec then i see desktop
[18:00] <lotuspsychje> qp: monitor or system?
[18:00] <qp> laptop , in built display
[18:00] <tatertotz> qp: you are chatting from the computer right now? yes or no
[18:00] <qp> yes
[18:01] <tatertotz> qp: open terminal
[18:01] <qp> ok
[18:01] <qp> then ?
[18:01] <tatertotz> qp: sudo apt install inxi pastebinit
[18:01] <tatertotz> qp: let me know when done
[18:01] <qp> it is installed , pastebinit
[18:02] <tatertotz> qp: no do exactly what i say...and only confirm when you've done so %100
[18:02] <tatertotz> qp: sudo apt install inxi pastebinit
[18:02] <tatertotz> qp: let me know when done
[18:02] <qp> tatertotz: done
[18:03] <tatertotz> qp: inxi -Fxxprzc0|pastebinit
[18:03] <tatertotz> qp: share url/link here..if you do not get a url/link..say so
[18:03] <qp> tatertotz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/26459747/
[18:04] <tatertotz> qp: journalctl -p 4|pastebinit
[18:04] <tatertotz> qp: share url/link here..if you do not get a url/link..say so
[18:04] <qp> http://paste.ubuntu.com/26459751/
[18:05] <alu__> d
[18:05] <qp> tatertotz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/26459751/
[18:08] <tatertotz> qp: http://termbin.com/iwtn
[18:08] <qp> tatertotz: blocked in my country
[18:09] <tatertotz> qp: standby
[18:10] <Scoobz> lol
[18:10] <lotuspsychje> Scoobz: can we help you?
[18:11] <Scoobz> just strollin
[18:11] <tatertotz> qp: are you able to view the links/urls that you already shared? yes or no
[18:12] <qp> tatertotz: yes , but can see termbin
[18:12] <qp> can't
[18:12] <tatertotz> qp: ok thats fine..the termbin was just me spoon feeding you data from the link you CAN SEE
[18:13] <tatertotz> qp: https://paste.ubuntu.com/26459751/ line #462
[18:14] <tatertotz> qp: https://paste.ubuntu.com/26459751/ line #462-#487
[18:14] <qp> tatertotz: yes
[18:15] <Scoobz> ./chkrootkit
[18:15] <lotuspsychje> Scoobz: only ubuntu support here please
[18:15] <qp> tatertotz: what does that mean?
[18:16] <tatertotz> qp: open terminal
[18:16] <qp> ok
[18:16] <qp> tatertotz: then ?
[18:17] <tatertotz> qp: ls -lh /var/log|pastebinit
[18:17] <qp> tatertotz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/26459799/
[18:18] <tatertotz> qp: ubuntu-drivers devices|pastebinit
[18:19] <qp> tatertotz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/26459804/
[18:21] <tatertotz> qp: nmcli d s|pastebinit
[18:21] <qp> tatertotz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/26459810/
[18:22] <tatertotz> qp: ok i'm finished now
[18:22] <qp> tatertotz: ?
[18:22] <SimonNL> ha
[18:22] <tatertotz> qp: you can ask me direct questions...or you can let me ramble..
[18:23] <qp> tatertotz: whats wrong with my laptop?
[18:23] <tatertotz> qp: you didn't pick the best driver for your WLAN adapter....
[18:23] <tatertotz> qp: that's #1
[18:23] <trafaret1> hi everybody I have installed lamp and did configuration how it was but I can't bind localhost [Forbiden You don't have permission to access /on this server] can anybody help me please
[18:23] <tatertotz> qp: should i continue to #2
[18:24] <tatertotz> qp: should i continue to #2 yes or no
[18:24] <qp> tatertotz: plz
[18:24] <qp> yes
[18:24] <lotuspsychje> !lamp | trafaret1
[18:26] <tatertotz> qp: #2 you've been somewhat "experimental" in your endeavors and my hypothesis is that this experiment went ary
[18:28] <tatertotz> qp: you have tried the "recommended" driver. true or false
[18:28] <i-make-robots> hi!  where would I go to get help with ubuntu setup for vsftpd?  I'm trying to jail all ftp users to /var/ftp
[18:28] <i-make-robots> and have /var/ftp writeable.
[18:28] <qp> tatertotz: i didnt installed them ,they were auto installed
[18:29] <tatertotz> qp: hmm interesting
[18:29] <lotuspsychje> i-make-robots: be carefull with ftp, its a security flaw lately
[18:29] <i-make-robots> any access is a security flaw :)
[18:29] <i-make-robots> it's a one-user setup to briefly allow a large upload.
[18:29] <i-make-robots> thank you for your concern <3  I sincerely appreciate the help.
[18:30] <tatertotz> qp: If i were you, I would try the "recommended" driver
[18:30] <tatertotz> qp: you don't have to ...just some advice
[18:30] <qp> tatertotz: ok trying
[18:30] <qp> tatertotz: how?
[18:30] <lotuspsychje> i-make-robots: well this channel is for ubuntu issues mostly, for more specific help on apps better choose specific channels or forum
[18:31] <tatertotz> qp: hmmm well as per http://paste.ubuntu.com/26459804/ your driver manager thing should reveal this to you
[18:32] <tatertotz> qp: there's a thing for drivers in there...i forget what it's "officially" called/named
[18:32] <SimonNL> driver manager
[18:32] <tatertotz> yeah
[18:32] <SimonNL> just repeated what you said
[18:33] <qp> additional drivers?
[18:33] <tatertotz> qp: sounds good
[18:33] <brianUK007> I need some help with kubernetes on ubuntu with flexvolumes and cifs
[18:33] <qp> i am already using official one
[18:33] <qp> how to upload image ?
[18:34] <SimonNL> bcmwl-kernel-source = wl in inxi
[18:34] <tatertotz> qp: uh are you sure https://paste.ubuntu.com/26459747/
[18:34] <qp> tatertotz: yes
[18:34] <tatertotz> qp: driver: wl bus-ID: 03:00.0 chip-ID: 14e4:4365
[18:35] <tatertotz> qp: oh okay
[18:35] <qp> tatertotz:
[18:35] <tatertotz> qp: dmesg|egrep irmw|pastebinit
[18:36] <qp> tatertotz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/26459885/
[18:36] <SimonNL> 14e4:4365           bcmwl-kernel-source <= 16.04              bcmwl-kernel-source   <= 17.10+     https://askubuntu.com/questions/55868/installing-broadcom-wireless-drivers/60395#60395
[18:38] <trey> does anyone know if there will be newer kernels for the meltdown & spectre patches?  i'm seeing a lot of reboots with both 4.13.0-26-generic and 4.13.0-31-generic on ubuntu 16.04 LTS (hwe) on broadwell hardware still -- i saw intel's announcement on monday but not sure if the fix was supposed to be 4.13.0-31 or what
[18:38] <nacc> trey: #ubuntu-hardened
[18:39] <nacc> trey: you will see updates for those issues for presumably years to come, fwiw :)
[18:39] <tatertotz> qp: pastebinit /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[18:40] <trey> :) thanks
[18:41] <qp> tatertotz: http://paste.ubuntu.com/26459911/
[18:41] <IntelCore> hi. hp 15 is grubbing 2 times to lad my 112-generic
[18:42] <IntelCore>  er, load / lad
[18:42] <nacc> IntelCore: I am unable to parse your sentence, unfortunately
[18:42] <IntelCore> grub starts and restarts a boot
[18:42] <qp> IntelCore: u have hy ay008tx?
[18:42] <dax> trey: the reboot issue with Intel microcode was addressed by reverting the microcode changes at Intel's request. The USN for the revert is https://usn.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-3531-2/ . The reboot issue is microcode-related, it isn't a kernel thing.
[18:43] <IntelCore> ooo
[18:43] <dax> trey: and yes, for meltdown and spectre in general, there will probably continue to be security updates for it for some time, as the wider community comes up with new patchsets
[18:43] <IntelCore> wull grubbing 2 times to boot
[18:43] <qp> black screen?
[18:44] <nacc> dax: ah thanks; i wasn't sure which reboot was being mentioned :)
[18:44] <tatertotz> qp: does it occur on Ubuntu, with Linux 4.10.0-28-generic? yes or no
[18:44] <IntelCore> i note it was fine with the second update ? -112
[18:44] <qp> tatertotz: i dont know , but it was also happening with 17.10
[18:44] <i-make-robots> lotuspsychje - that's why i asked where is the best place.  I don't know the irc channel. :)  #vsftpd is invite only
[18:44] <IntelCore> mine is 16.06 lts
[18:45] <qp> IntelCore: amd r5 m430 working correctly ?
[18:45] <IntelCore> lemme run this updater.. brb
[18:45] <ducasse> i-make-robots: try ##vsftpd
[18:45] <tatertotz> qp: you have viewed the trace https://paste.ubuntu.com/26459751/ true or false
[18:45] <IntelCore> hmm?
[18:46] <qp> tatertotz: yes , but i was not able to understand it
[18:46] <IntelCore> broadwell gt 2
[18:46] <IntelCore> i5
[18:47] <IntelCore> hmm, just got update of ubu base
[18:47] <tatertotz> qp: Jan 25 23:00:20 gopal-HP-Notebook kernel: WARNING: CPU: 2 PID: 383 at /build/linux-hwe-7c8uoR/linux-hwe-4.13.0/net/wireless/sme.c:941 cfg80211_roamed+0x148/0x160 [cfg80211]
[18:47] <qp> tatertotz: ok
[18:48] <IntelCore> shuld i restart to see if the updater fixored the boot
[18:48] <swein> any have success with multi monitor dpi scaling? using  4k and 1440p monitors 18.04 beta, gnome window manager. still stuckj with one dpi to rule both monitors
[18:48] <tatertotz> qp: use 4.10 for a while and see if symptom(s) persist
[18:48] <nacc> swein: you want to be in #ubuntu+1 for 18.04
[18:48] <qp> tatertotz: how ?
[18:49] <nacc> tatertotz: 4.10 is unsupported anywhere currently, i believe
[18:49] <swein> nacc:  thanks, but the question should still apply to 17.10
[18:49] <nacc> swein: ok
[18:49] <lotuspsychje> qp: you said you had battery drain and black screen at boot, what are you doing with wifi searching?
[18:49] <tatertotz> qp: by selecting it from your grub menu http://termbin.com/1lkz
[18:49] <tatertotz> qp: as per http://termbin.com/1lkz it's in your grub
[18:50] <tatertotz> qp: sorry you can't read that in your country
[18:50] <IntelCore> oh, btw.. my hp battery is dead, need new one, and boots via electric plug
[18:50] <tatertotz> nacc: can you read http://termbin.com/1lkz yes or no
[18:50] <trey> dax: thank you!
[18:51] <nacc> tatertotz: yes, why do you ask?
[18:51] <tatertotz> nacc: now what were you saying again.....nevermind ....we'll discuss some other time
[18:51] <qp> tatertotz: can you please set my gfx drivers correctly , it have hybrid gfx
[18:51] <IntelCore> will that affect the way grub boots.. still an old battery in the laptop?
[18:51] <nacc> IntelCore: no, grub doesn't know what a battery is
[18:51] <nacc> IntelCore: unless your hardware is buggy, then your system is ... well buggy
[18:52] <IntelCore> otay. acpi comes up then the grub re-boot.. i hit return again.. and acpi again/clamAV.. and then it booted
[18:52] <dax> tatertotz: I assume you don't mean it as such, but the "yes or no" and "true or false" comes off as demanding, and your questions would work equally well without it.
[18:53] <nacc> IntelCore: not sure i understand ... clamav?
[18:53] <nacc> IntelCore: hit return where?
[18:53] <IntelCore> clam anti virus checl.
[18:53] <tatertotz> A and B conversation
[18:53] <tatertotz> C
[18:53] <tatertotz> ...
[18:53] <kostkon> IntelCore, right after grub?
[18:54] <IntelCore> grub gives a menu to load ubuntu.. i hit return and ubuntu loads
[18:54] <qp> tatertotz: try to boot in 4.10 ?
[18:54] <IntelCore> dual boot laptop
[18:54] <nacc> IntelCore: why is your system rebooting due to clamav?
[18:54] <nacc> IntelCore: that doesn't seem right at all
[18:54] <tatertotz> if i don't address you directly....i ain't talking to you..and probably don't want to...ever
[18:54] <tatertotz> clear
[18:55] <tatertotz> speak when spoken to
[18:55] <IntelCore> nacc - it goes to the grub menu a second time before it booted
[18:55] <tatertotz> if i didn't speak to YOU
[18:55] <nacc> !who | tatertotz
[18:55] <kostkon> tatertotz, uncalled for (everyone in here)
[18:56] <nacc> dax: thankns
[18:56] <qp> wtf
[18:56] <qp> he was helping me
[18:56] <nacc> qp: did they actually help you?
[18:56] <kostkon> qp, not with that attitude
[18:56] <nacc> qp: or did they just have you go around in a big circle?
[18:57] <nacc> qp: afaict, you've not made any progress from yesterday
[18:57] <SimonNL> or day before
[18:57] <qp> but he was trying
[18:57] <IntelCore> Well, I have made progress
[18:57] <qp> and was teaching me how to deal with it
[18:57] <qp> someone please help me
[18:58] <nacc> qp: i thought they were telling you to reboot to 4.10? that's not what you want to do (it will never get the kpti fixes, e.g)
[18:58] <IntelCore> Since this 'change' for these vulnerabilities.. Kernels have changed way my grub boots.. first time was getting a replaced update for grub to boot just fine
[18:58] <qp> nacc: ?
[18:58] <IntelCore> so ok kool
[18:58] <nacc> !kpti > qp
[18:59] <IntelCore> now, grub don't like 112-generic
[18:59] <nacc> qp: can you paraphrase your issue in one line?
[18:59] <qp> nacc: meltdown means heating issue right?
[18:59] <nacc> qp: no, it's a serious security issue with processors
[18:59] <IntelCore> gimme a moment re-boot
[19:00] <nacc> qp: read the blurb from ubottu, which i think has links to the docs
[19:00] <nacc> qp: you really don't want to be running 4.10
[19:00] <qp> nacc: and cause battery drain when laptop is off?
[19:00] <nacc> qp: no, it has nothing to do with your battery
[19:00] <nacc> qp: afaict, your battery draining if off is a hardware issue
[19:00] <nacc> qp: possibly a defective battery
[19:01] <qp> nacc: only happen when ubuntu is installed not with win10
[19:01] <nacc> qp: what does that mean? it happens when the laptop is off
[19:01] <nacc> qp: so I don't follow what you are referring to
[19:01] <qp> nacc: it dont happen when i have win 10 installed
[19:01] <nacc> qp: or do you mean you *only* had windows 10 before, and the battery didn't drain; and then you installed ubuntu (erasing windows) and now it does?
[19:01] <qp> nacc: yes
[19:02] <lotuspsychje> nacc: i suggested him laptop-mode-tools earlier, he said didnt work
[19:02] <nacc> qp: sounds like possibly a buggy BIOS -- it's also not impossible that the hardware is defective and windows did some ACPI trickery to workaround it
[19:02] <IntelCore> Thanks
[19:03] <nacc> qp: does it happen with all ubuntu you've tried?
[19:03] <qp> nacc: yes
[19:03] <nacc> lotuspsychje: yeah that's a good though
[19:03] <nacc> *thought
[19:03] <nacc> qp: then it seems like possibly incompatibility with your laptop and linux
[19:03] <nacc> qp: have you googled if others with the exact same model of laptop report the same issue?
[19:03] <IntelCore> ok, 16.04lts kernel 112-generic makes my grub - not work
[19:03] <SimonNL> removing battery after shutdown solved it.
[19:03] <qp> nacc: this modal is not very popular
[19:04] <siva_machina> grub comes up before the kernel.... to the best of my knowledge grub controls how the kernel boots.
[19:04] <qp> nacc: hp ay008tx
[19:04] <IntelCore> ay eye, grub presents a load screen, then goes to find what you select
[19:05] <nacc> qp: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2018202
[19:05] <nacc> qp: did you try turning of WOL?
[19:05] <IntelCore> So, since this 112 update, grub returns to that load screen
[19:05] <qp> nacc: dont have that option in my bios and lan is not connected with my laptop
[19:06] <IntelCore> to work around, I select advanced option, fin kernel 109
[19:06] <nacc> qp: see the last comment in that post, perhaps
[19:07] <qp> nacc: it is very old
[19:07] <nacc> qp: what is?
[19:07] <lotuspsychje> IntelCore: can you please not spam random lines here
[19:08] <lotuspsychje> qp: might be interesting https://askubuntu.com/questions/225126/how-to-improve-battery-life-on-a-hp-pavilion-dv6
[19:09] <qp> nacc: plz explain it
[19:09] <nacc> qp: explain what?
[19:09] <qp> nacc: what you was saying
[19:09] <nacc> qp: ... i said read the forum post?
[19:10] <qp> nacc: yes , but it didnt say my laptop is not compatiable for linux
[19:10] <kappa1> what's the tool that compresses text files the most?
[19:10] <IntelCore> isssss this what i gotta do?
[19:10] <nacc> qp: did anyone say it *was* compatible with Linux?
[19:11] <IntelCore> https://usn.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-3522-3/
[19:11] <qp> nacc: no
[19:11] <nacc> IntelCore: what actually happens (maybe take a video) when you boot the 112 kerne
[19:12] <mmkumr> When I am booting ubuntu it is showing error 'usb 3-1.1: device descriptor read/64, error -110'.
[19:12] <i-make-robots> I added a user ftp, created the home directory, set permissions, and the password.  I can sudo login ftp.  i set up vsftp with ftp as the only valid user.  when i sudo ftp localhost login with ftp/[password for ftp] it denies login.  any idea why?
[19:12] <qp> nacc: i should use windows only ?
[19:12] <IntelCore> nacc - i can't vid the boot
[19:12] <nacc> qp: i don't know; that's your choice. You could also try the workaround as mentioned in the forum post
[19:12] <nacc> qp: or what lotuspsychje found
[19:13] <qp> nacc: how?
[19:13] <lotuspsychje> qp: how fast does your battery drain?
[19:13] <qp> 20 percent in a day
[19:13] <nacc> qp: read the forum post and do what they suggst (page 2 last comment has instructions)
[19:13] <lotuspsychje> qp: that makes no sense
[19:13] <nacc> i-make-robots: did you check the vsftp logs?
[19:14] <qp> lotuspsychje: ?
[19:14] <nacc> i-make-robots: wait, what? why do you 'sudo login vsftp'?
[19:14] <IntelCore> er, qp?
[19:14] <lotuspsychje> qp: you can use your battery 5 days? each day 20%?
[19:14] <i-make-robots> what?  no.  i'm not.  i can sudo login ftp.
[19:14] <nacc> i-make-robots: what does that mean? you are logging in as the ftp user to ubuntu? or you are logging into ftp?
[19:15] <IntelCore> qp, my i5 batt started to drain, before it died
[19:15] <qp> lotuspsychje: left my laptop for a day
[19:15] <i-make-robots> logging in as the ftp user to ubuntu.
[19:15] <i-make-robots> oh!  I see
[19:15] <i-make-robots> i'm FTPing to ubuntu as user 'ftp'
[19:15] <qp> IntelCore: your laptop modal ?
[19:15] <timeless> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DevelopmentCodeNames -- anyone know why artful isn't on the list?
[19:16] <mmkumr> When I am booting ubuntu it is showing error 'xhcl_hcd 000:0300.0: Error unexpected setup address command completion code 0x24'.
[19:16] <IntelCore> yes hp 15 i5
[19:16] <qp> IntelCore: gfx card ?
[19:16] <IntelCore> no, no.. a standard graphic card..intel i think
[19:17] <nacc> timeless: dunno, it's a wiki though
[19:17] <qp> IntelCore: i have hybrid gfx card and mine is just a year old
[19:17] <nacc> i-make-robots: i still don't understand, you say you can 'login to ftp' but that you cannot ftp ... Can you use a pastebin, show exactly what works and doesn't?
[19:18] <nacc> i-make-robots: also, i'm sure there are vsftpd channels that can help
[19:18] <IntelCore> batt life said like 880 , but I had only carried the laptop around off electric plug three months
[19:18] <qp> nacc: do this ?  I just remove the battery after I turn the laptop off and put it back again. That is the only solution that seems to work for me.
[19:18] <nacc> i-make-robots: why do you need ftp, btw? you know how terrible it is, etc.? :)
[19:19] <IntelCore> qp - i did that also
[19:19] <nacc> qp: well that is one solutionn, but not the one i said, which is the *last* post in the forum article
[19:19] <antonm> Hi
[19:19] <qp> nacc: it will work in ubuntu 16.04 lts ?
[19:19] <nacc> qp: will what work?
[19:20] <qp> http://www.hecticgeek.com/2012/09/disabling-wake-on-lan-in-ubuntu-might-save-a-tiny-bit-of-power-on-your-laptop/
[19:20] <IntelCore> yeah without wol, tiny
[19:22] <nacc> qp: i don't know, perhaps?
[19:23] <qp> nacc: and my laptop is not suitable for linux ? please tell
[19:23] <dax> qp: if not, there's often an option in your BIOS/UEFI setup to turn it on or off
[19:23] <dax> which of course we'd not know much about, being as that isn't Ubuntu
[19:24] <IntelCore> mm,i did at bios
[19:24] <qp> trying it
[19:24] <qp> thx for help
[19:28] <IntelCore> a standard system upgrade will automatically
[19:29] <nacc> IntelCore: that's not a complete sentence and who are you talking to?
[19:29] <IntelCore> " Does that mean I might run an upgrade on 15.04lts and get those correct kernels?
[19:29] <nacc> IntelCore: 15.04?
[19:29] <nicomachus> IntelCore: if you're on 15.04 you have bigger problems.
[19:29] <nacc> IntelCore: what are you quoting?
[19:29] <IntelCore> https://usn.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-3522-3/
[19:30] <IntelCore> quoted that
[19:30] <kostkon> IntelCore, 16.04?
[19:30] <nacc> IntelCore: 15.04 is not an LTS
[19:30] <IntelCore>      linux-image-4.4.0-109-generic 4.4.0-109.132  --- I think that one worked
[19:31] <IntelCore> yes, a 16.04lts - 112-generic does not work when grub runs it
[19:31] <nacc> IntelCore: 4.4.0-109 is no longer supported, you should be on -112
[19:31] <nacc> IntelCore: so as mentioned, debug what is wrong with 112
[19:31] <nacc> IntelCore: (that usn is from 2 weeks ago)
[19:32] <IntelCore> so, grub returns to the menu. where I either select 112-gen again, or choose 109
[19:32] <nacc> IntelCore: it doesn't even try to boot the kernel?
[19:32] <IntelCore> it trys
[19:32] <IntelCore> whump, goes back to grub
[19:33] <IntelCore> using 109-generic right now
[19:33] <IntelCore> nacc - you know I should be using a signed kernel.. if so
[19:34] <nacc> IntelCore: what do you mean "tries"?
[19:35] <IntelCore> it goes.. grub goes to find, and does acpi, then halts back to grub
[19:35] <lotuspsychje> !text | IntelCore errors please?
[19:35] <IntelCore> grub 2 - i think
[19:36] <IntelCore> link is bad
[19:37] <IntelCore> Internal Server Error
[19:37] <lotuspsychje> IntelCore: works here
[19:37] <insectorx> Hi, I was planning on trying Ubuntu today, but when i used unetbootin to make a usb it wouldn't boot.  The boot hung as soon as it said somethingn about syslinux
[19:38] <lotuspsychje> insectorx: wich Os are you making the usb from?
[19:38] <insectorx> Ubuntu Mate 17.10
[19:38] <kostkon> insectorx, there's also rufus and etcher you could try out
[19:39] <insectorx> ok I will try that,   thanks
[19:39] <lotuspsychje> insectorx: you can try also the ubuntu usb creator
[19:39] <insectorx> is the ubuntu usb creator for windows 7?
[19:39] <lotuspsychje> !usb | insectorx
[19:40] <lotuspsychje> insectorx: universal usb install is for windows
[19:40] <lotuspsychje> installer
[19:40] <insectorx> ive looked up lots of tutorials on how to do the install, but none address this error.
[19:40] <IntelCore> nacc - advanced options lets Grub - allow you to select kernel.. upstart the boot, or boot repair mode.
[19:41] <insectorx> i did everything it said.   but now i'm gonna go try a different program to write this usb.  i'll return if it doesn't work.  thank you
[19:41] <lotuspsychje> insectorx: unetbootin gives those errors sometimes..try other tools suggested
[19:41] <insectorx> cool
[19:42] <lotuspsychje> IntelCore: we need errors, otherwise we cant help you...
[19:43] <lotuspsychje> IntelCore: try to catch your errors on boot, by textboot or F1
[19:43] <shazbotmcnasty> Hey might anyone know how to add a menu entry for an EFI live disk on my PXE server?
[19:43] <Menzador> IntelCore - HTTP 500 means try again later
[19:44] <shazbotmcnasty> Or if anyone has examples of menu entries for other EFI based live disks that would be sweet
[19:44] <lotuspsychje> !efi | shazbotmcnasty
[19:44] <shazbotmcnasty> That's not helpful at all thanks
[19:47] <IntelCore> --- Grub. might be da problemo
[19:47] <ikonia> "the problem"
[19:47] <ikonia> try to keep it to clear english please
[19:48] <IntelCore> I read the link, that is now working, and I do not have ubuntu boot like that. Grub boots my unbutu
[19:50] <IntelCore> grub.cfg. It is the product of various scripts and should not normally be edited directly.
[19:50] <IntelCore> hmm, so how i see?
[19:51] <ikonia> you can edit it directly to test things, but it's really better to correctly generate it
[19:52] <nacc> shazbotmcnasty: i'm not sure why an efi live disk would be different?
[19:52] <ikonia> it's just a text file
[19:54] <sim642> My xubuntu clock suddenly is 2 hours ahead, any ideas?
[19:54] <nacc> sim642: possibly your timezone is wrong?
[19:54] <ikonia> what clock source is it syncing against
[19:54] <sim642> nacc, it's still right
[19:54] <sim642> AFAIK it's always been synced with ntp
[19:55] <nacc> sim642: syslog should said if an ntp sync just occurred
[19:56] <IntelCore> eh
[19:57] <sim642> Don't see anything about sync in there
[19:57] <IntelCore> more updates
[19:58] <naturalog> hi, im trying to modify /etc/resolv.conf (on a new xubuntu installation 17.10) and it doesnt solve the problem even temporarily (no dns at all)
[19:59] <ikonia> why are you messing with resolv.conf before understanding the problem
[19:59] <sim642> timedatectl output is very weird too: universal time is what is my actual local time
[19:59] <naturalog> i wish i understood the problem, any link/explanation?
[20:01] <IntelCore> dns is ip provider, or you can find dns via google and other ways for reverse resolving dns
[20:01] <nacc> naturalog: what is the problem?
[20:01] <nacc> naturalog: you said ... i'm trying to modify /etc/resolv.conf; why?
[20:01] <naturalog> no dns, fresh install
[20:01] <ikonia> so why mess with resolv.conf
[20:02] <nacc> naturalog: you are unable to resolve names?
[20:02] <ikonia> you don't know what the problem is yet
[20:02] <nacc> naturalog: what ahppens when you try (e.g., with dig, nslookup, systemd-resolve)
[20:02] <naturalog> yes it doesnt resolve names no matter how
[20:03] <nacc> naturalog: providing logs would help, the error codes are usually descriptive
[20:03] <nacc> naturalog: and what is currently in your /etc/resolv.connf
[20:03] <nacc> (in a pastebin)
[20:03] <naturalog> it's always rolling back to 127.0.0.53
[20:03] <ikonia> thats fine
[20:03] <nacc> naturalog: that's systemd-resolved
[20:03] <ikonia> hence why Im asking you why you are messing with resolv.conf
[20:03] <nacc> naturalog: you don't generally edit /etc/resolv.conf directly anymore
[20:03] <naturalog> cause all guides on google told me to do so
[20:04] <naturalog> so i concluded google=bad irc=good
[20:04] <nacc> naturalog: you want to use systemd-resolve and see what it reports
[20:04] <nacc> naturalog: were any of those guides written for 17.10?
[20:04] <naturalog> sure
[20:05] <naturalog> systemd-resolve mozilla.com   still waiting
[20:05] <nacc> naturalog: e.g., systemd-resolve www.google.com or whatever
[20:05] <naturalog> (cant copy paste from that machine now)
[20:05] <naturalog> stuck for long already
[20:05] <nacc> naturalog: why not?
[20:05] <nacc> !pastebinit | naturalog
[20:05] <naturalog> yes i know anyway i just got "query timed out"
[20:06] <nacc> naturalog: `systemd-resolve --status` in a pastebi
[20:06] <IntelCore> your ip provider dns ip won't work?
[20:06] <naturalog> you want me to pastebin from a dns-less machine
[20:07] <nacc> naturalog: you obviously have a machine that has dns, right?
[20:07] <naturalog> in global i see all arpas and in link 2 i see the right servers i put
[20:07] <naturalog> right but is not connected to that other machine
[20:07] <nacc> naturalog: so you can use | nc termbin.com 9999 after looking up the ip of termbin.com
[20:08] <ioria>    | nc 5.39.93.71 9999
[20:08] <nacc> ioria: thanks :)
[20:08] <ioria> lol
[20:08] <naturalog> done
[20:08] <naturalog> now what?
[20:08] <nacc> give us that urll
[20:09] <nacc> it will spit out a url
[20:09] <naturalog> got no url
[20:09] <naturalog> got nothing
[20:09] <nacc> naturalog: what did you type? `systemd-resolve --status | nc 5.39.93.71 9999` ?
[20:09] <naturalog> exactly
[20:09] <nacc> naturalog: and it did not emit a termbin.com url?
[20:10] <nacc> naturalog: are you sure you have network connectivity?
[20:10] <naturalog> returned like the c program "return 0"
[20:10] <naturalog> im writing right now from another pc using same adsl router
[20:10] <ioria> naturalog, ping 8.8.8.8
[20:10] <nacc> naturalog: that isn't releavnt if that computer does not have connectivity
[20:10] <naturalog> right
[20:11] <akik> !info usb-modeswitch xenial
[20:11] <naturalog> i had ping, now somehow i dont
[20:11] <ioria> naturalog, are you with NM ?
[20:12] <naturalog> yes
[20:12] <ioria> naturalog, dhcp or static ?
[20:12] <emin> dhcp
[20:12] <naturalog> now im trying dhcp. was static
[20:13] <nacc> emin: why did you answer for naturalog ?
[20:13] <ioria> naturalog, so, reverto to static
[20:13] <emin> idk
[20:13] <nacc> emin: please don't do that.
[20:13] <emin> ok
[20:14] <emin> bye
[20:14] <naturalog> now i really have no conenction at all no idea why
[20:15] <IntelCore> on my grub difficulty, i did, sudo update-grub. it found what I indeed have on the laptop. I will reboot now
[20:15] <nacc> naturalog: right, so i think the issue is nothing to do with DNS, your system does not have networking
[20:15] <naturalog> it had before i reinstalled ubuntu
[20:15] <nacc> naturalog: i'm not sure why that's relevant? all i said was you don't currently have networking
[20:16] <ioria> naturalog,  we assume a real 'Xubuntu' install and not a mini.iso + Xubuntu desktop .... right ?  'cause your /etc/netplan might be wrong
[20:16] <nacc> naturalog: what was there before?
[20:16] <naturalog> yes i mean im tryuing same config
[20:16] <naturalog> apparently
[20:16] <naturalog> ubuntu 17.04 -> xubuntu 17.10
[20:16] <naturalog> complete format
[20:18] <ioria> naturalog,  check your 'ip a'
[20:18] <jnewt> just realized i don't know how to capture an image of a window tried Print Screen, bunch of combinations with ctrl, alt & shift.   on 16.04 with cinnamon de.
[20:19] <jnewt> nothing in clipboard, created ~/Pictures folder, nothing in there, nothing new in ~/
[20:20] <ioria> !info scrot
[20:20] <IntelCore>  :}  works with 2 purple screens
[20:20] <jnewt> that for me?  i need to have that installed for my print screen button to work?
[20:21] <nacc> jnewt: on stock ubuntu, prscr just works
[20:21] <nacc> jnewt: you'd need to check cinnamon docs, i guess
[20:21] <ioria> jnewt, you capuld make a custom shortcut
[20:21] <ioria> *coukld
[20:23] <IntelCore> ty.  Much to do
[20:30] <CoJaBo> Does Kubuntu 17.10 have automatic updates without asking or something? If so, how do I turn that off?
[20:34] <Sagitt> hi
[20:35] <Sagitt> there is a way to use in a script "killall -9 processname && command2"
[20:35] <nacc> Sagitt: that should work if killall -9 does kill something
[20:35] <nacc> Sagitt: what is your intention?
[20:36] <Sagitt> kiall all process for name and execute new command
[20:36] <Sagitt> so "restart" the program
[20:36] <Sagitt> like kilall homebridge && homebridge
[20:36] <krmar> chrom
[20:37] <nacc> Sagitt: is homebridge guaranteed to be running already?
[20:37] <Sagitt> yes
[20:37] <Sagitt> is for his webserver plugin
[20:37] <nacc> Sagitt: then that hsould work, iiuc
[20:38] <xgpt> Looking for suggestions for non-raspberry-pi (they're too expensive compared to alternatives) single board computers, I want something that's just as highly reliable as a raspberry pi, and I'm willing to take significant performance cuts to have it, I want to spend as little as possible on this board as possible, and I want a "Just works" experience, just like installing the most popular operating systems on
[20:38] <xgpt> the raspberry pi would get me. Suggestions?
[20:38] <nacc> xgpt: wrong channe?
[20:38] <nacc> xgpt: this is the ubuntu support channell; maybe you wanted ##hardware or something
[20:39] <Sagitt> what nacc ?
[20:39] <xgpt> nacc: i'd like support for Ubuntu though as a strong possibility, just like to ask the ubuntu people if they've got an experience with these single board computers and running ubuntu on it specifically
[20:41] <nacc> Sagitt: what you wrote should work, if i understand correctly
[20:41] <Sagitt> won't work :(
[20:41] <CoJaBo> I haven't seen anything cheaper than pi, but still remotely well-supported lol
[20:42] <Sagitt> kill the process too
[20:42] <nacc> Sagitt: ... you aren't giving many details
[20:42] <Sagitt> sorry, kill the script too
[20:42] <jnewt> ioria: the shortcuts are set up, i added another to it to see if it would work (CTRL+ALT+P) and it did not.
[20:42] <nacc> Sagitt: did you name your script 'homebridge'?
[20:42] <Sagitt> ehm ehm... :D
[20:42] <nacc> Sagitt: which is a *terrible* name
[20:42] <nacc> Sagitt: since it is a restart script, not a running script
[20:42] <nacc> Sagitt: use good names for things and you don't have such problems :)
[20:43] <Sagitt> i'll try
[20:43] <Sagitt> :D
[20:43] <jnewt> aha, it thinks my print screen button is L ?
[20:44] <Sagitt> works :(
[20:45] <sfdebug> hi... is there someone here that had a ubuntu 14.04 and after click on "upgrade to 16.04" had some problem after the upgrade, something like program stopped working or other bad thing?
[20:56] <Guest31454> hello
[21:05] <magic_1> Hi all.
[21:05] <magic_1> Is there a way to stop ubuntu from auto dismounting my external drives after a while
[21:07] <magic_1> This happens randomly though
[21:07] <magic_1> Even while I am busy using the drive.
[21:10] <jimb_> magic_1, I won't be able to offer a lot of help/time with this, but I don't think it's Ubuntu auto-dismounting the drives. The only times I have experienced drives being dismounted as I think you are is when there is an issue with the bus/etc. Are these USB drives?
[21:11] <magic_1> jimb_, Thank you. That could be. However. What I have found. When this was happening in windows, There was a power setting I had changed which caused it to stop happening. Hence me covering all bases.
[21:12] <magic_1> jimb_, However I will look into that as well.
[21:12] <CoderEurope> sim642, yes my clock launched itself over-night aswell, dunno why ?
[21:13] <jimb_> magic_1, It could be some power setting, although I wasn't aware of one (even in windows) that would eject a drive while not idle.
[21:15] <magic_1> jimb_, On my other laptop, where I am running windows, I had the same problem, did some googlying and found that it was quite an obscure power setting. A sort of sub of a sub setting type thing.
[21:16] <magic_1> jimb_, When I bought the drives over to my ubuntu laptop. It started happening again.
[21:27] <ericus> what would be the best way to verify that I have 17.10? I tried to upgrade from 16.04, got a error message saying something I cant recall
[21:27] <ericus> lsb_release -a says 17.10
[21:28] <ericus> My XFCE session is also broken, can only login on Ubuntu Mate
[21:41] <nicomachus> ericus: lsb_relase -a shows it. so you're on 17.10. You can verify that 'sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade' show repos for Artful
[21:41] <nicomachus> ericus: as far as your XFCE session, occasionally that will have to be reinstalled after an EOL upgrade so that it picks up any missing dependencies.
[21:43] <ericus> https://paste.ubuntu.com/26460645/
[21:43] <ericus> EOL upgrade nicomachus?
[21:45] <nicomachus> Looks like a good upgade. And I read wrong, you weren't doing an EOL upgrade, but the path from 16.04 to 17.10 can be tricky. May be best to just reinstall the xfce desktop package anyway.
[21:47] <converge> I can login remotely on my local network, but when I try to login outside my network, it always says permission denied, anyone knows what could be wrong ?
[21:49] <michael2> hi, does anyone know of a command to get unity version?
[21:50] <michael2> doh, its $ unity --version
[21:51] <nicomachus> converge: how are you logging in?
[21:51] <converge> nicomachus, converge@my.ip -p 2222
[21:53] <nicomachus> converge: make sure the port is open. make sure that your username and IP are correct (you'll need external IP for remote logins). and make sure you're formatting your command correctly.
[21:53] <ericus> Banshee/Rhythmbox won't play music since upgrade to 17.10
[21:53] <nicomachus> converge: do you have fail2ban or anything set up on the machine you're trying to access?
[21:53] <ericus> pavucontrol shows it muted, I cannot unmute it
[21:54] <raidghost> To reboot a ubuntu server when raid is rebuilding. would that make any damage?
[21:54] <converge> nicomachus, ip is correct, port is open (checked), command is correct
[21:55] <converge> nicomachus, no logs at /var/log/auth.log as well
[21:56] <nicomachus> converge: that may mean the attempt isn't even reaching the target
[21:56] <nicomachus> converge: when the connection fails, what step does it fail at? Do you even get a password prompt?
[21:57] <ericus> teamspeak audio and youtube works at the same time, but not teamspeak and banshee
[21:57] <converge> nicomachus, I do get the password prompt, after type the password I get: Permission denied, please try again.
[21:57] <nicomachus> and is it "permission denied" or "unreachable"?
[21:57] <converge> But I can login localy
[21:58] <converge> nicomachus, sounds like a NAT issue ?
[21:59] <nicomachus> converge: i'm not sure, I get a bit lost once we get past basic troubleshooting on networking issues.
[22:00] <akik> converge: if you don't get logs for ssh connections, you might be hitting some other server
[22:05] <JyZyXEL> can a LVM roofs-snapshot be removed while rootfs itself is mounted and in use?
[22:07] <converge> nicomachus, akik: It was hitting another local server here, appreciate your help guys
[22:10] <nicomachus> o/
[22:15] <varaindemian> what makes ubuntu better than fedora and opensuse
[22:16] <hsiktas> nicer default wallpaper :P
[22:16] <insectorx> i'm trying out ubuntu for the first time.  I went to install spotify and the install failed.  Will spotify work?  Because this would be a dealbreaker for me
[22:16] <mitchell> hello
[22:17] <nacc> varaindemian: that's not really a topic for this channel
[22:17] <nacc> varaindemian: try them all, use what you want
[22:17] <varaindemian> I keep getting a report error screen after I turn my the machine (17.10)
[22:18] <nacc> insectorx: spotify was recently released as a snap
[22:18] <nacc> insectorx: i would use that, if possible
[22:18] <nacc> insectorx: how did you try to install it?
[22:18] <insectorx> what's a snap?
[22:18] <nacc> !snappy | insectorx
[22:18] <nacc> insectorx: hrm, doesn't really answer your question
[22:18] <nacc> insectorx: it's a new packaging format
[22:19] <insectorx> i was trying to install the program through the software boutique
[22:19] <insectorx> this is my first day messing with this stuff
[22:19] <nacc> insectorx: 'boutique'? are you on mate?
[22:19] <insectorx> yes.  i have a slightly older machine, and i heard that was the one to get
[22:20] <nicomachus> insectorx: snap is the best way to install spotify now, unfortunately. Even more unfortunately, the desktop client is still extremely buggy.
[22:20] <nacc> although as a snap, filing bugs with them should mean you get fixes much faster than the deb
[22:20] <insectorx> is it too difficult of a process to tell me how to do it here?
[22:20] <nacc> insectorx: sudo snap install spotify
[22:21] <nicomachus> nacc: that would require them to respond to bugs and actually work on development of the client.
[22:21] <nacc> should be all you need
[22:21] <nicomachus> :)
[22:21] <nacc> nicomachus: afaik, they do
[22:21] <nacc> nicomachus: but i've not used it
[22:21] <nacc> nicomachus: also, wer eyou trying stable or candidate?
[22:22] <insectorx> ?
[22:22] <nacc> insectorx: what is your question?
[22:22] <insectorx> nothing
[22:22] <nicomachus> nacc: stable
[22:22] <nacc> nicomachus: did you try candidate?
[22:22] <nacc> nicomachus: seems like an easy first step :)
[22:24] <Sharoa> hi there, just wondering, if ubuntu reaches something like 98% cpu usage (some really high number), can the OS reject any new processes that want to be run?
[22:25] <nacc> Sharoa: no, that generally doesn't happen
[22:25] <Sharoa> ah ok
[22:25] <Sharoa> just wondering. thanks!
[22:56] <ericus> Why do I have to mute either Teamspeak or Banshee to get sound output from one of them? Not both at once http://i.imgur.com/dlUopa3.png
[22:58] <courrier> Hey, I'm getting "deauthenticating from 00:26:f2:db:f0:a5 by local choice (Reason: 3=DEAUTH_LEAVING)"  messages in dmesg on a regular basis (and I can see the network manager disconnecting and reconnecting by itself 5 sec later), any clue to get rid of these deauth?
[23:03] <Jordan_U> courrier: Is your AP possibly changing channels as described here: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/243280/how-to-fix-deauthentication-by-local-choice ? Are there other SSIDs on the same channel that may be causing interference? Is this 5ghz or 2.4 ghz? If your AP is providing both, does the 5Ghz network have a different SSID than the 2.4Ghz?
[23:07] <courrier> Jordan_U: 2.4GHz, but this is the only laptop I'm experiencing this issue, all others who tested my Wifi (Ubuntu, Mint, Windows, MacOS, Android, ...) never complained about disconnections/reconnections, can it be specific to this hardware setup? software?
[23:07] <courrier> I'm gonna check the density of networks
[23:07] <courrier> and their channel
[23:10] <Jordan_U> courrier: It could be a buggy driver.
[23:14] <courrier> Jordan_U: there are a lot of ch1, 6 and 11, mine is 9, the best compromise :D
[23:17] <Jordan_U> courrier: In case you didn't know, 2.4Ghz channels actually overlap so channel 9 will get (some) interference from both the channel 6 users and the channel 11 users: https://programmingsoul.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/2-4ghz-wifi-channels-3-overlapping.png
[23:19] <Jordan_U> courrier: Is it your AP that is limited to 2.4Ghz, your wireless card, or both? (5Ghz has far fewer problems with interference)
[23:45] <Guest50823> oi
[23:45] <Guest50823> anyone alive
[23:46] <Guest50823> ffs
[23:46] <Guest50823> exit
[23:55] <MrVamps> can some one direct to me where i can info on gettin the ubuntu base to create my own Ubuntu Desktop