[00:13] <tgBot1> <seshpenguin> Hm, I tried using libertine to install a desktop app but it just keeps closing when I open it
[00:25] <tgBot1> <dohbee> Nexus 5?
[00:28] <tgBot1> <seshpenguin> yep
[00:29] <tgBot1> <dohbee> Known issue. A problem with xmir there it seems
[00:29] <tgBot1> <seshpenguin> So many issues lol 😄
[00:30] <tgBot1> <dohbee> Computers are like that
[00:30] <tgBot1> <seshpenguin> yeeep
[00:30] <tgBot1> <KrisJacewicz> @seshpenguin, if u want to mess around join ATU group and mess around with us, make rootfs writable, or resize it to bigger, or whatever: @AllThingsUbuntu
[00:31] <tgBot1> <seshpenguin> Oh ok!
[02:39] <tgBot1> Seven was added by: Seven
[02:44] <tgBot1> <Seven> Is ubuntu touch compatible with the 5x nexus? or not?
[03:52] <tgBot1> sudanisayfree was added by: sudanisayfree
[03:53] <tgBot1> <sudanisayfree> Can I install ubuntu touch to Samsung gt-S5282 DUOS
[03:56] <tgBot1> <Montefrio> Samsung gt-S5282 Duos,
[03:56] <tgBot1> <Montefrio> no
[03:56] <tgBot1> <sudanisayfree> Why ?
[03:56] <tgBot1> <Montefrio> nobody port it to this device
[03:57] <tgBot1> <Montefrio> https://ubports.com/
[03:57] <tgBot1> <Montefrio> please read this website
[03:57] <tgBot1> <sudanisayfree> I read it
[03:58] <tgBot1> <Montefrio> https://ubports.com/devices/ready-to-use-devises
[03:58] <tgBot1> <Montefrio> maybe you could buy a Nexus 5 Smartphone on ebay
[03:59] <tgBot1> <sudanisayfree> But all port are for few handsets
[03:59] <tgBot1> <Lyokanthrope> Porting isn't easy.
[03:59] <tgBot1> <Montefrio> Ubuntu Touch is since April 2017 only community work
[03:59] <tgBot1> <sudanisayfree> Not all handset
[04:00] <tgBot1> <Montefrio> Canonical have giving it up
[04:00] <tgBot1> <sudanisayfree> I see
[04:00] <tgBot1> <Montefrio> your Samsung is to old too
[04:01] <tgBot1> <Montefrio> week chipset
[04:04] <tgBot1> <sudanisayfree> I installed ) ubports installer ) on my Windows OS PC  it give me a letter " uncaught type error : devices.sort is not a function ( main renderer:423 )"
[04:07] <tgBot1> <sudanisayfree> محمد عبدو: … I installed ) ubports installer ) on my Windows OS PC  it give me a letter " uncaught type error : devices.sort is not a function ( main renderer:423 )"
[04:19] <tgBot1> <sudanisayfree> @Montefrio, 😳
[04:20] <tgBot1> <sudanisayfree> @Montefrio, 😳
[04:22] <tgBot1> <sudanisayfree> @Montefrio, That means it can be installed on it
[04:22] <tgBot1> <Montefrio> yes,because your device is not listed , there is no
[04:22] <tgBot1> <sudanisayfree> Ok
[04:22] <tgBot1> <Montefrio> no it cannot
[04:23] <tgBot1> <sudanisayfree> How can I create a port
[04:23] <tgBot1> <Montefrio> do you have developing skills?
[04:24] <tgBot1> <sudanisayfree> Yes
[04:25] <tgBot1> <Lyokanthrope> ever built or ported Android roms before?
[04:25] <tgBot1> <Montefrio> https://docs.ubuntu.com/phone/en/devices/porting-new-device
[04:33] <tgBot1> <lungwitz> @sudanisayfree, It is actually pretty old haha
[04:33] <tgBot1> <sudanisayfree> @Lyokanthrope, Samsung GT-S5282 details : … 1- CPU :  1.0 GHz Cortex-A5 … 2 - GPU : Mali-300
[04:33] <tgBot1> <sudanisayfree> @Lyokanthrope, CyanogenMod 13
[04:35] <tgBot1> <sudanisayfree> @sudanisayfree, I used it to install foucs Firefox android  because the app works on Android version 7 and above
[04:36] <tgBot1> <sudanisayfree> @lungwitz, I hope If it works
[04:37] <tgBot1> <sudanisayfree> @Lyokanthrope, Built no
[04:38] <tgBot1> <lungwitz> Nor ported? What he's asking, I think, is if you ever coded/worked with code
[04:39] <tgBot1> <Lyokanthrope> I'm asking if he has any experience with compiling an android rom from source. Porting relies on a good chunk of knowledge surrounding that kind of stuff..
[04:39] <tgBot1> <sudanisayfree> @lungwitz, No
[04:39] <tgBot1> <sudanisayfree> @Lyokanthrope, No
[04:40] <tgBot1> <lungwitz> @Lyokanthrope, Exactly. What I meant was that installing a prebuilt rom doesn't count for your question
[04:40] <tgBot1> <Lyokanthrope> Fair'nuf
[04:40] <tgBot1> <lungwitz> 😁
[04:40] <tgBot1> <Lyokanthrope> It's recommended to know how the android build system works
[04:41] <tgBot1> <sudanisayfree> From where I start
[04:41] <tgBot1> <lungwitz> @Lyokanthrope, Sorry for being so ignorant, bur why?
[04:42] <tgBot1> <lungwitz> Isn't ubports supposed to run by itself without jvm or anything?
[04:43] <tgBot1> <Lyokanthrope> ubports relies on libhybris which requires some android bits and bobs to work properly.
[04:44] <tgBot1> <Lyokanthrope> When you port for a device you're usually adapting a device tree from LineageOS for use with ubports and/or halium, just with a lot of cruft removed. You're basically left with nothing more than the kernel and some 'core' services for hardware.
[04:45] <tgBot1> <Lyokanthrope> Blame OEMs and their proprietary blobs and out of tree drivers for requiring this mess
[04:48] <tgBot1> <Lyokanthrope> @sudanisayfree, Anyway, search around, check XDA and  etc and try to find source code for your device. Try building for it.
[04:50] <tgBot1> <sudanisayfree> @Lyokanthrope, 😳
[04:51] <tgBot1> <lungwitz> 🤔
[04:51] <tgBot1> <Lyokanthrope> 🤷‍♂️
[04:52] <tgBot1> <lungwitz> It is what it is 😝
[05:06] <tgBot1> <sudanisayfree> Developers you have experience on porting too many devices but I don't have the experience too that .... … Mr lyo faelan
[05:09] <tgBot1> <sudanisayfree> Developers of Ubuntu Touch , …  You have the  experience on porting too many devices but I don't have the experience too that .... … Can you help me , installe ubuntu touch on my handset Samsung GT-S5282 DUOS
[05:21] <tgBot1> <Lyokanthrope> Not without one
[06:03] <tgBot1> <jonny> @sudanisayfree, There is a halium group where you can get help with the porting.
[06:12] <tgBot1> <jonny> https://t.me/halium
[06:23] <tgBot1> <JBBgameich> Before starting a port, make sure the device has a kernel newer than 3.1
[06:23] <tgBot1> <JBBgameich> 2.6 won't work
[09:14] <tgBot1> <Stereofont> @sudanisayfree, Welcome! Also to Seven! Ask questions, join in. Glad to have you in our community. https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome for lots of newcomer information 🚪
[09:26] <tgBot1> <Stereofont> @sudanisayfree, Sorry that we do not have an Arabic group. For a expert with high ability it will take maybe four or five months with a lot of work to port a phone. Your phone has low power and lots of special Samsung difficulties. Honestly, there will never be a port
[10:35] <tgBot1> <rogieroudshoorn> has anyone managed to install a VM with the new mir ppa's?
[10:36] <tgBot1> <rogieroudshoorn> i can get the correct libwayland-server0 package and i wonder which ppa to use for it :)
[10:43] <tgBot1> <rogieroudshoorn> hmm bad endpoint, sorry
[11:58] <tgBot1> Aleksandr Lukin was added by: Aleksandr Lukin
[11:58] <tgBot1> <Aleksandr Lukin> meizu m2 note support ubtouch?
[12:00] <tgBot1> <malditobastardo> @Aleksandr Lukin, https://ubports.com/devices/ready-to-use-devises
[12:15] <tgBot1> <Aleksandr Lukin> SPASIBO+)
[12:18] <tgBot1> <malditobastardo> xorowo
[12:40] <tgBot1> <Jimmie Johnsson> Bit of a tech question, is ACL enabled on ubuntu touch in the stable version? Or is there some other similar access control scheme being used for the filesystem?
[12:42] <tgBot1> <Aleksandr Lukin> @malditobastardo, Good russian=))
[12:51] <tgBot1> <Stereofont> @Aleksandr Lukin, A Mediatek device, so it is very unlikely that anyone will attempt this
[12:53] <tgBot1> <dohbee> @Jimmie Johnsson, yes, there are access controls
[12:54] <tgBot1> <Jimmie Johnsson> Anyway to inspect ACL properties of folders/files from the included terminal app (or some other way)?
[12:56] <tgBot1> faizulhadiman was added by: faizulhadiman
[12:56] <tgBot1> <dohbee> what are you trying to accomplish exactly? reading apparmor rules will probably make you want to pull your eyes out with a spoon
[12:58] <tgBot1> <Jimmie Johnsson> Im trying to make a filecommander-like app. I tried putting it into unconfined mode but i think there maybe other reasons why it cant read certain paths or create directories/files where i want
[12:59] <tgBot1> <dohbee> where are you trying to create files?
[13:02] <tgBot1> <Jimmie Johnsson> Basically where ever the user pleases. Its meant to enable you to move files around as you like. It will need some sort of setting blocking folders off from users who dont want to risk messing up their setup but that is a later step i think
[13:04] <tgBot1> <Jimmie Johnsson> Seems like its basically cause the folder i am looking at have no permission for anyone except root which i guess is why dear app cant see it at all. access: Drwxr-xr-x root root
[13:05] <tgBot1> <Jimmie Johnsson> Last flag is what "everyone else" except root gets I guess?
[13:06] <tgBot1> <Jimmie Johnsson> Tried /home
[13:11] <tgBot1> <UniversalSuperBox> The only paths you are ever allowed to touch are in /etc/system-image/writable-paths
[13:12] <tgBot1> <UniversalSuperBox> And yes, the last group of permissions is the 'world' section, you would not have access in the case you posted.
[13:13] <tgBot1> <dohbee> well if it's unconfined, then it's just unix perms and most of / being read only
[13:14] <tgBot1> <dohbee> so user can write anywhere in /home/phablet, but to write outside that you will probably need elevated perms, for the writable locations
[13:14] <tgBot1> <dohbee> apps don't run as root
[13:16] <tgBot1> <wayneoutthere> @faizulhadiman, good day to you, @faizulhadiman !  Welcome to the group.  To get started, check out this 'welcome link'.  Any questions? I'm here to help.  https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome
[13:18] <tgBot1> <Jimmie Johnsson> @dohbee @UniversalSuperBox thanks for the help. I will dig into it more at home, but i think i have a bit of a better understanding.
[13:26] <tgBot1> <dohbee> de nada
[13:31] <tgBot1> gavinchancw was added by: gavinchancw
[13:36] <tgBot1> <milkor73> @gavinchancw, Hello Gavin and welcome!  I'm part of the UBports welcoming team.    … To help you get started, please take a look right away at our newcomers welcome page (https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome) and thanks again for joining us! :)
[13:37] <tgBot1> <gavinchancw> Hi Milan thanks for the welcome.
[13:37] <tgBot1> <gavinchancw> I'm here because I need help flashing UBports to my Ubuntu BQ M10.
[13:38] <tgBot1> <gavinchancw> I've downloaded the installer.
[13:38] <tgBot1> <gavinchancw> Turned on developer mode on the tablet.
[13:38] <tgBot1> <gavinchancw> Selected 15.04 Stable.
[13:39] <tgBot1> <gavinchancw> (Photo, 800x624) https://irc.ubports.com/gKVPAUV9/file_3920.jpg
[13:39] <tgBot1> <gavinchancw> The installer is stuck like this.
[13:39] <tgBot1> <gavinchancw> Tablet is in fastboot mode.
[13:40] <tgBot1> <gavinchancw> It's been some 20 minutes but nothing seems to be happening.
[13:40] <tgBot1> <sudanisayfree> @Stereofont, Why , scarring me
[13:40] <tgBot1> <gavinchancw> Is this normal?
[13:43] <tgBot1> <peternerlich> @gavinchancw, Please come to the Newcomers Room for install support.
[13:45] <tgBot1> <gavinchancw> Hi Peter. I just tried the link to the Newcomers Room but apparently the link is broken.
[13:45] <tgBot1> <peternerlich> What? Oh, that's bad news, I'll look into that. Go here: @WelcomePlus
[13:47] <tgBot1> <gavinchancw> Thanks. Cheers Peter.
[13:55] <tgBot1> <wayneoutthere> !! that's because of the website change
[13:55] <tgBot1> <wayneoutthere> I will fix! thanks for pointing that out
[14:00] <tgBot1> <wayneoutthere> @gavinchancw, this should now be fixed - apologies.  some pages were affected by website upgrade
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[15:51] <tgBot1> <Georgecloon> Is it normal that vibration doesn't work on a Oneplus One?
[16:29] <tgBot1> Lars Goran was added by: Lars Goran
[16:30] <tgBot1> <Lars Goran> does anyone know how to install ubuntu Touch on BQ Aquaris E 5 HD ubuntu Edition?
[16:32] <tgBot1> <Lars Goran> I tried UBports-installer.Couldnt go into Bootloader mode with usb-cable connected.I use Linux Mint on my pc😊
[16:32] <tgBot1> <rogieroudshoorn> did you install with —devmode ? sudo ?
[16:34] <tgBot1> <Flohack> Udev rules added?
[16:34] <tgBot1> <Lars Goran> no......I only had devmode on my phone
[16:35] <tgBot1> <Lars Goran> accordin to instructions i the installer, I put phone in dev mode
[16:36] <tgBot1> <Lars Goran> do I have to prepare the pc?
[16:44] <tgBot1> <KingJamez> What happens when you run the installer?
[16:45] <tgBot1> <KingJamez> With the installer, youstill need to select the phone manually
[16:46] <tgBot1> <KingJamez> Then hit install
[16:48] <tgBot1> <Lars Goran> I did......the phone stuck into fastboot mode and the installer just turning round.....
[16:48] <tgBot1> <Lars Goran> 😁
[16:52] <tgBot1> <Lars Goran> at first, when I connected phone to usb;I saw the maps on the phone on my pc,But when it entered fatboot mode it disappear on my pc..........
[17:07] <tgBot1> <KingJamez> Hmmm, try downloadind adb and fast boot.
[17:11] <tgBot1> <KingJamez> Make sue you have it set for usb debugging.
[17:17] <tgBot1> <dohbee> fastboot doesn't appear as it normally would on the pc
[18:26] <tgBot1> <Stereofont> @Georgecloon, The vibration controls are in two different places
[18:26] <tgBot1> <Georgecloon> @Stereofont, Nevermind it just vibrated from your notification
[18:28] <tgBot1> <Stereofont> @Georgecloon, Happy to be of service 😂
[18:28] <tgBot1> <Georgecloon> 😄
[18:29] <tgBot1> <Stereofont> @Lars Goran, The UBports Community is excited to annouce a brand new language group: Scandinavia [Norsk/Svenska/Dansk]! … Snakker du Norsk, Svenska eller Dansk? Bli med i UBports Scandinavia [Norsk/Svenska/Dansk] gruppen, jättebra! … Do you speak Scandinavian?  Join the UBports Scandinavian language group! … Klik her for å bli med nu: https://t.me/UBports_scandinavia … Click this to join now: https://t.me/UBports_scandinavia
[18:30] <tgBot1> <Stereofont> @Lars Goran, I suggest the Welcome Room for install help
[20:45] <tgBot1> <Miroslav> Hey all, maybe a stupid question, but is desktop version going to get some attention in ubports? I.e. wayland + further development?
[20:45] <tgBot1> <Miroslav> Is there a telerram group about the desktop version?
[20:58] <tgBot1> <dohbee> there is no difference. unity8 is meant to run across all devices.
[20:58] <tgBot1> <dohbee> so this would be the appropriate group for running the ubports repo builds of unity8
[21:46] <tgBot1> <Miroslav> is there some feedback how stable is it on desktop? there are some videos on yt from sorin, but there is very little info on official site about it
[21:47] <tgBot1> <Miroslav> or thngs like multimonitor displays having one hidpi + one regular?
[21:55] <tgBot1> <sudanisayfree> @hwpplayer1, I there !!!!!
[22:01] <tgBot1> <sudanisayfree> Why , Ubports community , doesn't support  language group in  Arabic
[22:01] <tgBot1> <Stereofont> @sudanisayfree, @Abdelmalik_Al_Meldawy
[22:02] <tgBot1> <Stereofont> We did not have members who speak Arabic. Maybe now we do?
[22:02] <tgBot1> <sudanisayfree> @Stereofont, I see
[22:03] <tgBot1> <Stereofont> @Stereofont, @SigmaOne
[22:03] <tgBot1> <sudanisayfree> السلام عليكم ، محمد من السودان
[22:04] <tgBot1> <Stereofont> I have pinged others to see if they wish to do this
[22:04] <tgBot1> <Stereofont> We welcome all languages
[22:06] <tgBot1> <Stereofont> @Stereofont, @alisahep
[22:57] <tgBot1> <wayneoutthere> This looks to be Arabic.  Do we have a Language Captain available for Arabic? :)
[22:58] <tgBot1> <Stereofont> That is the point of the pings
[22:58] <tgBot1> <Stereofont> We seem to have four possibles
[22:59] <tgBot1> <Stereofont> Late at night for them. Maybe someone will pick up tomorrow
[23:01] <tgBot1> <wayneoutthere> Nice.  Hopefuly
[23:49] <tgBot1> <UniversalSuperBox> "Salam alaikum, Mohamed from Sudan" … >As-salāmu ʿalaykum is a greeting in Arabic that means "peace be upon you".
[23:58] <tgBot1> <dohbee> @Miroslav, I think multi-monitor was never finished.