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brobostigonmorning boys and girls.08:34
BobMottram[m]G'day08:40
SuperMattfriday friday friday15:01
Azelphurgotta get down on friday?15:27
SuperMattOH GOD15:27
SuperMattYou had to remind us, didn't you?15:27
Azelphurhehe15:28
daftykinswe have it as a trigger in another channel (:15:28
daftykinsbit like a rick-rolling but without a good tune15:28
SuperMattIf it wasn't for the fact that no one is around much in the office on a friday, I'd have it blast out of the speakers of my work machine15:33
daftykinsi thought nobody around would be the reason *to* play it ;D15:47
diddledanepic teacher is epic: https://twitter.com/heydebigale/status/95692203302307430416:11
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daftykinsguaranteed every student just thought she'd stayed out all night16:19
ana_hi. ubuntu just did the normal update, when restarting, wi-fi just won't connect21:09
ana_keeps asking for password then asks again21:10
daftykinsforget the network entirely, try that21:21
daftykinsana_: did you try that?21:35
daftykinsor are you getting support elsewhere...21:35
ana_try what?22:09
ana_daftykins, i am not getting support elsewhere22:09
ana_i googled it, no solution22:09
daftykins21:21 < daftykins> forget the network entirely, try that22:09
ana_what is "that"22:10
daftykinsthe first part of the sentence22:10
daftykinsFORGET THE NETWORK22:10
ana_yes i'm using ethernet now, i.e. cable not wifi. other wise i woun't be talking ...22:11
ana_here ...22:11
diddledanmethinks there's a lingo barrier22:11
ana_yes. me not know lingo. plain english needed please :)22:12
daftykinssaving a wireless network is how it's usually used, so delete the profile for it, so it doesn't remember it22:12
daftykinsit was totally clear to me, i have no idea how any English speaker can fail to understand that22:12
ana_tried that, didn't work22:13
ana_(i think)22:13
daftykinsconfirm.22:13
ana_deleted the network from the list of networks, re-found it, re-entered password. problem not solved22:14
daftykinscan you run: dmesg | nc termbin.com 999922:15
ana_http://termbin.com/w9rs22:15
daftykinsoh dear22:17
daftykinsdiddledan: i did it again22:17
diddledandamn you did. that's a nasty disk right there22:18
daftykinsana_: umm, aside from the wifi issue - your hard disk is faulty and if you have any important data on it, you are living on borrowed time22:18
daftykinslikely the upgrade has caused breakage by writing to bad areas22:19
ana_ok. so i should change the hard drive?22:20
ana_thank you daftykins22:20
daftykinsyep22:20
daftykinsno problem22:20
ana_ok thank you22:20
ana_so that's the next step then ... thanks22:20
ana_can i ask further .. why would my hard drive be damaged?22:21
daftykinsage22:21
daftykinslooks like a 320GB museum piece22:21
ana_hmm22:21
ana_oh22:21
diddledanUDMA/133 - IDE22:21
ana_hehe22:21
daftykinsana_: if you wouldn't mind one more command: sudo apt install smartmontools && sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda | nc termbin.com 999922:21
daftykins(select 'no configuration' when/if a screen asks22:21
daftykins)22:21
ana_can i ask what that will do22:21
daftykinsshare the diagnostics information of your disk with us, nothing personally identifiable22:22
daftykinsjust confirms how far gone it is22:22
diddledanit will install smartmontools then it will ran smartctl then it will post to termbin.com22:22
daftykins^22:22
diddledanreading goes from left to right22:22
ana_$ sudo apt install smartmontool22:22
ana_[sudo] password for ana:22:22
ana_Reading package lists... Done22:22
ana_Building dependency tree22:22
ana_Reading state information... Done22:22
ana_E: Unable to locate package smartmontool22:22
daftykinsit's smartmontools22:23
ana_$ sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda | nc termbin.com 999922:23
ana_sudo: smartctl: command not found22:23
ana_ah22:23
ana_shoiuld i answer everything yes?22:23
daftykinsyep22:23
ana_ok22:24
ana_oh dear22:24
ana_can i post here?22:24
daftykinsyep22:24
ana_Package configuration22:24
ana_               ┌───────────────────────────┤ Postfix Configuration ├───────────────────────────┐22:24
ana_               │ Please select the mail server configuration type that best meets your needs.  │22:24
ana_               │                                                                               │22:24
ana_               │  No configuration:                                                            │22:24
ana_               │   Should be chosen to leave the current configuration unchanged.              │22:24
ana_               │  Internet site:                                                               │22:24
ana_               │   Mail is sent and received directly using SMTP.                              │22:24
ana_               │  Internet with smarthost:                                                     │22:24
ana_               │   Mail is received directly using SMTP or by running a utility such           │22:24
diddledanee gads22:24
daftykinsoh i thought you meant the URL22:24
ana_               │   as fetchmail. Outgoing mail is sent using a smarthost.                      │22:24
daftykinsselect 'no configuration' there22:24
ana_               │  Satellite system:                                                            │22:24
ana_               │   All mail is sent to another machine, called a 'smarthost', for delivery.    │22:24
ana_               │  Local only:                                                                  │22:24
ana_               │   The only delivered mail is the mail for local users. There is no network.   │22:24
ana_               │                                                                               │22:24
ana_               │ General type of mail configuration:                                           │22:24
ana_               │                                                                               │22:24
ana_               │                           No configuration           ↑                        │22:24
ana_               │                           Internet Site              ▮22:24
ana_sorry :)22:25
ana_(Reading database ... 95%22:25
ana_what i am installing?22:25
ana_(please don't answer 'a program')22:25
diddledana _specific_ program22:25
diddledan:-p22:26
ana_:)22:26
diddledanyou're installing smartmontools, as I pointed out above22:26
ana_~$ sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda | nc termbin.com 999922:26
ana_http://termbin.com/5pp622:26
diddledanshe's dead jim22:27
daftykinsyeah 2,900 bad sectors, DANGER UBUNTU ROBINSON!22:27
ana_ok. so, basically, do a back up of hard drive, change hard drive22:28
diddledanyeah, at this point with that disk anything you write to it is suspect22:28
daftykinsyep, do you have an external hard disk to backup to?22:29
ana_yes i do regular backups22:29
ana_as in, yearly or so... hehe22:29
daftykinsxD22:29
daftykinsi like the honesty22:29
ana_i knew i had to change the hard drive, but it does mean to halt all other work for a day or two22:30
ana_so i was postponing22:30
diddledanI like that message near the top of the smart output: "Drive failure expected in less than 24 hours. SAVE ALL DATA."22:30
daftykinsthat's a fairly old machine, you might want to consider picking up a solid state drive (SSD) instead of HDD for the replacement, it'll be a huge speed increase22:30
ana_well all important stuff is sent to other people, so, i was surviving22:30
ana_most my files ultimately live in several people's servers or computers22:30
daftykinsyeah the longer it's even turned on, the less likely you'll be able to get your data off safely22:30
daftykinsah that's handy then22:31
ana_hand on. solid state drive22:31
ana_instead of hdd? what does it mean?22:31
diddledanHDD is a spinning lump of metal. SSD is microchips22:32
ana_wonder if it would fit  on this laptop22:32
daftykinsdefinitely, already seen the specs22:32
daftykinsthough i'd take it to a reliable source for assistance in choosing such an upgrade22:33
ana_in any case ... i have this internal hard drive to replace in  a draw, waiting for replacent ... but will make a note, for next time22:33
ana_wow, thanks again22:33
daftykinsah22:33
diddledandrawer hard disks are awesome22:33
ana_this channels helpfulness will never cease to amaze me22:33
ana_haha :)22:33
ana_thank you!22:33
diddledan"I need a new disk".. "oh there's one in that drawer!"22:34
ana_need to call it a night now22:34
ana_:D22:34
diddledanme too22:35
ana_thank you thank you! good night :)22:35
diddledansleep now22:35
daftykinsg'night to you both \o22:35
diddledannn22:35

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