| brobostigon | morning boys and girls. | 08:34 |
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| BobMottram[m] | G'day | 08:40 |
| SuperMatt | friday friday friday | 15:01 |
| Azelphur | gotta get down on friday? | 15:27 |
| SuperMatt | OH GOD | 15:27 |
| SuperMatt | You had to remind us, didn't you? | 15:27 |
| Azelphur | hehe | 15:28 |
| daftykins | we have it as a trigger in another channel (: | 15:28 |
| daftykins | bit like a rick-rolling but without a good tune | 15:28 |
| SuperMatt | If it wasn't for the fact that no one is around much in the office on a friday, I'd have it blast out of the speakers of my work machine | 15:33 |
| daftykins | i thought nobody around would be the reason *to* play it ;D | 15:47 |
| diddledan | epic teacher is epic: https://twitter.com/heydebigale/status/956922033023074304 | 16:11 |
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| daftykins | guaranteed every student just thought she'd stayed out all night | 16:19 |
| ana_ | hi. ubuntu just did the normal update, when restarting, wi-fi just won't connect | 21:09 |
| ana_ | keeps asking for password then asks again | 21:10 |
| daftykins | forget the network entirely, try that | 21:21 |
| daftykins | ana_: did you try that? | 21:35 |
| daftykins | or are you getting support elsewhere... | 21:35 |
| ana_ | try what? | 22:09 |
| ana_ | daftykins, i am not getting support elsewhere | 22:09 |
| ana_ | i googled it, no solution | 22:09 |
| daftykins | 21:21 < daftykins> forget the network entirely, try that | 22:09 |
| ana_ | what is "that" | 22:10 |
| daftykins | the first part of the sentence | 22:10 |
| daftykins | FORGET THE NETWORK | 22:10 |
| ana_ | yes i'm using ethernet now, i.e. cable not wifi. other wise i woun't be talking ... | 22:11 |
| ana_ | here ... | 22:11 |
| diddledan | methinks there's a lingo barrier | 22:11 |
| ana_ | yes. me not know lingo. plain english needed please :) | 22:12 |
| daftykins | saving a wireless network is how it's usually used, so delete the profile for it, so it doesn't remember it | 22:12 |
| daftykins | it was totally clear to me, i have no idea how any English speaker can fail to understand that | 22:12 |
| ana_ | tried that, didn't work | 22:13 |
| ana_ | (i think) | 22:13 |
| daftykins | confirm. | 22:13 |
| ana_ | deleted the network from the list of networks, re-found it, re-entered password. problem not solved | 22:14 |
| daftykins | can you run: dmesg | nc termbin.com 9999 | 22:15 |
| ana_ | http://termbin.com/w9rs | 22:15 |
| daftykins | oh dear | 22:17 |
| daftykins | diddledan: i did it again | 22:17 |
| diddledan | damn you did. that's a nasty disk right there | 22:18 |
| daftykins | ana_: umm, aside from the wifi issue - your hard disk is faulty and if you have any important data on it, you are living on borrowed time | 22:18 |
| daftykins | likely the upgrade has caused breakage by writing to bad areas | 22:19 |
| ana_ | ok. so i should change the hard drive? | 22:20 |
| ana_ | thank you daftykins | 22:20 |
| daftykins | yep | 22:20 |
| daftykins | no problem | 22:20 |
| ana_ | ok thank you | 22:20 |
| ana_ | so that's the next step then ... thanks | 22:20 |
| ana_ | can i ask further .. why would my hard drive be damaged? | 22:21 |
| daftykins | age | 22:21 |
| daftykins | looks like a 320GB museum piece | 22:21 |
| ana_ | hmm | 22:21 |
| ana_ | oh | 22:21 |
| diddledan | UDMA/133 - IDE | 22:21 |
| ana_ | hehe | 22:21 |
| daftykins | ana_: if you wouldn't mind one more command: sudo apt install smartmontools && sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda | nc termbin.com 9999 | 22:21 |
| daftykins | (select 'no configuration' when/if a screen asks | 22:21 |
| daftykins | ) | 22:21 |
| ana_ | can i ask what that will do | 22:21 |
| daftykins | share the diagnostics information of your disk with us, nothing personally identifiable | 22:22 |
| daftykins | just confirms how far gone it is | 22:22 |
| diddledan | it will install smartmontools then it will ran smartctl then it will post to termbin.com | 22:22 |
| daftykins | ^ | 22:22 |
| diddledan | reading goes from left to right | 22:22 |
| ana_ | $ sudo apt install smartmontool | 22:22 |
| ana_ | [sudo] password for ana: | 22:22 |
| ana_ | Reading package lists... Done | 22:22 |
| ana_ | Building dependency tree | 22:22 |
| ana_ | Reading state information... Done | 22:22 |
| ana_ | E: Unable to locate package smartmontool | 22:22 |
| daftykins | it's smartmontools | 22:23 |
| ana_ | $ sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda | nc termbin.com 9999 | 22:23 |
| ana_ | sudo: smartctl: command not found | 22:23 |
| ana_ | ah | 22:23 |
| ana_ | shoiuld i answer everything yes? | 22:23 |
| daftykins | yep | 22:23 |
| ana_ | ok | 22:24 |
| ana_ | oh dear | 22:24 |
| ana_ | can i post here? | 22:24 |
| daftykins | yep | 22:24 |
| ana_ | Package configuration | 22:24 |
| ana_ | ┌───────────────────────────┤ Postfix Configuration ├───────────────────────────┐ | 22:24 |
| ana_ | │ Please select the mail server configuration type that best meets your needs. │ | 22:24 |
| ana_ | │ │ | 22:24 |
| ana_ | │ No configuration: │ | 22:24 |
| ana_ | │ Should be chosen to leave the current configuration unchanged. │ | 22:24 |
| ana_ | │ Internet site: │ | 22:24 |
| ana_ | │ Mail is sent and received directly using SMTP. │ | 22:24 |
| ana_ | │ Internet with smarthost: │ | 22:24 |
| ana_ | │ Mail is received directly using SMTP or by running a utility such │ | 22:24 |
| diddledan | ee gads | 22:24 |
| daftykins | oh i thought you meant the URL | 22:24 |
| ana_ | │ as fetchmail. Outgoing mail is sent using a smarthost. │ | 22:24 |
| daftykins | select 'no configuration' there | 22:24 |
| ana_ | │ Satellite system: │ | 22:24 |
| ana_ | │ All mail is sent to another machine, called a 'smarthost', for delivery. │ | 22:24 |
| ana_ | │ Local only: │ | 22:24 |
| ana_ | │ The only delivered mail is the mail for local users. There is no network. │ | 22:24 |
| ana_ | │ │ | 22:24 |
| ana_ | │ General type of mail configuration: │ | 22:24 |
| ana_ | │ │ | 22:24 |
| ana_ | │ No configuration ↑ │ | 22:24 |
| ana_ | │ Internet Site ▮ | 22:24 |
| ana_ | sorry :) | 22:25 |
| ana_ | (Reading database ... 95% | 22:25 |
| ana_ | what i am installing? | 22:25 |
| ana_ | (please don't answer 'a program') | 22:25 |
| diddledan | a _specific_ program | 22:25 |
| diddledan | :-p | 22:26 |
| ana_ | :) | 22:26 |
| diddledan | you're installing smartmontools, as I pointed out above | 22:26 |
| ana_ | ~$ sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda | nc termbin.com 9999 | 22:26 |
| ana_ | http://termbin.com/5pp6 | 22:26 |
| diddledan | she's dead jim | 22:27 |
| daftykins | yeah 2,900 bad sectors, DANGER UBUNTU ROBINSON! | 22:27 |
| ana_ | ok. so, basically, do a back up of hard drive, change hard drive | 22:28 |
| diddledan | yeah, at this point with that disk anything you write to it is suspect | 22:28 |
| daftykins | yep, do you have an external hard disk to backup to? | 22:29 |
| ana_ | yes i do regular backups | 22:29 |
| ana_ | as in, yearly or so... hehe | 22:29 |
| daftykins | xD | 22:29 |
| daftykins | i like the honesty | 22:29 |
| ana_ | i knew i had to change the hard drive, but it does mean to halt all other work for a day or two | 22:30 |
| ana_ | so i was postponing | 22:30 |
| diddledan | I like that message near the top of the smart output: "Drive failure expected in less than 24 hours. SAVE ALL DATA." | 22:30 |
| daftykins | that's a fairly old machine, you might want to consider picking up a solid state drive (SSD) instead of HDD for the replacement, it'll be a huge speed increase | 22:30 |
| ana_ | well all important stuff is sent to other people, so, i was surviving | 22:30 |
| ana_ | most my files ultimately live in several people's servers or computers | 22:30 |
| daftykins | yeah the longer it's even turned on, the less likely you'll be able to get your data off safely | 22:30 |
| daftykins | ah that's handy then | 22:31 |
| ana_ | hand on. solid state drive | 22:31 |
| ana_ | instead of hdd? what does it mean? | 22:31 |
| diddledan | HDD is a spinning lump of metal. SSD is microchips | 22:32 |
| ana_ | wonder if it would fit on this laptop | 22:32 |
| daftykins | definitely, already seen the specs | 22:32 |
| daftykins | though i'd take it to a reliable source for assistance in choosing such an upgrade | 22:33 |
| ana_ | in any case ... i have this internal hard drive to replace in a draw, waiting for replacent ... but will make a note, for next time | 22:33 |
| ana_ | wow, thanks again | 22:33 |
| daftykins | ah | 22:33 |
| diddledan | drawer hard disks are awesome | 22:33 |
| ana_ | this channels helpfulness will never cease to amaze me | 22:33 |
| ana_ | haha :) | 22:33 |
| ana_ | thank you! | 22:33 |
| diddledan | "I need a new disk".. "oh there's one in that drawer!" | 22:34 |
| ana_ | need to call it a night now | 22:34 |
| ana_ | :D | 22:34 |
| diddledan | me too | 22:35 |
| ana_ | thank you thank you! good night :) | 22:35 |
| diddledan | sleep now | 22:35 |
| daftykins | g'night to you both \o | 22:35 |
| diddledan | nn | 22:35 |
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