[00:01] oh yes, alaikum salam, Mohamed from Sudan , its better you are a UT developer than a Pirat :) [01:09] So whats the best ubuntu phone [01:10] @Sumeet Kumar, The one you can get 😂 [01:10] 😞 [01:11] sorry.. I have the N5 and it is pretty great. [01:11] Can hook it up to screen and have full convergence [01:11] Nexus 5 [01:11] with kb/mouse [01:11] Okay [01:11] Yep [01:13] Two version.. the D820 is US and the D821 is international. [01:13] You can usually buy those at best buy like prepaid phones yeah?? [01:14] eehhh... not anymore... and I don't think they ever carried them. [01:14] could only buy at google.com [01:14] You can find used ones lots of places depending on country. [01:51] I have create an Arabic group this is the … @UPorts_Arabic [01:52] @sudanisayfree, \o/ Have you joined UBLangs group? [01:52] You are the Arabic captain? [01:53] @Crash_Burn, No [01:53] @sudanisayfree, Ok, let me PM you some further instructions [06:18] In the news page, the link for Arabic telegram group doesn't work. [06:18] Just giving a heads up [06:25] @mvaisakh, http://t.me/UBports_Arabic [06:29] Yeah it's working now [06:49] I guys! Yunit project has done some unity8 interface translations ( 149 languages in total, catalan, french and italian are "ready for use", portughese is almost ready). Do you think they could be usefull for ubports unity8? Who should I ask? [06:54] @Aury88, Good point [06:56] @Aury88, probably here: https://github.com/ubports/unity8/issues [07:24] @peternerlich, Ok. I'll ask there👍 [09:29] Ok i guess ill have to order one [09:32] wahyujlt was added by: wahyujlt [09:33] Someone has already tried on Xiaomi redmi 2 phones? [10:01] @Sumeet Kumar, Could also consider OnePlusOne or Moto G 'Titan' [10:02] @wahyujlt, Likely to be very difficult I think. It needs a Halium port. I don't remember any Xiaomi on the list [10:04] Here is the list. Some are finished. Others have had only a little work so far. Nothing for Xiaomi http://docs.halium.org/en/latest/supplementary/devices/ [10:06] @wahyujlt, Welcome Waugh! Ask questions, join in. Glad to have you in our community. https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome for lots of newcomer information 🚪 [10:06] http://t.me/UBports_IND [10:07] @wahyujlt, No but i'm trying with Xiaomi mi3 [10:07] This is the link for our Indonesian language link Wahyu [10:08] @Mattia990, You should list it in the Halium wiki so that people know 😁 [10:10] Hi guys, after a few days break I'm trying to flash my MX4 again after having emptied the cache in recovery. I use sudo ubuntu-device-flash etc but it states: [10:12] error pushing: Failed to copy '/home/seumas/.cache/ubuntuimages/pool/keyring-longchainofalphunumericsIcantbebotheredtotype.tar.X's' to '/cache/recovery/': Is a directory [10:13] *.xz I mean [10:13] Any tips? [10:55] @Stereofont, Hello I'm speak Arabic [10:55] @sudanisayfree, وعليكم السلام محمد [10:55] @SigmaOne, http://t.me/UBports_Arabic [10:56] @Stereofont, Okay [10:56] Please join [10:56] Okay [10:56] 👌 [11:06] Isn't it should be UBports | An Ubuntu Touch Community? … or do I pronounce Ubuntu wrong or my English grammar is wrong? 😄 [11:17] @Javacookies, It should be if you pronounce it oo-boon-too or oo-bun-too. I don't know what it is officially, or if there even is an official way of saying it [11:31] All long u [11:33] https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu [11:33] Pronounciation above. :) [11:35] Ubuntu can be pronounced however you choose, that's one of the freedoms it provides. I go with you-bun-tu. [11:36] @Stereofont @dohbee Is my problem more so on the host PC side? Or the phone? Search engines bring up nothing about this push error. [11:39] I would have to answer that in about 30 hrs or so, at best [11:39] If you're busy, I understand. [11:40] I am nowhere near relevant data [11:48] Hmm I might have a fix, may be because I did a cache wipe: [11:48] https://forums.ubports.com/topic/111/ubports-recovery-status/3 [12:20] Is there a way to flag for a push progress percentage with ubuntu-device-flash? [12:35] https://github.com/ubports/kernel_bq_m10/commit/18ce36c8950f73df6c874f65d6862905a69e4286 - does anyone know the origin of that driver? [12:35] I'm trying to get Bluetooth working on a newer MTK SoC with 3.18 kernel [12:43] @TartanSpartan, @wayneoutthere xD [12:46] Amirite though? :) [12:56] Wayne says it ooboontoo ;) [13:07] matcher84 was added by: matcher84 [13:10] Fwd from Tewel: Ah, of course, thank you for your quick answering and help! I will try this... [13:16] Hi. I have a BQ Aquaris M10 and am looking for a keyboard. Any suggestions? [13:20] I like the logitech BT one with the touch pad integrated [13:24] Would that be this one? https://www.logitech.com/nl-nl/product/wireless-touch-keyboard-k400-plus [13:27] @TartanSpartan, I'm going to call you Some-Ass, ok? I choose this freedom. [13:27] where do you intend to use it? at home? at work? anywhere? there are good foldable keyboards out there :) [13:27] @Georgecloon, you can find your answer here: … https://open.uappexplorer.com/app/sayubuntu.joe [13:28] Haha, don't discriminate against the Celtic peoples ;) [13:28] just proving that names matter. We might fail the first time but let's work together and 'get it right' over time. [13:29] you can call me Wan-Yay once or twice but after a while.. i just won't remember to call you back... [13:30] @Ernst Vaarties, Yeah I have that one [13:31] I used to have cheaper ones but with lot of problems after a few weeks [13:31] Its your call, maybe I had back luck [13:31] I'm a little loath to quote Joey after how much he's snubbed us since Canonical dropped the project, but... [13:31] http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2016/04/how-to-pronounce-ubuntu-correctly [13:32] As for keyboards, I recommend this: [13:34] https://www.amazon.co.uk/DURAGADGET-Black-Leather-SPANISH-Keyboard/dp/B01CGQCE8Q/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1517060026&sr=8-1&keywords=bq+aquaris+m10+case+duragadget [13:38] The case and keyboard together allow the tablet to approximate a laptop form, you can prop it up as such, or fold it over and prop it up just as a tablet, the battery life is good, it's strong and protects well, nice and chunky to get a good grip of the device during transport, standard WIN/AND/IOS hotkeys and a function button for Home End PgDown PgUp and others, unfortunately the caps lock light doesn't seem to function so you just have to [13:38] the state of that function, also it seems to have a North American QWERTY layout so the lack of Euro or £ symbols is slightly annoying, but other than that it's great. [13:39] Anyone know how to stop the apparmor service on ubuntu touch? I've been trying to figure out a coding issue and I just wanna be sure that it is indeed the apparmor that is disabling me from reading a directory and not something else [13:40] Check syslog for apparmor denial? [13:40] And apparmor is in the kernel, not a service [13:41] What directory? [13:42] Help link dowload ubuntu touch for nexus 5 format zip please share 🙏🙏 [13:43] There is none [13:43] Ubuntu is not an Android ROM [13:44] Ahh there is a log? Where is it? I've been trying a bunch. /home, /home/phablet, /tmp... I have put them in my read_path in the apparmor profile and tried making it use the 'unconfined' template but nothing really seems to help. I can see that others have read-access to the directory when I use clickable logs and with logging from my app - it should be allowed to read that dir but something is preventing it [13:45] The unconfined profile can already read everything [13:45] @TartanSpartan, yeah.definitely *don't* quote Mr. Snaydown on how to pronounce Ubuntu. "there's no right way" is a load of crap. There is a right way. It's the way you say it in the country where the word comes from. However... I also understand that there are problems in some languages making certain sounds. For example, while living in Korea I noticed that men named Ryan were always "Lyin'" So pronunciation problems while *trying* to s [13:45] it correctly are fine and human. … However, not trying at all and saying "I'll just say your name how I want to" is arrogant and imperialistic. That's what the Europeans would do while dominating another country . … I'm in India so you are Indians! … ...uh.. no you aren't and no we aren't. … Yes! You are! And I will call you that. … Arrogance. … Ubuntu is also an interesting word. Because of the vowels an consonants, there is not a singl [13:45] that can claim 'We can't pronounce this right". It would be a lie. It's easy. It's a long 'ooooo' sound in each 'U' letter. Simple as that. Really. It's that easy. … And if you still can't say it right @exar_kun made a UT app to remove all excuses. … Have a nice day. *smiley* [13:46] It's the system log, /var/log/syslog and maybe something in the log of your app [13:46] Damnit wayne [13:46] You also need to bump your app version number each time you change your apps apparmor profiles for it to take effect. [13:47] I do a 'opendir' on the directory and Im always hit with the permission denied (13 errno). I'll have a look at the log, thanks @dohbee [13:47] @dohbee, yes, rodney? [13:47] YMMV is a guiding principle of life. [13:47] @DanChapman Did not know that, maybe that is why its not taking effect? I will defently try that too [13:47] @wayneoutthere, Break. Long. Things. Up. Please. [13:47] i didn't want to dwell on it so I put it in a big one. it would have interrupted you worse in pieces [13:48] believe it or not I was thinking about you here. [13:48] @DanChapman, Shouldn't need to, and doesn't matter if it's unconfined [13:52] @dohbee, hmmm ok. so if it wasn't unconfined originally and the version number did not change when switching it to unconfined the apparmor profile would get reapplied? As far as a i recall that was never the case for me and it always required a version bump if you changed anything in apparmor.json [13:52] Adding read_path entries to an unconfined app is superfluous [13:54] @DanChapman, When you install the click again, it should generate and install the new profile. Version numbers are pretty superfluous, only for upgrade from store really [13:54] Hmm, maybe a bug in click then? [13:56] This is my apparmor profile:https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1s2eQw7Z-wDsDuzsIN6gKS8m7mFppvt5R?usp=sharing … Thats how it should look if its unconfied right? [13:58] Bumping the version of the app did the trick [13:58] Happy to state that I've reverted my dormant, thought-bricked MX4 to stable Vivid. [13:58] Once again. [13:58] Dont know if that is a bug or just how its meant to be but just tried it and voila, it can read the directories [13:59] Dont know if I should log this somewhere so the next fellow who tries this out dose'nt run into the same issue as me? Im all for documenting and helping :) [14:00] @Jimmie Johnsson, Sounds like bugs [14:00] @dohbee, I'm not sure tbh. I would say so... but it was always been like that so no idea if it's actually by design. [14:01] I've already been in contact with Douglass couple of e-mails before, he is the main "clickable" guy I guess? I can drop him a mail and see what he says [14:01] @DanChapman @dohbee thanks a million for the help - I would not have figured this out myself. Thanks [14:01] 👍 [14:05] Is it to be expected that system-image-cli spits out verbosity which namedrops Canonical? [14:05] e.g. [14:05] [systemimage] Jan 27 13:53:42 2018 (9050) [/com/canonical/applications/download/af1067b6cb284b6093e248fc8ba430cc] Running group download reactor [14:07] Looks like it's in their namespace [14:08] That's fine IMO. system-image-cli and system-image-dbus are canonical projects. [14:08] Fair enough. [14:13] It's the dbus namespace, yes [14:28] Tnx I'm gonna use the keyboard for casual typing. [14:52] You like it? It would work for that too, yes. [15:09] kalvincj was added by: kalvincj [15:12] Finally achieved my objective of moving to Xenial on Arale :) [15:13] Who is a guru with this development image, on the team? [15:15] hi [15:26] @kalvincj, Welcome Hallan! Ask questions, join in. Glad to have you in our community. https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome for lots of newcomer information 🚪 [15:27] to port lastest version of ub touch need halium 7.1 or 5.1 ? [15:56] Marvis it depends in the device. Can be either. But that is the extent of my knowledge on the subject [15:56] Fabrizio Zanella was added by: Fabrizio Zanella [15:59] @Fabrizio Zanella, Hello Fabrizio. Welcome! Check https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome … Not-a-bot™ Ask, chat, explore! [16:00] Stereo thanks xD [16:01] i will try port to my mtk device but will take a lot of work :x [16:02] my device is limited by 512 ram size and i don't know if will run fine. [16:09] (Photo, 640x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/Z04uiIS5/file_3922.jpg [16:17] @marvis, Marvis, with MTK and 512Mb the project is as close to impossible as it can get. Seriously, don't give yourself that heartache. Find a more sensible device [16:28] @Stereofont Thanks for information, yes MTK is so much closed, the device kernel is hard to compile confuses makefiles and incomplete tree : (, i will try with other xD [16:30] there are relatively sensible MediaTek devices which have kernel source code at least, but yours is probably just not worth the effort [16:31] @marvis, No it will not, sorry to say. 1GB is bare minimum, better 2GB. Unity8 is a memory hog. [16:32] resourcehog.jpg :P [16:32] *hides* [16:33] Lol [16:34] @marvis, Enthusiasm is great but it will be crushed by unrealistic projects. We prefer to be honest. It isn't our intention to discourage [16:34] @Flohack, you think it's possible to improve that? even Qt apps are memory hog! :) [16:35] sorry to go to another topic … anyone else agree with this bug/issue? … https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues/451 [16:36] I have a possible fix and I would like someone to test it and see how it compare to previous experience...in my opinion it's a better 👍 [16:36] @Javacookies, Yes, it is fixable. If true anyway [16:37] @Javacookies, It is possible but we need a unity8 team to target this, and I dont see this coming [16:37] @Stereofont I understand thanks for notice me, i will try get a Xiaomi device to play [16:38] @Flohack, I think it's more on the general Qt implementation since even apps are affected? [16:39] @Javacookies, For project management, guessing that stable function is the top priority, with economy and efficiency being refinements that come later? [16:41] @marvis, If you can discuss with someone else who is playing around with the same device it will be much easier. Two heads better than one [16:41] Fwd from Mattia990: No but i'm trying with Xiaomi mi3 [16:41] This [16:43] @Javacookies, Apps will speed up in xenial because of Qt caching. Memory I cant say but can also be better. But no apps open UT consumes already up to 800MB. Thats not a Qt problem [16:44] @Javacookies, No, it's just decisions in implementation [16:47] (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/qPIm6FbT/file_3923 [16:47] I'll just ask again tomorrow regarding the tester I'm looking for … it got buried because I talked about two topics LOL … and I got to sleep :D [16:47] @Stereofont yeah i will find more things to change, this device is not so much popular is a alcatel 4027D [16:49] @Javacookies, Is there a pull request for it so people can test? [16:50] I'm new to this...what's a pull request? 😅 [16:50] https://help.github.com/articles/about-pull-requests/ [16:51] okay I'll read that...so it's what I need so people can test my fix right? [16:51] Basically fork the keyboard-component make changes in your fork and create a pull request to merge it back into the keyboard-component [16:52] Yes test and review the code changes [16:55] okay, thanks … I'll do it tomorrow … it's just a two-liner fix..though I tried many things before I came up with this....kinda happy and at the same time disappointed...like what?! it's just like that?! 😂 [16:55] anyways, thank you again … good night! [16:55] 👍 [16:59] The life of a programmer. [17:08] How do I create a UT app using QT? [17:17] You can use https://www.gitbook.com/book/mimecar/ubuntu-touch-programming-course/details [17:19] leumasobz was added by: leumasobz [17:51] @Javacookies, I'm on BQ E5 release channel. I tried to reproduce the issue and I noticed that on a multi-lines text sometimes, once activated the concerned bar function, the cursor moves up by one line; but sometimes doesn't, it remains still. It seems to me quite random behavior... [17:53] @leumasobz, Hello Leumas. Welcome! Check https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome … Not-a-bot™ Ask, chat, explore! [17:58] https://m.facebook.com/UBports_Arabic-265596383976294 … To reach big number of people in Arabic world , We created a page on Facebook [18:08] @sudanisayfree, محمد عبدو: … On Twitter & Google Plus using : … #UBPorts_Arabic [18:11] @Flohack, I'm not sure ram is everything. The OPO has 3GB, but the N5 seems to be a bit more responsive with 2GB [18:35] @sudanisayfree, Now , launched first hashtag : … #UBPorts_Arabic … on Facebook [19:00] Andrissk was added by: Andrissk [19:40] https://github.com/TeamButter/android_device_samsung_mint2g [19:47] I was able to install on Opo. I will continue following the italian ubports group. Thanks a lot [19:56] (Sticker, 336x512) https://irc.ubports.com/UtN8gciH/file_3924 [20:04] Guys, my MX4 on Xenial was working ok, but all of a sudden the WiFi interface has disappeared. What gives? [20:12] Never mind, this is the fix: [20:13] (Photo, 1920x1080) https://irc.ubports.com/0xDLnFFQ/file_3926.jpg [20:15] Question : … Why , UBports installer cannot see the adb device list ( any handset ) will it's connected on the pc operating system ? … I trying it on my device Samsung GT-S5282 ... … it only give me letter " wait adb to attached the device " , I wait for 1 hour nothing happened ... … Really it should give me a massage or letter like " Your device is Samsung GT-S5282 , Sorry we cannot install ubuntu touch on it now " [20:22] @sudanisayfree, The installer only has a few error responses. With future development more diagnostic responses will probably appear. Probably it will be more likely just to refer users to help on a web page or the install room here. The list of supported devices is on the UBports website [20:23] No Samsung device is supported at the moment [20:25] @Stereofont, Ok [20:26] Better less devices with 100 % funcionality instead of 100 devices with 20 % functionality and thousand constructions... :-) [20:51] Francisco Sousa was added by: Francisco Sousa [20:52] @Francisco Sousa, Hello Francisco. Welcome! Check https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome … Not-a-bot™ Ask, chat, explore! [20:53] https://t.me/joinchat/ALdCegI_knZj301cCAbSMw UBports Portuguese language group [21:16] javitoom was added by: javitoom [21:19] @javitoom, Hello Javi and welcome! I'm part of the UBports welcoming team. … To help you get started, please take a look right away at our newcomers welcome page (https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome) and thanks again for joining us! :) [21:19] hola Javi [21:19] Hello! Hola! [21:19]