[00:03] <jack2> how i can connect the sinusbots with system start? atm i need to push the start button in this webinterface
[00:14] <idwer> TJ-: you were awesome
[00:20] <TJ-> idwer: That's a regression; I'll make sure the kernel-team take a look. Keep an eye on that bug because they'll probably ask you to test some kernel builds
[00:21] <idwer> which would be installed over some ppa?
[00:21] <TJ-> idwer: please add a comment on the bug confirming 'nopti' allowed -25 to work
[00:22] <idwer> it's 1am22 where I am, maybe later :)
[00:23] <TJ-> it's same here - only needs 2 minutes :)
[00:27] <idwer> have to dig up that launchpad login then.. do I even have one?
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[00:34] <MikeSee> How do I ensure that an rsyslog forwarding-chain is severed when I update settings on one link of the chain?  more detail: https://paste.ubuntu.com/26467641/
[00:44] <Guest54464> hello
[00:49] <arooni> anyway to make alt tab work so that i get the most recent window?  it seems like it always works by giving me the same order over and over again.  i'm using compiz application switcher if that matters
[01:15] <Ubuntu-Struggler> [Difficult Installation Question] --> I'm trying to install Ubuntu 17.10.1 through a USB thumb drive. Error message is displayed after the Ubuntu logo: Busy Box v1.22.1 ... "Unable to find a medium containing a live filesystem" I'm fairly certain that the USB and Ethernet ports are pooping out, but they do work during the BIOS stage. I have a PS/2 keyboard that works. I can enter commands at the prompt (initramfs)
[01:15] <Ubuntu-Struggler> Thanks for any help!
[01:16] <Ubuntu-Struggler> I have tried to install Ubuntu mini through a CD (which seems to work) but I cannot finish the installation since I could not establish a network connection
[01:17] <ChronicChops> researching, hold on
[01:21] <ChronicChops> From what i've found, it seems that your USB ports may be the problem like you said.
[01:22] <ChronicChops> Try using a USB 2.0 port or USB 2.0 pendrive
[01:22] <ChronicChops> Or boot from a CD if you can.
[01:37] <peterr> helloooo?
[01:38] <peterr> I am trying to get a full screen window but it's never the entire screen
[01:38] <peterr> the border?/bar on the left is always there....is this called the launcher?
[01:38] <peterr> I thought there is a setting so that it would 'hide' when you click a window to be full screen?
[01:39] <Ubuntu-Struggler> F11?
[01:39] <Ubuntu-Struggler> for chrome at least
[01:43] <Ubuntu-Struggler> holy crap I found my solution.. took me three days to try a random option in my BIOS labeled "IOMMU".. apparently it controls USB support for Ubuntu
[01:44] <peterr> ubuntu sucks....it also is a memory hog
[01:44] <peterr> with gnome
[01:45] <Ubuntu-Struggler> ubuntu is amazing! I don't like unity though
[01:45] <peterr> they are not using unity any more
[01:45] <Ubuntu-Struggler> you should try i3wm... it has fullscreen stuff, but it doesn't like floating windows
[01:46] <Ubuntu-Struggler> oh?
[01:46] <Ubuntu-Struggler> i'm still using 14.04 on my computers
[01:46] <peterr> I tried F11 with Firefox.... I cannot see the title bars anymore after doing that....is that normal?
[01:46] <Ubuntu-Struggler> 14.04 was the last version to support my old AMD video card lol
[01:46] <Ubuntu-Struggler> yep
[01:47] <peterr> doesn't matter anyway...looks like that will only work for browsers
[01:47] <Ubuntu-Struggler> in Chrome, Crtl + 1, 2, 3, 4 switches tabs
[01:47] <Ubuntu-Struggler> yep
[01:47] <peterr> What about other applications?
[01:48] <peterr> video players, you want full screen?
[01:48] <Ubuntu-Struggler> i use this guy: https://i3wm.org/
[01:48] <peterr> really disliking the new gnome
[01:48] <Ubuntu-Struggler> but I don't really recommend it unless you're into it
[01:48] <peterr> so difficult to use
[01:49] <Ubuntu-Struggler> i don't think it is, but if you're used to the mouse, it can be frustrating at first
[01:49] <peterr> I don't have it on any other distro so can't compare
[01:49] <Ubuntu-Struggler> i3 will delete gnome when you install it too
[01:49] <Ubuntu-Struggler> i don't know why it does that
[01:50] <peterr> the bar on the left - how do you get a screen to overlap it or how do you hide it?
[01:50] <peterr> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/08/ubuntu-17-10-gnome-3-26
[01:50] <peterr> understand me?
[01:50] <peterr> I don't want to use any 3rd party apps I don't know about
[01:50] <peterr> is that called a launcher?
[01:50] <peterr> I don't even know what it is called
[01:51] <Ubuntu-Struggler> that's understandable, i'm not really sure how to hide the menu, but I know you can... it's in the settings menu somewhere
[01:51] <Ubuntu-Struggler> it's called a windows manager
[01:51] <peterr> but, what is that bar called?
[01:52] <Ubuntu-Struggler> does this help?
[01:52] <Ubuntu-Struggler> https://askubuntu.com/questions/205885/hiding-the-sidebar-in-ubuntu
[01:52] <Ubuntu-Struggler> it's just called a sidebar as far as I know
[01:55] <peterr> hey, that was an old post but that helped me figure out what to do :)  thanks
[01:56] <peterr> you're awesome, struggler :)
[01:56] <Ubuntu-Struggler> you're welcome!
[01:56] <peterr> yes, people call it side-bar
[01:56] <peterr> I'll call it that from now on :)
[01:57] <peterr> i wouldn't mind it if it was there and opening a window to full screen would 'hide' it but what I did - it doesn't work that way
[01:57] <peterr> but, I will leave it as is until I find out if there is a way for that situation
[01:58] <peterr> what I did is go to settings and under 'dock' there is a setting to 'auto hide the dock'
[01:58] <peterr> I guess ubuntu calls it a 'dock' now?
[01:59] <Ubuntu-Struggler> they must
[01:59] <peterr> or gnome calls it that...or both? i dunno
[01:59] <peterr> it's only there when windows don't expand 'over it' - the auto hide feature?>
[01:59] <Ubuntu-Struggler> i remember that it was really hard to customize gnome for some simple things
[01:59] <Ubuntu-Struggler> i could never switch back
[02:00] <peterr> well, I used 'gnome classic' for a while so I was not familiar with all these quirks
[02:00] <peterr> that's my excuse, I guess
[02:00] <peterr> you use that guy's app?
[02:00] <peterr> did you say you are still on 14.04?
[02:01] <Ubuntu-Struggler> yep
[02:01] <peterr> I recently upgraded from 17.04 to 17.10
[02:01] <peterr> I don't remember gnome being like this... I remember some things but I don't recall having an issue with the side bar
[02:01] <Ubuntu-Struggler> i'm installing 17.10 right now on a new computer... you have me excited to see what's coming
[02:01] <peterr> what de do you use?
[02:01] <Ubuntu-Struggler> just an install bar at the moment lol
[02:02] <peterr> I have used kde, mate and cinnamon ....just recently used 'ubuntu gnome' when someone was configuring gnome with ubuntu...when ubuntu used unity as default de
[02:02] <peterr> a what?
[02:03] <Ubuntu-Struggler> installation bar, I'm waiting on Ubuntu 17.10 to finish installing
[02:03] <peterr> i stopped using kde because of some segfault crashes and it would never sync with my phone properly
[02:03] <peterr> oh
[02:03] <peterr> well let me know if you like it - if you get it configured before i leave :)
[02:03] <peterr> although, I have run into issues lately and have come on here lol
[02:04] <Ubuntu-Struggler> i was going to switch it to i3 pretty much instantly
[02:04] <peterr> you should try the default configuration first....for just a little while ;)
[02:04] <peterr> ? :)
[02:04] <peterr> does i3 replace gnome entirely?  is it a window manager/de?  What is it?
[02:04] <Ubuntu-Struggler> hm
[02:05] <peterr> oh nm. :)
[02:05] <Ubuntu-Struggler> typically you can just swap between windows managers
[02:05] <peterr> I read on the link you showed
[02:05] <Ubuntu-Struggler> but i3 tends to remove gnome when you install it
[02:05] <peterr> now, I am not used to the side bar not being there by just moving my mouse cursor over lol
[02:06] <Ubuntu-Struggler> then throws a weird low resolution error when you reinstall gnome and try to siwtch back....
[02:06] <Ubuntu-Struggler> really, I don't recommend it lol
[02:06] <Ubuntu-Struggler> unless you love the idea
[02:06] <peterr> yeah... I think it is too different :)
[02:06] <peterr> I used to like experimenting like that but now I try to use something that is more widespread... :)
[02:07] <peterr> something that is more commonly used
[02:07] <Ubuntu-Struggler> yeah, I generally agree since those things have less bugs
[02:07] <peterr> that's why I try to stick to kde, gnome or maybe xfce ...although I liked mate and cinnamon
[02:07] <Ubuntu-Struggler> but having fixed windows is simply too good to live without
[02:07] <Ubuntu-Struggler> i hate that ubuntu tries to mimic apple OS
[02:07] <peterr> it does?
[02:07] <peterr> I thought apple's OS has the sidebar at the bottom?
[02:08] <Ubuntu-Struggler> the docking bar thing reminds me of apple
[02:08] <Ubuntu-Struggler> aw, that's the same thing
[02:08] <peterr> yeah, I guess I can see your point
[02:08] <peterr> well, some ppl used to say kde tries to mimic windows? :)
[02:09] <peterr> I don't mind it if it works how I would like
[02:09] <Ubuntu-Struggler> hm.. i don't really think I've ever used kde
[02:09] <peterr> i haven't used it in a while....the last time I tried it.... was just frustration
[02:09] <peterr> it was too bad because I thought it has some nice points
[02:10] <peterr> but, the issues were deal breakers, unfortunately
[02:10] <Ubuntu-Struggler> it sounds like a good idea to have all these options, but it feels like it just creates more bugs sometimes
[02:10] <peterr> yeah
[02:10] <peterr> sometimes, you think they should just combine forces and make something good
[02:11] <peterr> I think there are things in each that are annoying or problematic....
[02:11] <Ubuntu-Struggler> (except i3wm, it's perfect)
[02:11] <Ubuntu-Struggler> lol
[02:12] <peterr> the doc can be moved to the bottom or right, btw
[02:12] <peterr> I guess the next thing I will try to figure out....is whether I can do anything to free up memory resources
[02:13] <Ubuntu-Struggler> yeah I have 17.10 up and running now... reminds me of a Microsoft Surface...
[02:13] <peterr> I'm not happy that system monitor is showing 2.5 gigs used...and I'm not even doing much
[02:13] <Ubuntu-Struggler> it's almost revolting, I can't install i3 fast enough......
[02:13] <Zombie> I'm partial to KDE.
[02:14] <peterr> 13 tabs on FF and Hexchat running....is that why I have 2.5 gigs of RAM used?  C'mon gnome/ubuntu?!?
[02:15] <peterr> is kde good at memory efficiency?  is there anyone who is not a resource hog?
[02:15] <kk4ewt> ff definitely is especially if any of those tabs are video or flash
[02:15] <peterr> I'm not familiar with a Microsoft Surface... I know what it is but I don't know what the screen/desktop looks like
[02:16] <courrier> My Dell XPS13 (16.04.3 LTS) fails to resume from sleep only when it has just been disconnected from its dockstation. I feel this problem happens more when my monitor is connected in VGA (1 time over 2 sleeps) but less when connected to HDMI (1 time over 5 sleeps), so it might be a video driver issue
[02:16] <courrier> Here's my system journal http://paste.debian.net/1007431/ Notice the "FIRMWARE BUG" line 475 and the timepoint I suspended the laptop trying to resume after dockstation disconnection line 165. Do you find any clue in the journal? (Sorry for the big log...)
[02:16] <Ubuntu-Struggler> just tried it, so I'll add my confirmation that i3wm from a fresh Ubuntu 17.10 installation will remove your gnome windows manager
[02:17] <Ubuntu-Struggler> good luck courrier, I have no idea!
[02:19] <courrier> thanks :)
[02:22] <peterr> Ubuntu-Struggler, it's just my paltry opinion but I don't think that is good programming
[02:22] <peterr> Even if I was unhappy with gnome windows manager, I don't think a program should totally remove it....does it at least warn you that it is about to be removed?
[02:23] <Ubuntu-Struggler> sure doesn't
[02:24] <Ubuntu-Struggler> i agree with you, but I'll call it a feature since I'm a fan!
[02:24] <peterr> Ha ha
[02:25] <peterr> how long does it take to remove it?
[02:25] <peterr> maybe it is a simple process to install it back?
[02:25] <cpined_> hello, with cygwin I was able to run sshd on port 443 and connect from an external ip.  Why is that not possible with Ubuntu?
[02:27] <cpined> hello, with cygwin I was able to run sshd on port 443 and connect from an external ip.  Why is that not possible with Ubuntu?
[02:28] <peterr> do you mean ssh?
[02:30] <Ubuntu-Struggler> peterr, it's not a simple process to install it back, for a beginner at least... i3 changes things to low resolution mode that persists after logout
[02:30] <cpined> yes
[02:31] <peterr> cpined, you should probably provide the channel the messages you received so that people who know about ssh have a better idea of what went wrong?
[02:32] <peterr> Ubuntu-Struggler, hmmmmm... I guess I'll pass :)
[02:33] <cpined> laptop has ssh port 443 via cygwin, I can access from remote location using my public my public ipaddress:443...I'm not able to do that with Ubuntu.
[02:33] <peterr> I might go watch the video I was gonna watch before i didn't know how to change the appearance of the side bar...uh...the dock :)
[02:35] <peterr> what's the ubuntu message?
[02:35] <Ubuntu-Struggler> peterr, wellll, you were just complaining about gnome using too much memory~~
[02:36] <peterr> Ubuntu-Struggler, yeah :)
[02:36] <Ben64> cpined: yes you can
[02:37] <cpined> ben64: Do I need to configure sshd_conf?
[02:37] <Ben64> sshd_config, yes
[02:38] <cpined> aside from adding "Port 443", is there anything else?
[02:39] <HotCupOf_> whois CodeBug
[02:41] <JTech> can I use nvidia-settings to set up dual-monitors? It can't seem to save the X config file, and when I create a new X screen the 2nd monitor just shuts off so I'm not sure I'm actually making it better... but my game under Wine won't work on the 2nd monitor.
[02:42] <Ubuntu-Struggler> JTech, does arandr work?
[02:43] <JTech> Ubuntu-Struggler, not installed. lemme look into that.
[02:44] <JTech> Ubuntu-Struggler, it's for... shell scripts?
[02:45] <JTech> oh I see. xrandr is about video stuff
[02:46] <Ubuntu-Struggler> JTech, it's just a neat tool to orient video displays.. it's generally more reliable than others
[02:46] <Ubuntu-Struggler> you can enable/disable your monitors with it
[02:46] <Ubuntu-Struggler> set resolutions
[02:46] <Ubuntu-Struggler> set primary
[02:46] <JTech> .... doesn't seem to have a lot of options. what am I supposed to do with this?
[02:47] <Ubuntu-Struggler> it doesn't have a lot of options lol
[02:47] <JTech> I mean my 2nd monitor is already enabled. how is it supposed to help my game function on the 2nd monitor?
[02:49] <JTech> I thought with nvidia-settings maybe I could do something to make the monitors separate... because my game refused to go on the 2nd non-primary monitor.
[02:49] <JTech> but "new X screen" just turns the 2nd one off. plus I can't save settings.
[02:50] <Ubuntu-Struggler> JTech, hm I've struggled with that before, I don't think I found a solution... I just switched my physical monitors lol
[02:50] <JTech> I noticed that the 2nd monitor was sort of just off-set from the 1st monitor so I thought maybe the game couldn't see the 2nd monitor. and that maybe creating a new X screen would make them distinct monitors to Wine.
[02:51] <JTech> Ubuntu-Struggler, it was working before and then spontaneously broke.
[02:53] <JTech> I wonder if it's because I switched from launching Wow.exe to WoW-64.exe... I wonder why that would break it...
[02:53] <JTech> hm. let me try launching Wow.exe the 32bit version.
[02:54] <JTech> nope.
[02:54] <JTech> god this is bullshit.
[02:56] <JTech> maybe.... if I unplug my 1st monitor... and plug it back in.... I wonder if it'll reposition the 1st as being offset from the 2nd instead of the other way around.
[02:56] <JTech> why the hell are dual monitors in the same virtual space anyway?
[02:56] <Ubuntu-Struggler> arandr can fix that part
[02:56] <JTech> how?
[02:56] <Ubuntu-Struggler> drag the little boxes how you want them
[02:56] <Ubuntu-Struggler> then hit apply
[02:57] <JTech> but that won't make them distinct.
[02:57] <Ubuntu-Struggler> oh
[02:57] <Ubuntu-Struggler> no that wont fix that
[02:57] <Ubuntu-Struggler> "mirror display" option
[02:57] <Ubuntu-Struggler> ?
[02:58] <JTech> I mean I guess I want them in the same space so I can move my mouse from one to the other but... I dunno.
[02:58] <JTech> trying to find solutions online, I see disturbing stuff about writing new /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/nvidia.conf files and making the system unable to start up.
[03:01] <JTech> for some reason he creates 52-nvidia.conf in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/
[03:01] <JTech> and I don't know why the 52.
[03:01] <JTech> and I really don't want to be screwing around with stuff that requires a rescue boot to fix.
[03:02] <rud0lf> can i set timezone per user from command-line?
[03:02] <rud0lf> for ssh access
[03:02] <rud0lf> or is it XY problem?
[03:07] <ColdKeyboard> Can anyone suggest how to fix Skype on Ubuntu 16.04? I tried installing 8.11.0.4 (sudo apt-get install skypeforlinux=8.11.0.4) but that doesn't help. When I start Skype window opens but main window is transparent, or has screenshot of what's currently on display. Any idea how to fix this?
[03:08] <JTech> .... ok. I "solved" my Wine game's monitor problem by placing the monitor I want to use on the left-most side. it's... still a fucking mess though, because my Xubuntu menu is hidden underneath the game and my monitors are reversed.
[03:09] <JTech> so both Wine and Xubuntu's menus refuse to be anywhere by the left-most monitor.
[03:09] <JTech> why
[03:09] <JTech> *anywhere but
[03:09] <Ben64> use a virtual desktop in wine
[03:10] <JTech> Ben64 I don't think that works. doesn't that create a bordered window?
[03:10] <lamduh> Is there anything important to know before switching desktop environments or does it pretty much just work
[03:10] <JTech> oh right! plus the virtual desktop ALSO refuses to go on the 2nd monitor!
[03:11] <Ubuntu-Struggler> Is extracting an ubuntu iso to a usb thumb drive the same as using usb-creator-gtk?
[03:12] <Ben64> JTech: then fix your monitor setup
[03:12] <Ben64> Ubuntu-Struggler: no
[03:12] <JTech> ben64 yup. virtual desktop is on the left-most monitor. can't move it. how was this supposed to fix it?
[03:12] <Ben64> you can move it
[03:13] <JTech> Ben64 how?
[03:13] <Ben64> click+drag
[03:13] <JTech> nope. alt-rightclick dragging doesn't do anything
[03:13] <Ben64> did i say alt-right click drag
[03:13] <JTech> click dragging doesn't either.
[03:14] <JTech> nor alt-leftclick dragging
[03:14] <Ben64> then you don't have it set up properly, it should be a window you can move like any other window
[03:15] <JTech> hmmm... doesn't work when I try to do it with the desktop from winecfg either.
[03:16] <JTech> Ben64 I can put my game on the 2nd monitor windowed already. but I can't put it there in "fullscreen (windowed)" mode. all my options have problems.
[03:17] <JTech> a virtual desktop with a window border would be the same as having it there in windowed mode as far as how many pixels I get. I'm also not sure if it would perform better FPS-wise in a virtual desktop. would it perform like windowed mode, or windowed (fullscreen)?
[03:21] <JTech> hmmm.... is there a keyboard shortcut for the Ubuntu menu? if I switch monitors I need a way to access it underneath the game.
[03:21] <JTech> why are all my options garbage?
[03:24] <Ben64> it would perform like fullscreen
[03:29] <xqb> where is mousepad's config file, where the font information, number of spaces, and such is stored, located? is it ~/.config/Mousepad/accels.scm? also the same question for xterm-256color
[03:29] <xqb> (XUbuntu 17.10)
[03:30] <JTech> "Dual (or multiple) monitors can be referred to through a modified DISPLAY environment variable."
[03:30] <JTech> hmm... is that like the env WINEPREFIX ?
[03:30] <JTech> yeah... I think so.
[03:33] <JTech> ahhhhhhh crap. where are my menu items hidden? someone told me but I didn't write it down! I have a broken one and it wont show up in the menu editor if it's broken!
[03:34] <JTech> whew. I recognized it. .local/share/applications
[03:36] <JTech> WHAT?? WHAT AM I DOING WRONG???
[03:36] <JTech> why does that menu item not show up in the menu editor??
[03:37] <JTech> is "wow64.sh" some sort of illegal filename to refer to in an appplicaiton launcher?? can I not have digits? WHAT?!?!
[03:37] <JTech> did I somehow fail to make it executable? no. it's executable.
[03:37] <JTech> there's no capital letters in the filename.
[03:38] <JTech> permission denied.
[03:38] <JTech> well something's wrong.
[03:39] <JTech> do I not use sudo chmod u+x filename.sh ?
[03:40] <JTech> in the GUI file browser it has different properties than my other .sh file... user is root instead of my username. and all the options are greyed out.
[03:40] <ColdKeyboard> Can anyone suggest how to fix Skype on Ubuntu 16.04? I tried installing 8.11.0.4 (sudo apt-get install skypeforlinux=8.11.0.4) but that doesn't help. When I start Skype window opens but main window is transparent, or has screenshot of what's currently on display. Any idea how to fix this?
[03:43] <JTech> how do I create a shell file? if I do a sudo command it makes the file owner root. and... that might be a problem? I don't know.
[03:43] <JTech> maybe I need to create it in a normal folder I don't need root access to create.
[03:43] <JTech> why??
[03:45] <JTech> YUP. THAT WAS THE WHOLE PROBLEM.
[03:45] <JTech> the reason it wasn't executable AND the reason it didn't show up in the menu editor was because my .sh file wasn't created in another folder by a regular user AND THEN MOVED.
[03:57] <hotbobby> can someone tell me why the date() function of my bash script doesnt work? https://pastebin.com/raw/YN4jhLfW
[03:57] <hotbobby> oh i didnt realize im in the ubuntu channel not the linux channel, i hope this is still on topic
[04:00] <g5385> Sup everyone??
[04:04] <g5385> What are we discussing tonight?
[04:06] <krytarik> Ubuntu, obviously.
[04:09] <Jordan_U> hotbobby: If you're running the script in Ubuntu it is. What does your date function output? What do you expect it to output instead?
[04:11] <mopdprobe> https://github.com/kraai/torbrowser-launcher/commit/1425d79f888e8572a5eede6131b8ae52a813aaf0
[04:11] <mopdprobe> How do I install a patched version of a package?
[04:11] <mopdprobe> Can't I drop the patch to some dir?
[04:12] <Jordan_U> hotbobby: Actually, I do know what's wrong. You've created a function named "date", and that function will be run instead of the "date" command. Since the date function then calls date, you have infinite recursion.
[04:15] <neophyte> .
[04:17] <JTech> why can I only move Wine's virtual desktop when it's smaller than the screen it's on? also it still won't put the desktop on the 2nd monitor even if I move it there and close and reopen it.
[04:19] <Jordan_U> JTech: Have you tried dragging the window by holding alt then grabbing anywhere on / in the window?
[04:19] <JTech> Jordan_U, yeah.
[04:22] <Jordan_U> hotbobby: (So change the name of your date function)
[04:26]  * skraito hi all . happy sabbath day :) .
[04:26] <JTech> FYI, Wine on multi-monitors, solution: set the monitor you want to use as "primary". That's all. I can't believe the solution was this simple.
[04:27] <JTech> in the past I was confused by setting the primary monitor and not having the Ubuntu menu display on it. I guess it has nothing to do with that.
[04:49] <hotbobby> Jordan_U: yes! that was it, thank you very much
[04:49] <hotbobby> i am indeed using ubuntu 16.04 to run this script
[05:03] <Guest87753> lol
[05:03] <Guest87753> hi
[05:04] <smacktalk> hi
[05:30] <BigBallsBigDick> I think they call be the South African beast too!
[05:41] <gambl0re> does ubuntu come with postgresql?
[05:41] <nacc> gambl0re: it's available yes
[05:42] <gambl0re> when i do command postgres -V i get zsh: command not found: postgres
[05:42] <nacc> gambl0re: well, you have to install it
[05:42] <Zombie> who here maintains libuser on Ubuntu? I'm extremely upset at the lack of support for libuser-ldap.
[05:43] <nacc> Zombie: this is the support channel
[05:43] <nacc> Zombie: maintainers are not generally here
[05:43] <Zombie> Its creating problems with Samba 4 on Ubuntu 16.0.4.
[05:43] <nacc> Zombie: libuser is in universe so it's comunity maintained
[05:43] <gambl0re> https://www.postgresql.org/download/linux/ubuntu/
[05:43] <Zombie> Okay, can I re-word my issue a bit more constructive?
[05:43] <nacc> gambl0re: that would not be the ubuntu packages
[05:43] <nacc> Zombie: you always can
[05:43] <gambl0re> im running the command apt-get install postgresql-9.6
[05:44] <gambl0re> nacc?
[05:44] <nacc> gambl0re: that website is for adding the postgresql repository from pg
[05:44] <nacc> gambl0re: we don't support that here
[05:44] <nacc> gambl0re: postgresql-9.6 is only in artful
[05:44] <nacc> gambl0re: 9.5 is in xenial
[05:45] <nacc> gambl0re: oh i see, they make some mention of what is in ubuntu
[05:45] <nacc> but they don't tell you what version of ubuntu
[05:46] <nacc> that generally means a poorly written guide
[05:46] <gambl0re> ?
[05:48] <nacc> gambl0re: what is your question?
[05:48] <nacc> gambl0re: it doesn't make sense to install package X (esp. where package X haas  version number in it) without saying what version of ubuntu their instructions apply to
[05:49] <gambl0re> all i want to know is how to install postgres
[05:50] <nacc> gambl0re: what version of ubuntu are you on?
[05:50] <Zombie> I am building a VM Server that is a Samba 4 AD Domain,
[05:50] <gambl0re> nevermind. i think i got it.
[05:50] <nacc> gambl0re: there are two ways, if you are on 16.04
[05:50] <nacc> gambl0re: sudo apt-get install postgresql-9.5
[05:51] <nacc> gambl0re: sudo apt-get install postgresql-server^
[05:51] <Zombie> Its uses Dove Cot for IMAP, PostFix, eGroupware, and OwnCloud.
[05:51] <Zombie> These Applications are OpenLDAP in design.
[05:52] <Zombie> I need support utilities for libuser to create posixAccount attributes.
[05:52] <Zombie> That a bit more descriptive?
[06:02] <moussa> hehehe
[06:51] <chenbin>  emacs24.5 ubuntu16.04 , M-x package-list-packages can't install
[06:51] <chenbin>           pdf-tools?
[06:51] <chenbin>  
[06:54] <senaps> i have had ubuntu 17.10 on my laptop, it was broken, i changed the harddisk and the upgraded the ram from 2 GB to 8GB. now, it hangs while in installing splash screen! what can i do? can it be disk?
[06:55] <chenbin> i meeted with splash screen sevaral times after installed ubun16.04
[06:55] <chenbin> try to re-install it
[06:56] <chenbin> perhaps my laptop is too old
[06:57] <senaps> now, im trying to install, i select the list( install or try), and they get me into a ubuntu splash to load, but it hangs out.
[06:58] <senaps> im re building the usb bootable to see if that fixes the problem.
[07:03] <chenbin> don't expect to disk from a broken install
[07:04] <chenbin> my sugest
[07:05] <chenbin> even if it can
[07:59] <maret> Hi, I am trying to setup firewall for ubuntu server edition. First I run netstat -ntlp | grep LISTEN to get what apps are running now and out put is https://pastebin.com/JbE3aRXn. My next question would which of these ports should I allow for ufw? all or only those which are external? Some of them are used externally but some like mysql is only used itnernally for webapp
[08:02] <za1b1tsu> Hello, I'm trying to use the terminal as often as I can to actually learn linux (I have ubuntu installed). I connected my android phone using usb and it shows up in the file manager.
[08:03] <za1b1tsu> The problem is I want to use the terminal. I doesn't show up in lsblk, but it shows up on dmesg
[08:04] <za1b1tsu> I don't how how to access its 'partition' since I can't find it's partition name
[08:06] <za1b1tsu> https://gist.github.com/bbtdev/4f3f01ba2238219b720cf97cfa36c90c
[08:10] <GizmoRomick> It's funny which desktop environment I keep going back to with my i7/16 Gigs RAM/Gefore graphics Desktop computer...MATE
[08:10] <ducasse> za1b1tsu: you don't access a phone like a normal block device, since it isn't one. the desktop uses gvfs to access it via mtp, if you mount it there you can find it under /run/user/ID
[08:11] <pau> orange.
[08:14] <za1b1tsu> ducasse found it thanks
[08:34] <w_larsen> 32
[08:34] <w_larsen> hi
[08:35] <cfhowlett> greetings.  ask your support question
[08:38] <cadeskywalker>    2.dynamicip.rima-tde.net) a quitté
[08:38] <cadeskywalker>              (Quit: Leaving)
[08:39] <za1b1tsu> if the terminal opens in home/me/, if I want to go to /run/usr/ID do I have to do cd .., cd ..
[08:39] <za1b1tsu> or is there a faster way?
[08:43] <za1b1tsu> Found it I can do /./run/.... , but what does /. mean?
[08:44] <senaps> isntalling process for my ubuntu freezes  what can i do to find the reason? i have changed my hard disk, it has a windows 7 installed that i want to get rid off, but it's hanging with no reason :(
[08:44] <senaps> i select to try it live or install it, next page freezes.
[08:46] <ducasse> za1b1tsu: you can do 'cd /run/user/etc' in one step
[08:48] <za1b1tsu> ducasse oh I see, so how come it doesn't search for run in the current directoy?
[08:48] <za1b1tsu> because its '/run' not 'run/' it goes to root dir?
[08:53] <ducasse> za1b1tsu: because the initial / means /run is a subdir of the root
[08:53] <za1b1tsu> ducasse thank you
[09:02] <za1b1tsu> Is this correct command to find a file that contains 'code'? find /run/user/1000/gvfs/mtp\:host\=%5Busb%3A001%2C005%5D/ -name code
[09:02] <za1b1tsu> by contains code I mean it has the substring 'code' in its name
[09:04] <senaps> https://paste.ubuntu.com/26469286/  this is the log, and after this my screen just freezes.  i did this too, but didn't work. https://askubuntu.com/questions/861743/installation-of-ubuntu-16-04-from-a-usb-drive-freezes
[09:04] <ducasse> za1b1tsu: 'find /run/... -name *code*'
[09:05] <lotuspsychje> senaps: have you tested F1 at logo, to see what kind of errors show?
[09:05] <senaps> yup, the text pasted is the log from that.
[09:05] <ducasse> za1b1tsu: 'find -name code' will look for a file with the exact name 'code'
[09:06] <alocer> senaps, no error is in that log
[09:06] <za1b1tsu> ducasse, awesome cheers
[09:06] <ducasse> za1b1tsu: np
[09:07] <senaps> yup, no errors it just hangs... it copies the packages, does some gpg thing(i think it checks the signature or whatever) and then that 3-4 lines i copied and freezes.
[09:08] <za1b1tsu> ducasse, awesome cheers
[09:08] <za1b1tsu> ops mistake, but yeah you deserve multiple thanks lol
[09:08] <ducasse> :)
[09:13] <za1b1tsu> so I have some search results in terminal anyway I can select and copy parts of the find output?
[09:13] <za1b1tsu> *any way
[09:14] <za1b1tsu> without mouse
[09:15] <ducasse> not unless your terminal has a way to copy/paste with keyboard or you are using something like tmux
[09:16] <za1b1tsu> Im using terminator
[09:17] <senaps> is there any way for me to get out of this freezing thing? i had a cd for mint and did the same freezing without throwing any errors...
[09:18] <ducasse> i don't think so, then. i use termite, which can do it.
[09:18] <ducasse> za1b1tsu: ^^
[09:18] <za1b1tsu> is tmux, termite better for stuff like this?
[09:18] <za1b1tsu> I want to use avoid the mouse as often as I can
[09:19] <ducasse> tmux is not a terminal emulator, but it is something you should check out if you use the terminal a lot
[09:19] <lotuspsychje> senaps: is your system uefi?
[09:20] <senaps> lotuspsychje have no idea what that is. i checked for SATA Mode in setup thing and it was CHI or something like that, i changed that to see if it helps. and didn't. it just freezed again
[09:21] <lotuspsychje> senaps: tell us about your plan? ubuntu version? want to single install?
[09:21] <senaps> yup, i definetly want a single install, i have windows just to be able to make the usb bootable! i have downloaded latest 17.10 from ubuntu website
[09:22] <ducasse> senaps: 17.10 or 17.10.1?
[09:22] <senaps> 17.10.1
[09:23] <ducasse> good :)
[09:24] <senaps> my usb led stops blinking and is straight on, i think maybe it's installing or reading from the usb or something? :(
[09:25] <senaps> i punched my laptop, i lost my hard disk, i upgraded to a 1Tb hard and from 2 GB to 8GB ram.
[09:25] <lotuspsychje> senaps: uefi settings for singleboot needs fastboot & secureboot disabled, have you checked that
[09:25] <senaps> no, i don't have any idea what those are.
[09:26] <use-to> Hi guys!
[09:26] <lotuspsychje> senaps: you know howto enter bios?
[09:26] <senaps> yup.;
[09:26] <lotuspsychje> senaps: ok, try to look for those settings: fastboot, secureboot and disable them
[09:26] <lotuspsychje> !uefi | senaps
[09:27] <senaps> i don't have anything  such as fastboot or quietboot!
[09:27] <lotuspsychje> senaps: whats your computer model please?
[09:29] <senaps> acer travelmate 4750
[09:30] <use-to> quit
[09:30] <use-to> :D
[09:31] <lotuspsychje> senaps: ok that looks like old style bios
[09:31] <senaps> im on v1.15 bios
[09:33] <lotuspsychje> senaps: have you tried ubuntu 16.04 as a test?
[09:34] <senaps> recently? no. but before changing the hard, i have upgraded version by version from 9.4 and have had all the versions up to 17.10
[09:35] <lotuspsychje> senaps: i would suggest trying a liveusb 16.04.3 LTS as a test
[09:35] <senaps> im just testing a debian and it's got hold in detecting network hardware page.
[09:36] <lotuspsychje> senaps: we can only support the ubuntu part here :p
[09:36] <senaps> then i should download it again.
[09:43] <Bilz> hi all. i'm wondering if its possible for the volume keys to work when the screen is locked in gnome (ubuntu 16.04)
[09:43] <lotuspsychje> Bilz: have you tried the Fn + sound up/down buttons?
[09:44] <Bilz> lotuspsychje, sorry, that's exactly what I mean. my function keys don't work (for volume, at least) when the screen is locked
[09:44] <lotuspsychje> Bilz: they work when unlocked?
[09:45] <Bilz> lotuspsychje, yup
[09:45] <lotuspsychje> Bilz: this is ubuntu-gnome 16.04.3 right?
[09:46] <Bilz> lotuspsychje, yep
[09:47] <lotuspsychje> Bilz: perhaps try to ask this in #ubuntu-gnome if its normal behaviour, im on another version cant test
[09:47] <Bilz> thank you
[09:47] <lotuspsychje> Bilz: you want your music keep playing when its locked or so?
[09:48] <Bilz> lotuspsychje, my music does keep playing
[09:48] <Bilz> but i can't change the volume when the screen locks automatically
[09:48] <lotuspsychje> Bilz: ah but you cant adjust volume
[09:48] <pourya2374> hi!
[09:48] <Bilz> (or locks manually, for that matter)
[09:49] <lotuspsychje> pourya2374: welcome, what can we do for you?
[09:51] <lotuspsychje> Bilz: seems like an old bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-screensaver/+bug/970517
[09:52] <Bilz> darn
[09:52] <Bilz> and no way around it i suppose
[09:53] <lotuspsychje> Bilz: well i might add a new bug perhaps
[09:54] <alocer> doese ubuntu support nvidia dkms ?
[09:54] <alocer> i cannot find the package
[09:54] <alocer> so should i reinstall my nvidia after every kernel upgrade
[09:54] <alocer> ?
[09:55] <ducasse> alocer: there are nvidia dkms packages, yes - i think they're named nvidia-*
[09:55] <TJ-> alocer: there are 2 sources for nvidia drivers, the nvidia-XXX-dkms packages and the graphics-drivers PPA
[09:55] <TJ-> !graphics
[09:56] <TJ-> OK, ubottu, what's the factoid for the graphics-drivers PPA?
[09:56] <runawaysheld123> Hello
[09:56] <TJ-> !gpu
[09:56] <lotuspsychje> Bilz: just tested this on 18.04 with gnome, and my movie pauzes, i can adjust sound with Fn keys, but nothing to test
[09:56] <runawaysheld123> !gpu
[09:56] <qswz> guys, my printer uri is eading state information... Done
[09:56] <qswz> file:///dev/null
[09:57] <qswz> ^ sorry this
[09:57] <qswz> and obviously it's not printing
[09:57] <lotuspsychje> runawaysheld123: how can we help you?
[09:57] <Bilz> lotuspsychje, interesting, thanks
[09:57] <alocer> TJ-, well i upgraded my kernel today and it is using the nouveau again ..
[09:57] <runawaysheld123> !help
[09:58] <runawaysheld123> Im Running Ubuntu On VMware
[09:58] <TJ-> alocer: there are known breakages for the nvidia drivers which the graphics-driver PPA packages don't have, but I don't have the URL to hand and ubottu is not being helpful with the factoid about it - you'll need to web-search for the PPA :)
[09:59] <alocer> TJ-, thanks
[10:00] <lotuspsychje> !cups | qswz
[10:04] <TJ-> alocer: ahhh: https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[10:05] <qswz> ubottu: thanks ok
[10:06] <qswz> ah a bot lol
[10:06] <qswz> I installed te custom Brother drivers, but well
[10:08] <qswz> I get a  "package ia32-libs is not available, but is referred to by another package"
[10:08] <qswz> during install
[10:09] <alocer> dpkg --add-architecture x86
[10:09] <qswz> a thanks!
[10:10] <qswz> Odd number of elements in hash assignment at /usr/share/pkg-config-dpkghook line 30.
[10:10] <TJ-> alocer: qswz nope! tha'ts wrong. "sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386"
[10:12] <qswz> ah ok, works
[10:13] <qswz> Thanks
[10:26] <s10gopal> TJ-: acpi_osi= is not working , still battery draines
[10:26] <xCuri0> i tried to install live patching on elementary OS loki which is based on Ubuntu 16.04 and it gave this error
[10:26] <xCuri0> Livepatchd error: Detected elementary 0.4.1. Only Ubuntu 16.04 LTS is supported, exiting.
[10:26] <xCuri0> workaround ?
[10:26] <TJ-> s10gopal: did you see my follow-up on your bug report regarding the TPM ?
[10:27] <xCuri0> since elementary OS is basically Ubuntu 16.04 with a different desktop
[10:27] <TJ-> xCuri0: We don't support Elementary
[10:27] <xCuri0> TJ-, isn't it just ubuntu with a different desktop ?
[10:28] <lotuspsychje> xCuri0: we only support the official flavors
[10:28] <s10gopal> TJ-: i have to wait for v4.15?
[10:28] <lotuspsychje> !flavors | xCuri0
[10:28] <TJ-> s10gopal: you could test a mainline build from the kernel ppa
[10:28] <TJ-> !mainline | s10gopal
[10:28] <s10gopal> TJ-: thx i will
[10:29] <TJ-> s10gopal: I have a shell cript to make it easy to fetch and install those: http://iam.tj/projects/ubuntu/wget_kernel_mainline.sh
[10:30] <s10gopal> TJ-: thx a lot
[10:40] <s10gopal> TJ-: Error: exit with code 1
[10:42] <TJ-> s10gopal: right; read the report, it's probably telling you to install the signing key
[10:42] <s10gopal> TJ-: how ?
[10:42] <s10gopal> TJ-: got it
[10:43] <s10gopal> TJ-: key id ?
[10:44] <TJ-> s10gopal: about 3 lines above that message, far-right of the line... a string of HEX digits
[10:45] <s10gopal> TJ-: done , need to select kernel from grub ?
[10:46] <s10gopal> TJ-: u posted this ? "http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/02/ukuu-easy-way-to-install-mainline-kernel-ubuntu"
[10:48] <TJ-> s10gopal: no, I don't do GUI, I prefer console where I can see what is going on
[10:48] <s10gopal> TJ-: i think this is ur repo. sudo add-apt-repository ppa:teejee2008/ppa ?
[10:49] <TJ-> s10gopal: on reboot the new kernel should be the default since it is the latest
[10:49] <TJ-> s10gopal: no, that's nothing to do with me
[10:49] <s10gopal> TJ-: thx
[11:15] <za1b1tsu> Im trying to open a file from the terminal but I want to specify which application to use. I've read that I need to use -a argument open -a "app" file. But I get an error Invalid option a
[11:16] <cfhowlett> za1b1tsu, man open      will tell you the truth
[11:18] <za1b1tsu> cfhowlett: so there is no such thing as -a and furthermore there is no argument that allows me to open the file with a certain application?
[11:18] <cfhowlett> apparently the open command doesn't do that
[11:18] <za1b1tsu> but why does it show me arguments for the openvt, not open?
[11:19] <blackflow> za1b1tsu: you simply call the application you want to open it with, and then supply options and arguments depending on how that application expects it.
[11:21] <blackflow> for example:    /usr/bin/firefox /path/to/some/file.html    because firefox takes first positional argument as URL/path to open
[11:21] <blackflow> (technically it should be file:///path/to/some/file.html  but firefox is smart like that)
[11:21] <za1b1tsu> blackflow why the tripple /?
[11:22] <blackflow> za1b1tsu: because file://    /path/to/some/where
[11:22] <blackflow> the first part is scheme the second is absolute path
[11:22] <za1b1tsu> ah I see, thank you
[11:23] <ceephax> Hey, I'm a bit late updating from 17.04 to 17.10 and get 404's when i try and do a dist upgrade. Is it wise to just edit the /etc/apt/sources.list and replace "zesty" with "artful" or is there a better way?
[11:24] <cfhowlett> !eol | ceephax
[11:24] <TJ-> ceephax: does "sudo do-release-upgrade" not 'just work' ? It's supposed to skip unavailable repos - I tested it a few days ago
[11:28] <ceephax> TJ-: unfortunately not it says: https://paste.gnome.org/p16rppzz2
[11:30] <TJ-> ceephax: well, that's understandable. "http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu stable Release" "stable" is not an Ubuntu release, that's Debian
[11:30] <ceephax> ubottu: ok so that link you have sent says i do replace the eol codename with artful
[11:31] <ceephax> TJ-: oh thats strange i wonder how thats got in there then
[11:56] <TJ-> !minimal
[11:56] <Dkeagle> Hello!
[11:57] <Dkeagle> i'd like to install ubuntu server on a very old computer, it can't boot on USB and it only read CD, not DVD... The problem is the ubuntu server iso is 850mo...
[11:59] <cfhowlett> !pxe | Dkeagle
[11:59] <Dkeagle> !pxe
[11:59] <Dkeagle> ?
[12:00] <cfhowlett> !install | Dkeagle sorry, see the install factoid
[12:00] <TJ-> !minimal | Dkeagle
[12:01] <Dkeagle> i tried to use the mini iso (only 50mo) with net install
[12:01] <Dkeagle> but it installed ubuntu (normal), not ubuntu server...
[12:02] <gordonjcp> Dkeagle: can it netboot?
[12:02] <cfhowlett> Dkeagle, no worries then!  boot to the command line, remove the desktop metapackages
[12:02] <Dkeagle> don't think so
[12:02] <gordonjcp> Dkeagle: also, what sort of spec is it, if it can't boot off USB?
[12:02] <Dkeagle> Pentium 4, 2.00ghz, 1go RAM and 40Go HDD
[12:03] <Dkeagle> very old IBM Thinkpad XD
[12:03] <gordonjcp> okay
[12:03] <gordonjcp> is the hard disk parallel or SATA?
[12:04] <TJ-> Dkeagle: so it's 32-bit CPU as well
[12:04] <gordonjcp> Dkeagle: at that what I'd do is pull the drive, install it in something that *can* netboot or USB boot, and install on that, and then swap back
[12:04] <gordonjcp> TJ-: point
[12:04] <Dkeagle> i'm not sure but i'll say parallel, i don't think sata existed at this time xD
[12:04] <gordonjcp> Dkeagle: tbh you'd be better with something like Alpine Linux on that
[12:05] <gordonjcp> Dkeagle: even Ubuntu Server is a bit heavyweight for that spec
[12:05] <Dkeagle> on the specs page they say it's working well with 512mhz  cpu and 150mo ram
[12:05] <Dkeagle> i thought it was ok
[12:05] <TJ-> Ubuntu server without any additional packages is the same as ubuntu-minimal
[12:05] <gordonjcp> "well" is quite subjective
[12:06] <gordonjcp> that said, this VPS is 14.04 Server in 256MB of RAM
[12:06] <Dkeagle> i used the "mini.iso" here: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/xenial-updates/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/
[12:06] <gordonjcp> I wouldn't say it runs "well", especially when spamassassin is getting a pounding
[12:09] <senaps> no matter what version of ubuntu i try to install, it freezes :(  where to look for debuging/
[12:09] <b247> Hi, can someone provide help on Ubuntu 17, Desktop, Gnome 3? I want to be able to start Thunderbird at system startup, in minimized mode
[12:12] <lotuspsychje> senaps: did you test 16.04 as suggested?
[12:12] <senaps> yup, and i freezed in same place....
[12:13] <senaps> i tested debian and cent os, windows 10 too.... all freeze!!!! only win 7 works...the only thing i havent tested is burning ubuntu to cd and then installing it, witch is being done right now. im burning the cd.
[12:14] <brainwash> b247: maybe give this addon a try https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/firetray/
[12:15] <lotuspsychje> senaps: hd in good health?
[12:15] <cfhowlett> firetray has been discontinued ..
[12:15] <senaps> yup, it's a brand new thing, and has windows installed on it.
[12:15] <barnex> Hello, I have a device that udev thinks is a joystick (it's actually a built-in accelerometer) and I'd like to find out some info about it to add a rule that would make it not joystick. How do I go about it?
[12:16] <lotuspsychje> senaps: tested the live envoriment instead of installing ubuntu?
[12:16] <brainwash> cfhowlett: yes, that's what the info text says
[12:16] <senaps> live freezes in the same place.
[12:16] <lotuspsychje> senaps: is it possible to hastebin those errors?
[12:16] <senaps> i just noticed that my video memory is 128MB. does that make any problem?
[12:16] <cfhowlett> senaps, possibly less painful: windows + virtualbox + ubuntu
[12:17] <senaps> lotuspsychje there is no error. it's doing what its supposed to do, and freezes....
[12:17] <lotuspsychje> senaps: at wich step exactly?
[12:17] <senaps> cfhowlett i don't have any use for windows, and don't have good hardware for such virtualization! :)
[12:18] <b247> brainwash: This add-on is not compatible with your version of Thunderbird.
[12:18] <brainwash> b247: bummer
[12:18] <senaps> lotuspsychje screen asks for install or live, i select one, next page is the ubuntu splash, with dot's in the bottom, after 4- seconds it freezes.
[12:19] <lotuspsychje> senaps: could you F1 before it freezes, wanna know at wich point exactly
[12:20] <senaps> https://paste.ubuntu.com/26469286/
[12:20] <senaps> this is where it hangs... want me to type it all?
[12:20] <brainwash> b247: then I suggest reading through https://askubuntu.com/questions/663187/how-can-i-run-a-program-on-startup-minimized
[12:21] <lotuspsychje> senaps: artgul aardvark lol?
[12:21] <gordonjcp> Dkeagle: but yeah, easiest thing would be to get some sort of laptop PATA adaptor and mount it up on a "real" machine, and install it on that, and transplant it back
[12:22] <lotuspsychje> senaps: perhaps the few last lines you can see before freeze?
[12:22] <gordonjcp> Dkeagle: I have quite successfully stuck a laptop drive into a USB caddy, mounted it as a physical volume for a virtual machine, and then run the installer in the VM, but this is pretty serious nerdery
[12:23] <lotuspsychje> senaps: normally we could presume freeze happens on last line?
[12:23] <senaps> lotuspsychje i was typing fast! :)
[12:23] <lotuspsychje> senaps: glad, might thought a corrupt iso from somwhere dark :p
[12:24] <barnex> nvm, I've found that just removing the hp_accel module is simpler
[12:25] <lotuspsychje> !yay | barnex
[12:25] <senaps> yes, the last line is where it freezes... with debian,i get stuck in network-check(hardware), and in centos, i can't even pass through! it says kernel error.
[12:25] <barnex> curb your enthusiasm :P
[12:25] <barnex> would still be happy to know how to find those things out
[12:25] <lotuspsychje> barnex: cant find a decent wiki on it
[12:26] <lotuspsychje> barnex: is this really a joystick
[12:26] <barnex> no, it's an accelerometer built into a laptop, LIS3LV02DL
[12:27] <barnex> I imagine the original purpose was to detect falling down and stop the hdd
[12:27] <lotuspsychje> barnex: perhaps the #ubuntu-devel guys might know more about that
[12:29] <lotuspsychje> senaps: can you tell me what kernel error exactly? perhaps its a pae error?
[12:30] <senaps> something centos throws! :)let me look at it.
[12:30] <lotuspsychje> senaps: we can only support the ubuntu part
[12:31] <senaps> yup, okay... what should i do?
[12:31] <lotuspsychje> senaps: we just need your last error before freeze
[12:31] <lotuspsychje> on ubuntu
[12:32] <gianluca> damn
[12:32] <gianluca> what is this
[12:32] <lotuspsychje> !support | gianluca
[12:32] <Guest91925> ok bro
[12:35] <lotuspsychje> barnex: can this help in any way? https://askubuntu.com/questions/585706/deactivate-accelerometer
[12:36] <senaps> lotuspsychje it's that line i pasted.
[12:36] <barnex> lotuspsychje: thanks, yeah that's what I've found, like I said I unloaded the module and that's the fix "for now".
[12:36] <senaps> there is no error
[12:36] <b247> brainwash: thank you, that's the way I'll go
[12:36] <barnex> lotuspsychje: but I'll look into proper udev fix later I think... Unless this can only work as a joystick anyway, then there's no point indeed.
[12:37] <winky> hi
[12:37] <winky> is there any chatroom for android help?
[12:38] <barnex> #android and #android-dev - says google
[12:38] <barnex> same network
[12:38] <winky> thanks i appreciate it
[12:38] <barnex> good luck
[12:39] <winky> i need to register my nickname to chat there
[12:39] <winky> i dont remember how to register it
[12:39] <barnex> well then do that. This is really off-topic mate.
[12:39] <Borw3> LOL
[12:40] <lotuspsychje> !register | winky
[12:40] <winky> ok i found it
[12:40] <akik> senaps: when you're in the grub screen at boot-up, edit the boot parameters and remove "quiet splash" from them
[12:41] <akik> senaps: it could be a hardware problem if you're having this many problems booting different distros
[12:42] <senaps> okay let me burn another bootable usb and then.
[12:47] <chickengoat> how can i learn more about ubuntu?
[12:47] <chickengoat> or linux in general
[12:47] <chickengoat> is there any cool fonts
[12:47] <cfhowlett> !manaual | chickengoat
[12:47] <cfhowlett> !manual | chickengoat
[12:48] <chickengoat> thanks hommie
[12:48] <cfhowlett> !fcm | chickengoat
[12:48] <chickengoat> btw android channel is so quiet
[12:48] <chickengoat> i have a problem with my ubuntu , may u help me?
[12:49] <chickengoat> the right button doesnt work
[12:49] <cfhowlett> details
[12:49] <chickengoat> on the tactil mouse
[12:49] <chickengoat> i dont know if its a problem of my ubuntu or my laptop
[12:50] <Borw3> chickengoat: What Desktop Environment?
[12:50] <chickengoat> gnome
[12:51] <chickengoat> wait sorry
[12:51] <chickengoat> its the one who come with the last version of ubuntu
[12:51] <chickengoat> 17.10.1
[12:51] <Borw3> ~lol
[12:51] <chickengoat> with unity
[12:52] <chickengoat> Borw3, are u just here to laugh?
[12:52] <Borw3> chickengoat: IDK, maybe :D
[12:52] <chickengoat> nobody is born knowing like u hommie
[12:54] <chickengoat> is there anyone active
[12:54] <cfhowlett> !patience | chickengoat
[12:55] <chickengoat> ok
[12:55] <senaps> okay, i was trying to make the usb bootable, and was doing it by fat32 formating my usb, i just thought what the hell, lets test with ntfs, and it is installing. (i didn't have a choice, it came in to the live, and i clicked on install icon) erased my whole hard disk.
[12:55] <chickengoat> ntfs is for window bro
[12:56] <Borw3> !lol
[12:57] <senaps> i know, but it's working for installer usb flash. i didn't change the partitioning but hope i have my / and home in seperate partitions...
[12:57] <akik> senaps: you don't need to format the usb device. you can use rufus in windows to write it. press alt-i once and rufus responds with "disabling iso support", then just write the usb stick
[12:57] <cfhowlett> senaps, if not, you can change it to that setup post-insatll
[12:57] <chickengoat> i always use rufus for that
[12:58] <chickengoat> its awesome
[12:58] <chickengoat> are there any linux developers?
[12:59] <senaps> how would ubuntu partition my 1TB?
[13:00] <senaps> and it has installed unity again i guess, shouldn't it install on Gnome by default?(although i hate gnome!)
[13:00] <blackflow> senaps: 17.10 is gnome, but it's themed to look similar to unity.
[13:01] <senaps> chickengoat rufus didn't work for me, it was first to test. fat32 usb drive didn't work and freezed, NTFS is working up untill now, it's about 70-80 percent.
[13:02] <akik> senaps: you don't need to format the usb drive if you will write the ubuntu iso on it
[13:03] <s10gopal> akik: software auto format it
[13:03] <senaps> i know, but usb has to have a format anyways.....
[13:03] <akik> senaps: no
[13:04] <akik> senaps: are you going to write the ubuntu iso on it?
[13:04] <senaps> usb flash when you buy it is NTFS or FAT32 by default. it has a format. doesn't it?
[13:04] <akik> senaps: yes but it doesn't matter in this case
[13:05] <s10gopal> akik: he cant install ubuntu ( ufei) using ntfs
[13:05] <akik> s10gopal: the file system on the usb device does not matter
[13:06] <s10gopal> akik: i tried with ntfs , but failed to install
[13:06] <akik> it's like i'm talking to the wind
[13:07] <akik> sure you can test that the usb drive works and format it but if you'll write the ubuntu iso on it, it doesn't matter if it has a file system of any kind
[13:07] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:09] <s10gopal> akik: he dont want to make it bootable ?
[13:09] <chickengoat> the format that matters is the format where u are gonna install ur ubuntu but not the format from the usb where ure gonna install the iso right?
[13:09] <blackflow> senaps: what akik is failing to communicate is this. when you "format" a drive, you create a filesystem on it. The ISO is a "container" file that contains the filesystem already, so pre-formating the USB with a filesystem is irrelevant, since the contents of the ISO "container" will overwrite the USB, starting with first byte.
[13:10] <blackflow> ("container" in quotes, not to be confused with containers in context of virtualization)
[13:11] <akik> s10gopal: by writing the ubuntu iso on the usb drive, it'll be bootable automatically
[13:11] <oerheks> usb drive should be fat16/32, AFAIK..
[13:11] <s10gopal> i was right
[13:12] <chickengoat> in what were u right? lol
[13:12] <Sven_vB> I think I managed to install from an ext3 USB thumb drive as well. I guess any FS that the boot loader can read is fine.
[13:13] <s10gopal> he need fat32, it wont work in ntfs
[13:13] <Sven_vB> +I remember
[13:13] <senaps> thanks all, i just successfully installed my ubuntu, and had a moment of glory! for the first time of my life(using 8GB of ram!) i had 2 gb and 512Mb before this! for about 15 years.... so awesome experiensce it is to not have a lag! on opening firefox!!
[13:13] <s10gopal> it depends on efei / bios mode also
[13:14] <chickengoat> s10gopal,  it doesnt matter the format of the usb where u are going to install ur iso bro , as blackflow said the iso is a container with its fylesystem inside
[13:14] <akik> s10gopal: by writing the ubuntu iso on the usb drive, the underlying file system, be it fat or ntfs, will be destroyed and overwritten
[13:15] <s10gopal> sorry , i was wrong
[13:15] <oerheks> officially: the boot partition should be fat16/32. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[13:16] <oerheks> anyway, i missed the real issue here.
[13:19] <Sven_vB> I like to partition my USB thumb drives with 3 partitions: #1 FAT32 for legacy windows data transfer, #2 FAT32 with a hige file named "casper-rw" that holds an ext3 FS, #3 FAT32 about the size of the LiveCD image, with files copied onto it by UNetBootin. this way I can tell UNetBootin to just create ~4 MB of casper storage, then delete that one, and the live session will use the large casper instead.
[13:19] <s10gopal> oerheks: Tj helped me and he is fixing the  bug and it is ubuntu issue
[13:21] <Sven_vB> advantage is you keep your casper data between UNB install attempts, and UNB wastes less time on casper before trying the critical part, install the boot loader.
[13:21] <TJ-> wooa! too much mis-information here! For booting using EFI the EFI System Partition should be FAT, but GRUB's /boot/ is and should usually be a standard Linux file-system. For BIOS-boot the same (except there's no EFI-SP involved). For installing the ISO images are hybrid, meaning they have mutiple methods of booting to accomdoate almost all hardware: ISO9660+El Torito for CD/DVD, BIOS MBR/GPT + syslinux, and
[13:21] <TJ-> EFI GPT + GRUB
[13:23] <Sven_vB> oh and pro tip if you re-prepare a thumb drive with UNB: keep xdotool at hand to press "n" a few hundred times.
[13:24] <TJ-> And the ISO image is designed to be written to the installer device raw, starting from sector 0 byte 0. It totally overwrites any partitioning or file-systems (and data) already there
[13:24] <Sven_vB> TJ-, so no casper-rw for you
[13:24] <hastu> yo
[13:26] <TJ-> Sven_vB: I don't see the point; if persistence is needed a stock install is just as good, if not better.
[13:28] <Sven_vB> TJ-, by "stock install" do you mean writing the ISO raw? does that include space for the casper-rw nowadays?
[13:30] <Sven_vB> has been a few years since I tried raw, back then it had no persistence and legacy windows PCs couldn't store files on that USB drive.
[13:30] <TJ-> Sven_vB: stock install as-in installing Ubuntu to a USB mass-storage device rather than using a LiveISO squashfs + overlay for persisence. That probably made sense when USB devices were small (2/4GB) but nowadays they're more than big enough for a full uncompressed install
[13:31] <TJ-> Sven_vB: a stock install can also have a FAT32 partition #1 for multi-OS support
[13:31] <Sven_vB> sounds like I should read about stock install.
[13:32] <TJ-> Sven_vB: it's just doing the manual partitioning step in the installer and creating the first partition as FAT for multi-OS sharing, then creating the remainder for Linux as per normal
[13:33] <Sven_vB> TJ-, how would I start the installer (and which one? Ubiquity?) w/o creating a live USB drive first?
[13:34] <Sven_vB> oh, maybe you mean use a live USB w/o persistence to install a vanilla ubuntu onto another USB thumb drive?
[13:36] <Sven_vB> or maybe "stock install" means you're "stock" enough to not need persistence in the session that you use to run Ubiquity.
[13:36] <Sven_vB> like in the old days when we used actual CD-ROMs
[13:38] <BluesKaj> this old pc misses the old days :-)
[13:39] <Sven_vB> well I'll read some docs about it, will probably enlighten me more than guessing.
[13:40] <Sven_vB> haha nice, searching for "ubuntu stock install" mostly finds "stuch" ubuntu installs
[13:40] <Sven_vB> *stuck
[13:45] <Sven_vB> looks like https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/tutorial-install-ubuntu-desktop is the official guide. meh that it seems to require JS to even render anything. :/
[13:46] <Sven_vB> well I guess anyone going to install the ISO from that site can be assumed to accept arbitrary code execution in their browser as well. :D
[13:47] <BluesKaj> another new user leaves after being intimidated by what appears to be hi-level technical discussuion
[13:49] <BluesKaj> not many new users asking elementary questions in this chat lately
[13:49] <Sven_vB> and that tutorial assumes I just happen to have a live USB at hand.
[13:54] <Sven_vB> doesn't really matter in the end, I'll just keep my partitioning scheme since it works nicely for me. :)
[14:01] <snql> yo
[14:02] <snql> i can't download deb file. the link from this page doesn't work https://packages.ubuntu.com/zesty/amd64/chromium-codecs-ffmpeg-extra/download
[14:02] <snql> 404
[14:07] <TJ-> !eol | snql
[14:07] <TJ-> !zesty
[14:07] <snql> tyvm
[14:12] <VL6QDioiTsgY4QT> Hi, I'm trying to install some packages on Ubuntu 16.04.3 running 'sudo apt-get --install-suggests install build-essential', but I'm getting as error message: 'The following packages have unmet dependencies:  build-essential : Depends: dpkg-dev (>= 1.17.11) but it is not going to be installed. E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.'
[14:12] <VL6QDioiTsgY4QT> Should I try to force installation of dpkg-dev?
[14:14] <TJ-> VL6QDioiTsgY4QT: does "sudo apt-get -f install" fix things?
[14:14] <oerheks> why "--install-suggests" as the metapackage just does that?
[14:14] <oerheks> and did you properly update before installing?
[14:15] <VL6QDioiTsgY4QT> oerheks: I ran it without the flag, and the suggested packages weren't listed as being marked to be installe, that's why I used the flag.
[14:15] <TJ-> VL6QDioiTsgY4QT: As oerheks suggests, there are no "Suggests" or "Recommends" for build-essential
[14:15] <TJ-> VL6QDioiTsgY4QT: presumably you want the 'suggests' for the dependent packages then?
[14:15] <VL6QDioiTsgY4QT> oerheks: Yes, system is up to date
[14:16] <TJ-> VL6QDioiTsgY4QT: is the system multi-arch with a foreign-architecture declated?
[14:16] <VL6QDioiTsgY4QT> TJ-: I had just run 'sudo apt-get install build-essential', and when I looked at the suggested package list I found most of them were interesting, but weren't listed the about to install packages
[14:17] <TJ-> VL6QDioiTsgY4QT: OK, I thought that may be it
[14:17] <VL6QDioiTsgY4QT> TJ-: Nope, it's basically a fresh install of ubuntu server 64 bit. I didn't do anything fancy with it yet
[14:18] <oerheks> xenial updates gives dpkg-dev (1.18.4ubuntu1.3) >> https://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial-updates/dpkg-dev
[14:18] <oerheks> so you are not up2date ..
[14:18] <oerheks> sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade # to see if packages/kernels are held back
[14:18] <VL6QDioiTsgY4QT> oerheks: I had run sudo apt update and sudo apt upgrade
[14:18] <VL6QDioiTsgY4QT> Probably I have a bad mirror then?
[14:19] <oerheks> try full-upgrade
[14:19] <VL6QDioiTsgY4QT> Oh, I didn't know it had to be full-upgrade, sorry
[14:19] <oerheks> anyway, the output of update should show packages held back, if any
[14:19] <TJ-> oerheks: the messages isn't saying it's going to install 1.17.11 it's saying it depends on a version >= to that, which 1.18.4 matches
[14:20] <VL6QDioiTsgY4QT> Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done All packages are up to date.
[14:20] <VL6QDioiTsgY4QT> It seems I'm okay
[14:20] <VL6QDioiTsgY4QT> Calculating upgrade... Done 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[14:21] <VL6QDioiTsgY4QT> Neither update and full upgrade seemed to want to install something
[14:21] <oerheks> can you paste the output of:  sudo apt-get install build-essential
[14:21] <oerheks> on paste.ubuntu.com
[14:21] <VL6QDioiTsgY4QT> sure, just a sec
[14:22] <TJ-> VL6QDioiTsgY4QT: show us "pastebinit <( sudo apt-get -o APT::Get::Show-Versions=true --install-suggests install build-essential )"
[14:22] <VL6QDioiTsgY4QT> oerheks: https://paste.ubuntu.com/26470561/
[14:23] <VL6QDioiTsgY4QT> TJ-: I'll do it now
[14:23] <TJ-> VL6QDioiTsgY4QT: mine adds debug logic to help us identify package versions
[14:23] <VL6QDioiTsgY4QT> TJ-: I understand sir, I'll do both.
[14:24] <Torm> How can i change the text color of Ubuntu in CLI?
[14:24] <VL6QDioiTsgY4QT> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/26470570/
[14:24] <TJ-> Torm: depends on how you're accessing it - is it via a GUI Terminal emulator program? In which case it'll have options to change the colour scheme
[14:25] <Torm> @tj I am running an ubuntu minimal cd on a laptop
[14:25] <VL6QDioiTsgY4QT> TJ-: besides that I get 'E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.' on console, probablu because standard error wasn't redirected
[14:25] <TJ-> VL6QDioiTsgY4QT: I think you may have found a bugette :)
[14:26] <VL6QDioiTsgY4QT> TJ-: Yeah, I was considreing that already
[14:26] <VL6QDioiTsgY4QT> But I thought about saking for smarter persons first
[14:26] <VL6QDioiTsgY4QT> TJ-: Should I fill any ticket?
[14:26] <amru> ping
[14:27] <amru> you want fedora workstation
[14:27] <TJ-> VL6QDioiTsgY4QT: hang on I'm testing here to see if I can reproduce
[14:28] <dhdfhdf> help
[14:28] <lotuspsychje> amru: dont suggest other distro's here please
[14:28] <lotuspsychje> !ask | dhdfhdf
[14:29] <amru> yes
[14:29] <dhdfhdf> I am sorry
[14:29] <dhdfhdf> I wanted to use the irc help command and mistyped
[14:29] <VL6QDioiTsgY4QT> away from keyboard, will be back in half an hour or so
[14:30] <oerheks> VL6QDioiTsgY4QT, without  --install-suggests it looks fine..
[14:30] <Torm> How can i change the text color of Ubuntu in CLI?
[14:30] <lotuspsychje> dhdfhdf: this is ubuntu support, what are you looking for exactly?
[14:30] <amru> how i know
[14:30] <amru> but i dont professional
[14:30] <amru> i beginners
[14:31] <lotuspsychje> Torm: you mean overall system text color, or terminal text colors?
[14:31] <oerheks> amru, join #fedora for that, this is ubuntu support only
[14:31] <amru> yess
[14:31] <amru> i am very sorry
[14:32] <TJ-> VL6QDioiTsgY4QT: well, **don't** use -install-suggests, the chain results in 2.5GB of packages including all of the desktop GUI and lots of other stuff being installed!
[14:33] <TJ-> VL6QDioiTsgY4QT: but I cannot reproduce your "not going to be installed" message
[14:33] <amru> how to solve failed install app in ubuntu
[14:33] <Torm> lotuspsychje system text color in the Ubuntu Command line interface
[14:33] <Borw3> LOL
[14:34] <dhdfhdf> lotuspsychje: I am running a Ubuntu 17.10 64bit System and I can't get my "One by Wacom" (CTL-672) running. I have tried multiple different approaches I have found but there is always a multitude of problems. I am quite new too Linux and I could use some help.
[14:34] <amru> how ubuntu works???
[14:35] <Borw3> LOL
[14:35] <Borw3> amru: Magic of Thor :D
[14:36] <amru> i have 5 ubuntu here
[14:36] <TJ-> amru: you might find #ubuntu-pk more helpful for non-support questions
[14:36] <amru> but how them i use
[14:36] <Borw3> LOL
[14:37] <Borw3> amru: You put machine in water, and press [ON].
[14:37] <oerheks> Borw3, stop the 'lol' please, thanks
[14:37] <oerheks> oh ...
[14:37] <TJ-> Borw3: please stop with the unhelpful comments
[14:38] <oerheks> !ops | Borw3 is trolling again
[14:39] <amru> i very like ubuntu, because it simple and changeable desktop environment than microsoft windows...
[14:39] <oerheks> amru,  explain your problem please, what ubuntu version, what program fails to install?
[14:40] <amru> i use ubuntu mate 16.04.3 xenial xerus and program to installation is virtualbox 5.2
[14:41] <dhdfhdf> So is anybody here that has some experience with wacom tablets and may be willing to help? I can post the specifics but I don't want to spam this chat.
[14:42] <oerheks> amru, virtualbox gives 5.0.40 for xenial https://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial-updates/virtualbox
[14:51] <arun007> Hi I would like to create a custom ubuntu iso. Does CUBIC support UEFI booting
[14:51] <lotuspsychje> dhdfhdf: this looks like a good start: http://linuxwacom.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
[14:55] <oerheks> arun007,  can't find that info, anyway pinguybuilder does
[14:56] <lotuspsychje> arun007: you can also contact the maintainer: https://launchpad.net/~cubic-wizard
[14:56] <dhdfhdf> lotuspsychje: I did that but I get weird error messages and it doesn't work.  I tried this (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wacom/LatestDriver) but it tells me the artful release is not there. I tried two other websites aswell. =(
[14:56] <arun007> Ok I will try pinguybuilder
[14:57] <lotuspsychje> dhdfhdf: 17.10 got wacom section system settings, did you check there also?
[14:59] <lotuspsychje> dhdfhdf: you can test stylus/tablet/bluetooth there
[15:00] <dhdfhdf> lotuspsychje: It doesn't find the tablet.
[15:03] <lotuspsychje> dhdfhdf: this looks like a clean tut: https://medium.com/@ahris/setting-up-wacom-tablets-with-ubuntu-16-04-d7277e4a595d
[15:03] <gambl0re> anyone have expreience with pgadmin3?
[15:04] <oerheks> this linux wacom page gives 056a:037B	CTL-672	One by Wacom		NO	NO	NO ... no support :-( http://linuxwacom.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Device_IDs
[15:04] <lotuspsychje> dhdfhdf: can you see yours under lsusb?
[15:08] <paulnoise> Hi, I found the answer for this in this room before and wrote it down somewher safe......
[15:08] <dhdfhdf> lotuspsychje: yes (Bus 001 Device 008: ID 056a:037b Wacom Co., Ltd ) thank you for the link
[15:09] <paulnoise> I have an issue when i change the volume on my laptop (ubuntu studio) using the taks bar icon, I get a second volume control appearing above it.  any Idea how to stop this
[15:10] <dhdfhdf> oerheks: Does this mean that I there is no way that I can get it to work and have to wait for someone to write the driver or learn to do that myself? I don't want to go back to Windows ;(
[15:11] <dingir_> where do i go to change the audio output to use the nvidia hdmi so sound is on TV
[15:12] <dingir_> it it on both computer and tv as soon as i plug the cable in the video card output or only on tv or only on computer and i have to manually select audio out somewhere?
[15:13] <Fint> hello
[15:14] <lotuspsychje> paulnoise: have you tried the ubuntu studio channel?
[15:14] <lotuspsychje> Fint: welcome, how can we help you?
[15:14] <Fint> no
[15:15] <Fint> i don't know how to use it
[15:15] <Fint> can you help me
[15:15] <lotuspsychje> Fint: what are you looking for exactly?
[15:16] <Fint> .. don't know
[15:16] <Borw3> Is it possible to skip upgrade from 14.04 LTS to 18.04 LTS?
[15:16] <lotuspsychje> Fint: you need help on you dont know what?
[15:17] <Fint> yes
[15:17] <lotuspsychje> dingir_: you can play with your sound settings: internal sound/hdmi sound
[15:17] <Drammer> ok
[15:18] <Fint> Are you a real man
[15:18] <Fint> ok
[15:18] <lotuspsychje> Fint: please only ubuntu support here, this is not a chat
[15:18] <Fint> OK
[15:19] <Fint> thankyou
[15:19] <Fint> web sqlmap
[15:23]  * oerheks waiting for a proper question, web sqlmap is just a word
[15:25] <lotuspsychje> !ltsupgrade > Borw3
[15:30] <VL6QDioiTsgY4QT> TJ-, oerheks: Okay, thanks for the advice gentlemen
[15:30] <VL6QDioiTsgY4QT> I'll install the interesting packages individually
[15:31] <Fint> n
[15:31] <dhdfhdf> Thanks for the answers. Have a nice weekend! bye
[15:45] <backbox> hey
[15:47] <oerheks> hi backbox, another happy backbox user in the wrong place :-D
[15:53] <Toba> I have an issue since doing the release upgrade to ubuntu 17.10
[15:53] <Toba> I used to have this issue only on the full disk encryption prompt when I was running xenial
[15:54] <Toba> https://mobile.twitter.com/toba/status/957270281910931457?p=p
[15:54] <Toba> The effect I'm getting happens both in X11 and at the character TTYs
[15:56] <Toba> there are vertical columns of pixels... not sure how many pixels wide exactly. I think I'm seeing every-other column of the actual video output ubuntu is trying to create
[15:56] <Toba> So half of the vertical columns have been deleted and the others just pushed up against each other
[15:57] <Toba> seems like a video driver issue to me. Any ideas?
[15:59] <Borw3> Toba: Video driver causing characters to change? I think its CPU/GPU problem in my opinion.
[15:59] <Toba> it's not characters changing
[15:59] <Toba> it's the entire video output having this 'grating' effect
[16:00] <Toba> and it was never happening in unity until after I did a release upgrade to 17.10 last night
[16:00] <Borw3> GIMP turns to GUmgM :D
[16:00] <Toba> Yeah it's kinda beautiful. I am laughing but also I can barely use the computer like this
[16:00] <Borw3> Thats characters
[16:00] <Toba> it's like being in star trek and here I am on an alien vessel trying to check my email
[16:01] <Toba> no, it's not just that
[16:01] <Toba> allow me to demonstrate. please hold
[16:01] <Borw3> Tried booting from another OS?
[16:01] <Toba> I haven't yet
[16:01] <Toba> I could try some other distro live usb or something I guess to prove it's not hardware
[16:01] <Borw3> I bet your BIOS got same character issues
[16:01] <Borw3> Yeah, try LOL.
[16:01] <Toba> but I think you will understand it has nothing to do with the characters, those are just a funny entertaining example to look at because it's funny
[16:02] <ikonia> Borw3: you understand the bios doesn't govern the characters on screen
[16:02] <Borw3> LOL, g2g ... brb soon
[16:03] <Borw3> ikonia: I guess it's the CPU/GPU that governs the rendering of characters.
[16:03] <ikonia> Borw3: I'd appreciate it if you could stop helping if you don't know / understand how the components work
[16:03] <ikonia> Borw3: guessing 'its the bios' is not helpful, so if you don't know, just don't help,
[16:04] <Borw3> ikonia: LOL, I didn't say it's the BIOS, I said he should try entering BIOS or boot up another OS, and if same issue exists, then its CPU/GPU problem
[16:04] <Borw3> ....or hardware
[16:04] <ikonia> 6:01 < Borw3> I bet your BIOS got same character issues
[16:04] <ikonia> Borw3: thats you saying it's the bios
[16:05] <ikonia> Borw3: and entering the bios would prove nothing,
[16:05] <Borw3> ikonia: LOL, I ment the BIOS would also display funny characters
[16:05] <ikonia> Borw3: sop with the "lol"
[16:05] <ikonia> Borw3: again - please stop helping if you don't understand
[16:05] <Borw3> ikonia: :D
[16:05] <Borw3> xD
[16:06] <ikonia> Borw3: final warning - stop
[16:08] <Borw3> ikonia: :D........my hunctch is that it's CPU/GPU issue not the BIOS, and that his CPU/GPU might be degraded/degrading.
[16:09] <Toba> to put this whole bios thing to bed, the problem doesn't happen before it reaches grub
[16:09] <ikonia> Toba: sorry that noise was in the way of you geting help
[16:09] <Toba> I don't remember if grub does it, but linux does and bios doesn't
[16:13] <causative> in 17.04 and earlier I liked to use the process manager applet to see small graphs of system resources at all times on the top bar, in 17.10 this is now broken, can anybody recommend a different program that does the same?
[16:14] <causative> gnome-system-monitor
[16:14] <Toba> Here's a demonstration of the mouse going into the "hidden" columns and out again - I was going approximately constant speed with the mouse. https://mobile.twitter.com/toba/status/957285485730238465/video/1
[16:17] <popey> Toba: what hardware you on there?
[16:18] <Deihmos> Ubuntu has scaling options of 100 200
[16:18] <Deihmos> is there no way to get 150%
[16:19] <Toba> https://paste.ubuntu.com/26471117/
[16:19] <causative> I have installed gnome-shell-extension-system-monitor but it does not show up in the status bar, how can I cause it to show up?
[16:20] <causative> if I run gnome-shell-extension-prefs I find there is a slider set to "on" for this, but nothing is showing up
[16:20] <popey> Toba: you on 17.10 wayland session?
[16:20] <Toba> This is the card I have - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B072J422CZ/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
[16:20] <Toba> How do I check what kind of session I'm on, popey?
[16:21] <Toba> It is worth noting that this happens when I use ctrl+alt+fX to go to terminals too.
[16:21] <popey> echo $XDG_SESSION_TYPE
[16:22] <popey> Sounds like this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1740484
[16:22] <ioria> causative,  check   https://askubuntu.com/questions/973774/replacement-for-system-monitor-applet-for-17-10 for missing packages ; see also https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/120/system-monitor/
[16:23] <Toba> I will look into that bug and see if I think it's the same issue
[16:24] <causative> yes ioria I have installed the latter but it's not showing up
[16:24] <ioria> causative, try gnome-tweak
[16:27] <causative> didn't see anything that worked
[16:27] <ioria> causative, don't forget logout/in
[16:30] <Toba> oh yeah, I do get some glitching stuff like these bugs show, sometimes, and I did before
[16:30] <causative> thanks ioria I'm seeing something now
[16:30] <causative> unnecessarily large though
[16:30] <Toba> but the vertical columns being folded in like this has got worse, and isn't in this bug report I don't think
[16:30] <ioria> causative, ok, maybe requires a reboot (maybe not)
[16:31] <Toba> I'm pretty unhappy with the firmware of my QNIX 4k monitor in the first place, so I was originally chalking most of the issues I had up to buying a cheap monitor, now in this worsened light I think it's software
[16:35] <causative> ah it's working nicely now
[16:35] <causative> ty
[16:36] <ioria> causative, oky
[16:37] <Deihmos> just inatalled 17.10. how do you set up custom scaling
[16:37] <Deihmos> all it has is 100 200 300
[16:42] <aQaTL> Hello, I have a problem with wifi on Ubuntu 17.10. I have TP-LINK TL-WN881ND wireless card (RTL8192EE). I can see networks but I can't connect to them. I tried with wicd, tried diabling mac randomization, restarting networking service and dhclient
[16:42] <aQaTL> dmesg shows:
[16:44] <aQaTL> https://pastebin.com/WvSYvvn4
[16:45] <aQaTL> it looks like there's problem with authentication
[16:45] <Toba> echo $XDG_SESSION_TYPE
[16:45] <aQaTL> x11
[16:46] <Toba> sorry, I was trying to copy-paste 2 lines. The next was wayland... so yes popey I am on wayland
[16:46] <Toba> The UI is a real trip to try to use with all this corruption
[16:47] <Toba> I can only chat because I'm using screen -x to make irssi actually readable on another computer next to this one
[16:48] <zomaar> aQaTL: I don't even know what it is trying to authenticate against. What is this stuff?
[16:48] <aQaTL> it's when I'm trying to connect to my wifi network
[16:49] <zomaar> Did it work in Xenial or Yakkety or Zesty?
[16:50] <arm1e> Hi, can anyone help me make chrome and firefox look less like crap on a 1366x768 screen
[16:50] <aQaTL> it's a new computer, assembled yesterday
[16:50] <zomaar> Why does it look like cra
[16:50] <aQaTL> i havent tried other distos
[16:50] <zomaar> crap
[16:51] <aQaTL> ?
[16:52] <zomaar> I have no answer to you aQaTL
[16:53] <aQaTL> eh, when during install it wouldn't connect, but it connected when I rebooted after finished installation.
[16:53] <aQaTL> And then I wanted to switch to another wifi network
[16:53] <aQaTL> and now none of them are working
[17:05] <arm1e> Anyone know how to improve chrome and firefox on 1366x768 displays? The titlebars and fonts take up far too much realestate. I have wondered this for years but not found a fix. The same programs look fine on windows with the same resolution.
[17:15] <jusss> I'm using ubuntu 18.04, I have a touch screen, and it always pop up a on-screen keyboard, but how I can use it to input ctrl key?
[17:16] <jusss> a keyboard without ctrl or tab or shift esc, you guys call that a keyboard???
[17:18] <thehebs> are there any good monitoring apps for ubuntu, to send me alerts if a server goes down, or if a service running on the server goes down
[17:18] <thehebs> im running a bunch of masternodes for a friend
[17:18] <thehebs> (crypto currency stuff)
[17:19] <kostkon> !ubuntu+1 | jusss
[17:23] <Dirkos> Im using "fpm" to create new deb packages. Is there a difference in installed between apt install ./package.deb and dpkg -i ./package.deb?
[17:24] <Dirkos> Since with apt it will not run my "pre-install" scripts and stuff it seems. Thing is that dpkg -i wont install all my dependencies automaticly
[17:28] <tomreyn> Dirkos: dpkg -i will set dependencies as needed. a follow-up "apt update && apt -f install" will install those dependencies.
[17:28] <TheSHAD0W> Howdy.  I'm not seeing any sign of windows networking on a newly updated xubuntu system.  Samba client is running.  Are there any new firewall settings that need to be tweaked?
[17:28] <tomreyn> Dirkos: the correct way to install software with dependencies, of course, is from an apt repository, using apt.
[17:29] <Dirkos> tomreyn: yeah i know but somehow when i do it, it does not run the scripts or something
[17:29] <Dirkos> using this atm: https://github.com/jordansissel/fpm
[17:30] <tomreyn> Dirkos: also i don't think "apt install ./package.deb" will install a package 'package' from a local file 'package.deb' but it looks for a package called './package.deb' (mathching the name as plain text, via globbing and via regular expressions) from the configured apt repositories.
[17:31] <ducasse> tomreyn: actually, it will indeed install a local .deb
[17:31] <tomreyn> at least that's how apt-get does it, and how i interpret the 'apt' manual page on 16.04
[17:31] <zomaar> Does anyone know if the KDE tooltip color for GTK apps bug is solved in Xenial with xenial-backports?
[17:31] <tomreyn> ducasse: hmm i don't see any hint on this on the man page, but maybe i didnt look closely enough?
[17:32] <ducasse> tomreyn: i've used it a ton of times, so i'm certain of it
[17:32] <tomreyn> ok, i guess we need to file a documentatrion bug then
[17:33] <tomreyn> on 16.04?
[17:33] <Dirkos> tomreyn: is there a way to install a package from apt locally?
[17:33] <tomreyn> Dirkos: ducasse just said that i was wrong and apt actually will install local packages the way you tried
[17:34] <tomreyn> (and i have no reason to believe he's wrong)
[17:34] <ducasse> tomreyn: at least xenial and up, unsure about earlier
[17:34] <tomreyn> thanks!
[17:35] <tomreyn> Dirkos: oh maybe i got your question wrong, are you asking whether you can use apt to install a package form a local apt package repository?
[17:36] <tomreyn> if so, yes you can
[17:38] <Dirkos> yeah well i have one problem with it sec
[17:38] <Dirkos> let me uninstall it first
[17:38] <tomreyn> i think it will handle file:// URIs just fine. https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/87130/how-to-quickly-create-a-local-apt-repository-for-random-packages-using-a-debian
[17:39] <tomreyn> you'll need to either gpgp sign packages (and import the key to the apt client) or use '[trusted=yes]' in your sources.list, though
[17:39] <Dirkos> this is what i get: omnius-ose : Depends: php7.1-cli but it is not installable
[17:40] <Dirkos> if i run dpkg -i however it runs some pre-install scripts
[17:40] <tomreyn> Dirkos: if apt fails to resolve dependencies it won't install a package
[17:41] <Dirkos> yeah thats why there is a pre-install to add a PPA before installing
[17:41] <tomreyn> hmm, that's rather dirty.
[17:42] <tomreyn> i would not mess with apt sources as part of a package installation.
[17:42] <Dirkos> then how to resolve that? Since i want the package to have all dependencies installed right?
[17:43] <tomreyn> you askthe user to install the ppa first using the utilities ubuntu provides (apt-add-repository), then ask them to install the other package.
[17:43] <Dirkos> well there are pros/cons ofc
[17:43] <Dirkos> then it works fine it seems
[17:43] <tomreyn> that's more manual work for the user but it puts the decision on what to trust to them, where it belongs
[17:44] <Dirkos> tomreyn: true that, good tip
[17:44] <Dirkos> the tooling FPM is pretty cool however :)
[17:45] <zomaar> Personally I don't like it when installers run apt update without asking, if I'm on a slow link
[17:46] <zomaar> Ubuntu does not use diffs for the list updates
[17:46]  * tomreyn definitely does not like packages to modify his systems' apt sources without making me opt in to it.
[17:46] <ivan__> Public service announcement: don't forget to rm -rf *.tar.gz from ~/Downloads :)
[17:46] <zomaar> *apt in to it
[17:46] <zomaar> :)
[17:47] <zomaar> On a really slow link it might take an hour to update apt
[17:47] <tomreyn> btw. this packaging discussion would better fit to #ubuntu-(app-)devel i think.
[17:47] <tomreyn> (sorry for not pointing this out earlier)
[17:49] <zomaar> Solving which topic goes into which bucket is not an interesting problem ;-)
[17:50] <Dirkos> zomaar: yeah good tip
[17:53] <ikonia>  /win 7
[17:53] <ikonia> oops
[17:54] <zomaar> Does anyone know if the KDE tooltip color for GTK apps bug is solved in Xenial with xenial-backports?
[17:55] <zomaar> I mean that GIMP, Inkscape etc. will have unreadable tooltips
[17:59] <ioria> zomaar, nope, but maybe a workaround  (Appearance -> Colors -> Options: Disable  "Apply colors to non-QT-applications")  https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=197071
[17:59] <zomaar> ioria: Right, thanks
[17:59] <ioria> zomaar, ok
[18:00] <zomaar> You mean "No it is not solved" right?
[18:01] <ioria> zomaar, no, i mean idk :þ
[18:01] <zomaar> Oh ok
[18:01] <zomaar> Miss tongue person :p
[18:02] <zomaar> Well good to know anyway
[18:08] <TheSHAD0W> Howdy.  I'm not seeing any sign of windows networking on a newly updated xubuntu system.  Samba client is running.  Are there any new firewall settings that need to be tweaked?
[18:12] <ioria> TheSHAD0W, ufw is disabled by default (sudo ufw status) ; check the windows side
[18:14] <TheSHAD0W> ioria: You're correct, ufw is inactive.  So...  What else would do it?
[18:15] <ioria> TheSHAD0W, the Win settings are correct ?
[18:17] <TheSHAD0W> ioria: I haven't gone through them.  It used to pick them up by default, the windows boxes are all set to "WORKGROUP"...
[18:18] <Fenhl> hello! I'm trying to set up mpd on a system with two audio outputs according to the Settings app. One of them is the HDMI output which is selected as default and works. The other isn't connected to a speaker. I've tried all combinations of card and device numbers as shown by `aplay -l` as the `device` field in the `audio_output` config, but none of them play any sound. Any other ideas?
[18:19] <ioria> TheSHAD0W, smbclient -L  winpc-ip
[18:22] <TheSHAD0W> NT_STATUS_CONNECTION_RESET
[18:22] <mitmf> hello how can i install asm debugger?
[18:23] <TheSHAD0W> ioria: ^
[18:24] <TheSHAD0W> This is a W7 machine I'm trying to pull off of.
[18:25] <ioria> TheSHAD0W, how did you install samba ? i mean what packages ?
[18:25] <TheSHAD0W> ioria: The default on xubuntu LTS.
[18:26] <TheSHAD0W> Actually, a friend's been monkeying with it; smbclient was uninstalled.  ^^;
[18:26] <ioria> TheSHAD0W,  what packages ?   it's not installed by default
[18:26] <TheSHAD0W> I used apt-get install smbclient to install that, it's all I've installed (plus its dependencies).
[18:27] <ioria> TheSHAD0W,  sudo apt install    samba samba-common python-glade2 system-config-samba
[18:27] <TheSHAD0W> TY, working.
[18:29] <mitmf> hello how can i install asm debugger?
[18:30] <mitmf> help me
[18:31] <TheSHAD0W> ioria: Done: Still showing the same message.  Restart machine, or... ?
[18:31] <ioria> TheSHAD0W,  ps -A | grep 'smbd\|nmbd'
[18:33]  * TheSHAD0W really should connect to irc on that machine instead of memorizing commands and running to the other room :-P
[18:34] <TheSHAD0W> Shows 3x smbd processes and 1x nmbd process.
[18:34] <ioria> TheSHAD0W,  ok, can you ping the win pc ?
[18:34] <TheSHAD0W> Lemme repeat that, I tried that before.
[18:35] <TheSHAD0W> Yes, still pingable.
[18:36] <ioria> TheSHAD0W,  smbclient //win_pc_name/shared_folder
[18:37] <TheSHAD0W> Same protocol failure message.
[18:37] <TheSHAD0W> NT_STATUS_CONNECTION_RESET
[18:38] <TheSHAD0W> And unfortunately I have to leave.
[18:39] <ioria> TheSHAD0W,  try this:     smbclient -m SMB2 -L    ip
[18:42] <TheSHAD0W> ioria: NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE, which is an improvement.  The system is password protected.
[18:42] <TheSHAD0W> I'm out, TYVM for your help, I may be able to take it from here.
[18:42] <ioria> TheSHAD0W,  ok, gl
[18:52] <lapion> r8169 rtl module cannot be compiled for 4.13.0
[18:52] <lapion> r8169 rtl module cannot be compiled for kernel4.13.0
[19:05] <lapion> Solved the problem never mind
[19:08] <nicomachus> I'm getting an error while copying some files to the SD Card in my Android phone. I just did it through nautilus, and the copy gets hung on 12 bytes of 349.2 MB, then errors out with 'libmtp error: Could not send object'
[19:12] <pedro_> boa tarde
[19:12] <marathon> try killing adb and restarting it.
[19:20] <nicomachus> marathon: no dice.
[19:21] <marathon> You did 'sudo killall adb'?
[19:21] <nicomachus> marathon: I rebooted the machine.
[19:21] <marathon> Wow that's overkill
[19:21] <marathon> OK
[19:21] <nicomachus> marathon: between yesterday and today.
[19:23] <marathon> What have you tried and what version are you using?
[19:24] <hosein> hi I can't upgrade my packages
[19:24] <hosein> https://paste.unixcorn.org/?66754e152ffcc5d7#imdL7fjS3tcMg9a2nXLjPh0LFbFHblK0oaAxptRVKDE=
[19:25] <hosein> What should I do?
[19:25] <nicomachus> hosein: looks like dpkg doesn't like your python3 install. might just remove and reinstall that
[19:26] <wafflejock> hosein, yeah appears this kicks off the chain of errors dpkg-query: package 'ibus' is not installed
[19:27] <marathon> Have you tried the obvious @hosein 'apt upgrade -f' ?
[19:27] <hosein> I have tried "apt reinstall python3" it doesn't work though
[19:27] <wafflejock> not sure if it's a missing dependency or why it wouldn't just get the ibus package along with pyhton3 if it needs it but looks to me like that's where the problems start (using any ppas?)
[19:27] <hosein> marathon, yes
[19:27] <marathon> OK
[19:28] <hosein> wafflejock there's a big chance the problem is due to my ppas but I set them to default and still no change
[19:29] <tomreyn> well removing apt source of ppa's doesn't mean the packages installed form there (which may have introduced these isuses) are gone.
[19:29] <nicomachus> marathon: do you know where Android devices get mounted? It's not under /media like most USB devices
[19:30] <oerheks> hosein, on what ubuntu ?
[19:30] <hosein> tomreyn but removing python3 isn't an option either and reinstalling doesn't make a change
[19:30] <marathon> Right. Before I continue on and repeat myself with things you've already done. Please tell us WHAT you have already done. Thanks.
[19:30] <hosein> oerheks 16.04
[19:31] <ducasse> nicomachus: /run/user/ID/gvfs iirc
[19:31] <marathon> try reading this through as well: https://askubuntu.com/questions/87667/getting-mtp-enabled-devices-to-work-with-ubuntu
[19:32] <hosein> I may have ruined /var/lib/dpkg/triggers/File
[19:32]  * hosein grins
[19:34] <ivan__> LIST
[19:34] <tomreyn> hosein: did you edit it?
[19:34] <ivan__>  /msg alis LIST
[19:34] <tomreyn> ivan__: no warez here, go away
[19:35] <hosein> tomreyn yes I deleted some lines because there were erros
[19:35] <hosein> errors *
[19:35] <ivan__>  /msg alis LIST *linux*
[19:35] <nicomachus> ivan__: stop putting the space before the slash
[19:36] <ivan__> nicomachus: ty, didn't see it
[19:38] <tomreyn> hosein: you may want to reinstall, manually editing dpkg files is rarely a good approach.
[19:38] <tomreyn> hosein: if you prefer to try and fix it (may or may not work), start by posting the output of these commands: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-cache policy; sudo apt-get -f install; lsb_release -ds; cat /proc/version
[19:46] <hosein> tomreyn https://paste.unixcorn.org/?f38c424eb55e04e9#oD9bW4RYEDc+U7UTTZoRzNr+2sZfyHMrNmsHZEOmrQU=
[19:59] <hosein> any ideas ?
[19:59] <hosein> https://paste.unixcorn.org/?f38c424eb55e04e9#oD9bW4RYEDc+U7UTTZoRzNr+2sZfyHMrNmsHZEOmrQU=
[20:01] <qweqweqwe> e
[20:01] <qweqweqwe> hello
[20:01] <qweqweqwe> i'm having troubles opening an AppImage
[20:01] <qweqweqwe> i run chmod a+x but the app won't start
[20:02] <intern> hi @all
[20:03] <intern> i set $PATH variable for a executable but was curious where is this particular $PATH variable resides in ?
[20:04] <Borw3> intern: echo $PATH
[20:04] <intern> I already checked in /etc/profile /etc/environment $HOME/.bashrc
[20:04] <sadtaco> After i disconnect from ssh, when I connect back in how do I attach back to that previous terminal output?
[20:04] <intern> @Borw3 it echoes content of $PATH but where it lies(in which file) ?
[20:06] <Borw3> intern: Don't know :D
[20:07] <Bashing-om> hosein: What do you get with ' sudo apt install --reinstall python3 ' ?
[20:08] <krytarik> !path | intern: See here
[20:08] <hosein> bashing-om, E: Internal Error, No file name for python3:amd64
[20:10] <Bashing-om> hosein: Ouch ! my install " dpkg -l python3 >> ii  python3        3.5.1-3      amd64 " ... What in the world have you got not going on here ?
[20:11] <hosein> iF  python3                 3.5.1-3          amd64            interactive high-level object-oriented language (def
[20:11] <intern> @ubottu it tells what about $PATH and other not where it is stored..
[20:11] <intern> i think..
[20:14] <Bashing-om> hosein: hosein As we have that "iF" let's try : ' sudo dpkg-reconfigure python3 ' .
[20:15] <NginUS> So today my HDMI monitor started turning off after I walk away for awhile, although Power Management has the screen set to never turn off.
[20:15] <blackflow> intern: you're talking to a bot :)   PATH is defined in /etc/environment as it's an environment variable, which can then be modified by various things, like shell rc files
[20:15] <Tzunamii> If I compile a kernel (4.14.x) from kernel.org, do I need any Ubuntu-specific patches?
[20:16] <hosein> bashing-om /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: python3 is broken or not fully installed
[20:16] <akik> intern: the default path comes from /etc/environment and also from /etc/profile.d for snaps. you can then add to them from your own user scripts
[20:17] <oerheks> Tzunamii, yes, you will find them here, also the compiled version, http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v4.14/
[20:17] <Tzunamii> Thank you
[20:17] <Bashing-om> hosein: Apt could tell us something we do not already know :( ... maybe see what apt tells us : ' sudo apt install python3 ' .
[20:19] <akik> internalkernel: also $HOME/.profile
[20:19] <akik> oh he left. sorry internalkernel
[20:19] <hosein> https://paste.unixcorn.org/?541c30ab96699695#KaaR4GSK6/P10YQK03IWX6NaHQ6/oQ3UGpEOEEFBpjs=
[20:21] <oerheks> python3 is already the newest version (3.5.1-3).
[20:21] <oerheks> looks like you fixed it already
[20:24] <hosein> oerheks the problem is not version of my python
[20:24] <hosein> it's my inability to install packages
[20:24] <ph88> Hey guys, i need some help with my audio. Ever since i set my audio to HDMI yesterday (when my laptop was connected to a tv) and unplug it in that mode .. audio works only half of the time. Works: error sound in editor, speaker test, playing mp3, youtube in chromium. Doesn't work: youtube in firefox, adjustment sound when i move audio slider. What could i do to fix this?
[20:29] <NginUS> ph88: 'pulseaudio -k'
[20:29] <NginUS> ??
[20:31] <Bashing-om> hosein: oerheks " Package python3 is not configured yet. "  Try again maybe ' sudo dpkg-reconfigure python3 ' .
[20:34] <hosein> bashing-om /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: python3 is broken or not fully installed
[20:34] <kostkon_> ph88, did you delete your ~/.config/pulse folder to reset your pulseaudio configuration?
[20:35] <Bashing-om> hosein: Yukkie .. ok try ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt full-upgrade ; sudo apt -f install ' .
[20:36] <ioria> hosein, maybe if you revert any config files you edit , might work again
[20:36] <ph88> NginUS, no effect    pulseaudio -k
[20:36] <ioria> *ed
[20:37] <ph88> kostkon, no not yet, i can try it
[20:37] <hosein> ioria I tried but it didn't change anything
[20:37] <ph88> brb reboot
[20:37] <ioria> hosein, what you did exactly ? what files ?
[20:37] <NginUS> ph88: I usually have to close/re-open whatever apop I expect to use the sound device after I run that command, in case that helps
[20:37] <hosein> bashing-om https://paste.unixcorn.org/?2733bf235ca93862#IAfTu+6IsNfoog7p7lAY8WsOIbntnkrDfMsDuqmNEik=
[20:37] <hosein> ioria /var/lib/dpkg/triggers/File
[20:38] <ioria> hosein, why ?
[20:38] <hosein> ioria there was an error, I tried to fix it by removing some lines
[20:38] <ioria> no sense
[20:39] <hosein> now I realize Linus had a point when he said fuck Nvidia
[20:39] <hosein> I blame Nvidia's ppas for what has happened
[20:39] <ph88> kostkon, that fixed it :) thank you
[20:39] <kostkon> ph88, np
[20:41] <hektabyte> Hey guys, I recentlly got a popup with a message from my ISP - it was a window the "network sharing" icon.
[20:42] <tomreyn> hektabyte: unless it was a web browser window, or you installed software provided by your isp, that' s unlikey
[20:42] <tomreyn> *unlikely
[20:43] <hektabyte> It was a generic web browser window.
[20:43] <tomreyn> hektabyte: so what's your question?
[20:43] <hektabyte> How do I uninstall it?
[20:44] <tomreyn> how to uninstall your web browser?
[20:44] <hektabyte> What's the name of the package of that generic browser?
[20:44] <nicomachus> there is no "generic browser"
[20:44] <Bashing-om> hosein: What is up that the system thinks it needs " ibus-table " package ? see: ' apt show ibus-table ' . I do not have a clue presently where all this is going to lead to .
[20:44] <hektabyte> Dude...
[20:44] <nicomachus> if it's running you can check `htop`
[20:44] <kostkon> hektabyte, consider using a vpn then if your isp is injecting ads and stuff into your internet traffic
[20:45] <hektabyte> I'll make a screenshot next time.
[20:45] <Cheez> sure your isp isnt injecting code into your browsing?
[20:45] <hektabyte> It may be possible.
[20:45] <Cheez> probably just a standard web popup they injected. verizon do it a lot
[20:45] <tomreyn> hektabyte: just switching to alternative nameservers may be sufficient.
[20:45] <hektabyte> Ah!
[20:45] <Cheez> (Use SSL on your sites, folks)
[20:46] <Cheez> well, tls, but you know what i mean :p
[20:46] <hektabyte> I'll change them to 8.8.8.8 immediately, thanks!
[20:46] <tomreyn> or 9.9.9.10
[20:47] <hosein> bashing-om N: Unable to locate package ibus-tabl
[20:47] <hosein> bashing-om E: No packages found
[20:47] <hektabyte> Sneaky a-holes, they could have done all kinds of shady stuff.
[20:48] <Bashing-om> hosein: Ya got a typo . " sysop@x1604:~$ apt list ibus-table >> ibus-table/xenial,xenial 1.9.1-3ubuntu2 all " .
[20:49] <hektabyte> Brb, I'll reinstall the OS.
[20:49] <phillijw> Can anyone help me get this dockerfile script to work properly? Old script was using old ubuntu, new script should use new. It doesn't work though: https://github.com/phillijw/ynab
[20:51] <hosein> bashing-om ibus-table/xenial,xenial 1.9.1-3ubuntu2 all
[20:52] <hosein> bashing-om https://paste.unixcorn.org/?b85d007ac2eb0995#xTACHZjJvxQKRAy30N9EA9UGINWjBbThXO9eBKC30RE=
[20:57] <Bashing-om> hosein: The qustion is though .. why do you have ibus-table installed ?
[20:57] <hosein> bashing-om I don't know
[20:58] <aleksey> Доброго времени суток всем
[20:58] <tomreyn> !ru | aleksey
[20:58] <Bashing-om> hosein: In the case of " I don't know " .. and the package is "optional" I advocate to purge it and see what the package manager then does .
[20:58] <geirha> phillijw: what happens?
[21:00] <hosein> bashing-om dpkg: warning: ignoring request to remove ibus-table which isn't installed
[21:00] <hosein>  :|
[21:01] <phillijw> geirha: Unable to locate package wine-mono4.5.6
[21:01] <geirha> phillijw: aha, then that ppa probably doesn't have that package for xenial
[21:02] <oerheks> hosein, your python issue is rare, have you tried to reinstall ubuntu-desktop completely?
[21:02] <Bashing-om> hosein: Huh ??..lemme back up and regroup .
[21:02] <phillijw> geirha: Do you know what I should do about it?
[21:04] <geirha> phillijw: Looking at  https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-wine/+archive/ubuntu/ppa?field.series_filter=xenial   there's no wine-mono package built for xenial at all
[21:04] <multifractal> What's the best way to make a bootable win10 usb from the .iso file on ubuntu?
[21:04] <hosein> oerheks Nope should I?
[21:04] <tomreyn> phillijw: if the idea is to install it from that ppa then it looks like you don't "apt(-get) update" (but you need to)
[21:04] <geirha> phillijw: that could mean that whatever it contained is just now part of the wine1.8 and wine2.0 packages there
[21:06] <phillijw> so I would modify this line by removing that package? RUN apt-get update; apt-get install -y wine1.8 winetricks wine-mono4.5.6 wine-gecko2.34
[21:06] <tomreyn> phillijw: in fact you should probably use add-apt-repository instead of writing to the sources.list file and importing the signing key manually
[21:06] <geirha> phillijw: Also, the text at the top that says "PLEASE NOTE THAT THIS REPOSITORY IS DEPRECATED" suggests that the PPA may be deprecated
[21:06] <oerheks> hosein, i would, as last resort
[21:06] <phillijw> tomreyn: fyi I didn't write this script. I am just modifying it from https://github.com/shofetim/ynab
[21:07] <phillijw> the original script was using 15.04 which is no longer supported adn the packages are gone, etc...
[21:08] <tomreyn> phillijw: well i don't care much, but i agree the message on top of https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-wine/+archive/ubuntu/ppa does not look like you should be using it
[21:10] <kostkon> phillijw, PPA is deprecated because they now have their own repo https://wiki.winehq.org/Ubuntu
[21:12] <phillijw> ok so I can replace the "echo ppa bla bla" stuff with "apt-add-repository bl ablabla"
[21:13] <geirha> and the new key and package names
[21:14] <phillijw> do you know how I can go about figuring out the new package names if some got rolled together,etc?
[21:15] <geirha> phillijw: just try with winehq-stable, like that page suggests. If anything's missing, ask #winehq
[21:16] <geirha> phillijw: that means, remove the install of wine-mono, wine-gecko etc
[21:16] <phillijw> yep thanks
[21:19] <untakenstupidnic> would someone hand me the https://sourceforge.net/projects/bodhilinux/files/4.4.0/bodhi-4.4.0-apppack-64.iso.torrent/download  torrent file?
[21:20] <phillijw> that seems like a really strange question for an ubuntu channel :)
[21:20] <kostkon> untakenstupidnic, go on. because?
[21:22] <phillijw> gotta run. I'll be back later if I am still stuck
[21:22] <untakenstupidnic> kostkon:i am both unable to download it (sanctions) and unable to setup tor(no access to any repository,and other problems about tor)
[21:22] <oerheks> more a question for #bodhi or #bodhilinux ? i see you are not even in there
[21:23] <untakenstupidnic> oh ,those channels exist! thanks,i was searching for them.
[21:26] <untakenstupidnic> oerheks: those channels are not used anymore.
[21:26] <oerheks> sure they are, 11 people in it..
[21:27] <untakenstupidnic> -_-
[21:27] <new2ubuntu> Hello all!
[21:28] <new2ubuntu> I installed VMware 14 under Ubuntu 17.10.1 (with proposed-updates installed) and every time I try to create a Virtual Machine in VMware Workstation Linux it crashes VMware, any ideas or anyone seen this problem?
[21:29] <oerheks> untakenstupidnic, you have chosen torrent, why not the regular iso ? http://www.bodhilinux.com/download/
[21:30] <untakenstupidnic> oerheks: see,the problem is not with torrent, problem is with SF. i just want the kb-sized TORRENT file.
[21:31] <untakenstupidnic> SF would not let me download that LINK TO THE IMAGE.
[21:32] <oerheks> there is a button' Problems Downloading' with alternate adresses?
[21:33] <kostkon> untakenstupidnic, if someone is willing to upload it for you on a server that you can access. doubtful though
[21:33] <new2ubuntu> Anyone read what I asked about VMware under Ubuntu?
[21:33] <sammecs> Hi! Do you guys know how to force the Ubuntu installer to install Ubuntu in legacy mode on a Macbook? I have serious problems there...
[21:34] <new2ubuntu> What kind of MacBook?
[21:35] <untakenstupidnic> dear ubuntu people, could not anyone just download a few bytes of file and upload that on a random upload website on the first page of google?
[21:36] <untakenstupidnic> i swear that wouldnt take even two minutes!
[21:36] <untakenstupidnic> i just want to download the LINK!
[21:37] <sammecs> Good question. I’m booting it from internet recovery mode right now, but I guess 2012. MBP. More info when I have some basic OS.
[21:37] <akik> untakenstupidnic: i can do it for you
[21:38] <untakenstupidnic> akik: <untakenstupidnic> would someone hand me the https://sourceforge.net/projects/bodhilinux/files/4.4.0/bodhi-4.4.0-apppack-64.iso.torrent/download  torrent file?
[21:38] <untakenstupidnic> thanks
[21:39] <akik> untakenstupidnic: i copied it to here https://transfer.sh/z2SnP/bodhi-4.4.0-apppack-64.iso.torrent
[21:40] <akik> untakenstupidnic: of course it would be nicer to get the ubuntu iso :)
[21:43] <untakenstupidnic> akik:thanks again,i am using ubuntu for a couple of years and i think that an E17 lightweight distro would do better on my laptop than Ubuntu or Lubuntu
[21:43] <tomreyn> new2ubuntu: try virtualbox, that's supported here.
[21:51] <new2ubuntu> VirtualBox is now what I am required to use for the contract I am working on, but thank you for the recommendation. I had no idea that only certain products were 'supported here', is this an open forum for any questions relating to Ubuntu? If not, I apologize, but I didn't realize you only will help with certain products?
[21:51] <new2ubuntu> now what=not what
[21:52] <new2ubuntu> is there a list of products that people limit there help to here that I should have looked at tomreyn?
[21:52] <new2ubuntu> is there a link for the list?
[21:55] <oerheks> new2ubuntu, basicly all packages in our repos, we do have a wiki about vmware, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware but with bugs/problems like yours we cannot help you
[21:55] <oerheks> like filing a bugreport, that should go to vmware itself
[21:57] <akik> new2ubuntu: there's a vmware tag at https://askubuntu.com/questions/tagged/vmware
[21:57] <new2ubuntu> a vmware tag?
[21:57] <new2ubuntu> let me look at that
[21:57] <akik> new2ubuntu: well just a label
[21:57] <new2ubuntu> huh?
[21:57] <akik> new2ubuntu: yes?
[21:59] <new2ubuntu> I read that list, there is no question of mine in that list on that page, I am not sure I follow what that is?
[21:59] <new2ubuntu> you are saying you saw my question listed there?
[22:00] <akik> new2ubuntu: no but you can send your question there
[22:00] <new2ubuntu> Oh!
[22:00] <new2ubuntu> how do I do that?
[22:02] <davesev> hi, im trying to get supervisor to run on my ubuntu VPS, but i have the following error :  FATAL     can't find command '/.../python'
[22:02] <akik> new2ubuntu: sign up, you can use the ubuntu one username, then ask a question
[22:04] <akik> new2ubuntu: if you have a ubuntu one username, use launchpad at the askubuntu.com login
[22:06] <davesev> if i replace python with python3 i get error BACKOFF   can't find command '/.../python3
[22:09] <new2ubuntu> ok
[22:09] <new2ubuntu> I am signing up for a username and password
[22:09] <new2ubuntu> thanks
[22:09] <new2ubuntu> is there a VMware forum around here that might be able to help me since VMware is not supported here?
[22:17] <wsl123> hi
[22:18] <wsl123> I'm getting this error on every package install / update:  dpkg: error processing package libmpc3:amd64 (--configure):
[22:18] <tomreyn> !paste | wsl123
[22:18] <wsl123> package is in a very bad inconsistent state; you should reinstall it before attempting configuration
[22:18] <akik> davesev: don't replace python with python3. use the name python3 if you use python3
[22:19] <akik> davesev: the naming is by design
[22:19] <tomreyn> wsl123: try reinstalling it then: sudo apt install --reinstall libmpc3:amd64
[22:19] <untakenstupidnic> new2ubuntu: there is a #vmware channel in freenode and it seems active
[22:19] <tomreyn> wsl123: but run "sudo apt update" beforehand
[22:19] <wsl123> apt -f install
[22:19] <wsl123> tomreyn: tried that, tried dpkg --configure -a
[22:20] <wsl123> done that
[22:20] <wsl123> tried uninstalling the package, reinstalling, apt update, dpkg --configure -a, apt -f install
[22:20] <tomreyn> wsl123: niether of these are  the commands i just suggested, though.
[22:20] <tomreyn> oh, maybe "reinstalling" is
[22:20] <wsl123> no i know but this is what i've tried
[22:20] <wsl123> just so you know
[22:20] <wsl123> to rule it out
[22:20] <tomreyn> okay, you re still explainign the situation, sorry.
[22:21] <davesev> akik: i was trying different things to see if ican get it to work. but yes its for python3
[22:22] <akik> davesev: if you really want to do it, try making an alias? alias python=python3
[22:22] <wsl123> tomreyn: basically it's saying there is a dependency problem; Package libmpc3:amd64 is not configured yet.
[22:22] <wsl123> not sure how to sort it out
[22:22] <tomreyn> wsl123: so try the command i provided. if ti fails, please show the command you ran and the output generated by apt
[22:23] <davesev> akik: im happy to use python3 i just dont understand why it is command not found
[22:25] <wsl123> tomreyn: hmm, seemed to have sorted it by removing the package line from /var/lib/dpkg/status
[22:26] <wsl123> tomreyn: is there a difference between apt install --reinstall then uninstalling / reinstalling? or is it just for convenience
[22:26] <tomreyn> wsl123: are you saying you manyuelly edited /var/lib/dpkg/status, or are you saying that a line was removed off this file as a result of running the commands i provided?
[22:27] <wsl123> tomreyn: i manually remove the libmpc package line from there and now it's sorted itself out and reinstalled fine
[22:27] <wsl123> no errors now
[22:28] <tomreyn> wsl123: okay, that's not how i would have done it, and i'm not sure this is a safe action to take.
[22:28] <wsl123> well it seems to be a generated file so usually shoudn't need to edit
[22:28] <wsl123> but as it's generated it's sorted itself out
[22:29] <wsl123> must have just been a slight glitch / stale info in there
[22:29] <tomreyn> wsl123: the difference between "apt install --reinstall" and "uninstalling / reinstalling" is that the former can also work if the package is in an inconsistent state and cannot be removed properly.
[22:29] <wsl123> ah right
[22:29] <wsl123> well, thanks for the help
[22:31] <DDR> Hello everyone. I'm having some trouble with the baloo indexer, it eats up about 16-20 gb of memory and then dies because my computer is out of memory. Is there any way to limit this? I do like my files indexed, it's really convenient, but the memory requirements are a bit crazy.
[22:33] <Richard_Cavell> Hi everyone. I can't get Steam (as in Valve's Steam) to run on my system. I'm using Ubuntu 16.04 64-bit MATE on an old machine with an integrated GPU. https://ideone.com/VjnxA9
[22:35] <tomreyn> DDR: hmm i had never heard of baloo until i just looked it up based on your report. i'd say if this process consumes more memory than your system has available and is thus opom killed then it's definitely worth a bug report
[22:35] <ikonia> Richard_Cavell: so as the screen says it can't load the appropriate graphics libraries
[22:35] <tomreyn> DDR: *oom killed
[22:35] <untakenstupidnic> DDR: use the locate.updatedb and locate ;D
[22:35] <tomreyn> DDR: is your system fully up to date?
[22:37] <Richard_Cavell> ikonia, So what should I do?
[22:37] <tomreyn> Richard_Cavell: /join #ubuntu-steam
[22:38] <ikonia> Richard_Cavell: you'd need to understand why it can't load those libraries, I suspsect the onboard gpu on an old cpu, just doesn't support the extensions
[22:45] <pommedvs> Richard_Cavell, ldd could help maybe ?
[22:59] <DDR> tomreyn: Thank you.
[22:59] <cakil> hi sir. how to fix "vncserver: The USER environment variable is not set" ubuntu 17.10 ??
[23:00] <DDR> untakenstupidnic: I'm honestly not sure what that means.
[23:00] <ikonia> cakil: set the USER environment variable
[23:01] <cakil> what is the command. to set user enviroment?
[23:02] <ikonia> VARIABLE=
[23:02] <ikonia> cakil: I suspect if setting an environment vairable is beyond your current knowledge you will be setting up a very insecure VNC setup
[23:05] <cakil> I want to use vnc create. set and wear lxde
[23:08] <DDR> I am on an up-to-date 17.10 install right now.
[23:10] <ikonia> 6''
[23:10] <ikonia> oops
[23:29] <ghostnik11> hey i am trying to attach a driver using btattach and it says their is no driver in dev/ttyS1?
[23:43] <DirtyCajun> i am moving about 44TB of data from Server A to Server B. Server A is 12 JBOD drives. Server B is 8 drives in a RAID 6. Using NFS i am maxing out at about 1.1Gbps on a 10Gbps network. At even 50MBps read (lowballing) i should be able to hit about 4Gbps. Does someone know of a better system to transfer than NFS?
[23:44] <JoeLlama> When I log in, ubuntu auto connects to wifi but it keeps asking for the password each time.  I read something about keyring being the issue.  What's the trick to fix?
[23:48] <OhPie> who here uses irc for youbood? - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbJHOnkFimg
[23:48] <OhPie> thundercuntooos
[23:48] <OhPie> <3
[23:48] <chrios> DirtyCajun: ATA over Ethernet
[23:49] <DirtyCajun> never heard of it. Google-fu here we go
[23:50] <DirtyCajun> looks like it requires you to create a new partitioned space
[23:51] <chrios> Are server A and server B both ubuntu?
[23:51] <DirtyCajun> yes
[23:51] <DirtyCajun> identical revision and package level
[23:51] <Borw3> Help, I get  "Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)" whenever trying to install anything via apt-get
[23:52] <chrios> use vblade
[23:52] <chrios> vblade 1 2 eth0 /dev/sda1
[23:52] <chrios> on Server A
[23:53] <DirtyCajun> so unmount them from the OS as regular drives and then vblade them
[23:55] <segersjerry> Borw3, are you currently running synaptic? It takes that and holds on to it until quit.
[23:55] <Borw3> Ooh, nvm, I deleted the lock files :(
[23:56] <Bashing-om> Borw3: Another intance of the package manager active ? what shows ' ps -e | grep apt ' ?
[23:57] <Borw3> Bashing-om: Nevermind, thanks, I deleted the locks and rebooted.
[23:58] <Bashing-om> Borw3: :)
[23:59] <chrios> I think so