[06:08] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[06:11] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: :) .. WB .
[06:12] <lotuspsychje> hey Bashing-om
[06:12] <lotuspsychje> Bashing-om: having a nice weekend?
[06:13] <Bashing-om> Oh the norm .. lotuspsychje - doing support, see what I can learn .
[06:15] <lotuspsychje> great
[06:19] <Bashing-om> Been busier than usual for a Saturday night .
[06:44] <Bashing-om> While quiet I am going to sneak out of here \o .
[06:44] <lotuspsychje> hehe
[06:45] <lotuspsychje> meet you on the other side Bashing-om
[06:45] <Bashing-om> Nighty nite .. see ya lotuspsychje :)
[07:09] <ducasse> good morning, everyone
[07:10] <lotuspsychje> hey ducasse
[07:10] <lotuspsychje> how are you this sunday
[07:15] <ducasse> still waking up :) and you?
[07:24] <lotuspsychje> same here, lazy sunday with coffee
=== EriC^ is now known as EriC^^
[07:56] <EriC^^> morning all
[07:56] <EriC^^> ducasse, lotuspsychje
[07:57] <ducasse> morning EriC^^
[08:00] <EriC^^> how are you today?
[08:00] <ducasse> i'm good, thanks, just having a quiet morning - how are you?
[08:02] <EriC^^> i'm good thanks, same
[08:40] <lotuspsychje> hey EriC^^
[08:45] <EriC^^>  hey lotuspsychje
[09:04] <lotuspsychje> !wayland
[09:04] <ubot5> Wayland is a display server protocol that can be used instead of X. Ubuntu 17.10 onwards use Wayland by default on systems that support it. For more info, see https://wayland.freedesktop.org/
[09:05] <lotuspsychje> !xorg
[09:05] <ubot5> X.Org is an implementation of the X Windows System, and is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart it on an Ubuntu system, type 'sudo service lightdm restart'. To fix screen resolution or other X.Org problems: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution . See also !xorgconf
[10:18] <zomaar> Someone here said that cloning disks with dd is unsupported when you use LVM but I wonder then what the actual way is to clone volumes if you didn't.
[10:56] <BL4DE> since ubuntu replaces ubuntu gnome, will ubuntu eventually offer vanilla gnome session by default? I understand some users may wish a transition from unity with customized shell, but will it ever offer vanilla gnome by default in the future?
[11:01] <lotuspsychje> BL4DE: ubuntu 17.10 will come bit tweaked ubuntu-style
[11:01] <lotuspsychje> and higher
[11:01] <lotuspsychje> 18.04
[11:02] <lotuspsychje> BL4DE: also a new theme for 18.04 is in the make
[11:02] <BL4DE> lotuspsychje: yeah I tested 17.10. I have to install gnome-session and vanilla-gnome-settings. I hope one day that gnome on ubuntu looks like it did on ubuntu gnome. hope for more upstream non tainted de
[11:03] <lotuspsychje> BL4DE: after you install ubuntu-desktop in the future you can tweak the way you want right
[11:03] <lotuspsychje> remove/install what you like
[11:05] <lotuspsychje> BL4DE: ubuntu-gnome 16.04 will result upgrade to the tweaked gnome of 18.04
[11:06] <BL4DE> lotuspsychje: since ubuntu gnome distro/flavor is discontinued I hope that they eventually provide the default gnome session :/
[11:07] <lotuspsychje> BL4DE: you mean like a gnome classic or so?
[11:07] <lotuspsychje> or gnome3 vanilla
[11:08] <lotuspsychje> BL4DE: dont think thats gonna happen, as canonical wants the unity guys have a nice new experience
[11:10] <BL4DE> lotuspsychje: I mean gnome shell vanilla upstream that looks like this. https://i.imgur.com/3VpQdgb.png
[11:11] <lotuspsychje> BL4DE: well yeah 18.04 will have gnome like that, but newly themed/tweaked ubuntu-style
[11:11] <lotuspsychje> BL4DE: you will still have the gnome feeling
[11:18] <BL4DE> lotuspsychje: thanks for the help. You might think I'm crazy but I wish they used upstream configuration, with default adwaita theme
[11:19] <lotuspsychje> BL4DE: adwaita theme might be also available in themes, but perhaps not default
[11:19] <lotuspsychje> BL4DE: adwaita, showing in my gnome-tweak-tool in themes section
[11:21] <BL4DE> lotuspsychje: also if you install gnome-session and gnome-vanilla-settings it seems to also change gdm login screen color back to upstream default gray instead of orange
[11:49] <pauljw> hi everyone
[12:05] <pauljw> morning BluesKaj :)
[12:10] <BluesKaj> ;Morning pauljw
[12:17] <BluesKaj> pauljw:  we're about to get into another cold spell here, not as cold as the prervious one,  but a few degrees below 0F is still too cold for me.
[12:20] <pauljw> :) they're talking about that here, too.  up and down this week then in early Feb a cold snap.
[12:23] <pauljw> my wife and are taking a trip to the Smokies in Tennessee next week right when it may be getting cold and snowy.
[12:31] <BluesKaj> maybe it'll be milder there
[13:28] <lotuspsychje> re
[13:28] <lotuspsychje> hey BluesKaj
[13:29] <BluesKaj> hey lotuspsychje
[13:32] <lotuspsychje> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/01/ubuntu-18-04-new-app-to-do
[13:48] <lotuspsychje> wb EriC^^
[14:24] <lotuspsychje> check your /usr/var crossrat is comming :p
[14:24] <lotuspsychje> https://thehackernews.com/2018/01/crossrat-malware.html
[14:26] <oerheks> .. in /usr/var/ ???
[14:27] <lotuspsychje> lol
[14:27] <lotuspsychje> pretty undetectable haha
[14:27] <oerheks> yes, as there is no /usr/var/ .. great thinking
[14:38] <lotuspsychje> bbl bit tv
[15:55] <oerheks> yay, another happy customer
[21:09] <Bashing-om> oerheks: IRT backnforth .. lshw shows radeon .. what do I fail to understand ?
[21:31] <oerheks> back
[21:31] <oerheks> <backnforth> oerheks, https://hastebin.com/xojosikeka.css