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DirtyCajunsetting it up now00:00
DirtyCajunill dd to test speed00:00
chriosBoth servers need to be on the same layer 2 segment00:00
DirtyCajunyeah they are00:00
chriosokay  cool00:00
chriosI'd be interested to see the speed test results00:00
DirtyCajunthe negative i see is this will be great for the transfer but cannot REPLACE NFS as it looks like its similar to iscsi and cant be presented to multiple hosts simultaniously00:01
chriosyeah, it is only good for this transfer specifically00:01
DirtyCajunwhich is a great starting point hopefully00:01
causativemy system has been hanging with "page allocation faults" since I upgraded from 17.04 to 17.10 - seems that it runs out of memory and immediately spends like 15 minutes generating page allocation faults and being unresponsive00:05
causativeand then it recovers, however dmesg is too short to see the start of the issue, if there was something that started it other than a page allocation fault00:06
DirtyCajunchrios, this is crazy fasst00:06
chriosDirtyCajun: Did you get it set up? What sort of speeds are you seeing??00:06
DirtyCajunso i had an extra empty disk00:06
DirtyCajuni added it and did it the opposite direction so i could differentiate the speed00:07
causativedmesg only tracks around 3000 lines of error, that is only three minutes of errors and the hang lasts 15 minutes00:07
DirtyCajunits still going but a dd of 100 count of 1G files is averaging about 200Mbps00:07
DirtyCajunwhen its done ill paste the final MB/s00:08
causativewhat might be the problem and how can I get longer output from dmesg?00:08
chriosusing NFS you were getting 1.1Gbps tho right?00:08
DirtyCajuni was getting 1.1Gbps TOTAL with 10 concurrent threads going00:09
DirtyCajunso 100Mbps per00:09
chriosoh okay. I wonder how this will handle the concurrent threads00:09
DirtyCajunit uses a LOT more cpu though it seems00:09
DirtyCajun10% vs 100:09
chriosI've never actually set up AoE before, so this is exciting for me00:09
DirtyCajunhahaha00:10
causativehttps://pastebin.com/VzuZkjFP here is what a typical error looks like, there are 4000 lines of this in dmesg but it gets cut off00:14
causativeso really there are probably a lot more lines of it and possibly some initial unknown error starting the hang00:14
causativefrom the trace it looks like kthreadd might be trying and failing to create new threads? for some reason?00:15
causativealso it runs out of swap even though I was looking at the swap graph when the problem initiated and no swap was used at that time00:15
causativeso somehow it chewed through 4 gb of swap00:15
causativethis time the problem occurred when I was running a tensorflow demo that uses a 500x500 array to simulate raindrops splashing in a pool, 500x500 should not be causing out of memory, but it's not a tensorflow problem00:18
causativebecause it's happened before when I was watching twitch00:18
DirtyCajunchrios00:20
DirtyCajunlooks like regardless of blocksize you get about the same average speed00:20
DirtyCajunoutput:00:20
DirtyCajundd bs=1M count=10000 if=/dev/zero of=/tv1/speedtest2 conv=fdatasync00:20
DirtyCajun10485760000 bytes (10 GB, 9.8 GiB) copied, 304.97 s, 34.4 MB/s00:20
DirtyCajundd if=/dev/zero of=/tv1/speedtest bs=100G count=1 oflag=direct00:20
DirtyCajun12884901888 bytes (13 GB, 12 GiB) copied, 395.193 s, 32.6 MB/s00:20
JoeLlama2nd Try: When I log in, ubuntu auto connects to wifi but it keeps asking for the password each time.  I read something about keyring being the issue.  What's the trick to fix?00:22
Neo4see it http://pix.toile-libre.org/?img=1517099113.png00:31
Neo4do I must be have to turn of swap?00:32
Neo4there empty swap file and therefore mysql is sucking00:32
teward!crosspost | Neo400:37
ubottuNeo4: Please don't ask the same question in multiple Ubuntu channels at the same time. Many helpers are in more than one channel and it's not fair to them or the other people seeking support.00:37
JoeLlama3rd and Last Try (seems like it's simple but perhaps it's a super hard question and no one has the answer): When I log in, ubuntu auto connects to wifi but it keeps asking for the password each time.  I read something about keyring being the issue.  What's the trick to fix?00:51
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hdpbHow do I add "quicklists" to icons in 17.10?00:59
Zaxx81_So not new to Linux, but new to adminstering a linux server. In terms of best practices, which folders should you install packages in for your server? There are two users that perform admin roles for this server.01:02
JoeLlamaOkay well...  Thanks anyways guys :/01:05
stevenmornings, is there somehow a clean way to install mysql5.6 on 16.04?01:10
oerhekssteven, no https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mysql-5.7/ 5.6 is old and vulnerable01:13
stevenI am asking for 5.6 because I need 5.6 :)01:13
stevenI would use 5.7 if it was an option01:14
oerheksnope, not in our repos, maybe you can build it from source, but that would be unsupported01:14
steventhats ok, was just hoping there might be a way, imma have to figure something out then. thanks!01:15
oerheksfor an old source, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mysql-5.6/01:15
GuyLHi! I'm having a problem installing Ubuntu on an UP Board. Whenever I install Ubuntu 14.06 (I believe) from the ISO on my USB, everything works out succesfully. However, when rebooting, I go back to the GRUB as though the install never happened01:15
GuyLJust "trying ubuntu without installing" leaves me in a limbo where nothing even the terminal opens01:15
GuyLAnyone has any idea what I should do?01:16
oerhekstrusty tahr is the old 14.04 ..01:16
GuyLIt's 16.04 apparently01:16
GuyLAnyone?01:17
siva_machina16.04 is the latest lts01:18
cpinedhello, is it possible to use port 443 as an ssh port to access a server from an external pc?  I was able to do this on windows 7 using cygwin, but not on windows 10 or Ubuntu.01:18
GuyL(also, would there be a more appropriate place to ask my question?)01:19
siva_machina18.04 the next lts should be out by the end of April01:19
oerheksGuyL, i find an special wiki for that up board + ubuntu, https://wiki.up-community.org/Ubuntu01:19
oerheksmaybe that would be any help01:20
oerheksthe PPA mentioned covers 14.04 and 16.04 https://launchpad.net/~ubilinux/+archive/ubuntu/up01:21
GuyLHmm, I'll try writing those lines after a new install... Right now I'm checking disc for defects01:21
GuyLtaking a long time01:21
GuyLNo clue what a PPA is01:22
oerheks!ppa01:22
ubottuA Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge01:22
GuyLWould that be necessary01:22
oerheksreading that wiki, it looks like you do01:23
GuyLHere's what I've been following01:23
GuyLThis is in the context of a RealSense Robotic Devkit01:23
GuyLhttps://01.org/developerjourney/recipe/intel-realsense-robotic-development-kit01:23
GuyLI'd like to stick to that, but after step 4 (the install) I reboot and the install is just not there01:24
GuyLI don't want to try anything that wouldn't work with the camera yknow\01:24
oerheksi see they use the same ppa with step 5 ..01:26
oerheksnot sure why it does not boot, your guide says it should01:27
GuyLhmmmmmm01:27
GuyLDisc has no defectw01:27
GuyLIm stressed (I need to finish this today.....)01:27
GuyLdefects*01:28
GuyLand trying those sudo command in the grub or the shell doesn't work01:28
GuyLDo you know what could be happening right now?01:28
GuyL(or other live support places I could go to?)01:28
oerheksGuyL, did you select 'Download updates' as the writer did not select that?01:29
GuyLNo didn't have that option01:29
GuyLI did another install and in that one I might've... but nothing changed01:29
GuyLI basically did everything the writer did, except at some point I got a textbox he didn't01:30
GuyLI'll try the install again so I can tell you what it is..01:30
oerheksoke, that might be the culprit, not sure what else could be responcible01:30
GuyLany way to remove this dumb disconnect message spam01:35
GuyLill link you a picture, is that fine?01:35
GuyLhttps://i.imgur.com/0dmwx4n.jpg01:36
GuyLHere01:36
GuyL(are there more people here to help usually?)01:37
GuyLoerheks?01:39
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GuyLoeeerheeeeks01:41
GuyLwhy is this empty :(01:44
bobsmith83Question:  I have a syslog growing quickly out of control and filling my SSD.  I'm looking at this page for help at the moment:  https://askubuntu.com/questions/184949/how-do-i-limit-the-size-of-my-syslog01:46
Bashing-ombobsmith83: What one does is "look" at the log and see what is the cause of the spam  and correct the issue .01:48
bobsmith83Can someone help me review my  /etc/logrotate.d/rsyslog and see if its set up right? I'd like to set a size limit first, then proceed to testing and see if i can find out whats filling it so quick01:48
bobsmith83oh, so helpful bashing! ty so much indeed!01:49
bobsmith83how would an idiot like me actually LOOK at a ZLOG?01:49
bobsmith83plz enlighten me01:49
Bashing-ombobsmith83: Pastebin the peace of the syslog that is repeating so, see what we can read into it .01:51
bobsmith83lets say my syslog is 100GB, how can I open it?01:53
Bashing-ombobsmith83: Try ' less /var/log/syslog ' . See if less can load that large of a file .01:55
GuyLIf oerheks comes back: looks as though my problem's fixed for now. Thanks anyways :)01:55
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bobsmith83will the less app read .gz? looks like the system is purging older syslogs as it should per /etc/logrotate.d/rsyslog...02:01
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daxbobsmith83: no, but zless will02:02
bobsmith83thx dax...  looking at it now...02:04
bobsmith83gstsystemclock: write control failed in wakeup_async, trying again: 11:Resource temporarily unavailable02:08
bobsmith83seems to be the repeating theme...02:09
bobsmith83and :  gst_poll_write_control: assertion 'set != NULL' failed02:09
Bashing-ombobsmith83: New one on me .. no idea off the top of my head.. Others heer will advise better .02:14
bobsmith83i suspect tux paint kids program might be cause, that's what we were using last...02:16
bobsmith83might need to test again.02:16
bobsmith83I'd still like to set a size limit in my /etc/logrotate.d/rsyslog  How do i do that?02:17
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tomreynbobsmith83: maxsize, see the 'logrotate' man page for further details.02:21
phillijwis there a way I can avoid using add-apt-repository? It seems kind of silly that it has two dependencies02:21
ignatius_Just did an upgrade from 16.04 to 17.10, whatever the session manager is called works, but when I log in, black screen then back to login window... should I run a config tool or something?02:21
tomreynbobsmith83: this will not solve the issue of many writes to the syslog, though02:22
tomreyn(nor the root cause, of course)02:22
dongcarlI'm wondering where I can find clang-cpp on Ubuntu? I installed clang and only got clang and clang++02:22
bobsmith83understood.  but it will solve the symptom of my SSD filling up02:23
bobsmith83i dont know why the maxsize isnt set by default already02:23
tomreynbecause you loose possibly relevant history, i would think02:23
bobsmith83what shall i set it too? and do i just add a line into /etc/logrotate.d/rsyslog and save it?02:24
tomreyncompressed logs are going to be small either way02:24
tomreynset it to what you consider to be suitable, and after saving the file, restart rsyslogd02:24
Bashing-omignatius_: Sounds like the proprietary graphic's driver broke in the upgrade process. Is this nvidia for the GPU ?02:25
GuyLoerheks02:25
GuyLnvm, thought I was typing in ctrl+f, sorry02:25
bobsmith83how do i restart rsyslog?02:25
ignatius_Bashing-om: yep nvidia card...\02:26
tomreynbobsmith83: sudo service rsyslog restart02:26
bobsmith83thx02:26
tomreynbobsmith83: which ubuntu release is this? lsb_release -sd02:26
Bashing-omignatius_: K; at the login screen - key combo ctl+alt+F2 to gain a console interface, can you log into the system here ?02:27
bobsmith83latest LTS02:28
bobsmith8316.04 i thinks02:28
ignatius_Bashing-om: yep.02:28
tomreynbobsmith83: if you'll run the command i provided you'll know for sure.02:28
bobsmith83Ubuntu 16.04.3 LTS02:29
tomreynbobsmith83: which web browser do you use?02:29
bobsmith83firefox02:29
ignatius_Bashing-om: Do I want nvidia-384?02:29
tomreynbobsmith83: hmm okay then i don't know. searching for your error messages i only came across this https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/gstreamer-bugs/2016-February/168455.html02:30
tomreynbobsmith83: gst (as in 'gstsystemclock' and 'gst_poll_write_control') stands for "gstreamer", which is the gtk (gnome graphical toolkit) way of handling a/V media02:31
tomreynbobsmith83: actually it's not GTK related, i was wrong02:32
tomreynbobsmith83: it's still a multi media library, though, used by chrommium (chrome), several audio and video players, and other applications which handle audio and video. i'm not sure about firefox.02:33
tomreynbobsmith83: still, it's very unusual that these messages would end up on your syslog.02:33
bobsmith83agreed02:34
Bashing-omignatius_: Well, if ya willing to take a stab in the dark that it is the graphic's driver; - *secure boot* disabled and run ' sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf ; sudo pirge nvidia* ; sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall ; reboot to see the effect .02:34
ignatius_Nice. Thanks.02:35
tomreynbobsmith83: are you using any PPAs?02:35
bobsmith83PPA?02:36
Bashing-omignatius_: ** sudo purge nvidia* - typo ^02:36
tomreyn!ppa | bobsmith8302:36
ubottubobsmith83: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge02:36
tomreynbobsmith83: ...or non-packaged software?02:36
bobsmith83I've installed some apps from software center, and some thru apt-get...02:37
bobsmith83I added the graphics driver from "additional drivers" but reverted back to the free driver...02:38
Deihmos4k monitors on ubuntu is kind of bad02:38
phillijw1080p monitors on ubuntu is kind of bad02:39
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snufftHi everyone :) I've got a 16.04 install which has developed what looks like a graphics problem. I can boot to02:44
Bashing-omDeihmos: Maybe of some help: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/HiDPI .02:44
snufftThe login screen and can successfully log in, but the desktop never shows and is just covered in artifacts instead. At the same time, error reports start popping up in the to left, once after the other, quicker than I can click on them to to anything.02:45
DeihmosThe unity desktop not included02:45
snufftI've tried booting previous kernels, but the result is the same, regardless02:46
tomreynbobsmith83: okay, this sounds entirely standard. something must be non-standard since there are so little search results for the error messages you provided.02:46
DeihmosThe scaling is either 100 200 30002:46
DeihmosNo option to custom scale02:46
snufftIf anyone would be willing to hold my hand for a bit, that would be awesome because I have nfi where to even start with this one, haha02:46
Bashing-omsnufft: At the login screen, Key combo ctl+alt+F2 to gain a comsole interface, can you log into the system here ?02:46
bobsmith83yup.02:48
bobsmith83its alittle unusual hardware, i guess.  lenovo ideacenter a730 all-in-one touchscreen...02:48
snufftBashing-om yes, I'm logged in there now :)02:48
bobsmith83its dual booted with windows 702:49
Bashing-omsnufft: Run ' sudo lshw -C display | nc termbin.com 9999 ' the result is a URL back in terminal, pass that link back here and we see what we have to work with .02:51
tomreynbobsmith83: hmm no i don't thinkt he hardware explains it. but i guess without further information it will not be possible to look into this more.02:52
snufftBashing-om http://termbin.com/g51g02:52
bobsmith83i will try to repeat the problem and report back later.  any other suggested troubleshooting steps?02:53
tomreynbobsmith83: try to find the first occurrence of the messages you quoted on your syslog and check the surrounding messages, since it might help identify the root cause.02:54
tomreynbobsmith83: i will be gone later, but when you get to talk to someone else, be sure to put their nickname in front of what you type here, so they'll know you addressed them.02:55
bobsmith83tomreyn: thank you for your help02:55
tomreynbobsmith83: i just read that the 'pidgin' software might also be emitting those messages.02:56
tomreynwelcome02:56
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Bashing-omsnufft: Well, AMD graphics, and the correct driver is loaded . I do not know much else that I can do , If ya boot into the guest account is the GUI functional there ? Maybe this is a user session config issue ?02:58
snufftBashing-om I just had a go at the guest session and it starts out the same, but then ends in a blue screen with no errors, but no desktop 😂03:01
bobsmith83i never use an IM such as pidgin, but something else might be calling it i guess03:01
snufftBashing-om those popup error messages, do they normally print to a log file somewhere?03:04
Bashing-omsnufft: error reporting . in your home directory is the log file " .xsession-errors " also might see that the journal has . And maybe we can install the amdgou driver ?? what shows : lspci -k | grep -EA2 'VGA|3D' ?03:08
Bashing-omamdgpu* driver .03:09
snufftBashing-om .xsession-errors is empty :( lspci output is:  01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Tahiti XT Radeon HD 7970/8970 OEM / R9 280X  Subsystem: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd Tahiti XT Radeon HD 7970/8970 OEM / R9 280X] kernel driver in use: radeon03:15
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snufftBashing-om maybe the card is on the way out?03:21
Bashing-omsnufft: Here we need someone with AMD experience - Natbe ine can run amdpro with that card ?? : https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amdgpu-rad-49&num=1 . I do not know the differene to Tahiti-pro driver .03:28
Bashing-omMaybe one can run amdgpu driver **03:29
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snufftBashing-om article looks promising. I'll give it a shot. Thanks for all of your help :)03:45
snufftBashing-om++03:45
Bashing-omsnufft: Proceed with caution, as I am not convinced the amdgpu driver will work .03:47
Shelby_So upgrded from 16.04 and  get into gdm3 fine but  don't have the gear by the password box and when  login it just goes black then back to gdm?04:01
snufftBashing-om no worries, will do :) Thanks again for your help :)04:10
phillijwcan anyone help me get this script working? I am failing horribly: https://github.com/phillijw/ynab/blob/master/Dockerfile04:18
Bashing-omsnufft: Too : see: https://wiki.debian.org/AtiHowTo the firmware section . make sure the firmware is installed .04:19
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psyrushas anyone had any luck installing GNOME gui in kubuntu using synaptic package manager?04:21
ZythyrNeed help. I am running a Ubuntu live USB. How do I check if its running in UEFI mode or BIOS legacy mode?04:55
Zythyrnvm ignore the question, i found soluiton https://askubuntu.com/questions/162564/how-can-i-tell-if-my-system-was-booted-as-efi-uefi-or-bios04:58
ZythyrNeed help. I created a live USB for Ubuntu 16 Desktop. When I connect to my Dell Latitude 2120, it just boots to a black screen with a blinking cursor. Why is it doing that? I think this ssytem supports UEFI mode because when I go to BIOS, I see the mouse curor which I think is an indicatoion of UEFI support05:00
phillijwwhat the heck is this command doing and why doesnt it work in 16.04? localedef -v -c -i en_US -f UTF-8 en_US.UTF-8 || :05:01
phillijwit gives me this: character map file `UTF-8' not found: No such file or directory05:02
MenzadorDesktop or server?05:03
Menzadorphillijw - ^ ?05:03
phillijwits a docker container so just a slimmed down base version? So maybe neither?05:04
tanukiI'm having an issue with Server 17.10. now that it's installed, I get a character typed on the console every second or so, even with no keyboard attached.05:04
MenzadorBest thing to do is uncomment the en_US.UTF-8 line in /etc/locale.gen (with sudo) and then run [ sudo locale-gen ]05:05
tanukiIt doesn't appear to happen in other OSes05:05
Menzadortanuki - What character?05:05
tanukiIt shows up as ^@05:06
phillijwMenzador: since this is docker, is there a way to do that via a command?05:09
phillijwno interaction05:09
Bashing-om!nomodeset | Zythyr05:15
ubottuZythyr: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter05:15
Menzadorphillijw - You can't run nano?05:15
phillijwMenzador: are you familiar with docker? It's an automated script that sets up the machine with no user interaction05:16
MenzadorOh OK, you're using a script05:16
tanukiAny idea what could be causing this?05:16
phillijwMenzador: here's the script if you're interested https://github.com/phillijw/ynab/blob/master/Dockerfile05:16
ZythyrBashing-om ubottu I am not even getting to an option where I can type "nomodeset" kernal parameter. When PC boots, I see the Dell logo, then it boots from USB, but directly I see a black screen with blinking curor. I never saw the Ubuntu menu05:17
ZythyrI used Rufus to make the USB05:17
Bashing-omZythyr: At the purple splash screen (stick figure keyboard emblems at bottom of screen) -> hit any key ->05:21
Bashing-omLanguage screen -> escape key to accept the default ->05:21
Bashing-omBooting options screen -> F6 key05:22
Menzadorphillijw - it seems to spit out a tonne of errors.05:22
ZythyrBashing-om Thats the problem, I never even get to the purple screen05:22
Bashing-omZythyr: Ouch .. did you verfy the .iso download ? http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows .05:24
GudduUbuntu live CD is not working. Freezes on the Ubuntu logo. What could be wrong?05:29
GudduSomething to do with some BIOS option?05:29
GudduI created the USB in Rufus using GPT option05:30
ZythyrBashing-om Yes, the ISO is fine I have used the same ISO on multiple other PCs05:32
Bashing-omZythyr: EFI machine, try as soon as the bios screen clears spamming the escape key .05:40
ZythyrBashing-om ubottu I managed to boot to purple screen on but only way I was able to get there is if I create the live USB using "MBR partition scheme for BIOS or UEFI" when I use Rufus. I don't get to the purple screen if I use GPT partition05:42
HeeHaw5130I need help with a USB optical mouse not working. Any takers?05:43
tanukiGoddammit. Reinstalled and the same happened.05:44
tanukiI get a "^@" every second or so getting typed.05:44
ubuntu-mateWasup?05:45
HeeHaw5130Optical mouse is a RadioShack brand (actual manufacturer: PixArt). Judging by dmesg, the kernel actually picks it up. However, the mouse still won't work.05:46
ubuntu-mateWheres the channel to just talk at random?05:46
GudduUbuntu live USB is not working. Freezes on the Ubuntu logo after i select the try withou installling option. What could be wrong?05:48
GudduSomething to do with some BIOS option?05:49
ZythyrBashing-om Using the ESC key didn't help.05:49
ubuntu-mateGuddu, what are the specs of your PC?05:49
ZythyrBashing-om Its funny that BIOS has a "Enable legacy USB emulation" option. Is it safe to assume that this mean my BIOS supports UEFI?05:50
HeeHaw5130......Woof?05:50
ubuntu-mateGuddu, what are your Specs on the PC?05:51
Gudduubuntu-mate, Its a ASUS ROG GL552VW laptop05:51
Gudduhttps://www.asus.com/ROG-Republic-Of-Gamers/ROG-GL552VW/05:51
ubuntu-mateRam and CPU please, also any GPU05:51
ubuntu-mateopening now05:52
Gudduubuntu-mate, 16GB RAM05:52
ubuntu-matethats alot of ram, is the CPU i386 or 64bit?05:53
ubuntu-mate(link not wanting to open)05:53
Gudduubuntu-mate, 64Bit05:54
ubuntu-mateAlright, what type of CPU? like, whats the name of it?05:55
Gudduubuntu-mate, Intel® Core™ i7 6700HQ Processor,05:56
Gudduubuntu-mate, NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 960M05:56
ubuntu-mate...thats not bad.. the onlything i THINK may be an issue is the GPU but that shouldnt be a problem...05:56
ubuntu-matetry CTRL+ALT+F1 and try that05:57
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Bashing-omZythyr: I too would assume that efi booting would be available .05:58
Gudduubuntu-mate, CTRL-ALT-F1 where? On the frozen screen?06:00
ZythyrBashing-om I jsut got off the phone with Dell. Appranelty they are saying that it doesn't support UEFI mode. Thats weird because the BIOS has a mouse curous for me to navigate with. I recall someone telling me in the past that if BIOS has a mouse cursor, then it supports UEFI mode06:04
Random832Zythyr, it doesn't really seem like those two things would be connected other than in a very general 'progression of more advanced bios features' way06:05
Bashing-omZythyr: Have not heard that .. But lots I have not heard ,06:06
ZythyrAssuming my system doesn't support UEFI booting, is there any drawback of running a Ubuntu Server is legacy mode?06:07
Bashing-omZythyr: Just that efi supports a larger block size and is a tad faster in file exercises .06:09
Zythyrlarger block size? What does this mean/06:13
ZythyrAlso, when I install Ubuntu, will I be able to use GPT partition scheme?06:14
Ben64yes06:15
GudduCould someone please help?06:15
GudduUbuntu live USB is not working. Freezes on the Ubuntu logo after i select the try withou installling option. What could be wrong?06:17
GudduSomething to do with some BIOS option?06:17
Bashing-omZythyr: 4096 as the sector size as opposed to 512 .06:18
Zythyrahh ok06:24
bruce_athere06:24
Zythyrthanks06:24
bruce_aanybody here ??06:25
ExploitedKernelHi06:26
mike7#!/usr/bin/python06:36
mike7a = raw_input("type a number:")06:36
mike7a = a + 106:36
mike7print (a)06:36
mike7what is wrong?06:36
mike7File "./prueba.py", line 3, in <module>06:37
mike7    a = a + 106:37
mike7TypeError: cannot concatenate 'str' and 'int' objects06:37
Guddumike7, raw_input converts the input to string. And you cannnot concatenate str and int06:46
tanukiTL;DR: wrap the raw_input() call in int().06:47
tanukiOr float() if you need one.06:48
mike7Guddu: thanks a lot06:54
mike7i changed to input( ) and it works good06:54
mike7i wanna work only in python3 and forget python206:54
mike7im in linux06:54
mike7how can i change it?06:54
mike7i tryied apt-get install python3 and apt-get remove python2, but it doesnt work06:54
mike7tanuki: thanks06:55
causativewith the new launcher in 17.10 at the left (what is the name for it btw?) is there any way I can configure it so if I have multiple of an app open, and I click on the icon in the launcher, it automatically switches to the most recently open window of that app, instead of making me click a second time to select it?06:59
causativealso I find that alt-tab brings all windows of a given application to the front, and I'd prefer if it only brought forward the most recent window07:00
mike7im learning python, do i should learn first shell scripting?07:01
hggdhmike7: python3 is installed by default on newer Ubuntus. /usr/bin/python is python V2.7, /usr/bin/python3 is what it says07:01
mike7hggdh: so i should change the shebang?07:01
mike7to python307:02
hggdhmike7: if you want python3, yes.07:02
hggdhmike7: also: you do not *need* to learn shell (scripting) but if you are working on Linux/UNIX, it will help a lot.07:03
* hggdh goes to bed07:04
mike7hggdh: thanks07:04
mike7i already changed to python3 in my shebang , but my script started to have problems07:05
mike7Traceback (most recent call last):07:05
mike7  File "./prueba.py", line 3, in <module>07:05
mike7    a = a + 107:05
mike7TypeError: must be str, not int07:05
senapsi have zsh, in all desktops that i have, if i cd into a folder, open open a file name, and insert it's name misspelled, or the actual file has Capital words in it and i enter lower-case it fixes my input. i don't have it in my newly installed zsh. how would i enable it? i didn't find anything in .zhrc file!07:05
mike7and when i put without 3 in shebang, it works good07:05
mike7#!/usr/bin/python307:07
mike7a = input("type a number:")07:07
mike7a = a + 107:07
mike7print (a)07:07
ZythyrQuestion: I am installing Ubuntu on a system that does NOT support UEFI. However, the HDD will have GPT partition scheme. In the future, I plan on transfering the HDD to another system that will support UEFI mode. What will I need to do to take advtange of UEFI when I move the HDD to new system?07:09
mike7maybe is not neccesary shell scripting, i can jump it, and going to python quickly, but if im learning i think it will teach me the base to understand linux and python, right? i mean when you learn language it helps to another, right?07:13
lotuspsychje!uefi | Zythyr07:13
ubottuZythyr: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI07:13
mike7i mean its not about programming, but it will helps to understand linux07:13
mike7is it good idea ? to start first with shell scripting07:14
ducasseZythyr: you will need an efi partition, and you will need to switch to the right grub when on the new machine07:14
Zythyrducasse So will it be as simple as formatting the BIOS parition and installing GRUB on it leaving the system and data partition untouched?07:18
ducasseZythyr: the efi partition needs to be bigger than a bios partition07:19
ZythyrAhh I found this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI07:20
Zythyrducasse Can I make my BIOS partition ~600MB even though it dones't need to be that big expecting that in the future I will switch to UEFI?07:21
ducasseZythyr: sure07:22
ducasseZythyr: but 600m is overkill, 100 is plenty07:23
JoeLlamaIs it possible to do an "in-place" upgrade of ubuntu without having to backup and reinstall data?07:24
lotuspsychjeJoeLlama: upgrades always preserve your /home07:24
JoeLlamathanks :)07:24
lotuspsychjeJoeLlama: but wisely, the users should make backups externally at all times07:24
JoeLlamaso do not select erase option..07:25
JoeLlamayes backups are good07:25
cfhowlettJoeLlama, of course ... usually followed by "OMG!  I need to restore lost data!"07:25
JoeLlamathe data is not worth anything07:25
JoeLlamajust was curious07:25
cfhowlettahh.  different.  then punch that upgrade!07:25
JoeLlamais that under the "do something else" option?07:25
JoeLlamaI'll figure it out07:26
cfhowlettJoeLlama, "do something else" = manually partitioning07:26
JoeLlamaoh.,..07:26
JoeLlamaso then wait lemme look07:26
JoeLlamawell I don't see upgrade07:26
JoeLlamaI see "erase disk and install ubuntu"07:27
JoeLlamaencrypt new install07:27
cfhowlettJoeLlama, you're in a live boot session?  then you won't see it.  "in-place upgrade" is launched from the current install.07:27
JoeLlamause LVM07:27
JoeLlamaand "something else"07:27
JoeLlamahrm o k well I suppose I'll see it when it pops up07:28
JoeLlamaso what do I select, erase hard drive? or will it say something else since I always have a filesystem in place?07:31
ducasseJoeLlama: you boot your ubuntu install and run the upgrade there07:32
JoeLlamaoh ok then I'll see it07:32
JoeLlamaI really like ubuntu07:32
JoeLlamawindows really sux07:32
anandjojijji07:33
JoeLlamaon these little boxes using an atom 1.6G they will play large videos nicely without added hardware and on another box, same processor and a broadcom crystal video processor it's still a little glitchy07:34
Zythyrducasse This guide is saying to have EFI partition size of 550 MB https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManualFullSystemEncryption/DetailedProcessPartitionFormatEncrypt07:34
JoeLlamacrystalHD07:34
anandhello07:34
anandanybody there07:35
JoeLlamano anand all 1439 other users are not here07:36
ducasseZythyr: that might be, you could need it if you are going to install other operating systems or linux distros in addition to ubuntu. with just ubuntu you won't need that much.07:36
Zythyrducasse Ahh oka07:39
JoeLlamaI applied for a job at Microsoft but they said I wasn't qualified.  I had no ability to write slow and bloated code :(07:39
ZythyrIs the BIOS boot parition FAT32? In this article it says EFI partition is FAT32 but doens't say anything about BIOS boot parition07:39
ducasseZythyr: iirc the bios partition does not need to be formatted at all07:40
lotuspsychje!ask | anand07:42
ubottuanand: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience07:42
Zythyrducasse So its is just empty space?07:43
ducasseZythyr: grub writes to it without requiring a filesystem07:44
anandneed food07:46
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cfhowlettanand, check your channel.  this is ubuntu support.07:47
JoeLlamao k !  I have the ubuntu installation iso file.  How do I install that to USB flash?07:52
lotuspsychje!usb | JoeLlama07:53
ubottuJoeLlama: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent07:53
JoeLlamacool thanks :) well I don't have it on flash drive yet but I look07:53
JoeLlamaoh ok so I don't have to install the iso file I just copy it?  things have gotten too easy for you guys :/07:54
sirru5hHowdy Everyone07:55
Zythyrducasse If only 1MB needed for BIOS boot parition, so basically right now I should create a "EFI" parition of around 500MB and leaving 1MB space before it? And basically this 500MB EFI parititon won't be used at all until when I switch to UEFI mode where I will format the EFI partition and install GRUB?07:55
ducasseZythyr: just create the efi partition right away, and use it as a bios partition until you are ready to move to the new machine07:56
JoeLlamaubottu "operating system not found" so apparently it's not as easy as just copying the file.  I will re-read... any ideas?08:04
ubottuJoeLlama: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)08:04
JoeLlamaoh08:04
JoeLlamacrap08:04
JoeLlamaok ok08:04
JoeLlamaanyone know how to install the ISO file to flash?08:05
sirru5hWhat OS are you using to write the file?08:05
JoeLlamaoh never mind :) found it :) heh08:06
JoeLlamathanks sirru5h though08:06
sirru5hlol okay I didn't no if I should have a Windows or a linux tutorial08:06
sirru5hGood luck08:06
JoeLlamayup thanks just had to actually read something (:\08:07
JoeLlamaok lost again sirru5h08:12
JoeLlamaI guess I need usb creator08:12
JoeLlamasirru5h08:13
ducasseare you doing this on linux or windows?08:13
JoeLlamalinux08:13
JoeLlamaI am reading a tutorial08:13
hosasdoes anyone here knows the equivalent of rwsnoop on linux?08:14
JoeLlamaducasse  :)08:14
ducasseJoeLlama: i would just use dd from a command line, but you can use gnome-disks08:15
EriC^^+1 dd08:16
JoeLlamahrm ok ducasse and how is that done?08:17
JoeLlamalooks like I need Startup Disk Creator ducasse08:17
EriC^^sudo dd if=/path/to/iso of=/dev/sdX bs=4M status=progress && sync   (where /dev/sdX is the device name from 'sudo parted -ls'08:17
JoeLlamahrm... and all I want to do is use the ISO file to create the USB flash it shouldn't be this hard :/08:18
EriC^^it isn't hard08:18
JoeLlamaoh ok EriC^^ :)08:18
EriC^^:)08:18
JoeLlamaum... ok so go to terminal right? here I go :)08:19
EriC^^yup08:19
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JoeLlamaneat08:19
JoeLlamaum... ok I obviously have no clue EriC^^ :(\08:20
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JoeLlamaah well I'll install the iso another way08:21
EriC^^JoeLlama: did you type 'sudo parted -ls' ?08:21
JoeLlamayeah and it said the user name as not in the file thingy08:21
JoeLlamaso like brb08:22
JoeLlamagunna do it another way08:22
EriC^^JoeLlama: huh08:22
EriC^^JoeLlama: you should probably fix this problem first then08:23
JoeLlamayeah08:23
JoeLlamaprobably08:23
JoeLlamalemme just get the ISO into the flash first :)08:23
EriC^^usb creator sucks kind of, it doesn't work a lot of the time08:24
EriC^^ok08:24
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JoeLlamaI just use Rufus :P08:26
JoeLlamayay! :)08:26
EriC^^nice08:29
Zythyrducasse Thanks for the help :)08:33
nirnakernnirnakern08:35
JibblitHey all, hope you are having a good evening.08:36
JibblitCan anyone explain MAAS?08:36
cfhowlett"metal as a service"  google or wikipedia is a better tutor than this support channel08:37
Neo4Jibblit: do you men this https://maas.io/index2?utm_expid=.-9HoJQVJQvy8JWjBxJYSpQ.1&utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com.ua%2F08:37
Neo4Jibblit: it looks like google drive08:38
JibblitIts cloud computing w/ ubuntu yes?08:39
lotuspsychje!maas | Jibblit08:40
ubottuJibblit: Metal as a Service is a dynamic server provisioning service for scalability. See more about it at https://maas.ubuntu.com.08:40
JibblitIt's for if you own physical machines and wanted to manage them, or combine them to run things?08:44
Neo4Jibblit: might be you can put in cloud image of ubuntu and then install that image on any server in internet rapidly08:45
Neo4Jibblit: like cloud docker you put there docker image and then that image available on your VPS, I don't know all details, Main sense easy and fast install from cloud something. ti must be but this is not exactly :)08:49
Neo4Jibblit: watch video description for fast overview https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHfaiKlUYsM08:49
JoeLlamaOK OK ducasse I got the ISO installed to flash but it says it requires a x86-64 CPU but detects an i686 CPU UNABLE TO BOOT08:52
JoeLlamaI must have gotten the wrong kernel ducasse :(08:53
lotuspsychjeJoeLlama: you need the right architecture for your system08:53
JoeLlamaany idea where to get the right one?08:53
JoeLlamawell this has a previous version of ubuntu on it08:53
EriC^^JoeLlama: that means it's a 32bit pc08:53
JoeLlamaand it works great08:53
JoeLlamayeah okay where can I get the 32 bit version?08:53
lotuspsychjeJoeLlama: for wich ubuntu version?08:54
JoeLlamaoh I dunno lemme boot up and check08:54
lotuspsychjeJoeLlama: 17.10 and higher dropped 32bit support08:54
lotuspsychjeJoeLlama: you dont know wich ubuntu iso you downloaded?08:54
cfhowlettJoeLlama, xubuntu or lubuntu are available in 32 bit08:54
JoeLlamaoh thanks cfhowlett08:55
JoeLlamaso like I need to get one of those I guess08:55
JoeLlamahold on booting up08:55
EriC^^or get ubuntu 16.0408:55
JoeLlamaoh ok EriC^^08:55
JoeLlamais that my best bet?08:55
JoeLlamaubuntu 16.04?08:55
EriC^^yeah lts is a good way to go08:55
cfhowlett16.04 is long term support.  IMHO, LTS is the sanest method for 99% of users08:56
JoeLlamaok at terminal what do I type in to find version information?08:56
lotuspsychjeJoeLlama: what kind of system specs do you have?08:56
JoeLlamajoeyy_ it's intel atom08:56
JoeLlamaI have MANY intel atom systems08:56
Neo4JoeLlama: where you want put ubuntu on laptop? if on laptop had better chose ubuntu 16.04 with unity08:56
JoeLlamaok so current version info is not important right?08:57
JoeLlamaand I should get 16.0408:57
lotuspsychjeNeo4: thats not very helpful suggestion, unity works on desktops also08:57
JoeLlamaok I go get 16.0408:58
lotuspsychjeJoeLlama: lsb_release -a08:58
Neo4JoeLlama: see window http://pix.toile-libre.org/?img=1517129895.png08:58
JoeLlamaso get this version? http://releases.ubuntu.com/16.04/08:58
Neo4JoeLlama: on desktop works unitu as well, just windows less take place than gnome08:59
ducasseJoeLlama: get the 'i386' image, not 'amd64'08:59
lotuspsychjeJoeLlama: that depends what you want, cfhowlett also suggested lubuntu or xubuntu08:59
cfhowlettJoeLlama, sounds like you have some "vintage" hardware.  lubuntu and to a slightly less degree xubuntu are optimized for legacy HW09:00
JoeLlamayes old hardware I have LOTS09:00
JoeLlamaokay so like ubuntu-16.04.3-desktop-i386.iso ???09:00
JoeLlamaok no answer so that is what I get :)09:01
lotuspsychjeJoeLlama: if 'you' like yes09:01
binaryhermit32 bit only atoms aren't quite as vintage as it might sound09:01
binaryhermitlike 8 years old IIRC09:01
cfhowlettarguably so, but 32 bit support is phasing out so ...09:02
EriC^^JoeLlama: how much ram do you have?09:02
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binaryhermitit's only the first 2 atoms that came out, though09:03
binaryhermitand it's closer to 9 years than 809:03
JoeLlamalike 1 or 2 gigs EriC^^09:04
* binaryhermit feels old and shuts up because he's a bit offtopic09:04
JoeLlamayes I have atoms I think are 6409:04
JoeLlamaall I know is windows runs like shit on atoms and linux is the bomb09:04
cfhowlettJoeLlama, with such limited ram, you will almost certainly find better performance with lubuntu/xubuntu09:04
JoeLlamaeh09:05
JoeLlamaI can always reinstall :)09:05
cfhowlettJoeLlama, easy enough.  install preferred *buntu, then you can easily install the desktop environment to test your chocies09:05
JoeLlamaokee dokee thanks :)09:06
EriC^^1gb is pretty low for ubuntu, i'd go with xubuntu or lubuntu09:06
EriC^^yeah that's an idea too09:07
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abouttotryoutubuHi! I think that previously there was an option to instal Ubuntu directly from Windows without the need for a USB drive. However, I am not able to find that option now. Is it still available at all?09:36
lotuspsychje!wubi | abouttotryoutubu not reccomended anymore09:36
ubottuabouttotryoutubu not reccomended anymore: Wubi was a way to install Ubuntu from within Windows, but it is no longer supported in recent versions of Ubuntu and Windows, and was never well maintained even for Ubuntu 12.04. Do not use Wubi. See !install for other options for installing Ubuntu.09:36
vegombreiim using lubuntu i cant seem to install chrome browser can someone help me do this09:37
lotuspsychjevegombrei: try chromium-browser its the alternative for chrome09:37
vegombreibasically i cant stream movies from firefox is why im trying chrome if someone could help me fix that im good dont need chrome09:37
abouttotryoutubuThank you, lotuspsychje09:38
abouttotryoutubu!install09:38
ubottuUbuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - Don't want to use a CD? See http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate09:38
lotuspsychjeabouttotryoutubu: best to create an ubuntu usb stick from windows with universal usb installer09:39
abouttotryoutubulotuspsychje: yeah, gotcha. Dang. Just convinced my girl to try out Ubuntu, but we don't have any flashdrives lying around, I guess I'll have to wait to get one first.09:40
lotuspsychjeabouttotryoutubu: smart choice mate, and welcome to the ubuntu community09:41
lotuspsychjeabouttotryoutubu: any usb you could borrow from someone? a cheap 2gig on will do fine09:42
amruthanks09:46
abouttotryoutubulotuspsychje: unfortunately, no. However, my phone is rooted. I just discovered  this -- "There is an Android app called DriveDroid. DriveDroid allows you to boot your PC from ISO/IMG files stored on your phone. This is ideal for trying Linux distributions without the need to burn different CDs or USB flash drives."09:46
amruwhat cons ubuntu mate 17.1009:47
abouttotryoutubulotuspsychje: Can I install it from my phone, is this advisable?09:47
lotuspsychjeamru: join #ubuntu-discuss09:48
lotuspsychjeabouttotryoutubu: not sure if a computer can boot from a phone..09:48
lotuspsychjeabouttotryoutubu: there is a way to load iso's from grub, but then you needing grub09:48
vegombreihowcome movies dont stream on firefox and they stream just fine on chromium ?09:49
lotuspsychjeabouttotryoutubu: you could try to drivedroid..09:51
lotuspsychjevegombrei: perhaps the #firefox channel might know that09:52
amruwhat is a debian packages???09:52
Borw3!dpkg09:52
ubottudpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.09:52
niko1990Hello everyone09:54
lotuspsychjeniko1990: welcome, how can we help you?09:54
niko1990could someone tell me what !aNULL is for a command?09:54
lotuspsychjeniko1990: command where?09:55
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niko1990i'm trying to secure right now postfix with an ssl cert. and for this i should execute the command:09:56
niko1990postconf -e tls_high_cipherlist=EDH+CAMELLIA:EDH+aRSA:EECDH+aRSA+AESGCM:EECDH+aRSA+SHA384:EECDH+aRSA+SHA256:EECDH:+CAMELLIA256:+AES256:+CAMELLIA128:+AES128:+SSLv3:!aNULL:!eNULL:!LOW:!3DES:!MD5:!EXP:!PSK:!DSS:!RC4:!SEED:!ECDSA:CAMELLIA256-SHA:AES256-SHA:CAMELLIA128-SHA:AES128-SHA09:56
niko1990but it does not work... it returns me: bash: !aNULL: event not found09:56
hackerswhat i do in here???09:56
lotuspsychje!postfix | niko199009:57
ubottuniko1990: postfix is the default !MTA and !MDA on Ubuntu. For help, read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixBasicSetupHowto - See also !MailServer09:57
ikoniawhat are you trying to actually do09:57
abouttotryoutubulotuspsychje: looks good so far, drivedroid has the phone recognized as a usb drive, I am downloading the .iso now10:11
lotuspsychjeabouttotryoutubu: neat!10:12
lotuspsychjeabouttotryoutubu: let me know if your bios will recognize your phone10:12
lotuspsychjeabouttotryoutubu: would be a nice feedback for us10:12
abouttotryoutubulotuspsychje: it does, but the thinkpad bios is a bit confusing to me, so I was not sure how to boot the stock drivedroid image, figured it would be pointless since bios sees the phone. Let's see if it's gonna bboot from the kubuntu .iso...10:14
abouttotryoutubuI'll figure it out :)10:14
lotuspsychjeabouttotryoutubu: you can check F12 and see if your device shows as usb?10:15
lotuspsychjeabouttotryoutubu: or go deeper in to your computers bios, see if you can set usb/external storage as primary boot10:16
abouttotryoutubulotuspsychje: yes, it does. However, when I chose it with enter, it said that it's not secure ot whatever and it didn't boot up10:16
lotuspsychjehmm10:16
lotuspsychjeabouttotryoutubu: perhaps something else block like secureboot or fastboot?10:16
abouttotryoutubulotuspsychje: what are these? :)10:16
lotuspsychjeabouttotryoutubu: uefi settings (if your system has uefi?)10:17
abouttotryoutubuI am on a thinkad x250, windows 1010:17
lotuspsychjeabouttotryoutubu: yeah w10 has uefi10:17
lotuspsychjeabouttotryoutubu: for installing ubuntu singleboot on your computer, fastboot & secureboot must be disabled10:18
abouttotryoutubulotuspsychje: so should I look into disabling this efi stuff or what exactly10:18
abouttotryoutubulotuspsychje: I want to dual boot, since it's her first Linux experience, she's scared :)10:18
lotuspsychjeabouttotryoutubu: ah cant help with that, dont like dualboots myself10:19
lotuspsychje!dualboot | abouttotryoutubu10:19
ubottuabouttotryoutubu: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Windows - Macs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro https://help.ubuntu.com/community/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot10:19
ikoniawhy not just let her use windows if thats what she likes ?10:19
lotuspsychje!uefi | abouttotryoutubu see also this10:19
ubottuabouttotryoutubu see also this: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI10:19
abouttotryoutubulotuspsychje: I will look into that. What about the UEFI thing though, how do I boot up...10:19
ikoniaif she's worried about a using linux, giving her a dual boot system to maintain seems counter productive10:19
abouttotryoutubuthanks10:19
abouttotryoutubuikonia: she just wants to make sure that she has microsoft office for her uni projects10:20
ikoniaso why not use windows then10:21
ikoniashe has windows, she has office, she needs it for uni, why not just use what works10:21
zomaarabouttotryoutubu: You can also install Grub in Windows10:21
ikoniawhat ???10:22
zomaarThere is a Grub for Windows10:22
ikoniaplease don't suggest grub4dos to people10:22
zomaarOh10:22
ikoniait's a terrible concept10:22
zomaarWhy is that10:22
ikoniabecause it doesn't really work very well and puts control of the boot loader in the wrong place10:22
zomaarYou mean with Windows instead of Linux ;-)10:23
ikoniaand putting grub on windows file system won't make dual boot simpler10:23
ikoniaif you just need office and have microsoft windows already - why make something dual boot ?10:23
lotuspsychjeabouttotryoutubu: libreoffice is a great replacement for MS office10:23
zomaarPersonally I do not make dual boot; I use an SD card to boot Linux10:23
zomaarSo I have no Grub that deals with Windows10:24
ikoniathat is dual boot10:25
ikonia"I don't dual boot, but I let grub boot windows for me and linux on an SD card" = that is dual boot10:25
zomaarIn that case booting from an USB stick is dual boot too10:25
zomaarThe point is that the Windows harddisk is completely unaffected10:25
abouttotryoutubuCan I at least live boot? Or can't boot up another .iso at all with UEIF10:26
TheWildhello10:26
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TheWildany clue about unmounting a disk that is used by process that I can't kill even with sudo? They failed to help me on ##linux.10:27
TheWildI mean, no "umount -f", no "umount -l", just force-unmount the f'ing mountpoint!10:27
zomaarTheWild: If kill -9 doesn't work you're out of luck10:27
lotuspsychjeTheWild: we can only support ubuntu here10:28
zomaarI always have a Kubuntu 16.04 live USB in my computer, so technically I would be triple-boot now ;-)10:29
zomaarSo doesn't the Ubuntu live have signed images?10:31
zomaarabouttotryoutubu: You will need to disable secure boot or boot in legacy mode10:32
zomaarSecure boot is really just a ploy to lock out competitors...10:33
zomaarWindows 10 doesn't even require secure boot as long as you have a legacy system10:36
zomaarikonia: I don't use the SD card to boot into Windows. The Windows MBR does that10:43
ikoniazomaar: I'm not really interested, I'm not sure why you are telling me this stuff10:45
zomaarYou just misquoted me that's all I just wanted to correct that10:46
ikoniaI've not quoted you at all10:48
zomaar  "I don't dual boot, but I let grub boot windows for me and linux on an SD card"   that has some quotes around it10:50
zomaarI don't let Grub boot Windows for me, so you misquoted me10:50
OnkelTemMy Xorg doesnt start on new installation of 17.10. Using KDE (sddm).10:50
OnkelTemSo I've installed the system, then was playing with it installing new software for one day, then restarted and it didn't get X10:51
OnkelTemI had to go to tty1, manually stop sddm and start it again and only then I got X running10:52
OnkelTemAnd another issue - again with kwallet. I don't know what's wrong with its developers and do they test it anyway and ever but after the first restart of a system it starts asking a password WHICH IS NOT SET10:52
OnkelTemSo the first time you run the system it's ok, but once you restarted it - it renders broken10:53
OnkelTemThis is annoying since it doesn't change during several versions of KDE10:53
ikoniaOnkelTem: is there a bug report for this ?10:53
OnkelTemI had this before on 14.x, on 16.x and now on 17.x10:54
ikoniaOnkelTem: is there a bug report for this ?10:54
zomaarOnkelTem: It's not a migration thing is it?10:55
OnkelTemzomaar: no! always a new system10:55
zomaarOnkelTem: There was a bug where it asked you for the KDE 4 wallet password10:56
OnkelTemikonia: I couldn't found anything appropriate10:56
ikoniais there a bug for this ?10:56
OnkelTemI don't know, I said I CAN'T find10:56
ikoniaOnkelTem: so....if this was happening to everyone all the time, as you suggest, either a.) no-one has rpeorted a bug in multiple years b.) it's not happening to everyone and this is a much more isolated problem10:56
ikoniawhich seems the most realistic ?10:56
ppfis there a syslog server package?10:57
ikoniappf: yes, it's installed by default10:57
ikoniahence why you see a syslog in /var/log10:57
zomaarNo Ikonia various issues of this kind have always been here10:57
OnkelTemikonia: since I dind't change configuration of my system I wudl suggest it happens for everyone10:57
ppfikonia: i want to receive the syslog from networked devices10:58
OnkelTemikonia: then they go search for it, find that great advice to make the password BLANK and do it10:58
ikoniaOnkelTem: so it's been happening to every kde user for 3 years, yet no-one has reported a single bug on it10:58
akikOnkelTem: i've seen that10:58
ikoniaOnkelTem: does that seem realistic ?10:58
zomaarOnkelTem: You can create a new wallet of course10:58
ikoniappf: ok, configure syslog then10:58
zomaarI've been setting the password blank for years because it would keep asking for my wallet password at login10:59
ppfikonia: how?10:59
ppfi don't see a config file10:59
BL4DEwill ubuntu offer vanilla gnome session by default in the coming years? asking since it replaces ubuntu gnome and hoping for vanilla gnome DE in the future10:59
ikoniaBL4DE: what do you mean by vanilla ?10:59
OnkelTemzomaar: I'm not sure then how to get it configured to be unlocked with the LOGIN password10:59
zomaarOnkelTem: I don't know either10:59
OnkelTemzomaar: shouldn't it just work by default - that's the main question10:59
BL4DEikonia: no extensions, no custom colors. just vanilla gnome like in debian or fedora10:59
ikoniappf: /etc/rsyslog.d11:00
ppfikonia: doesnt exist11:00
ikoniappf: and rsyslog.conf11:00
ppfoh wai11:00
ikoniaBL4DE: fedora and debian are both themed11:00
ppft11:00
ppfit does11:00
ppfi'm very sorry11:00
ikoniappf: it's not a problem11:00
tomreynppf: man rsyslog.conf, "Remote machine"11:00
lotuspsychjeBL4DE: ubuntu comes with few extensions like dock extension and indicators11:00
zomaarOnkelTem: While I have my opinion on that I don't deal in opinions right now11:00
ppftomreyn: yeah ... i was too stupid to understand it's called rsyslog ..11:01
tomreyn;)11:01
ppftomreyn: although that seems to be referring to the client side?11:01
zomaarI can only say that I have been running into this problem for years and I can attest that it is a default issue11:02
tomreynppf: right, this manual section discusses sending messages to a server on the network.11:03
hang3rHiya, I'm trying to get Kaffeine to detect channels with my Realtek dongle, the dongle is detected and loaded by the kernel ok. However when scanning for channels in Kaffeine, nothing shows up11:03
geekosophercan anyone suggest a good free vpn service provider11:03
ppftomreyn: looks like imutp/imtcp is more what i need11:04
lotuspsychjegeekosopher: ##networking perhaps11:04
geekosopherlotuspsychje: thanks11:04
zomaarhang3r: Have you tried dvb5_scan to see if something comes up?11:04
zomaardvbv5_scan*11:04
hang3rzomaar, thanks I'll try it now11:04
zomaarhang3r: Kaffeine requires a bit of setup to select the device first or something11:05
zomaarhang3r: So make sure you didn't miss a configuration step11:05
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varunhow to learn more on irc?11:13
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lotuspsychjeGuest9806: see #freenode for the network part11:13
tomreyn!irc | Guest980611:14
ubottuGuest9806: A list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines11:14
ppfikonia, tomreyn: configured it, but it doesn't work?11:14
ppfhttps://paste.ubuntu.com/26476498/11:15
ppfbut nobody is listening on that port11:15
Guest9806http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist is not found ubotto11:16
Guest9806*ubottu11:16
tomreynGuest9806: you're right, that's outdated, thanks for pointing it out. use !alis to search for channels, /list  to see the full channel listt on this IRC network. irchelp.org for general IRC help (commands provided there may or may not work on this IRC network unmodified)11:17
lotuspsychje!alis | Guest9806 to find channels also11:18
ubottuGuest9806 to find channels also: Alis is an IRC service to help you find channels. For help on using it, see "/msg Alis help list" or ask in #freenode. Example usage: "/msg Alis list http"11:18
Guest9806!irc11:18
ubottuA list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines11:18
Guest9806!alis11:18
Guest9806alis11:18
tomreynppf: how did you check whether this UDP service will accept data?11:18
ppfnetstat11:18
Guest9806I'm not able to get you11:18
ppftomreyn: it's also not receiving any logs from the network11:20
lotuspsychjeGuest9806: read how it works plz11:20
Guest9806ok11:20
est31upgrading my laptop from 14.04 LTS to 16.04 LTS created a problem for me: my fans are at 100% and the computer feels much slower. This feeling is confirmed when I look at /proc/cpuinfo: the CPU is always at its lowest clock rate11:20
tomreynppf: does "sudo lsof -i :514" list it?11:20
lotuspsychjeest31: is your system up to date?11:20
ppftomreyn: nolsen11:20
est31any ideas what I can use to troubleshoot this?11:20
est31lotuspsychje: yes11:20
ppftomreyn: no11:20
est31I've tried getting the latest mainline kernel, but it exhibits the same issue11:20
tomreynppf: did you restart the daemon??11:20
ppftomreyn: yeah11:20
tomreynppf: anything on the logs?11:21
lotuspsychje!info linux-image-generic xenial | est31 tried booting this one?11:21
ubottuest31 tried booting this one?: linux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 4.4.0.112.118 (xenial), package size 2 kB, installed size 13 kB11:21
ppftomreyn: nothing stands out11:22
est31lotuspsychje: how is that different from the default kernel?11:22
lotuspsychjeest31: wich kernel are you on now?11:23
lotuspsychjeest31: lsb_release -a && uname -a11:23
est31lotuspsychje: 4.14.0-01400-generic is the kernel version11:23
tomreynppf: i think the proper rsyslogd syntax for mod loading is "$ModLoad imudp", not "module(load="imudp")"11:23
ppftomreyn: i tried both11:24
est31lotuspsychje: i've installed a mainline kernel to test whether it fixes the issue for me11:24
est31but it didnt11:24
lotuspsychjeest31: ok and have you tested other kernels to see if your cpu still high?11:24
ppfthe $ is in the manpage, the other one in the other config files11:24
est31lotuspsychje: lsb_release says 16.04.3 LTS11:24
lotuspsychjeest31: tried htop to see whats ontop of your list cpu?11:24
est31list cpu?11:25
lotuspsychjeest31: i mean your cpu load11:25
lotuspsychje!ingo htop | est3111:25
lotuspsychje!info htop | est3111:25
est31ah htop11:25
ubottuest31: htop (source: htop): interactive processes viewer. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.2-1 (artful), package size 79 kB, installed size 213 kB11:25
OnkelTemDoes anybody know how to hide splash screen and show just a text output to see the errors? I tried removing 'quiet splash' but it didn't help - only splash has disappeared11:25
tomreynppf: i see what you mean. sorry i can't help there, have never set this up myself with rsyslog.11:25
ppftomreyn: np11:25
est31lotuspsychje: htop says my CPUs are < 5 % each11:26
est31lotuspsychje: sensors says all temperatures are below 35 degrees celsius11:26
est31and the fan still runs at 100%11:26
OnkelTemSo basically when I first press 'e' in the grub menu, then edit the kernel line and proceed with F10 - it shows me a black screen11:26
est31it didnt do that back on 14.04 LTS11:26
OnkelTemHow to get just what was there before in Linux - just a list of things?11:27
zomaarOnkelTem: I don't know if something changed in 17.1011:29
ppftomreyn: i think it might be time for me to switch back to windows ......11:29
zomaarOnkelTem: But it works in 16.10 at least11:29
tomreynppf: have a nice day nevertheless11:30
ppftomreyn: i named the config file 99-server.conF11:30
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ppftomreyn: and it literally took me half an hour to figure that out ....11:31
akikOnkelTem: try also setting GRUB_TERMINAL=console in /etc/default/grub and after that: sudo update-grub11:32
ppfapparently i'm not cut out for this advanced systems management stuff!11:32
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OnkelTemakik: I set it yeah, didn't help though11:33
brainwashest31: it usually helps to mention which hardware/system is having the issue11:33
hassan_hi11:33
hassan_i need help11:34
est31brainwash: laptop HP compaq 6715s, AMD x211:34
hassan_what games for 265 GPU11:34
zomaarpff: Not sure what you're trying to do but nobody is cut out for this ;-)11:34
ppfzomaar: tried to set up remote syslogging ;)11:35
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tomreynppf: in case it would have taken you less time on that other OS, thank about how much time you had to spend to learn your way around advanced stuff there, and how you often don't know how to get things done there even now. advanced stuff generally needs patience and diligence, that's entirely normal.11:35
zomaarpff: You mean with you as the source or you as the target?11:35
ppfzomaar: target11:35
ppftomreyn: i'm joking, you see ;) angry with myself for being unable to type a filename correctly11:36
ppfand then wasting at least two people's time looking for a fix :D11:36
est31so, I'm trying out kernel 3.13 now and it works here11:37
zomaarpff: Well I wasted more than 2 hours yesterday because OpenVPN does not put up the tap interface it creates by default11:37
est31as in: no issues11:37
zomaarpff: And no one tells you ;-)11:37
brainwashest31: mmh. you could go this route, and try to find the first bad kernel11:38
ppfzomaar: but that's not entirely your fault11:38
BL4DEok so I guess I can remove ubuntu-session, install vanilla-gnome-default-settings and gnome-session and it appears to be mostly stock gnome11:38
est31brainwash: is there a tool for that?11:38
brainwashest31: there is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/KernelBisection11:39
brainwashbut that includes compiling kernels11:39
brainwashso, in the end you'll be able to find the exact commit which causes the problem11:39
zomaarppf: Well the amount of times I mistype a filename11:39
zomaarppf: But I will leave you with your self-judgement ;-)11:40
ppf:)11:40
brainwashest31: you want to use https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bisection_method11:40
est31brainwash: thanks11:40
brainwashest31: I assume that your GPU may run hot. can you verify this?11:41
brainwashyou've only mentioned CPU so far11:42
Borw3:D11:42
zomaarest31: Do you have cpufreq-utils installed?11:42
est31zomaar: no11:43
est31but I can install it if it helps finding the bug11:43
zomaarest31: Edit /etc/init.d/cpufreq and set the default profiler to "ondemand"11:45
zomaarest31: While you're at it11:45
zomaarest31: This will at least ensure that the AMD x2 CPU will clock down11:45
est31when it exhibits the bug, it is always clocked down. It not getting up when needed is the problem.11:46
est31only the fan is at 100%11:46
est31zomaar: that file doesnt exist11:50
zomaarest31: What is the output of "cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpufreq/policy0/scaling_governor"11:53
est31zomaar: ondemand11:53
est31(back on the buggy version now)11:53
est31sooo cpufreq says "the clock rate should lie between 800 Mhz and 800 Mhz. the policy ondemand can decide freely inside those bounds"11:54
* est31 translated it from german11:54
OnkelTemFolks, I don't have a browser by hand, how to disable a service from autostarting?11:56
zomaarest31: echo performance | sudo tee /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpufreq/policy[01]/scaling_governor11:56
zomaarest31: You can set the maximum too11:56
zomaarOnkelTerm: systemctl disable <service>11:57
zomaarest31: The file is still /etc/init.d/cpufreq_something11:59
est31zomaar: I've tried writing to scaling_max_freq in that path11:59
est31but it stayed at 800mhz11:59
zomaarWhat about the performance governor11:59
zomaarBut it will soak your battery11:59
est31ok12:00
zomaarest31: I meant using cpufreq-utils12:00
est31I just want the bug to be fixed12:00
zomaarWe all want lots of things but does performance help?12:01
est31lol12:01
OnkelTemzomaar: OnkelTerm - sounds great btw!12:01
est31it does indeed12:02
est31zomaar: in fact I found out that the 3.13 version of the kernel is still around on my system12:02
est31and booting to it works and stuff12:02
est31I can just use 3.13 yeey12:02
zomaarOnkelTem: Oh haha12:02
OnkelTemzomaar: but systemctl doesn't do that, erm...12:03
OnkelTemzomaar: there should be somethig else12:03
OnkelTemI want to disable plymouth service specifically12:03
zomaarThat's different and would require update-initramfs -u anyway12:04
zomaarest31: Nice12:05
OnkelTemHm... So that is no any easy way to see system log during boot? Seems like Linux goes the way Microsoft was following from the beginning - just not showing anything12:06
OnkelTemthere is*12:06
zomaarOnkelTem: If you add "debug" parameter it might write to /run/initramfs/*.log if that still exists12:07
OnkelTemMy system just shows black screen not running Xorg12:07
zomaarOnkelTem: But it's a different kind of log12:07
akikOnkelTem: removing quiet splash and that GRUB_TERMINAL=console have worked for me in every case12:07
zomaarOnkelTem: Also many logs are found in journalctl regardless12:07
OnkelTemakik: I see, not the case here however12:07
BluesKajHowdy folks12:11
arn0lhi everybody12:20
arn0lHi friends how can I download files from a site I've accessed the directories where php files are seen12:22
zomaararn0l: You can only download php files if they are not executed12:23
arn0lzomaar: I see the directory where the php files are located but I can not download the files12:27
arn0lI'm sending a link a minute12:28
zomaararn0l: You can only download php files if they are not executed12:28
arn0lwhy12:30
zomaararn0l: because the server will not give you the php files12:34
zomaararn0l: because it is a webserver that executes php files12:36
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arn0ldhello again12:47
arn0ldhttp://konyaspor.org.tr/wp-includes/12:48
arn0ldCan we download php files on this site?12:48
zomaararn0ld: What is the purpose of a PHP file?12:51
eraserpencilHI guys, I have an odd question to ask12:52
arn0ldI will pull the cookies on the side12:52
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arn0ldBEyler türk var mı12:52
eraserpencilI have a WD 4TB Red plugged in, but lsblk returns it as a 2tb drive12:53
eraserpencillike sdb: 2TB12:53
zomaarLVM tells me to use "vgimportclone" and then I STILL have duplicate PVs12:54
zomaar"  WARNING: duplicate PV kIuse1y6mtkjGCdIUFE1j5SIGsvMO4t3 is being used from both devices /dev/coll/msatapv and /dev/coll1/msatapv"   this is really dumb12:55
eraserpencilsorry i got disconnected12:59
eraserpencildid anyone reply12:59
arn0ld.13:01
oerhekseraserpencil, what partitiontable does it use, msdos or gpt? parted -l # will show that13:01
arn0ldhttp://konyaspor.org.tr/wp-includes/13:02
arn0ldHow can kids access these cookies13:02
zomaararn0ld: Go away13:03
arn0ldhttp://konyaspor.org.tr/wp-includes/Requests/Cookie/13:03
eraserpencilmsdos13:03
arn0ldwhat?13:03
eraserpenciloerheks: msdos13:03
eraserpenciland gpt?13:04
oerhekseraserpencil, there you go, msdos is limited to 2.something tb, use gpt for full capacity13:04
eraserpencilwait13:04
eraserpencilit has msdos, unknown, and gpt13:04
oerheksif that 1st one is msdos, you are bound to that.13:05
eraserpencilsorry. I need to read the output properly. /dev/sdb has a partition table of uknown13:05
IhrFusselWhat's the default unit du uses? Doesn't seem to be bytes13:06
eraserpencilhttps://pastebin.com/1Puh417m13:08
oerhekseraserpencil, use parted to partition gpt, https://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/fdisk-unable-to-create-partition-greater-2tb.html13:10
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oerheksor use gdisk, not fdisk13:11
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eraserpencilyea I did try gdisk but I get a Read error 5 warning and it gets stuck.13:13
eraserpencilI'll try parted13:13
wowoxhello i'm currently installing a new OS and want to keep my /home partition (It has already a dedicated partition /dev/sda5). If i don't format it will my new OS recognize it as its own /home ?13:14
auronandacewowox: provided you've set the mountpoint during installation and keep the same username yes13:14
Borw3wowox: Map it to /home and it will :D13:14
cfhowlett!home | wowox13:14
ubottuwowox: Your home directory is where all of your personal files are usually kept. For moving your home directory to a separate partition, please see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving13:14
wowoxauronandace: can't find how to set the mountpoint during installation. Check this screenshot : https://i.imgur.com/AyXcZM6.png13:17
auronandacewowox: see the dropdown box? use as:13:17
wowox( I also want to resize it so it uses the "free space" )13:17
wowoxauronandace: Oh yea, so I use it as Ext4 and put /home on mountpoint without selecting "format the partition" ?13:18
auronandacewowox: yes, you certainly don't want to format the partition13:19
wowoxOkay perfect13:19
wowoxSo now how to resize it so it uses the "free space" ?13:19
auronandacewowox: select the appropriate partition and press the change button13:20
est31when I want to file a bug about my issue, what do I use best to describe it?13:20
est31also where to file it?13:21
wowoxauronandace: I believe I had /dev/sda4 as primary partition and /dev/sda5 is a logical partition inside it.13:21
cfhowlett!bug | est3113:21
ubottuest31: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please report it using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.13:21
wowoxauronandace: but /dev/sda4 is not shown here13:21
est31cfhowlett: if I suspect the bug is in upstream linux should I file it there? or can I file it on launchpad too13:22
cfhowlettif upstream, yes file it there.13:22
auronandacewowox: if you open a terminal and paste the output in a pastebin please: sudo parted -ls13:23
eraserpenciloerheks: https://pastebin.com/0s5zMy9113:24
wowoxhttps://pastebin.com/raw/L6VHgnmJ13:24
wowoxauronandace: https://pastebin.com/raw/L6VHgnmJ13:25
auronandacewowox: there you go, sda4 is there as the extended partition, it just doesn't show up in the graphical partitioner i the installer13:26
wowoxauronandace: Yep. Now when i try to resize sda5 (my /home partition) it tells me that it can't go beyond 91198 MB13:28
auronandacewowox: can you launch gparted and take a screenshot please? the partitioner in the installer isn't as informative13:32
wowoxauronandace: here it is : https://i.imgur.com/EzC1wth.png13:33
auronandacewowox: much better. you will need to resize sda4 first to the left then you can resize sda513:35
auronandacewowox: it would be best to close the installer and do this via gparted first13:35
auronandacewowox: as usual, good practice would be to make backups before changing any partitions13:35
wowoxauronandace: okay great, so this should be ok now : https://i.imgur.com/1dykwuJ.png13:40
auronandacewowox: splendid, you are all good to go, if you are happy with backups you can now press apply13:41
oerheksno backup? then your data is not important :-D13:42
wowoxauronandace: didn't make backups because i don't have important data, but i'm curious to know what causes data to be lost when resizing ?13:43
auronandacewowox: i think the usual case would be hardware failure, another possibility is sudden power loss13:44
oerheksor bad blocks13:44
htafdweshey, how do I blacklist version 4.13* of the kernel packages?13:44
htafdwesnone of them work on my computer13:44
oerhekshtafdwes, use grub to boot into an older kernel, and see the !grub manual howto set that option as standard13:47
oerheks!grub13:47
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub213:47
lotuspsychjehtafdwes: wich ubuntu version are you on, and what happens exactly?13:48
htafdwesoerheks: yes, I always have to go to advanced settings and choose 4.10 kernel13:48
htafdweslotuspsychje: I'm on 16.04 but had same problem on 17.04 and 17.10, basically if I boot on 4.13 then it freezes on the login screen, no mouse no nothing, can only do hard reset13:49
ChiefAlexSo,you can make a VM with Ubuntu on Android13:51
ChiefAlexI guess that this is the no root way to have Ubuntu on Android13:51
lotuspsychjeChiefAlex: ask in #android13:51
htafdwesChiefAlex: use Termux, it's roughly equivalent13:52
ChiefAlexOk,but I am already trying to install Ubuntu in Limbo13:53
lotuspsychje!info linux-image-generic xenial | htafdwes13:53
ubottuhtafdwes: linux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 4.4.0.112.118 (xenial), package size 2 kB, installed size 13 kB13:53
ChiefAlexI made myself an Live USB with Ubuntu13:55
ChiefAlexBut it has made with Rufus13:55
htafdwesokay, so I apt removed all the 4.13*'s and did apt-mark-hold on linux-image-generic13:56
ChiefAlexAnd has no persistent storage13:56
htafdweshopefully that will do the trick13:56
ChiefAlexHow can I make one with a persistent storage?13:56
oerheksfollow the wiki https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent13:58
htafdwesChiefAlex: I don't know, can ask in #android or lineageos.  the ubuntu phones were discontinued, but can probably find something on them, plasmaos has kubuntu that may have had some new life https://itsfoss.com/open-source-alternatives-android/14:00
ChiefAlexoerheks TX14:00
solidfoxhello, I am on kubuntu 17.04 and anytime I try to use virtualbox my whole computer freezes14:18
oerhekssolidfox, sad to hear that, but 17.04 is EOL, dead, upgrade please14:19
oerheksyou won't recieve important updates, nor from virtualbox14:19
solidfoxoerheks: oh ok.14:23
solidfoxoerheks: what is lts currently? 16.04? or is 18.04 out?14:23
akiksolidfox: lts is both 14.04 and 16.0414:24
oerheks16.04 .. 18.04 will be out in a few months14:24
oerheksoh, indeed, 14.04 is still supported too14:25
lotuspsychjeand 12.04 esm :p14:25
solidfoxok. I'll probably just upgrade to 17.10 to see if that has any fixes14:27
lotuspsychje!usn | solidfox see also the risks of an eol version14:28
ubottusolidfox see also the risks of an eol version: Please see http://www.ubuntu.com/usn for information about recent Ubuntu security updates.14:28
jason1hello14:30
jason1How do I install the console display manager?14:31
akikjason1: what's that?14:32
jason1https://github.com/evertiro/cdm14:32
jason1akik: its a very minimalistic dm, do I create a custom systemd service for it?14:33
akikjason1: sorry that's not supported here. it's really vague on what that even does14:34
oerheksold project, this clone might be more workable.. https://github.com/dopsi/console-tdm14:35
oerheksno idea how it works, still14:35
akikjason1: so even if it says "console" it's for xorg?14:36
oerheksinit/xorg indeed14:37
jason1I think it only starts xorg14:38
jason1because it works without14:38
ikoniahow can a display manager work without xorg or wayland ?14:41
jason1ikonia: because its console display manager14:43
ikoniawhat does that even mean ?14:43
jason1that its not a graphical one14:43
ikoniaso ?14:44
ikoniaa display manager needs a display, this is normally Xorg or wayland14:44
ikoniathe console is just a tty - there is your console display14:44
jason1so it does not depend on xorg14:44
ikoniajason1: how can it not depend on a display server such as xorg or wayland14:44
jason1because it does not need it14:44
ikoniaahhh Im reading the docs, it's just a bash shell script14:45
jason1yeah14:45
ikoniaso it's not really a display manager, it's basically a bash script that runs on a tty14:45
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skinuxHow do I get a list of all PPAs installed?14:50
ikoniado you mean, "how do you get a list of all software that has come from a PPA" or "how do I see which repos I've configured"14:51
skinuxI mean get a list of all PPAs I have added to APT14:51
ikoniaskinux: you'll see it in the config files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d14:51
ikoniaor when you do apt-get update14:51
ikoniaor in the sources list gui14:52
jerwhen doing an apt-get update on a 16.04 machine, i'm getting 403 access denied errosr when hitting archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial/main amd64 Packages <-- any idea? (also a few others, but not all of them)14:53
ikoniaprobably one of the mirrors behind that host is down/having a problem14:54
jerany workaround? this happens reliably so probably hitting the same mirror14:54
ikoniaopen it in a browser, see if you can visually see it14:54
jeri cannot14:54
jerhave tried that already14:54
ikoniamake sure it's not something silly like dns failing on your host14:54
ikoniawhat is the URL you are putting into your browser ?14:55
jerhttp://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/xenial/main/14:55
jeri do not see an amd64 dir there; i do see a binary-amd64 dir though14:55
ikoniaif you look at that whole tree there is no amd6414:57
ikoniaI think that's the correct layout, (I'd need to check)14:57
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jerikonia, dunno something is weird, i get messages about the repo not having a Release file -- probably related to the 403 i get15:04
VTCoderI'm facing an error while trying to install any software due to runit. How can I help myself out?15:06
ikoniaVTCoder: sharing the error/information would be a good start if you want help15:06
ikoniareading logs if you want to help yourself15:06
ikoniajer: the repo looks "visually" ok to me15:06
VTCoderdpkg: error processing package runit (--configure):15:07
VTCoder subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 115:07
VTCoderErrors were encountered while processing:15:07
VTCoder runit15:07
VTCoderE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)15:07
ikoniaVTCoder: so the first question is where does the runit package come from15:07
jerurgh15:08
VTCoderwhat is runit actually? Manual states that its a Unix process no 115:08
MrokiiHello. I'm not sure if I should ask here or on #mozilla or something. Anyhow, I wanted to know if there is a way to install two versions of firefox on #ubuntu, separated from each other completely.15:08
auronandaceVTCoder: an init system, by default ubuntu uses systemd15:08
ikoniaVTCoder: why are you installing it if you don't know what it is15:09
VTCoderI'm trying to install git-all15:09
ikoniaMrokii: if there packages install to different locations or version the binary they install15:09
ikoniaVTCoder: where does the package "git-all" come from15:09
jerikonia, ok turns out there was a proxy in apt.conf.d moving that aside resolved the problem15:10
VTCoderUbuntu15:10
jermy vps provider apparently pre-installed a proxy15:10
ikoniajer: nice spot15:10
ikonia!info git-all15:10
jerand it's having problems15:10
ubottugit-all (source: git): fast, scalable, distributed revision control system (all subpackages). In component universe, is optional. Version 1:2.14.1-1ubuntu4 (artful), package size 6 kB, installed size 710 kB15:10
ikoniaso I doubt git would require an init system15:10
ikoniaare you sure it's a dependency15:10
VTCoderikonia: that's what the terminal shows15:11
ikoniahow are you verifying it's a dependency ?15:12
VTCoderhow can I? plz elaborate15:12
VTCoderBTW the problem started after I upgraded15:13
ikoniaupgraded what to what15:14
nitishI've dual boot. wifi is not working in ubuntu. Someone plz help.15:14
oerheksnitish, dual boot with win10?15:15
nitish@oerheks, yes15:15
oerheksnitish, check out if fastboot is disabled, that could prevent wifi from working15:15
nitishi've disabled it @oerheks15:16
oerheks* if enabled15:16
oerheksnitish, oke, did wifi work before?15:16
nitishworking in windows. didn't worked in ubuntu 16.04 since starting15:16
VTCoderhas the support for wine ended?15:17
nitish@oerheks, laptop manufacterer: HP15:17
VTCoderhas the support for wine ended?15:18
ikoniaVTCoder: what support ?15:18
ikoniawhat support15:18
VTCoderI'm not able to install wine15:18
oerheksnitish, does the driver util give any driver available? sources > additional driver15:18
ikoniaas I said earlier you need to give info, you can't just say "broken, help"15:18
nitish@oerheks, not any additional wifi available15:19
VTCoderikonia: says IP address 91.189.88.149.80 not found15:19
ikoniaVTCoder: what does ?15:19
ikoniaVTCoder: it's impossible to help you with this scattered info15:19
oerheksVTCoder, are you still on 17.04?15:19
VTCoderand due to that it failed to fetch the files for installation15:19
VTCoder16.0415:19
ikoniaVTCoder: it's like me saying "fix it" as the answer15:19
nitishDoes anyone have any idea about how to fix wifi not showing in ubuntu 16.04 (dual boot with windows 10)?15:22
oerheksnitish, what adapter is it, lspci -nn -d ::28015:22
nitish@oerheks, its showing invalid option15:23
nitish@oerheks, lspci -nn showing: Realtek semiconductor Co. Ltd15:25
oerheksnitish, there should be more, realtek makes 1000+ wifi devices15:26
just_another_leahow can I go in Ubuntu Development?15:27
nitish@oerheks, yes. let me share it via pastebin.15:28
oerheks!development15:28
ubottuInterested in becoming an Ubuntu Developer? Get started here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment15:28
nitish@oerheks: https://pastebin.com/AqK7ypUU15:29
nitish@oerheks: I've also shared output of 'cat /etc/network/interfaces', 'lspci -knn | grep Net -A2' and 'rfkill list all' here https://askubuntu.com/questions/1000679/wifi-and-bluetooth-is-not-working-in-ubuntu-16-0415:30
oerheksnitish, found it, it is the rtl8723de, no official driver available, you *could* try to build this one yourself ,, https://askubuntu.com/a/989152 >> https://askubuntu.com/questions/961299/cannot-see-my-wifi-10ecd723-when-trying-ubuntu15:32
nitish@oerheks: Do I need to follow first part of answer or both part? I mean after "The dkms way (the instructions from the developer's driver):" this line https://askubuntu.com/questions/961299/cannot-see-my-wifi-10ecd723-when-trying-ubuntu/989152#98915215:41
oerheksnitish, follow https://askubuntu.com/a/989152 , that would do the same as https://github.com/smlinux/rtl8723de15:42
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skinuxThis may be a strange question, but how can I install OpenJDK 7 JRE?15:50
manyakit's not strange just unusual15:51
skinuxI'm having to try to use a software at 1-step-back prior version and it requires 715:51
manyakwe usually ask this type questions to the zoogle15:51
oerheksskinux, depreciated, use openjdk8 or 9 ? https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=openjdk-7-jdk15:52
kostkonskinux, are you sure it can't work in 7+?15:52
kostkonskinux, 8+15:52
nitish@oerheks, thank you very much sir.15:53
oerhekshttps://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=openjdk newest is 10 now, great15:53
oerheksnitish, it works?15:53
nitishyes. Perfectly. A big thank from bottom of the heart.15:54
oerheksnitish, have fun!15:54
nitish@oerheks, you saved my big time. Have a nice day. Good night.15:54
skinuxIt's FrostWire 5.x 6.x wouldn't launch, so I'm reverting to 5.x and that requires jre 715:55
waldmeisterhi15:56
waldmeisteris kubuntu just the official ubuntu with an kde interface, or something different?15:56
kostkonskinux, try with openjdk815:57
skinuxI have15:57
doctorlyI don't have nay man pages, anyone know a common reason for this?15:57
brainwash!kubuntu15:57
ubottuKubuntu is the Ubuntu flavour using KDE Software and the KDE Plasma Workspaces.  See https://kubuntu.org for more information - For support join  #kubuntu - See also !kde15:57
doctorlyI am on 18.04 btw15:58
waldmeisteri thought the latest version was 17.1015:59
oerheks frostwire depends on openjdk-8-jre ... http://www.elinuxbook.com/install-frostwire-app-frostwire-torrent-client-in-ubuntu-16-04-a-best-bittorrent-alternative-for-linux/15:59
waldmeisterthanks for the reply, i try to find out what a flavour exactly is16:00
ducasse!ubuntu+1 | doctorly16:00
ubottudoctorly: Bionic Beaver is the codename for Ubuntu 18.04 - Support only in #ubuntu+116:00
waldmeister!kde16:02
ubottuKDE (http://kde.org) is an open community that creates and maintains software including the Plasma desktop.  To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install  kubuntu-desktop », or see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . See  http://kubuntu.org for more information.16:02
skinuxWell, JRE 7 didn't work. Forstwire couldn't find it. So, I'll have to fix the Look and Feel error I guess.16:04
skinuxThough, I'm thinking it's a FrostWire bug and not something I can solve.16:04
oerheksskinux, no, <oerheks>  frostwire depends on openjdk-8-jre ... http://www.elinuxbook.com/install-frostwire-app-frostwire-torrent-client-in-ubuntu-16-04-a-best-bittorrent-alternative-for-linux/16:05
oerheksor is it just a 32 bit blob ?? http://www.humans-enabled.com/2016/09/howto-frostwire-install-on-ubuntu-linux.html16:06
oerheks:-D16:06
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kostkon!xchat16:11
ubottuxchat and xchat-gnome have not had stable releases in years. xchat was removed from Ubuntu for 16.04. Consider using hexchat instead, which is actively developed and available in 14.04 onwards.16:11
skinuxWell, 8 is installed https://gist.github.com/skinuxgeek/382fba37f940ff0c58e09f1405f70da616:11
oerheksskinux, the 32 bit version too?16:12
skinuxThis is a 64-bit machine16:12
kostkonskinux, looks like that's 9. sudo update-java-alternatives    and select the version of java you want to have as the default jre16:13
darksoul__hello16:13
oerheksi just posted a piece that shows it uses 32 java..16:13
skinuxSo, I add i386 architecture to my APT?16:15
skinuxOr dpkg I mean16:15
oerhekshmm just tested, opening the frostwire.deb in softwarecenter just installs nicely, and updates16:18
zomaarI didn't know Ubuntu by default deletes archives if bigger than 500MB :(16:25
zomaarSpent days downloading stuff over a slow link16:26
zomaarAnd then the excess was removed :(16:26
waldmeisterdid you install it?16:27
zomaarI don't wanna go there now :)16:27
zomaarIt has to be clean16:27
waldmeistermaybe a friend can write it to a dvd/usb stick and send it to you if you need it16:30
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Ben________Hi! Does anyone know how to fix the errno5 when trying to install it on virtual box I have also tried to redownload the iso file but it didn’t work. (I am not at my computer right now so I can’t try to reinstall it)16:34
funabashiHi guyys, how can i remove all perl ?16:43
oerhekssudo apt-get remove purge --auto-remove perl16:45
oerhekssomething like that?16:45
funabashii have done that but still perl directories16:45
oerheksfunabashi, remove them manually then?16:47
ducasseuse dpkg -S to see which packages they belong to16:48
azizhi17:02
pankajHow to update many of many of my packages all in one?17:10
sammecsHi, how can I install a package on a live booted system? Temporarily, on the RAM disk.17:11
ducassepankaj: 'apt update ; apt full-upgrade'17:11
ducassepankaj: that will upgrade all packages17:11
pankajducasse: I did 'full-upgrade' one time and it broke my system.17:11
ducassepankaj: you were probably using ppas, then17:13
pankajducasse: What>17:15
sammecsPPAs: Repositories from other users (unofficial repositories, mostly used for very specific or new software)17:17
oerhekspankaj, odd argument, anyway you can always fix things with apt install-f or dkpg configure17:17
pankajoerheks: OK. I am checking.17:17
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fraktorI'm trying to set my cpu scaling governor to performance (I'm using the intel_pstate driver), but on startup it's always set to powersave. I've configured /etc/init.d/cpufrequtils to use performance. When I manually run the shell script, it works properly, but it's back to powersave once I reboot.17:37
ioriafraktor, and what's in /etc/default/cpufrequtils ?17:42
solidfoxyes. I was on 16.04 actually lol. and I upgraded to 17.10, then I had to reinstall xorg input drivers! they were removed17:56
solidfoxgonna test vitualbox17:59
skinuxOkay, so someone said I need to have 32-bit version of OpenJDK 9, so I need a link to a correct resource for how to install it.17:59
solidfoxnot frozen17:59
solidfox:)18:00
emanuelO.O18:00
catbadgerhi18:01
catbadgerI am experiencing some stress. I think I locked out my only user account to a vm. I have an open ssh connection, but I am unable to log in on fresh connections.18:02
akikcatbadger: what error do you get? did the vm fill up its storage?18:04
oerheksskinux, just tested on amd64, opening the frostwire.deb in softwarecenter just installs nicely, and updates18:04
fraktortoria: I set that to performance as well.18:04
catbadgerakik: the vm did not fill it's storage. it's only at around 12% full18:05
akikcatbadger: what error do you get?18:05
akikcatbadger: you can see your sshd logs with: sudo journalctl -u ssh18:06
akikcatbadger: you can see your sshd logs with and get an updating log with: sudo journalctl -f -u ssh18:07
sonowwhathello... my system is hanging on an update... i didn't even know if i was going to recover my login screen/window manager18:09
sonowwhatnot sure what to do - googled - I was using recovery mode and choosing to fix broken packages - everything went okay except it hanged on [ok] started braille device support18:11
sonowwhatcan anyone help?18:11
sonowwhatsomething similar on askubuntu suggested dpkg --configure -a18:11
sonowwhatbut, that was for an upgrade...I was just updating the system as I haven't logged in on it for a long while18:12
sonowwhatanyone?18:12
sonowwhatthe problem started when I was upgrading and I had a system freeze so rebooted18:12
akiksonowwhat: did you run the dpkg command?18:13
sonowwhatno...should i run it?18:17
sonowwhatakik, or should I try apt-get update first to see where it hangs?18:17
skinuxoerks: Hmm. Well, it doesn't for me.18:18
skinuxI have this issue https://gist.github.com/skinuxgeek/382fba37f940ff0c58e09f1405f70da618:18
akiksonowwhat: your package upgrades were stopped when you rebooted the machine, try running it first18:18
sonowwhatI was running commands in recovery mode....but, it must have repaired enough so that I could log in to the desktop18:18
sonowwhatakik, run what?18:19
akiksonowwhat: sudo dpkg --configure -a18:19
sonowwhatand I had to reboot... system was totally frozen18:19
sonowwhatokay18:19
sonowwhatthe output was:  'Setting up' and then listed a bunch of packages.... then finished18:20
sonowwhatgood, right?18:20
hdpbI found the unity quicklists gnome extension, but the description says it is enabled in current gnome shell. How do I activate/setup the quicklists?18:21
sonowwhatbtw, I'm running 16.0418:21
sonowwhaton this partition18:21
funabashihey guys anyone know what this issue can be with apt-get install , https://paste.ubuntu.com/26478799/18:21
sonowwhatakik: does that look good?18:21
sonowwhatshould I try: apt-get update now?18:22
akiksonowwhat: yes18:22
sonowwhatjust did... I'm good now, thanks18:23
sonowwhatwhew18:23
sonowwhatI'm running 16.04 LTS.... is it good to leave it?  I have 17.10 on another partition18:24
akiksonowwhat: what do you mean leave it? it's supported until 202118:27
oerheksskinux, well, file a bugreport with them, i have no clue other that openjdk8+ should work. just removed that piece of binairy crap18:29
anddamhello, can top sort by memory while running in batch mode?18:29
sonowwhatakik: either just update or upgrade... supported for 5 more years, I was aware...so maybe just leave it? :)18:29
sonowwhatI had anxiety when upgrading 17.04 to 17.10 :)18:30
sonowwhatanother partition/OS18:30
akiksonowwhat: impossible question present, you18:30
oerheksanddam, easy to find: top -o %MEM18:30
sonowwhatakik, why impossible?18:31
akiksonowwhat: no one can tell you what to do but you yourself18:31
sonowwhatbtw, I am using a tv for my display now since my monitor died.... it shows in settings as 7" display and browser is 'large' but title bar at bottom and top is tiny....18:31
catbadgerkids needed breakfast. just got back.. scrolling...18:31
sonowwhattext there is small too... wonder if there's anything I can do with it18:31
sonowwhatany fix?18:31
kostkonsonowwhat, 17.10 will run out of support pretty soon, you'll have to upgrade to 18.04 that's for sure, another anxiety attack you'll have to endure18:32
catbadgerthanks akik18:32
skinuxIs this not an error that this channel can help with? https://gist.github.com/skinuxgeek/382fba37f940ff0c58e09f1405f70da618:32
sonowwhatno idea why it's listed as 7" but I think the settings showed using two displays so the '7" was the overlap as it was probably considered the '2nd screen'18:32
akiksonowwhat: is it a samsung tv?18:32
sonowwhatdon't know how to describe it...know what i mean?18:32
akiksonowwhat: because i have a samsung tv that does that :)18:33
sonowwhatkostkon, for sure :)18:33
sonowwhatthe last upgrade I did went smooth.... not the past one, though :)18:33
sonowwhatakik, yep, Samsung :)18:33
sonowwhatan older Samsung.... kinda defective too.... problem with the screen18:33
sonowwhatbut, it's not effecting this problem18:33
sonowwhatit's an older one, with 1360 x 768 res :-/18:34
akiksonowwhat: in some cases you can tell xorg which dpi value to use but it's not so easy to do18:34
sonowwhati think I need to 're-do' the display settings?  somehow?18:34
sonowwhatI think the xorg/settings are interpreting this as a '2nd display' still?18:35
sonowwhatakik, doesn't sound easy to do either18:35
akiksonowwhat: do you get a good list of resolutions if you run: xrandr18:35
sonowwhatakik, yes18:36
sonowwhati think i want to run at the native res?  Which it is now18:36
akiksonowwhat: so it's working now?18:37
skinuxI can't find an answer online and no one seems to have an answer on IRC.18:37
sonowwhatI tried 1920 x 1080 which was no better...probably worse...but, I expected that18:37
akiksonowwhat: native resolution is the best18:37
sonowwhatdepends how you define 'working' :)18:37
sonowwhatthe title bars are overly small...text is tiny and not readable....18:37
sonowwhatbrowser window is rather large...tabs are large... i guess any window is large from any app18:38
sonowwhatit's the ubuntu /gnome - part - what do you call it - that is too small for reading18:38
akiksonowwhat: you can adjust some of those settings18:39
akiksonowwhat: i wrote this because 17.10 gnome graphics was too big for 1366x768 https://atkdinosaurus.wordpress.com/2017/10/24/how-to-make-gnome-graphics-elements-smaller-ubuntu-17-10/18:40
catbadgerI'm freaking the eff out. is there anyway to check how long my user might be locked out for?18:42
akikcatbadger: did you lose connection to your server?18:43
catbadgerno, but i can't sudo now... I'm growing increasingly worried.18:43
akikcatbadger: try changing your user password with: passwd18:43
akikcatbadger: and try to remember if you changed some configuration that caused this problem18:44
catbadgerakik: Authentication token manipulation error18:44
sonowwhatakik, thanks.  But, that won't change the size of the title bar and the text there, right?18:45
d0lphinIs it safe i use steam in linux?! because i dont want to give root access... to steam18:45
charanpreetihi18:45
sonowwhatakik, the tabs there at the bottom - are small and not very readable either - which is what i am trying to say18:45
akiksonowwhat: you might find the setting for title bar font/size in dconf-editor18:45
sonowwhatif I right click them for the pop up 'options' - 'minimiz/unmaximize/close' they are so tiny, barely readable18:46
cristian_cakik: how could I resize titlebar buttons in gnome applications?18:46
akiksonowwhat: sorry i don't use gnome, but kde18:46
sonowwhatakik, you know what is funny?  I have a 3rd partition of ubuntu - I have kde there18:46
sonowwhatI think i have the same problem there :)18:47
sonowwhatof course, it looks different but the same small bars/text18:47
sonowwhatdconf-editor?18:47
Bashing-omsonowwhat: HiDpi display ? Then some tweaks here : https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/HiDPI#Xfce .18:47
akiksonowwhat: it's used to change gnome settings18:48
akik!info gnome-tweak-tool artful18:51
ubottugnome-tweak-tool (source: gnome-tweak-tool): tool to adjust advanced configuration settings for GNOME. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.26.2.1-1ubuntu1 (artful), package size 200 kB, installed size 1170 kB18:51
akiksonowwhat: you can try to use gnome-tweak-tool also18:51
sonowwhatI have the gnome tweak tool but don't see what to do18:51
sonowwhatin fact, I was just looking at it just now18:52
sonowwhatunder 'fonts' - there's a tab for 'window titles' - is that what i change?  doesn't look like it18:53
sonowwhatthe font size is already 11 and the title bar fonts look much smaller than that18:53
sonowwhatso I don't see any settings that will help me :-/18:53
akiksonowwhat: and dconf-editor ?18:55
ismael__olá19:09
ismael__alguem pode me ajudar?19:09
ismael__unity não vai voltar?19:09
ismael__será que alguem pode me dizerW19:09
ismael__?19:10
ismael__olá19:10
ismael__tem alguem nesse canal?19:10
akikno portuguese support here, try english19:10
ismael__my name is ismael19:10
ismael__spiky portuguese19:11
ismael__?19:11
ismael__i19:11
akik!pt19:11
ubottuPor favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigada.19:11
SomeT!es19:12
ubottuEn la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.19:12
akiki'm pretty sure that's portuguese and not spanish19:13
SomeThaving trouble connecting to ubuntu over ssh, on digitaloceon droplet, works fine when I connect through the web, ran nmap on terminal in  web console, and port 22 is definitely open, when I connect using PuTTy software it timesout in connecting...?19:18
ikonia"when I connect through the web"19:20
ikoniawhat does that mean19:20
SomeTon digital oceon you can connect to the terminal via a web console19:20
SomeTand that works19:20
ikoniaso the web console is nothing to do with ssh19:20
SomeTyeah but I know the machine is not powered off or anything19:21
SomeTthis only started to happen when I put in reboot19:21
SomeTthe command reboot19:21
SomeTI needed to do system restart19:21
ikoniarunning nmap on the terminal adds no value19:21
SomeTit tells me port 22 is open19:21
ikoniano it doesn't19:22
SomeTwhy?19:22
ikoniabecause you're on the host, it doesn't interact with the interface19:22
SomeTah ok so what are you getting at?19:22
ikoniarun the port scan (or just telnet to port 22) from an external host19:22
catbadgerok, so I rebooted into root console and added a user and added them to the sudo group. I can login directly to the console as that user, but can't ssh in as them. what gives?19:23
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SomeTactually it works now19:23
ikoniathat will show you the real connectivity to that host from the outside work19:23
SomeTmust of been server slowness?19:23
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ikoniaSomeT: unlikely, that would be a terrible lag to hit the time out19:23
SomeThow long we talking?19:23
SomeTmore than a ms?19:23
ikoniaI think it's 3 minutes by default19:23
ikoniamaybe less,19:24
SomeTum weird19:24
SomeTreckon its worth investigating further now it works?19:24
ikoniait's certainly over 60 seconds19:24
ikoniaup to y ou19:24
ikoniayou19:24
ikonianot sure what you're going to get now that it's working19:24
SomeTjust do the port scan right?19:24
oerhekssudo ufw status19:24
ikoniawell, you know the ports open, you know it's working19:24
SomeTwhat does sudo ufw status do?19:25
oerheksit shows current rules ?19:26
ikoniashows you the status of your firewall19:26
oerhekssudo ufw allow 22/tcp # to open port 2219:26
oerhekshttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW19:27
SomeT22                         ALLOW       Anywhere19:28
SomeTits open right?19:28
SomeTno problemo19:28
ikoniayou know it's open19:28
Kobazhey... when shutting down, systemd gets stuck on stopping gdm19:28
ikoniayou just said it was working19:28
SomeThow?19:28
Kobazwhat's a good thing to look at first19:28
SomeTikonia this is confusing me19:29
oerheksSomeT, if you connect from aws mindterm/webcnsole, they have a helppage https://docs.aws.amazon.com/AWSEC2/latest/UserGuide/mindterm.html19:33
oerheksoh wait, digitalocean..19:34
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oerhekshttps://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-use-the-digitalocean-console-to-access-your-droplet19:34
SomeTI am just trolling at this point bruv19:36
oerheksSomeT, noted, and on ignore.19:43
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benjamin__Hi, I keep getting errno5 when trying to install ubuntu on a virtual machine and I have tried to redownload the file but nothing is working20:08
benjamin__It also seems I keep getting different MD5 hashes20:09
senapsi have installed docky in ubuntu 17.10, i can't drag icons to it. how would i add icons to it?20:09
WoCis there an easy way to switch all apparmor from enforce to complain ?20:11
WoCAny suggestions appreciated20:11
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backnforthHi, will someone help me with my lubuntu install. I had Linux Mint installed, and my game Rocket League would run with excellent graphics, but now when I run it with Lubuntu most of the graphics is black with some white.20:20
Bashing-ombacknforth: Show the channel what the graphic's situation is ; Pastebin ' sudo lshw -C display ' .20:23
backnforthBashing-om, https://hastebin.com/ceyofemubi.rb20:24
oerhekswhat driver is in use ? >> lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 | grep 'in use'20:26
WoCnm, found it; ( find / -type f -exec aa-complain {} \; )20:26
WoCty anyway20:26
backnforthoerheks, https://hastebin.com/xojosikeka.css20:27
ioriabacknforth, 16.04 ?20:27
backnforth17.1020:27
ioriai guess it's a 'mesa' issue ..20:28
catbadgerok so With ssh -vvv I'm getting "permission denied" for all users via ssh20:30
catbadgerbut i can log in directly using kvm's console20:30
backnforthioria, what should I do to fix my problem?20:32
ioriabacknforth, there was a fix for xenial but not for artful20:32
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backnforthioria, Can I install a different driver?20:32
ray_asir20:32
ray_que tal20:33
ioriabacknforth, i don't think is about that20:33
backnforthioria, what should I install for an OS instead?20:34
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backnforthioria, is there a another ubuntu derivative that would work?20:37
Bashing-ombacknforth: Look'n like you may be avle to run the amdgpu driver . still checking .. Be aware I do not "know" AMD graphic's .20:37
backnforthBashing-om, Ok. Let me know if you need me to test/run anything20:37
ioriabacknforth, are you fully updated ?20:40
backnforthioria, yes, and I have done a restart20:40
Bashing-ombacknforth: Try: https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=250624 . rene's post looks simple and straight forward to have the amdgpu driver .20:56
oerhekshe has amdgpu running, Bashing-om21:00
krabadorradeon in use21:01
krabadoronly the module.21:01
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catbadgerok I'm starting to sweat here.21:18
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catbadgerI can't log in via ssh21:18
catbadgerbut my password works when on the box.21:19
Tigger_Englandthe CIA will be listening21:19
skyhey there, I installed php7 and postfix. I can send mail from cli, but not with php21:21
skydo I need to install the php-mail package?21:21
catbadgerI've tried resetting the password to something simpler. I've tried running sshd manually and listening to the output. it says authentication failed for invalid user... why would my user be invalid for ssh?21:21
Howie69sky: Yes21:23
skyhrm.21:24
skythat sucks21:24
skyi thought it was built in21:24
Howie69Things are never that easy :)(21:24
backnforthBashing-om, this doesn'tw ork21:24
skybeen futzing with this for too long21:25
sky:/21:25
backnforthI have tried installing amdgpu-pro too21:25
Bashing-ombacknforth: ' lsmod | grep amdgpu ' shows what ?21:25
backnforthBashing-om, https://hastebin.com/eqofeyedaj.pl21:26
backnforthoops21:26
skyHowie69: ok still having trouble21:26
backnforthBashing-om, https://hastebin.com/rehesogoto.pl21:26
NoobCodehi there I've been using "export" command (configuring android studio), but I Did something wrong and I need to change the path string, but I don't have idea where is the file who works with exports..would u help me?21:26
Howie69sky: After those are done, you might want to try #php21:27
skyi know plenty of php21:27
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Howie69sky: They can help debug a little better.  It's been a while since I did that setup (I have old servers)21:27
ZythyrAnyone here has used full disk encryption with crytpsetup?21:28
rypervencheZythyr: Yep.21:30
Bashing-ombacknforth: " lsmod | grep amdgpu >> amdgpu               2007040  0 " . Thw zero here mean the module is availabale but NOT in use ? Someone smarter than I, please advise .21:32
Zythyrrypervenche I used LUKS to ONLY encrypt my home partition. I am editing the crypttab file. I want to set the partition can be mounted automatically when unattended. I was planning on providing a key from a remote server. I am looking at this guide as an example. http://blog.devork.be/2016/12/encrypted-root-on-debian-with.html However. what I don't understand is twhat is the difference between21:33
Zythyrkeyfile and keyscript in the crypttab setup?21:33
backnforthBashing-om, I might go with lubuntu 16.0421:35
Bashing-ombacknforth: In answer to the above " used 0 " .... >> " and whether they're being used by other modules. " .21:36
backnforthBashing-om, I don't know enough about Ubuntu or Linux to fix this21:38
Bashing-ombacknforth: Well, A RE-install is the faster, but we learn nothing from that expedient. I know littl of AMD but am willing to learn . If ya want to keep poking away at it .21:40
rypervencheZythyr: A keyfile is the actual file that is your key. A keyscript is a script that does some things to essentially cat out the key file in one way or another.21:40
Zythyrrypervenche I read multiple guides about keyscript. They keep talking about intraramfs thing. I am not really understanding how it relates to keyscript21:41
backnforthBashing-om, I'm game with keep pocking21:41
rypervencheZythyr: All of what you are wanting to do has to be added to your initramfs.21:41
backnforthBashing-om, we can use teamviewer if you want and I can give you acces to my system21:41
ZythyrWhy is that?21:41
rypervencheZythyr: Your initramfs is where your device is decrypted and mounted properly so that you can log into your machine.21:42
backnforthBashing-om, Whatever, I'm game to keep working on it21:42
Zythyrrypervenche What if I create keyscript on my system partition (not encrypted) that basically cats out the key by doing "cat my_passphrase". In this case do I need to mess with the intramfs thing? (yes I know it is unsafe to leave passphrase unencrypted. This is just a thought excersie"21:43
Bashing-ombacknforth: We know that the amdgpu driver is loaded, what does the gpu-manager have to relate ' cat /var/log/gpu-manager.log ' and also .. what DE is this ' echo $XDG_SESSION_TYPE " ?21:44
rypervencheZythyr: If you are doing to do that, why not just use your keyfile? And you ARE using an initramfs if you have LUKS. That's not something you can get around.21:44
rypervencheZythyr: You just aren't aware of it.21:44
backnforthBashing-om, https://hastebin.com/okepaniviq.vbs21:45
backnforthBashing-om, x1121:45
Zythyrrypervenche So what I am planning on doing is creating a keyscript that fetches a key from a remote https server. The key will ONLY be avaible when I need to do a remote reboot or Wake on Lan of the server.21:46
Bashing-ombacknforth: Well, not ! " Is amdgpu kernel module available? no " . let me finish reading and see where we go from here .21:47
rypervencheZythyr: That is fine, so long as you have networking set up in your initramfs and the necessary tools for fetching the key.21:47
Zythyrrypervenche So if I understand correnlty, configuration of the initramfs is to provide the necessary tools to execute the keyscript program?21:48
Bashing-ombacknforth: And further " How many cards? 0 " . Ouch ! why is the card not seen ? we get any hints on X's log file ' cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log ' as you are running x11 will be under the control of Xorg :)21:50
rypervencheZythyr: It's to provide the necessary tools to make your rootfs available and mountable. At which point your machine can continue booting up. A USB with your key may be easier to set up.21:50
Zythyrrypervenche I don't want to do usb key because if server gets stolen, so does the USB key that is always attached to it. Thus I was trying to a remote https method21:52
backnforthBashing-om, https://hastebin.com/ayuderiwuf.hs21:53
Zythyrrypervenche So basically I put the keyscript in the /lib/cryptsetup/scripts/ folder?21:53
rypervencheZythyr: No idea. That is something Ubuntu-specific that I won't be able to help with.21:54
analogicalis there a cue splitter for Ubuntu that can split FLAC-files into individual tracks??21:54
Bashing-ombacknforth: Reading .. I will be awhile .21:58
rypervencheanalogical: There is indeed. https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/CUE_Splitting21:59
JohnnyDoeWhich server brand should I choose for my upcoming Ubuntu Server?22:00
JohnnyDoeHP, Lenovo, Fujitsu22:01
Bashing-ombacknforth: Yuk, attempted to load the proprietary overlay amdgpu-PRO .. but we get " 23.494] (EE) open /dev/dri/card0: No such file or directory " . Do not know what to make of this .. still reading .22:03
adamitschI have figured out that I have two established ssh (root) connections with chineese IP... I disabled ssh for now. What should I do? :S22:04
adamitschwhat could have they done yet?*22:06
rypervencheadamitsch: Reinstall.22:06
rypervencheadamitsch: There is no way to know how much they have infected your machine. The only way to be sure is to reinstall.22:07
adamitschcould they got my certificates and passwords also ? (I was dumb having opened ssh port 22 with 4-letter password)22:07
rypervencheadamitsch: They have access to everything if they have root. You need to change your keys and everything that they had access to. Passwords and such. And I would change your SSH port as well on the new installation. And also start using SSH keys and disabling password logins.22:08
rypervencheadamitsch: So yes, get new certs as well.22:09
adamitschrypervenche: ok. thanks22:09
Bashing-ombacknforth: Using the fall back graphics " VESA " as the driver as could not load any thing better . How about removing amdgpu-PRO ; reboot and then see what we have ?22:10
backnforthBashing-om, I don't have an sh script to uninstall it22:11
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Bashing-ombacknforth: Yikkie. hiw did you install -PRO ? AMD : http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMDGPU-PRO-Install.aspx says just to run " amdgpu-pro-uninstall " .22:15
backnforthBashing-om, I installed the tar file. I couldn't find a comaptible deb for Ubuntu 17.1022:16
backnforthBashing-om, Ok, uninstalled22:17
Bashing-ombacknforth: great ! .// OK, reboot and lets see what we have ..22:18
backnforthBashing-om, ok22:20
backnforthrebooted22:20
Bashing-ombacknforth: and no joy ?22:20
backnforthlemme see22:20
Zythyrrypervenche I created a randomy key and added to LUKS. In crypttab, I added a keyscript called "unlock.sh". The unlock.sh just does "cat /etc/crypt.key". "crypt.key" is my unlock key. This does seem to work. On reboot, I am still asked for a password22:21
rypervencheZythyr: You don't need a script if you're just catting out the key. You can put the location of the key.22:22
Zythyrrypervenche Yes, I understand I can do location of key, but I am testing out to see if I can get it to work with keyscript instead of keyfile22:23
rypervencheZythyr: Gotcha.22:23
ramrebol_hello. I was not connected to internet during the install of ubuntu, how can I install now all the recomended third party software? (In particular, my wifi is not working, and I think that installing this could fix this problem)22:23
backnforthBashing-om, Same thing22:24
Bashing-omramrebol_: Easiest is to connect wired amd activate " additional Drivers " utility to intall wireless drivers .22:24
jecoHello. I'm experiecing system crashes for months. It is related to a unity crash. The issue in the system log is "Jan 28 20:08:04 jeco-pc kernel: [ 6010.512593] traps: unity-panel-ser[2115] general protection ip:406ea9 sp:7fff1c60dfc0 error:0 in unity-panel-service[400000+12000]"22:25
Bashing-ombacknforth: what shows ' dpkg -l xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu ' ?22:25
ramrebol_Bashing-om: thanks, I will prove that22:25
jecoI reported a question on launchpad, but no answer in weeks.22:25
jecowhat I'm supposed to do?22:26
backnforthBashing-om, https://hastebin.com/vuwuhavevo.sql22:26
Bashing-omramrebol_: Some of the WIFI drivers are proprietary .. will then have some hoops to jump through ( BCM ???) .22:26
Bashing-ombacknforth: Well, the driver is there and is installed . so back to if it is loaded .. ' sudo lshw -C display ' .22:28
backnforthBashing-om, https://hastebin.com/sofexubupe.pl22:28
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Bashing-ombacknforth: And no driver loaded .. what shows ' lsmod | grep amdgpu ' ?22:31
backnforthBashing-om, https://hastebin.com/yuwaxujima.pl22:32
Bashing-ombacknforth: Scratching my head . as the driver is available .. back soonest I have something to add .22:33
jecoI'm having a unity crash for months. After any panel button click the system becomes totally unresposive. My log points this issue: "Jan 28 20:08:04 jeco-pc kernel: [ 6010.512593] traps: unity-panel-ser[2115] general protection ip:406ea9 sp:7fff1c60dfc0 error:0 in unity-panel-service[400000+12000]". Has anybody have a clue?22:33
Zythyrrypervenche If my keyscript is as simple as "cat /etc/crypt.key", do I need to do anything else? Like do I need to make any changes to initiramfs?22:34
skyhey I just deleted my /etc/nginx/sites-available/default file, how can I restore it?22:35
skyor figure out what it was22:36
develIf you just freshly installed it i would go for apt-get purge nginx and apt-get install nginx22:38
develelse just google it, it's a config that provides information for your nginx webserver about sites hosted22:39
skyI was wondering if there is place to find the file to reinstall22:39
Zythyrrypervenche Ahh looks like it can be a bug https://askubuntu.com/questions/906870/luks-keyscript-being-ignored-asks-for-password22:40
rypervencheZythyr: The script has to be in the initramfs.22:41
skyjust apt-get purged nginx then apt-get isntalled nginx, still file not there22:41
rypervencheZythyr: AH yeah. I haven't done this kind of setup on Ubuntu.22:41
Zythyrrypervenche I remember reading somewhere that if I put the keyscript in /lib/cryptsetup/scripts/, then it automatically gets loaded into the initramfs22:42
krytariksky: 'nginx-common'22:43
skythanks22:44
skyguess I could have looked in that package22:44
Bashing-ombacknforth: OK, back, got a plan :)22:49
backnforthawesome22:49
catbadgerok I'm starting to sweat here.22:53
catbadgerok, so I rebooted into root console and added a user and added them to the sudo group. I can login directly to the console as that user, but can't ssh in as them. what gives?22:53
catbadgersshd says "invalid user"22:53
raidghostweird22:54
raidghostAnd how did you add them to sudo group?22:54
Bashing-ombacknforth: Run ' sudo apt purge amdgpu* ; sudo apt update; sudo apt full-upgrade ; sudo apt install --reinstall dkms ; sudo apt install xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu ; sudo apt install --reinstall libgl1-mesa-glx libgl1-mesa-dri xserver-xorg-core ; sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ; sudo update-initramfs -u ' . Re-boot again to see the effect :)22:54
catbadgerusermod -aG22:54
catbadgerthing is, this is my web server. it absolutely needs to have ssh access for management and coding22:55
jecoI'm having a systematic system crashes. Could someone, please, take a look at my question at https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/66317523:00
picklepicklehello23:02
picklepickleoops forgot to change my name23:02
backnforthHi, the restart didn't go well. I'm going a black screen, and my keyboard and mouse won't light up23:04
develon what system?23:05
backnforthcan someone ping the person I was talking to23:05
Bashing-ombacknforth: Ouch ! what in the world ? I can not see what re-installing the components to have had that result . can you boot to the F2 terminal from the login screen ?23:06
backnforthbashing-om, I can't get to the login screen23:07
Bashing-ombacknforth: Can you then boot to the grub boot menu and from there activate the root console ?23:08
catsoesh.23:08
backnforthbashing-om how do I do that?23:09
Bashing-ombacknforth: efi system ? reboot and as soon as the bios screen clears spam the escape key ; else legacy system hold down a shift key .23:10
develFrom my experience, bad kernel, so just boot with another one, from grub menu/reinstall your desktop enviroment, or try to start it from ctrl alt f623:10
develFrom my experience, either bad kernel, so just boot with another one, from grub menu/reinstall your desktop enviroment, or try to start it from ctrl alt f623:10
backnforthbashing-om, ok I'm in grub23:11
Bashing-ombacknforth: "advanced options" -> choose the latest recovery kernel.23:12
backnforthi don't see that as an option in grub23:13
Bashing-ombacknforth: Are you in the grub menu or at a grub > - prompt ?23:14
backnforthprompt23:14
filesjahjfdmy google skills are sucks. I need to disable the discrete nvidia gpu and force ubuntu to use the intel onboard gpu. I'm running a laptop 7700HQ and gtx 107023:16
Bashing-ombacknforth: the prompt from an attempt to activate a recovery kernel from the menu ? such that grub can not find it's config files ?23:16
backnforthit just says: grub>23:17
backnforthI never did anything since then23:17
Bashing-omfilesjahjfd: can you not use the GUI utlity 'nvidia-prime' to switch graphic's sets ?23:17
filesjahjfdBashing-om, no for what ever reason ubuntu crashes when I switch to the onboard gpu using nvidia-prime23:18
Bashing-ombacknforth: Is this an EFI endowed system ?23:18
backnforthnot sure if it booted from UEFI or not23:19
filesjahjfdis noveau.runpm=0 a proper call to the kernel ??23:19
backnforthit has both23:19
Bashing-omfilesjahjfd: filesjahjfd One should be able to turn off the nvidia driver in bios, but better why not find the cause of the issue ? what nvidia driver are you using for the 1070 card ?23:21
filesjahjfdBashing-om, i'm not using the nvidia-bios just the nouveau23:21
backnforthok23:21
backnforthit's because I was pressing ESC and delete too many times23:22
filesjahjfdBashing-om, I dualboot, and want to game on Windows.. So disabling it in Bios is a hassle23:22
backnforthdo you want me to go in recovery mode?23:22
Bashing-ombacknforth: Ouch -- I had not considered that "secure boot " ! that maybe the factor to prevent installing amdgpu-PRO , and messing things up ??23:23
backnforthI disabled secure boot23:23
backnforthI had it disabled23:23
DkeagleHi everybody23:28
Dkeaglei'm looking for a specific iso but i can't find it23:28
Bashing-ombacknforth: Hummm .. got me .. get to the grub boot menu ; and try and boot an older kernel ?23:29
backnforthok but which one23:29
backnforththere's recovery and non recovery mode23:29
Dkeaglei'm looking for the netboot installer of ubuntu server (16.04 or 17.10) for i38623:30
filesjahjfdmeh fuck iy23:30
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Bashing-omfilesjahjfd: Do not know , never attempted to disable the nvidia card before . maybe as simple as blacklisting the nouveau driver ?23:30
Bashing-ombacknforth: Just try an older normal kernel, does it boot ?23:31
Ben64Dkeagle: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/xenial-updates/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/23:31
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DkeagleBen64: that's the normal ubuntu, i'm looking for ubuntu server23:33
Ben64no, that's for everything23:33
Dkeagleso i need to download the mini.iso thing ?23:34
backnforthbashing-om, I'm stuck at the first thing that came up which shows lubuntu, an image, and 5 dots changing colours23:34
Dkeagleand how do i install ubuntu server with it ?23:34
Ben64you'd choose it23:34
ZythyrHow do I enable a systemd service that is on the system partitoin, but I am booted from a live USB23:35
Bashing-ombacknforth: Yukkie poo . At this point I do think a re-install is the bettr thing to do . And let the installer install the driver it thinks best .23:35
DkeagleBen64: i had test this one yesterday and i got a normal ubuntu on my PC, it never ask me anything...23:36
backnforthbashing-om, did you want to do some further diagnostics after that?23:36
Ben64Dkeagle: it asks many things23:36
Dkeagleyeah, it ask name, nickname, password, language, keyboard detection, etc, but i never had the choice for a server version or anyrthing23:37
Bashing-ombacknforth: Well, we can .. but that means from a full change root environment ..a lot of time and effort to see what we "might" be able to do . With no promise of a fix .23:37
ZythyrQuestion: If I create a service file in "/etc/systemd/system", is it enabled automatically?23:38
ramrebol_then to install ubuntu-restricted-extras  not appears the wifi option, how can I install it?23:38
backnforthbashing-om, ok I have about 3 hours23:38
ramrebol_(I did a fresh install of 16.04 version)23:38
Bashing-ombacknforth: Boot a liveUSB .. and boot to it's boot menu . choose " boot from first hard drive " ( assuming that ubuntu is installed to that 1st drive ) . what results ?23:40
backnforthBashing-om, oh ok how do I boot it's boot menu?23:41
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krytarikramrebol_: Bashing-om advised something else earlier - you might want to follow that.23:42
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Bashing-ombacknforth: as soon as the firmware screen clears . depress any key -> language screen; escape key to accept the default -> boot options screen .23:43
Necmhi23:43
NecmYou are using pip version 8.1.1, however version 9.0.1 is available.23:43
NecmYou should consider upgrading via the 'pip install --upgrade pip' command.23:43
NecmSuccessfully installed pip-9.0.123:43
Necmok :)23:43
ramrebol_krytarik: thanks, but I don't know how to follow that instruction :/23:44
backnforthBashing-om what do I do at the grub menu23:44
Bashing-ombacknforth: In the liveISB boot menu do you not see the option " boot from first hard drive ' ?23:46
Bashing-omliveUSB*23:46
catbadgersomehow an allowedgroups entry got into my config23:46
ramrebol_krytarik: backnforth  only said that I will have problems, or something else? I did not find his instruction23:46
catbadgerremoved the line from the config. boom. all good.23:46
DkeagleBen64: so, i tested your iso on Virtual machine23:47
Dkeaglei ask langage23:47
Dkeaglecountry, keyboard, etc23:47
backnforthBashing-om, I'm using the installer usb but at its grub boot menu I don't see anywhere that says boot from hard drive first23:47
Dkeaglename of computer, my real name, nickname23:48
Dkeaglepassword23:48
Dkeagleand it install23:48
krytarikramrebol_:  < Bashing-om> ramrebol_: Easiest is to connect wired amd activate " additional Drivers " utility to intall wireless drivers .23:48
Dkeagleit's normal ubuntu23:49
Dkeaglenot server...23:49
Dkeagledoes anyone have a link for "ubuntu server (16.04 or 17.10) net install for i386" ?23:51
Bashing-omDkeagle: http://releases.ubuntu.com/16.04/ .23:53
DkeagleBashing-om, those are the "normal" iso, i need the iso for net install23:54
Ben64Dkeagle: again, it asks you23:54
Ben64the mini iso can install anything23:54
DkeagleNo i don't, never, i tried on a VM and it's installing right now the normal ubuntu, it never ask me anything about the version i want to install23:55
DkeagleBashing-om, i need the mini iso because the computer i need to install only reads CD, and the normal iso is more than 700mo...23:56
akikDkeagle: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD23:56
Bashing-omDkeagle: Well, nother thought , the minimal install .iso will fit on a CD .23:57
DkeagleBashing-om, i know, but i can't find the mini iso for ubuntu SERVER23:58
kk4ewthttp://mirror.cc.vt.edu/pub/ubuntu/ubuntu/dists/xenial/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/mini.iso23:58
Dkeagleakik, it's the same iso than Ben64, and it install NORMAL ubuntu, not server23:58
Dkeaglekk4ewt, same23:58

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