[00:00] <DirtyCajun> setting it up now
[00:00] <DirtyCajun> ill dd to test speed
[00:00] <chrios> Both servers need to be on the same layer 2 segment
[00:00] <DirtyCajun> yeah they are
[00:00] <chrios> okay  cool
[00:00] <chrios> I'd be interested to see the speed test results
[00:01] <DirtyCajun> the negative i see is this will be great for the transfer but cannot REPLACE NFS as it looks like its similar to iscsi and cant be presented to multiple hosts simultaniously
[00:01] <chrios> yeah, it is only good for this transfer specifically
[00:01] <DirtyCajun> which is a great starting point hopefully
[00:05] <causative> my system has been hanging with "page allocation faults" since I upgraded from 17.04 to 17.10 - seems that it runs out of memory and immediately spends like 15 minutes generating page allocation faults and being unresponsive
[00:06] <causative> and then it recovers, however dmesg is too short to see the start of the issue, if there was something that started it other than a page allocation fault
[00:06] <DirtyCajun> chrios, this is crazy fasst
[00:06] <chrios> DirtyCajun: Did you get it set up? What sort of speeds are you seeing??
[00:06] <DirtyCajun> so i had an extra empty disk
[00:07] <DirtyCajun> i added it and did it the opposite direction so i could differentiate the speed
[00:07] <causative> dmesg only tracks around 3000 lines of error, that is only three minutes of errors and the hang lasts 15 minutes
[00:07] <DirtyCajun> its still going but a dd of 100 count of 1G files is averaging about 200Mbps
[00:08] <DirtyCajun> when its done ill paste the final MB/s
[00:08] <causative> what might be the problem and how can I get longer output from dmesg?
[00:08] <chrios> using NFS you were getting 1.1Gbps tho right?
[00:09] <DirtyCajun> i was getting 1.1Gbps TOTAL with 10 concurrent threads going
[00:09] <DirtyCajun> so 100Mbps per
[00:09] <chrios> oh okay. I wonder how this will handle the concurrent threads
[00:09] <DirtyCajun> it uses a LOT more cpu though it seems
[00:09] <DirtyCajun> 10% vs 1
[00:09] <chrios> I've never actually set up AoE before, so this is exciting for me
[00:10] <DirtyCajun> hahaha
[00:14] <causative> https://pastebin.com/VzuZkjFP here is what a typical error looks like, there are 4000 lines of this in dmesg but it gets cut off
[00:14] <causative> so really there are probably a lot more lines of it and possibly some initial unknown error starting the hang
[00:15] <causative> from the trace it looks like kthreadd might be trying and failing to create new threads? for some reason?
[00:15] <causative> also it runs out of swap even though I was looking at the swap graph when the problem initiated and no swap was used at that time
[00:15] <causative> so somehow it chewed through 4 gb of swap
[00:18] <causative> this time the problem occurred when I was running a tensorflow demo that uses a 500x500 array to simulate raindrops splashing in a pool, 500x500 should not be causing out of memory, but it's not a tensorflow problem
[00:18] <causative> because it's happened before when I was watching twitch
[00:20] <DirtyCajun> chrios
[00:20] <DirtyCajun> looks like regardless of blocksize you get about the same average speed
[00:20] <DirtyCajun> output:
[00:20] <DirtyCajun> dd bs=1M count=10000 if=/dev/zero of=/tv1/speedtest2 conv=fdatasync
[00:20] <DirtyCajun> 10485760000 bytes (10 GB, 9.8 GiB) copied, 304.97 s, 34.4 MB/s
[00:20] <DirtyCajun> dd if=/dev/zero of=/tv1/speedtest bs=100G count=1 oflag=direct
[00:20] <DirtyCajun> 12884901888 bytes (13 GB, 12 GiB) copied, 395.193 s, 32.6 MB/s
[00:22] <JoeLlama> 2nd Try: When I log in, ubuntu auto connects to wifi but it keeps asking for the password each time.  I read something about keyring being the issue.  What's the trick to fix?
[00:31] <Neo4> see it http://pix.toile-libre.org/?img=1517099113.png
[00:32] <Neo4> do I must be have to turn of swap?
[00:32] <Neo4> there empty swap file and therefore mysql is sucking
[00:37] <teward> !crosspost | Neo4
[00:51] <JoeLlama> 3rd and Last Try (seems like it's simple but perhaps it's a super hard question and no one has the answer): When I log in, ubuntu auto connects to wifi but it keeps asking for the password each time.  I read something about keyring being the issue.  What's the trick to fix?
[00:59] <hdpb> How do I add "quicklists" to icons in 17.10?
[01:02] <Zaxx81_> So not new to Linux, but new to adminstering a linux server. In terms of best practices, which folders should you install packages in for your server? There are two users that perform admin roles for this server.
[01:05] <JoeLlama> Okay well...  Thanks anyways guys :/
[01:10] <steven> mornings, is there somehow a clean way to install mysql5.6 on 16.04?
[01:13] <oerheks> steven, no https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mysql-5.7/ 5.6 is old and vulnerable
[01:13] <steven> I am asking for 5.6 because I need 5.6 :)
[01:14] <steven> I would use 5.7 if it was an option
[01:14] <oerheks> nope, not in our repos, maybe you can build it from source, but that would be unsupported
[01:15] <steven> thats ok, was just hoping there might be a way, imma have to figure something out then. thanks!
[01:15] <oerheks> for an old source, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mysql-5.6/
[01:15] <GuyL> Hi! I'm having a problem installing Ubuntu on an UP Board. Whenever I install Ubuntu 14.06 (I believe) from the ISO on my USB, everything works out succesfully. However, when rebooting, I go back to the GRUB as though the install never happened
[01:15] <GuyL> Just "trying ubuntu without installing" leaves me in a limbo where nothing even the terminal opens
[01:16] <GuyL> Anyone has any idea what I should do?
[01:16] <oerheks> trusty tahr is the old 14.04 ..
[01:16] <GuyL> It's 16.04 apparently
[01:17] <GuyL> Anyone?
[01:18] <siva_machina> 16.04 is the latest lts
[01:18] <cpined> hello, is it possible to use port 443 as an ssh port to access a server from an external pc?  I was able to do this on windows 7 using cygwin, but not on windows 10 or Ubuntu.
[01:19] <GuyL> (also, would there be a more appropriate place to ask my question?)
[01:19] <siva_machina> 18.04 the next lts should be out by the end of April
[01:19] <oerheks> GuyL, i find an special wiki for that up board + ubuntu, https://wiki.up-community.org/Ubuntu
[01:20] <oerheks> maybe that would be any help
[01:21] <oerheks> the PPA mentioned covers 14.04 and 16.04 https://launchpad.net/~ubilinux/+archive/ubuntu/up
[01:21] <GuyL> Hmm, I'll try writing those lines after a new install... Right now I'm checking disc for defects
[01:21] <GuyL> taking a long time
[01:22] <GuyL> No clue what a PPA is
[01:22] <oerheks> !ppa
[01:22] <GuyL> Would that be necessary
[01:23] <oerheks> reading that wiki, it looks like you do
[01:23] <GuyL> Here's what I've been following
[01:23] <GuyL> This is in the context of a RealSense Robotic Devkit
[01:23] <GuyL> https://01.org/developerjourney/recipe/intel-realsense-robotic-development-kit
[01:24] <GuyL> I'd like to stick to that, but after step 4 (the install) I reboot and the install is just not there
[01:24] <GuyL> I don't want to try anything that wouldn't work with the camera yknow\
[01:26] <oerheks> i see they use the same ppa with step 5 ..
[01:27] <oerheks> not sure why it does not boot, your guide says it should
[01:27] <GuyL> hmmmmmm
[01:27] <GuyL> Disc has no defectw
[01:27] <GuyL> Im stressed (I need to finish this today.....)
[01:28] <GuyL> defects*
[01:28] <GuyL> and trying those sudo command in the grub or the shell doesn't work
[01:28] <GuyL> Do you know what could be happening right now?
[01:28] <GuyL> (or other live support places I could go to?)
[01:29] <oerheks> GuyL, did you select 'Download updates' as the writer did not select that?
[01:29] <GuyL> No didn't have that option
[01:29] <GuyL> I did another install and in that one I might've... but nothing changed
[01:30] <GuyL> I basically did everything the writer did, except at some point I got a textbox he didn't
[01:30] <GuyL> I'll try the install again so I can tell you what it is..
[01:30] <oerheks> oke, that might be the culprit, not sure what else could be responcible
[01:35] <GuyL> any way to remove this dumb disconnect message spam
[01:35] <GuyL> ill link you a picture, is that fine?
[01:36] <GuyL> https://i.imgur.com/0dmwx4n.jpg
[01:36] <GuyL> Here
[01:37] <GuyL> (are there more people here to help usually?)
[01:39] <GuyL> oerheks?
[01:41] <GuyL> oeeerheeeeks
[01:44] <GuyL> why is this empty :(
[01:46] <bobsmith83> Question:  I have a syslog growing quickly out of control and filling my SSD.  I'm looking at this page for help at the moment:  https://askubuntu.com/questions/184949/how-do-i-limit-the-size-of-my-syslog
[01:48] <Bashing-om> bobsmith83: What one does is "look" at the log and see what is the cause of the spam  and correct the issue .
[01:48] <bobsmith83> Can someone help me review my  /etc/logrotate.d/rsyslog and see if its set up right? I'd like to set a size limit first, then proceed to testing and see if i can find out whats filling it so quick
[01:49] <bobsmith83> oh, so helpful bashing! ty so much indeed!
[01:49] <bobsmith83> how would an idiot like me actually LOOK at a ZLOG?
[01:49] <bobsmith83> plz enlighten me
[01:51] <Bashing-om> bobsmith83: Pastebin the peace of the syslog that is repeating so, see what we can read into it .
[01:53] <bobsmith83> lets say my syslog is 100GB, how can I open it?
[01:55] <Bashing-om> bobsmith83: Try ' less /var/log/syslog ' . See if less can load that large of a file .
[01:55] <GuyL> If oerheks comes back: looks as though my problem's fixed for now. Thanks anyways :)
[02:01] <bobsmith83> will the less app read .gz? looks like the system is purging older syslogs as it should per /etc/logrotate.d/rsyslog...
[02:02] <dax> bobsmith83: no, but zless will
[02:04] <bobsmith83> thx dax...  looking at it now...
[02:08] <bobsmith83> gstsystemclock: write control failed in wakeup_async, trying again: 11:Resource temporarily unavailable
[02:09] <bobsmith83> seems to be the repeating theme...
[02:09] <bobsmith83> and :  gst_poll_write_control: assertion 'set != NULL' failed
[02:14] <Bashing-om> bobsmith83: New one on me .. no idea off the top of my head.. Others heer will advise better .
[02:16] <bobsmith83> i suspect tux paint kids program might be cause, that's what we were using last...
[02:16] <bobsmith83> might need to test again.
[02:17] <bobsmith83> I'd still like to set a size limit in my /etc/logrotate.d/rsyslog  How do i do that?
[02:21] <tomreyn> bobsmith83: maxsize, see the 'logrotate' man page for further details.
[02:21] <phillijw> is there a way I can avoid using add-apt-repository? It seems kind of silly that it has two dependencies
[02:21] <ignatius_> Just did an upgrade from 16.04 to 17.10, whatever the session manager is called works, but when I log in, black screen then back to login window... should I run a config tool or something?
[02:22] <tomreyn> bobsmith83: this will not solve the issue of many writes to the syslog, though
[02:22] <tomreyn> (nor the root cause, of course)
[02:22] <dongcarl> I'm wondering where I can find clang-cpp on Ubuntu? I installed clang and only got clang and clang++
[02:23] <bobsmith83> understood.  but it will solve the symptom of my SSD filling up
[02:23] <bobsmith83> i dont know why the maxsize isnt set by default already
[02:23] <tomreyn> because you loose possibly relevant history, i would think
[02:24] <bobsmith83> what shall i set it too? and do i just add a line into /etc/logrotate.d/rsyslog and save it?
[02:24] <tomreyn> compressed logs are going to be small either way
[02:24] <tomreyn> set it to what you consider to be suitable, and after saving the file, restart rsyslogd
[02:25] <Bashing-om> ignatius_: Sounds like the proprietary graphic's driver broke in the upgrade process. Is this nvidia for the GPU ?
[02:25] <GuyL> oerheks
[02:25] <GuyL> nvm, thought I was typing in ctrl+f, sorry
[02:25] <bobsmith83> how do i restart rsyslog?
[02:26] <ignatius_> Bashing-om: yep nvidia card...\
[02:26] <tomreyn> bobsmith83: sudo service rsyslog restart
[02:26] <bobsmith83> thx
[02:26] <tomreyn> bobsmith83: which ubuntu release is this? lsb_release -sd
[02:27] <Bashing-om> ignatius_: K; at the login screen - key combo ctl+alt+F2 to gain a console interface, can you log into the system here ?
[02:28] <bobsmith83> latest LTS
[02:28] <bobsmith83> 16.04 i thinks
[02:28] <ignatius_> Bashing-om: yep.
[02:28] <tomreyn> bobsmith83: if you'll run the command i provided you'll know for sure.
[02:29] <bobsmith83> Ubuntu 16.04.3 LTS
[02:29] <tomreyn> bobsmith83: which web browser do you use?
[02:29] <bobsmith83> firefox
[02:29] <ignatius_> Bashing-om: Do I want nvidia-384?
[02:30] <tomreyn> bobsmith83: hmm okay then i don't know. searching for your error messages i only came across this https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/gstreamer-bugs/2016-February/168455.html
[02:31] <tomreyn> bobsmith83: gst (as in 'gstsystemclock' and 'gst_poll_write_control') stands for "gstreamer", which is the gtk (gnome graphical toolkit) way of handling a/V media
[02:32] <tomreyn> bobsmith83: actually it's not GTK related, i was wrong
[02:33] <tomreyn> bobsmith83: it's still a multi media library, though, used by chrommium (chrome), several audio and video players, and other applications which handle audio and video. i'm not sure about firefox.
[02:33] <tomreyn> bobsmith83: still, it's very unusual that these messages would end up on your syslog.
[02:34] <bobsmith83> agreed
[02:34] <Bashing-om> ignatius_: Well, if ya willing to take a stab in the dark that it is the graphic's driver; - *secure boot* disabled and run ' sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf ; sudo pirge nvidia* ; sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall ; reboot to see the effect .
[02:35] <ignatius_> Nice. Thanks.
[02:35] <tomreyn> bobsmith83: are you using any PPAs?
[02:36] <bobsmith83> PPA?
[02:36] <Bashing-om> ignatius_: ** sudo purge nvidia* - typo ^
[02:36] <tomreyn> !ppa | bobsmith83
[02:36] <tomreyn> bobsmith83: ...or non-packaged software?
[02:37] <bobsmith83> I've installed some apps from software center, and some thru apt-get...
[02:38] <bobsmith83> I added the graphics driver from "additional drivers" but reverted back to the free driver...
[02:38] <Deihmos> 4k monitors on ubuntu is kind of bad
[02:39] <phillijw> 1080p monitors on ubuntu is kind of bad
[02:44] <snufft> Hi everyone :) I've got a 16.04 install which has developed what looks like a graphics problem. I can boot to
[02:44] <Bashing-om> Deihmos: Maybe of some help: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/HiDPI .
[02:45] <snufft> The login screen and can successfully log in, but the desktop never shows and is just covered in artifacts instead. At the same time, error reports start popping up in the to left, once after the other, quicker than I can click on them to to anything.
[02:45] <Deihmos> The unity desktop not included
[02:46] <snufft> I've tried booting previous kernels, but the result is the same, regardless
[02:46] <tomreyn> bobsmith83: okay, this sounds entirely standard. something must be non-standard since there are so little search results for the error messages you provided.
[02:46] <Deihmos> The scaling is either 100 200 300
[02:46] <Deihmos> No option to custom scale
[02:46] <snufft> If anyone would be willing to hold my hand for a bit, that would be awesome because I have nfi where to even start with this one, haha
[02:46] <Bashing-om> snufft: At the login screen, Key combo ctl+alt+F2 to gain a comsole interface, can you log into the system here ?
[02:48] <bobsmith83> yup.
[02:48] <bobsmith83> its alittle unusual hardware, i guess.  lenovo ideacenter a730 all-in-one touchscreen...
[02:48] <snufft> Bashing-om yes, I'm logged in there now :)
[02:49] <bobsmith83> its dual booted with windows 7
[02:51] <Bashing-om> snufft: Run ' sudo lshw -C display | nc termbin.com 9999 ' the result is a URL back in terminal, pass that link back here and we see what we have to work with .
[02:52] <tomreyn> bobsmith83: hmm no i don't thinkt he hardware explains it. but i guess without further information it will not be possible to look into this more.
[02:52] <snufft> Bashing-om http://termbin.com/g51g
[02:53] <bobsmith83> i will try to repeat the problem and report back later.  any other suggested troubleshooting steps?
[02:54] <tomreyn> bobsmith83: try to find the first occurrence of the messages you quoted on your syslog and check the surrounding messages, since it might help identify the root cause.
[02:55] <tomreyn> bobsmith83: i will be gone later, but when you get to talk to someone else, be sure to put their nickname in front of what you type here, so they'll know you addressed them.
[02:55] <bobsmith83> tomreyn: thank you for your help
[02:56] <tomreyn> bobsmith83: i just read that the 'pidgin' software might also be emitting those messages.
[02:56] <tomreyn> welcome
[02:58] <Bashing-om> snufft: Well, AMD graphics, and the correct driver is loaded . I do not know much else that I can do , If ya boot into the guest account is the GUI functional there ? Maybe this is a user session config issue ?
[03:01] <snufft> Bashing-om I just had a go at the guest session and it starts out the same, but then ends in a blue screen with no errors, but no desktop 😂
[03:01] <bobsmith83> i never use an IM such as pidgin, but something else might be calling it i guess
[03:04] <snufft> Bashing-om those popup error messages, do they normally print to a log file somewhere?
[03:08] <Bashing-om> snufft: error reporting . in your home directory is the log file " .xsession-errors " also might see that the journal has . And maybe we can install the amdgou driver ?? what shows : lspci -k | grep -EA2 'VGA|3D' ?
[03:09] <Bashing-om> amdgpu* driver .
[03:15] <snufft> Bashing-om .xsession-errors is empty :( lspci output is:  01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Tahiti XT Radeon HD 7970/8970 OEM / R9 280X  Subsystem: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd Tahiti XT Radeon HD 7970/8970 OEM / R9 280X] kernel driver in use: radeon
[03:21] <snufft> Bashing-om maybe the card is on the way out?
[03:28] <Bashing-om> snufft: Here we need someone with AMD experience - Natbe ine can run amdpro with that card ?? : https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amdgpu-rad-49&num=1 . I do not know the differene to Tahiti-pro driver .
[03:29] <Bashing-om> Maybe one can run amdgpu driver **
[03:34] <moussa> set
[03:35] <moussa> set
[03:35] <moussa> oops
[03:45] <snufft> Bashing-om article looks promising. I'll give it a shot. Thanks for all of your help :)
[03:45] <snufft> Bashing-om++
[03:47] <Bashing-om> snufft: Proceed with caution, as I am not convinced the amdgpu driver will work .
[04:01] <Shelby_> So upgrded from 16.04 and  get into gdm3 fine but  don't have the gear by the password box and when  login it just goes black then back to gdm?
[04:10] <snufft> Bashing-om no worries, will do :) Thanks again for your help :)
[04:18] <phillijw> can anyone help me get this script working? I am failing horribly: https://github.com/phillijw/ynab/blob/master/Dockerfile
[04:19] <Bashing-om> snufft: Too : see: https://wiki.debian.org/AtiHowTo the firmware section . make sure the firmware is installed .
[04:21] <psyrus> has anyone had any luck installing GNOME gui in kubuntu using synaptic package manager?
[04:55] <Zythyr> Need help. I am running a Ubuntu live USB. How do I check if its running in UEFI mode or BIOS legacy mode?
[04:58] <Zythyr> nvm ignore the question, i found soluiton https://askubuntu.com/questions/162564/how-can-i-tell-if-my-system-was-booted-as-efi-uefi-or-bios
[05:00] <Zythyr> Need help. I created a live USB for Ubuntu 16 Desktop. When I connect to my Dell Latitude 2120, it just boots to a black screen with a blinking cursor. Why is it doing that? I think this ssytem supports UEFI mode because when I go to BIOS, I see the mouse curor which I think is an indicatoion of UEFI support
[05:01] <phillijw> what the heck is this command doing and why doesnt it work in 16.04? localedef -v -c -i en_US -f UTF-8 en_US.UTF-8 || :
[05:02] <phillijw> it gives me this: character map file `UTF-8' not found: No such file or directory
[05:03] <Menzador> Desktop or server?
[05:03] <Menzador> phillijw - ^ ?
[05:04] <phillijw> its a docker container so just a slimmed down base version? So maybe neither?
[05:04] <tanuki> I'm having an issue with Server 17.10. now that it's installed, I get a character typed on the console every second or so, even with no keyboard attached.
[05:05] <Menzador> Best thing to do is uncomment the en_US.UTF-8 line in /etc/locale.gen (with sudo) and then run [ sudo locale-gen ]
[05:05] <tanuki> It doesn't appear to happen in other OSes
[05:05] <Menzador> tanuki - What character?
[05:06] <tanuki> It shows up as ^@
[05:09] <phillijw> Menzador: since this is docker, is there a way to do that via a command?
[05:09] <phillijw> no interaction
[05:15] <Bashing-om> !nomodeset | Zythyr
[05:15] <Menzador> phillijw - You can't run nano?
[05:16] <phillijw> Menzador: are you familiar with docker? It's an automated script that sets up the machine with no user interaction
[05:16] <Menzador> Oh OK, you're using a script
[05:16] <tanuki> Any idea what could be causing this?
[05:16] <phillijw> Menzador: here's the script if you're interested https://github.com/phillijw/ynab/blob/master/Dockerfile
[05:17] <Zythyr> Bashing-om ubottu I am not even getting to an option where I can type "nomodeset" kernal parameter. When PC boots, I see the Dell logo, then it boots from USB, but directly I see a black screen with blinking curor. I never saw the Ubuntu menu
[05:17] <Zythyr> I used Rufus to make the USB
[05:21] <Bashing-om> Zythyr: At the purple splash screen (stick figure keyboard emblems at bottom of screen) -> hit any key ->
[05:21] <Bashing-om> Language screen -> escape key to accept the default ->
[05:22] <Bashing-om> Booting options screen -> F6 key
[05:22] <Menzador> phillijw - it seems to spit out a tonne of errors.
[05:22] <Zythyr> Bashing-om Thats the problem, I never even get to the purple screen
[05:24] <Bashing-om> Zythyr: Ouch .. did you verfy the .iso download ? http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows .
[05:29] <Guddu> Ubuntu live CD is not working. Freezes on the Ubuntu logo. What could be wrong?
[05:29] <Guddu> Something to do with some BIOS option?
[05:30] <Guddu> I created the USB in Rufus using GPT option
[05:32] <Zythyr> Bashing-om Yes, the ISO is fine I have used the same ISO on multiple other PCs
[05:40] <Bashing-om> Zythyr: EFI machine, try as soon as the bios screen clears spamming the escape key .
[05:42] <Zythyr> Bashing-om ubottu I managed to boot to purple screen on but only way I was able to get there is if I create the live USB using "MBR partition scheme for BIOS or UEFI" when I use Rufus. I don't get to the purple screen if I use GPT partition
[05:43] <HeeHaw5130> I need help with a USB optical mouse not working. Any takers?
[05:44] <tanuki> Goddammit. Reinstalled and the same happened.
[05:44] <tanuki> I get a "^@" every second or so getting typed.
[05:45] <ubuntu-mate> Wasup?
[05:46] <HeeHaw5130> Optical mouse is a RadioShack brand (actual manufacturer: PixArt). Judging by dmesg, the kernel actually picks it up. However, the mouse still won't work.
[05:46] <ubuntu-mate> Wheres the channel to just talk at random?
[05:48] <Guddu> Ubuntu live USB is not working. Freezes on the Ubuntu logo after i select the try withou installling option. What could be wrong?
[05:49] <Guddu> Something to do with some BIOS option?
[05:49] <Zythyr> Bashing-om Using the ESC key didn't help.
[05:49] <ubuntu-mate> Guddu, what are the specs of your PC?
[05:50] <Zythyr> Bashing-om Its funny that BIOS has a "Enable legacy USB emulation" option. Is it safe to assume that this mean my BIOS supports UEFI?
[05:50] <HeeHaw5130> ......Woof?
[05:51] <ubuntu-mate> Guddu, what are your Specs on the PC?
[05:51] <Guddu> ubuntu-mate, Its a ASUS ROG GL552VW laptop
[05:51] <Guddu> https://www.asus.com/ROG-Republic-Of-Gamers/ROG-GL552VW/
[05:51] <ubuntu-mate> Ram and CPU please, also any GPU
[05:52] <ubuntu-mate> opening now
[05:52] <Guddu> ubuntu-mate, 16GB RAM
[05:53] <ubuntu-mate> thats alot of ram, is the CPU i386 or 64bit?
[05:53] <ubuntu-mate> (link not wanting to open)
[05:54] <Guddu> ubuntu-mate, 64Bit
[05:55] <ubuntu-mate> Alright, what type of CPU? like, whats the name of it?
[05:56] <Guddu> ubuntu-mate, Intel® Core™ i7 6700HQ Processor,
[05:56] <Guddu> ubuntu-mate, NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 960M
[05:56] <ubuntu-mate> ...thats not bad.. the onlything i THINK may be an issue is the GPU but that shouldnt be a problem...
[05:57] <ubuntu-mate> try CTRL+ALT+F1 and try that
[05:57] <love> 123
[05:57] <love> nihao
[05:57] <love> hallo
[05:58] <EriC^^> hi
[05:58] <Bashing-om> Zythyr: I too would assume that efi booting would be available .
[06:00] <Guddu> ubuntu-mate, CTRL-ALT-F1 where? On the frozen screen?
[06:04] <Zythyr> Bashing-om I jsut got off the phone with Dell. Appranelty they are saying that it doesn't support UEFI mode. Thats weird because the BIOS has a mouse curous for me to navigate with. I recall someone telling me in the past that if BIOS has a mouse cursor, then it supports UEFI mode
[06:05] <Random832> Zythyr, it doesn't really seem like those two things would be connected other than in a very general 'progression of more advanced bios features' way
[06:06] <Bashing-om> Zythyr: Have not heard that .. But lots I have not heard ,
[06:07] <Zythyr> Assuming my system doesn't support UEFI booting, is there any drawback of running a Ubuntu Server is legacy mode?
[06:09] <Bashing-om> Zythyr: Just that efi supports a larger block size and is a tad faster in file exercises .
[06:13] <Zythyr> larger block size? What does this mean/
[06:14] <Zythyr> Also, when I install Ubuntu, will I be able to use GPT partition scheme?
[06:15] <Ben64> yes
[06:15] <Guddu> Could someone please help?
[06:17] <Guddu> Ubuntu live USB is not working. Freezes on the Ubuntu logo after i select the try withou installling option. What could be wrong?
[06:17] <Guddu> Something to do with some BIOS option?
[06:18] <Bashing-om> Zythyr: 4096 as the sector size as opposed to 512 .
[06:24] <Zythyr> ahh ok
[06:24] <bruce_a> there
[06:24] <Zythyr> thanks
[06:25] <bruce_a> anybody here ??
[06:26] <ExploitedKernel> Hi
[06:36] <mike7> #!/usr/bin/python
[06:36] <mike7> a = raw_input("type a number:")
[06:36] <mike7> a = a + 1
[06:36] <mike7> print (a)
[06:36] <mike7> what is wrong?
[06:37] <mike7> File "./prueba.py", line 3, in <module>
[06:37] <mike7>     a = a + 1
[06:37] <mike7> TypeError: cannot concatenate 'str' and 'int' objects
[06:46] <Guddu> mike7, raw_input converts the input to string. And you cannnot concatenate str and int
[06:47] <tanuki> TL;DR: wrap the raw_input() call in int().
[06:48] <tanuki> Or float() if you need one.
[06:54] <mike7> Guddu: thanks a lot
[06:54] <mike7> i changed to input( ) and it works good
[06:54] <mike7> i wanna work only in python3 and forget python2
[06:54] <mike7> im in linux
[06:54] <mike7> how can i change it?
[06:54] <mike7> i tryied apt-get install python3 and apt-get remove python2, but it doesnt work
[06:55] <mike7> tanuki: thanks
[06:59] <causative> with the new launcher in 17.10 at the left (what is the name for it btw?) is there any way I can configure it so if I have multiple of an app open, and I click on the icon in the launcher, it automatically switches to the most recently open window of that app, instead of making me click a second time to select it?
[07:00] <causative> also I find that alt-tab brings all windows of a given application to the front, and I'd prefer if it only brought forward the most recent window
[07:01] <mike7> im learning python, do i should learn first shell scripting?
[07:01] <hggdh> mike7: python3 is installed by default on newer Ubuntus. /usr/bin/python is python V2.7, /usr/bin/python3 is what it says
[07:01] <mike7> hggdh: so i should change the shebang?
[07:02] <mike7> to python3
[07:02] <hggdh> mike7: if you want python3, yes.
[07:03] <hggdh> mike7: also: you do not *need* to learn shell (scripting) but if you are working on Linux/UNIX, it will help a lot.
[07:04]  * hggdh goes to bed
[07:04] <mike7> hggdh: thanks
[07:05] <mike7> i already changed to python3 in my shebang , but my script started to have problems
[07:05] <mike7> Traceback (most recent call last):
[07:05] <mike7>   File "./prueba.py", line 3, in <module>
[07:05] <mike7>     a = a + 1
[07:05] <mike7> TypeError: must be str, not int
[07:05] <senaps> i have zsh, in all desktops that i have, if i cd into a folder, open open a file name, and insert it's name misspelled, or the actual file has Capital words in it and i enter lower-case it fixes my input. i don't have it in my newly installed zsh. how would i enable it? i didn't find anything in .zhrc file!
[07:05] <mike7> and when i put without 3 in shebang, it works good
[07:07] <mike7> #!/usr/bin/python3
[07:07] <mike7> a = input("type a number:")
[07:07] <mike7> a = a + 1
[07:07] <mike7> print (a)
[07:09] <Zythyr> Question: I am installing Ubuntu on a system that does NOT support UEFI. However, the HDD will have GPT partition scheme. In the future, I plan on transfering the HDD to another system that will support UEFI mode. What will I need to do to take advtange of UEFI when I move the HDD to new system?
[07:13] <mike7> maybe is not neccesary shell scripting, i can jump it, and going to python quickly, but if im learning i think it will teach me the base to understand linux and python, right? i mean when you learn language it helps to another, right?
[07:13] <lotuspsychje> !uefi | Zythyr
[07:13] <mike7> i mean its not about programming, but it will helps to understand linux
[07:14] <mike7> is it good idea ? to start first with shell scripting
[07:14] <ducasse> Zythyr: you will need an efi partition, and you will need to switch to the right grub when on the new machine
[07:18] <Zythyr> ducasse So will it be as simple as formatting the BIOS parition and installing GRUB on it leaving the system and data partition untouched?
[07:19] <ducasse> Zythyr: the efi partition needs to be bigger than a bios partition
[07:20] <Zythyr> Ahh I found this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[07:21] <Zythyr> ducasse Can I make my BIOS partition ~600MB even though it dones't need to be that big expecting that in the future I will switch to UEFI?
[07:22] <ducasse> Zythyr: sure
[07:23] <ducasse> Zythyr: but 600m is overkill, 100 is plenty
[07:24] <JoeLlama> Is it possible to do an "in-place" upgrade of ubuntu without having to backup and reinstall data?
[07:24] <lotuspsychje> JoeLlama: upgrades always preserve your /home
[07:24] <JoeLlama> thanks :)
[07:24] <lotuspsychje> JoeLlama: but wisely, the users should make backups externally at all times
[07:25] <JoeLlama> so do not select erase option..
[07:25] <JoeLlama> yes backups are good
[07:25] <cfhowlett> JoeLlama, of course ... usually followed by "OMG!  I need to restore lost data!"
[07:25] <JoeLlama> the data is not worth anything
[07:25] <JoeLlama> just was curious
[07:25] <cfhowlett> ahh.  different.  then punch that upgrade!
[07:25] <JoeLlama> is that under the "do something else" option?
[07:26] <JoeLlama> I'll figure it out
[07:26] <cfhowlett> JoeLlama, "do something else" = manually partitioning
[07:26] <JoeLlama> oh.,..
[07:26] <JoeLlama> so then wait lemme look
[07:26] <JoeLlama> well I don't see upgrade
[07:27] <JoeLlama> I see "erase disk and install ubuntu"
[07:27] <JoeLlama> encrypt new install
[07:27] <cfhowlett> JoeLlama, you're in a live boot session?  then you won't see it.  "in-place upgrade" is launched from the current install.
[07:27] <JoeLlama> use LVM
[07:27] <JoeLlama> and "something else"
[07:28] <JoeLlama> hrm o k well I suppose I'll see it when it pops up
[07:31] <JoeLlama> so what do I select, erase hard drive? or will it say something else since I always have a filesystem in place?
[07:32] <ducasse> JoeLlama: you boot your ubuntu install and run the upgrade there
[07:32] <JoeLlama> oh ok then I'll see it
[07:32] <JoeLlama> I really like ubuntu
[07:32] <JoeLlama> windows really sux
[07:33] <anand> jojijji
[07:34] <JoeLlama> on these little boxes using an atom 1.6G they will play large videos nicely without added hardware and on another box, same processor and a broadcom crystal video processor it's still a little glitchy
[07:34] <Zythyr> ducasse This guide is saying to have EFI partition size of 550 MB https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManualFullSystemEncryption/DetailedProcessPartitionFormatEncrypt
[07:34] <JoeLlama> crystalHD
[07:34] <anand> hello
[07:35] <anand> anybody there
[07:36] <JoeLlama> no anand all 1439 other users are not here
[07:36] <ducasse> Zythyr: that might be, you could need it if you are going to install other operating systems or linux distros in addition to ubuntu. with just ubuntu you won't need that much.
[07:39] <Zythyr> ducasse Ahh oka
[07:39] <JoeLlama> I applied for a job at Microsoft but they said I wasn't qualified.  I had no ability to write slow and bloated code :(
[07:39] <Zythyr> Is the BIOS boot parition FAT32? In this article it says EFI partition is FAT32 but doens't say anything about BIOS boot parition
[07:40] <ducasse> Zythyr: iirc the bios partition does not need to be formatted at all
[07:42] <lotuspsychje> !ask | anand
[07:43] <Zythyr> ducasse So its is just empty space?
[07:44] <ducasse> Zythyr: grub writes to it without requiring a filesystem
[07:46] <anand> need food
[07:47] <cfhowlett> anand, check your channel.  this is ubuntu support.
[07:52] <JoeLlama> o k !  I have the ubuntu installation iso file.  How do I install that to USB flash?
[07:53] <lotuspsychje> !usb | JoeLlama
[07:53] <JoeLlama> cool thanks :) well I don't have it on flash drive yet but I look
[07:54] <JoeLlama> oh ok so I don't have to install the iso file I just copy it?  things have gotten too easy for you guys :/
[07:55] <sirru5h> Howdy Everyone
[07:55] <Zythyr> ducasse If only 1MB needed for BIOS boot parition, so basically right now I should create a "EFI" parition of around 500MB and leaving 1MB space before it? And basically this 500MB EFI parititon won't be used at all until when I switch to UEFI mode where I will format the EFI partition and install GRUB?
[07:56] <ducasse> Zythyr: just create the efi partition right away, and use it as a bios partition until you are ready to move to the new machine
[08:04] <JoeLlama> ubottu "operating system not found" so apparently it's not as easy as just copying the file.  I will re-read... any ideas?
[08:04] <JoeLlama> oh
[08:04] <JoeLlama> crap
[08:04] <JoeLlama> ok ok
[08:05] <JoeLlama> anyone know how to install the ISO file to flash?
[08:05] <sirru5h> What OS are you using to write the file?
[08:06] <JoeLlama> oh never mind :) found it :) heh
[08:06] <JoeLlama> thanks sirru5h though
[08:06] <sirru5h> lol okay I didn't no if I should have a Windows or a linux tutorial
[08:06] <sirru5h> Good luck
[08:07] <JoeLlama> yup thanks just had to actually read something (:\
[08:12] <JoeLlama> ok lost again sirru5h
[08:12] <JoeLlama> I guess I need usb creator
[08:13] <JoeLlama> sirru5h
[08:13] <ducasse> are you doing this on linux or windows?
[08:13] <JoeLlama> linux
[08:13] <JoeLlama> I am reading a tutorial
[08:14] <hosas> does anyone here knows the equivalent of rwsnoop on linux?
[08:14] <JoeLlama> ducasse  :)
[08:15] <ducasse> JoeLlama: i would just use dd from a command line, but you can use gnome-disks
[08:16] <EriC^^> +1 dd
[08:17] <JoeLlama> hrm ok ducasse and how is that done?
[08:17] <JoeLlama> looks like I need Startup Disk Creator ducasse
[08:17] <EriC^^> sudo dd if=/path/to/iso of=/dev/sdX bs=4M status=progress && sync   (where /dev/sdX is the device name from 'sudo parted -ls'
[08:18] <JoeLlama> hrm... and all I want to do is use the ISO file to create the USB flash it shouldn't be this hard :/
[08:18] <EriC^^> it isn't hard
[08:18] <JoeLlama> oh ok EriC^^ :)
[08:18] <EriC^^> :)
[08:19] <JoeLlama> um... ok so go to terminal right? here I go :)
[08:19] <EriC^^> yup
[08:19] <JoeLlama> neat
[08:20] <JoeLlama> um... ok I obviously have no clue EriC^^ :(\
[08:21] <JoeLlama> ah well I'll install the iso another way
[08:21] <EriC^^> JoeLlama: did you type 'sudo parted -ls' ?
[08:21] <JoeLlama> yeah and it said the user name as not in the file thingy
[08:22] <JoeLlama> so like brb
[08:22] <JoeLlama> gunna do it another way
[08:22] <EriC^^> JoeLlama: huh
[08:23] <EriC^^> JoeLlama: you should probably fix this problem first then
[08:23] <JoeLlama> yeah
[08:23] <JoeLlama> probably
[08:23] <JoeLlama> lemme just get the ISO into the flash first :)
[08:24] <EriC^^> usb creator sucks kind of, it doesn't work a lot of the time
[08:24] <EriC^^> ok
[08:26] <JoeLlama> I just use Rufus :P
[08:26] <JoeLlama> yay! :)
[08:29] <EriC^^> nice
[08:33] <Zythyr> ducasse Thanks for the help :)
[08:35] <nirnakern> nirnakern
[08:36] <Jibblit> Hey all, hope you are having a good evening.
[08:36] <Jibblit> Can anyone explain MAAS?
[08:37] <cfhowlett> "metal as a service"  google or wikipedia is a better tutor than this support channel
[08:37] <Neo4> Jibblit: do you men this https://maas.io/index2?utm_expid=.-9HoJQVJQvy8JWjBxJYSpQ.1&utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com.ua%2F
[08:38] <Neo4> Jibblit: it looks like google drive
[08:39] <Jibblit> Its cloud computing w/ ubuntu yes?
[08:40] <lotuspsychje> !maas | Jibblit
[08:44] <Jibblit> It's for if you own physical machines and wanted to manage them, or combine them to run things?
[08:45] <Neo4> Jibblit: might be you can put in cloud image of ubuntu and then install that image on any server in internet rapidly
[08:49] <Neo4> Jibblit: like cloud docker you put there docker image and then that image available on your VPS, I don't know all details, Main sense easy and fast install from cloud something. ti must be but this is not exactly :)
[08:49] <Neo4> Jibblit: watch video description for fast overview https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHfaiKlUYsM
[08:52] <JoeLlama> OK OK ducasse I got the ISO installed to flash but it says it requires a x86-64 CPU but detects an i686 CPU UNABLE TO BOOT
[08:53] <JoeLlama> I must have gotten the wrong kernel ducasse :(
[08:53] <lotuspsychje> JoeLlama: you need the right architecture for your system
[08:53] <JoeLlama> any idea where to get the right one?
[08:53] <JoeLlama> well this has a previous version of ubuntu on it
[08:53] <EriC^^> JoeLlama: that means it's a 32bit pc
[08:53] <JoeLlama> and it works great
[08:53] <JoeLlama> yeah okay where can I get the 32 bit version?
[08:54] <lotuspsychje> JoeLlama: for wich ubuntu version?
[08:54] <JoeLlama> oh I dunno lemme boot up and check
[08:54] <lotuspsychje> JoeLlama: 17.10 and higher dropped 32bit support
[08:54] <lotuspsychje> JoeLlama: you dont know wich ubuntu iso you downloaded?
[08:54] <cfhowlett> JoeLlama, xubuntu or lubuntu are available in 32 bit
[08:55] <JoeLlama> oh thanks cfhowlett
[08:55] <JoeLlama> so like I need to get one of those I guess
[08:55] <JoeLlama> hold on booting up
[08:55] <EriC^^> or get ubuntu 16.04
[08:55] <JoeLlama> oh ok EriC^^
[08:55] <JoeLlama> is that my best bet?
[08:55] <JoeLlama> ubuntu 16.04?
[08:55] <EriC^^> yeah lts is a good way to go
[08:56] <cfhowlett> 16.04 is long term support.  IMHO, LTS is the sanest method for 99% of users
[08:56] <JoeLlama> ok at terminal what do I type in to find version information?
[08:56] <lotuspsychje> JoeLlama: what kind of system specs do you have?
[08:56] <JoeLlama> joeyy_ it's intel atom
[08:56] <JoeLlama> I have MANY intel atom systems
[08:56] <Neo4> JoeLlama: where you want put ubuntu on laptop? if on laptop had better chose ubuntu 16.04 with unity
[08:57] <JoeLlama> ok so current version info is not important right?
[08:57] <JoeLlama> and I should get 16.04
[08:57] <lotuspsychje> Neo4: thats not very helpful suggestion, unity works on desktops also
[08:58] <JoeLlama> ok I go get 16.04
[08:58] <lotuspsychje> JoeLlama: lsb_release -a
[08:58] <Neo4> JoeLlama: see window http://pix.toile-libre.org/?img=1517129895.png
[08:58] <JoeLlama> so get this version? http://releases.ubuntu.com/16.04/
[08:59] <Neo4> JoeLlama: on desktop works unitu as well, just windows less take place than gnome
[08:59] <ducasse> JoeLlama: get the 'i386' image, not 'amd64'
[08:59] <lotuspsychje> JoeLlama: that depends what you want, cfhowlett also suggested lubuntu or xubuntu
[09:00] <cfhowlett> JoeLlama, sounds like you have some "vintage" hardware.  lubuntu and to a slightly less degree xubuntu are optimized for legacy HW
[09:00] <JoeLlama> yes old hardware I have LOTS
[09:00] <JoeLlama> okay so like ubuntu-16.04.3-desktop-i386.iso ???
[09:01] <JoeLlama> ok no answer so that is what I get :)
[09:01] <lotuspsychje> JoeLlama: if 'you' like yes
[09:01] <binaryhermit> 32 bit only atoms aren't quite as vintage as it might sound
[09:01] <binaryhermit> like 8 years old IIRC
[09:02] <cfhowlett> arguably so, but 32 bit support is phasing out so ...
[09:02] <EriC^^> JoeLlama: how much ram do you have?
[09:03] <binaryhermit> it's only the first 2 atoms that came out, though
[09:03] <binaryhermit> and it's closer to 9 years than 8
[09:04] <JoeLlama> like 1 or 2 gigs EriC^^
[09:04]  * binaryhermit feels old and shuts up because he's a bit offtopic
[09:04] <JoeLlama> yes I have atoms I think are 64
[09:04] <JoeLlama> all I know is windows runs like shit on atoms and linux is the bomb
[09:04] <cfhowlett> JoeLlama, with such limited ram, you will almost certainly find better performance with lubuntu/xubuntu
[09:05] <JoeLlama> eh
[09:05] <JoeLlama> I can always reinstall :)
[09:05] <cfhowlett> JoeLlama, easy enough.  install preferred *buntu, then you can easily install the desktop environment to test your chocies
[09:06] <JoeLlama> okee dokee thanks :)
[09:06] <EriC^^> 1gb is pretty low for ubuntu, i'd go with xubuntu or lubuntu
[09:07] <EriC^^> yeah that's an idea too
[09:36] <abouttotryoutubu> Hi! I think that previously there was an option to instal Ubuntu directly from Windows without the need for a USB drive. However, I am not able to find that option now. Is it still available at all?
[09:36] <lotuspsychje> !wubi | abouttotryoutubu not reccomended anymore
[09:37] <vegombrei> im using lubuntu i cant seem to install chrome browser can someone help me do this
[09:37] <lotuspsychje> vegombrei: try chromium-browser its the alternative for chrome
[09:37] <vegombrei> basically i cant stream movies from firefox is why im trying chrome if someone could help me fix that im good dont need chrome
[09:38] <abouttotryoutubu> Thank you, lotuspsychje
[09:38] <abouttotryoutubu> !install
[09:39] <lotuspsychje> abouttotryoutubu: best to create an ubuntu usb stick from windows with universal usb installer
[09:40] <abouttotryoutubu> lotuspsychje: yeah, gotcha. Dang. Just convinced my girl to try out Ubuntu, but we don't have any flashdrives lying around, I guess I'll have to wait to get one first.
[09:41] <lotuspsychje> abouttotryoutubu: smart choice mate, and welcome to the ubuntu community
[09:42] <lotuspsychje> abouttotryoutubu: any usb you could borrow from someone? a cheap 2gig on will do fine
[09:46] <amru> thanks
[09:46] <abouttotryoutubu> lotuspsychje: unfortunately, no. However, my phone is rooted. I just discovered  this -- "There is an Android app called DriveDroid. DriveDroid allows you to boot your PC from ISO/IMG files stored on your phone. This is ideal for trying Linux distributions without the need to burn different CDs or USB flash drives."
[09:47] <amru> what cons ubuntu mate 17.10
[09:47] <abouttotryoutubu> lotuspsychje: Can I install it from my phone, is this advisable?
[09:48] <lotuspsychje> amru: join #ubuntu-discuss
[09:48] <lotuspsychje> abouttotryoutubu: not sure if a computer can boot from a phone..
[09:48] <lotuspsychje> abouttotryoutubu: there is a way to load iso's from grub, but then you needing grub
[09:49] <vegombrei> howcome movies dont stream on firefox and they stream just fine on chromium ?
[09:51] <lotuspsychje> abouttotryoutubu: you could try to drivedroid..
[09:52] <lotuspsychje> vegombrei: perhaps the #firefox channel might know that
[09:52] <amru> what is a debian packages???
[09:52] <Borw3> !dpkg
[09:54] <niko1990> Hello everyone
[09:54] <lotuspsychje> niko1990: welcome, how can we help you?
[09:54] <niko1990> could someone tell me what !aNULL is for a command?
[09:55] <lotuspsychje> niko1990: command where?
[09:56] <niko1990> i'm trying to secure right now postfix with an ssl cert. and for this i should execute the command:
[09:56] <niko1990> postconf -e tls_high_cipherlist=EDH+CAMELLIA:EDH+aRSA:EECDH+aRSA+AESGCM:EECDH+aRSA+SHA384:EECDH+aRSA+SHA256:EECDH:+CAMELLIA256:+AES256:+CAMELLIA128:+AES128:+SSLv3:!aNULL:!eNULL:!LOW:!3DES:!MD5:!EXP:!PSK:!DSS:!RC4:!SEED:!ECDSA:CAMELLIA256-SHA:AES256-SHA:CAMELLIA128-SHA:AES128-SHA
[09:56] <niko1990> but it does not work... it returns me: bash: !aNULL: event not found
[09:56] <hackers> what i do in here???
[09:57] <lotuspsychje> !postfix | niko1990
[09:57] <ikonia> what are you trying to actually do
[10:11] <abouttotryoutubu> lotuspsychje: looks good so far, drivedroid has the phone recognized as a usb drive, I am downloading the .iso now
[10:12] <lotuspsychje> abouttotryoutubu: neat!
[10:12] <lotuspsychje> abouttotryoutubu: let me know if your bios will recognize your phone
[10:12] <lotuspsychje> abouttotryoutubu: would be a nice feedback for us
[10:14] <abouttotryoutubu> lotuspsychje: it does, but the thinkpad bios is a bit confusing to me, so I was not sure how to boot the stock drivedroid image, figured it would be pointless since bios sees the phone. Let's see if it's gonna bboot from the kubuntu .iso...
[10:14] <abouttotryoutubu> I'll figure it out :)
[10:15] <lotuspsychje> abouttotryoutubu: you can check F12 and see if your device shows as usb?
[10:16] <lotuspsychje> abouttotryoutubu: or go deeper in to your computers bios, see if you can set usb/external storage as primary boot
[10:16] <abouttotryoutubu> lotuspsychje: yes, it does. However, when I chose it with enter, it said that it's not secure ot whatever and it didn't boot up
[10:16] <lotuspsychje> hmm
[10:16] <lotuspsychje> abouttotryoutubu: perhaps something else block like secureboot or fastboot?
[10:16] <abouttotryoutubu> lotuspsychje: what are these? :)
[10:17] <lotuspsychje> abouttotryoutubu: uefi settings (if your system has uefi?)
[10:17] <abouttotryoutubu> I am on a thinkad x250, windows 10
[10:17] <lotuspsychje> abouttotryoutubu: yeah w10 has uefi
[10:18] <lotuspsychje> abouttotryoutubu: for installing ubuntu singleboot on your computer, fastboot & secureboot must be disabled
[10:18] <abouttotryoutubu> lotuspsychje: so should I look into disabling this efi stuff or what exactly
[10:18] <abouttotryoutubu> lotuspsychje: I want to dual boot, since it's her first Linux experience, she's scared :)
[10:19] <lotuspsychje> abouttotryoutubu: ah cant help with that, dont like dualboots myself
[10:19] <lotuspsychje> !dualboot | abouttotryoutubu
[10:19] <ikonia> why not just let her use windows if thats what she likes ?
[10:19] <lotuspsychje> !uefi | abouttotryoutubu see also this
[10:19] <abouttotryoutubu> lotuspsychje: I will look into that. What about the UEFI thing though, how do I boot up...
[10:19] <ikonia> if she's worried about a using linux, giving her a dual boot system to maintain seems counter productive
[10:19] <abouttotryoutubu> thanks
[10:20] <abouttotryoutubu> ikonia: she just wants to make sure that she has microsoft office for her uni projects
[10:21] <ikonia> so why not use windows then
[10:21] <ikonia> she has windows, she has office, she needs it for uni, why not just use what works
[10:21] <zomaar> abouttotryoutubu: You can also install Grub in Windows
[10:22] <ikonia> what ???
[10:22] <zomaar> There is a Grub for Windows
[10:22] <ikonia> please don't suggest grub4dos to people
[10:22] <zomaar> Oh
[10:22] <ikonia> it's a terrible concept
[10:22] <zomaar> Why is that
[10:22] <ikonia> because it doesn't really work very well and puts control of the boot loader in the wrong place
[10:23] <zomaar> You mean with Windows instead of Linux ;-)
[10:23] <ikonia> and putting grub on windows file system won't make dual boot simpler
[10:23] <ikonia> if you just need office and have microsoft windows already - why make something dual boot ?
[10:23] <lotuspsychje> abouttotryoutubu: libreoffice is a great replacement for MS office
[10:23] <zomaar> Personally I do not make dual boot; I use an SD card to boot Linux
[10:24] <zomaar> So I have no Grub that deals with Windows
[10:25] <ikonia> that is dual boot
[10:25] <ikonia> "I don't dual boot, but I let grub boot windows for me and linux on an SD card" = that is dual boot
[10:25] <zomaar> In that case booting from an USB stick is dual boot too
[10:25] <zomaar> The point is that the Windows harddisk is completely unaffected
[10:26] <abouttotryoutubu> Can I at least live boot? Or can't boot up another .iso at all with UEIF
[10:26] <TheWild> hello
[10:27] <TheWild> any clue about unmounting a disk that is used by process that I can't kill even with sudo? They failed to help me on ##linux.
[10:27] <TheWild> I mean, no "umount -f", no "umount -l", just force-unmount the f'ing mountpoint!
[10:27] <zomaar> TheWild: If kill -9 doesn't work you're out of luck
[10:28] <lotuspsychje> TheWild: we can only support ubuntu here
[10:29] <zomaar> I always have a Kubuntu 16.04 live USB in my computer, so technically I would be triple-boot now ;-)
[10:31] <zomaar> So doesn't the Ubuntu live have signed images?
[10:32] <zomaar> abouttotryoutubu: You will need to disable secure boot or boot in legacy mode
[10:33] <zomaar> Secure boot is really just a ploy to lock out competitors...
[10:36] <zomaar> Windows 10 doesn't even require secure boot as long as you have a legacy system
[10:43] <zomaar> ikonia: I don't use the SD card to boot into Windows. The Windows MBR does that
[10:45] <ikonia> zomaar: I'm not really interested, I'm not sure why you are telling me this stuff
[10:46] <zomaar> You just misquoted me that's all I just wanted to correct that
[10:48] <ikonia> I've not quoted you at all
[10:50] <zomaar>   "I don't dual boot, but I let grub boot windows for me and linux on an SD card"   that has some quotes around it
[10:50] <zomaar> I don't let Grub boot Windows for me, so you misquoted me
[10:50] <OnkelTem> My Xorg doesnt start on new installation of 17.10. Using KDE (sddm).
[10:51] <OnkelTem> So I've installed the system, then was playing with it installing new software for one day, then restarted and it didn't get X
[10:52] <OnkelTem> I had to go to tty1, manually stop sddm and start it again and only then I got X running
[10:52] <OnkelTem> And another issue - again with kwallet. I don't know what's wrong with its developers and do they test it anyway and ever but after the first restart of a system it starts asking a password WHICH IS NOT SET
[10:53] <OnkelTem> So the first time you run the system it's ok, but once you restarted it - it renders broken
[10:53] <OnkelTem> This is annoying since it doesn't change during several versions of KDE
[10:53] <ikonia> OnkelTem: is there a bug report for this ?
[10:54] <OnkelTem> I had this before on 14.x, on 16.x and now on 17.x
[10:54] <ikonia> OnkelTem: is there a bug report for this ?
[10:55] <zomaar> OnkelTem: It's not a migration thing is it?
[10:55] <OnkelTem> zomaar: no! always a new system
[10:56] <zomaar> OnkelTem: There was a bug where it asked you for the KDE 4 wallet password
[10:56] <OnkelTem> ikonia: I couldn't found anything appropriate
[10:56] <ikonia> is there a bug for this ?
[10:56] <OnkelTem> I don't know, I said I CAN'T find
[10:56] <ikonia> OnkelTem: so....if this was happening to everyone all the time, as you suggest, either a.) no-one has rpeorted a bug in multiple years b.) it's not happening to everyone and this is a much more isolated problem
[10:56] <ikonia> which seems the most realistic ?
[10:57] <ppf> is there a syslog server package?
[10:57] <ikonia> ppf: yes, it's installed by default
[10:57] <ikonia> hence why you see a syslog in /var/log
[10:57] <zomaar> No Ikonia various issues of this kind have always been here
[10:57] <OnkelTem> ikonia: since I dind't change configuration of my system I wudl suggest it happens for everyone
[10:58] <ppf> ikonia: i want to receive the syslog from networked devices
[10:58] <OnkelTem> ikonia: then they go search for it, find that great advice to make the password BLANK and do it
[10:58] <ikonia> OnkelTem: so it's been happening to every kde user for 3 years, yet no-one has reported a single bug on it
[10:58] <akik> OnkelTem: i've seen that
[10:58] <ikonia> OnkelTem: does that seem realistic ?
[10:58] <zomaar> OnkelTem: You can create a new wallet of course
[10:58] <ikonia> ppf: ok, configure syslog then
[10:59] <zomaar> I've been setting the password blank for years because it would keep asking for my wallet password at login
[10:59] <ppf> ikonia: how?
[10:59] <ppf> i don't see a config file
[10:59] <BL4DE> will ubuntu offer vanilla gnome session by default in the coming years? asking since it replaces ubuntu gnome and hoping for vanilla gnome DE in the future
[10:59] <ikonia> BL4DE: what do you mean by vanilla ?
[10:59] <OnkelTem> zomaar: I'm not sure then how to get it configured to be unlocked with the LOGIN password
[10:59] <zomaar> OnkelTem: I don't know either
[10:59] <OnkelTem> zomaar: shouldn't it just work by default - that's the main question
[10:59] <BL4DE> ikonia: no extensions, no custom colors. just vanilla gnome like in debian or fedora
[11:00] <ikonia> ppf: /etc/rsyslog.d
[11:00] <ppf> ikonia: doesnt exist
[11:00] <ikonia> ppf: and rsyslog.conf
[11:00] <ppf> oh wai
[11:00] <ikonia> BL4DE: fedora and debian are both themed
[11:00] <ppf> t
[11:00] <ppf> it does
[11:00] <ppf> i'm very sorry
[11:00] <ikonia> ppf: it's not a problem
[11:00] <tomreyn> ppf: man rsyslog.conf, "Remote machine"
[11:00] <lotuspsychje> BL4DE: ubuntu comes with few extensions like dock extension and indicators
[11:00] <zomaar> OnkelTem: While I have my opinion on that I don't deal in opinions right now
[11:01] <ppf> tomreyn: yeah ... i was too stupid to understand it's called rsyslog ..
[11:01] <tomreyn> ;)
[11:01] <ppf> tomreyn: although that seems to be referring to the client side?
[11:02] <zomaar> I can only say that I have been running into this problem for years and I can attest that it is a default issue
[11:03] <tomreyn> ppf: right, this manual section discusses sending messages to a server on the network.
[11:03] <hang3r> Hiya, I'm trying to get Kaffeine to detect channels with my Realtek dongle, the dongle is detected and loaded by the kernel ok. However when scanning for channels in Kaffeine, nothing shows up
[11:03] <geekosopher> can anyone suggest a good free vpn service provider
[11:04] <ppf> tomreyn: looks like imutp/imtcp is more what i need
[11:04] <lotuspsychje> geekosopher: ##networking perhaps
[11:04] <geekosopher> lotuspsychje: thanks
[11:04] <zomaar> hang3r: Have you tried dvb5_scan to see if something comes up?
[11:04] <zomaar> dvbv5_scan*
[11:04] <hang3r> zomaar, thanks I'll try it now
[11:05] <zomaar> hang3r: Kaffeine requires a bit of setup to select the device first or something
[11:05] <zomaar> hang3r: So make sure you didn't miss a configuration step
[11:13] <varun> how to learn more on irc?
[11:13] <lotuspsychje> Guest9806: see #freenode for the network part
[11:14] <tomreyn> !irc | Guest9806
[11:14] <ppf> ikonia, tomreyn: configured it, but it doesn't work?
[11:15] <ppf> https://paste.ubuntu.com/26476498/
[11:15] <ppf> but nobody is listening on that port
[11:16] <Guest9806> http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist is not found ubotto
[11:16] <Guest9806> *ubottu
[11:17] <tomreyn> Guest9806: you're right, that's outdated, thanks for pointing it out. use !alis to search for channels, /list  to see the full channel listt on this IRC network. irchelp.org for general IRC help (commands provided there may or may not work on this IRC network unmodified)
[11:18] <lotuspsychje> !alis | Guest9806 to find channels also
[11:18] <Guest9806> !irc
[11:18] <Guest9806> !alis
[11:18] <Guest9806> alis
[11:18] <tomreyn> ppf: how did you check whether this UDP service will accept data?
[11:18] <ppf> netstat
[11:18] <Guest9806> I'm not able to get you
[11:20] <ppf> tomreyn: it's also not receiving any logs from the network
[11:20] <lotuspsychje> Guest9806: read how it works plz
[11:20] <Guest9806> ok
[11:20] <est31> upgrading my laptop from 14.04 LTS to 16.04 LTS created a problem for me: my fans are at 100% and the computer feels much slower. This feeling is confirmed when I look at /proc/cpuinfo: the CPU is always at its lowest clock rate
[11:20] <tomreyn> ppf: does "sudo lsof -i :514" list it?
[11:20] <lotuspsychje> est31: is your system up to date?
[11:20] <ppf> tomreyn: nolsen
[11:20] <est31> any ideas what I can use to troubleshoot this?
[11:20] <est31> lotuspsychje: yes
[11:20] <ppf> tomreyn: no
[11:20] <est31> I've tried getting the latest mainline kernel, but it exhibits the same issue
[11:20] <tomreyn> ppf: did you restart the daemon??
[11:20] <ppf> tomreyn: yeah
[11:21] <tomreyn> ppf: anything on the logs?
[11:21] <lotuspsychje> !info linux-image-generic xenial | est31 tried booting this one?
[11:22] <ppf> tomreyn: nothing stands out
[11:22] <est31> lotuspsychje: how is that different from the default kernel?
[11:23] <lotuspsychje> est31: wich kernel are you on now?
[11:23] <lotuspsychje> est31: lsb_release -a && uname -a
[11:23] <est31> lotuspsychje: 4.14.0-01400-generic is the kernel version
[11:23] <tomreyn> ppf: i think the proper rsyslogd syntax for mod loading is "$ModLoad imudp", not "module(load="imudp")"
[11:24] <ppf> tomreyn: i tried both
[11:24] <est31> lotuspsychje: i've installed a mainline kernel to test whether it fixes the issue for me
[11:24] <est31> but it didnt
[11:24] <lotuspsychje> est31: ok and have you tested other kernels to see if your cpu still high?
[11:24] <ppf> the $ is in the manpage, the other one in the other config files
[11:24] <est31> lotuspsychje: lsb_release says 16.04.3 LTS
[11:24] <lotuspsychje> est31: tried htop to see whats ontop of your list cpu?
[11:25] <est31> list cpu?
[11:25] <lotuspsychje> est31: i mean your cpu load
[11:25] <lotuspsychje> !ingo htop | est31
[11:25] <lotuspsychje> !info htop | est31
[11:25] <est31> ah htop
[11:25] <OnkelTem> Does anybody know how to hide splash screen and show just a text output to see the errors? I tried removing 'quiet splash' but it didn't help - only splash has disappeared
[11:25] <tomreyn> ppf: i see what you mean. sorry i can't help there, have never set this up myself with rsyslog.
[11:25] <ppf> tomreyn: np
[11:26] <est31> lotuspsychje: htop says my CPUs are < 5 % each
[11:26] <est31> lotuspsychje: sensors says all temperatures are below 35 degrees celsius
[11:26] <est31> and the fan still runs at 100%
[11:26] <OnkelTem> So basically when I first press 'e' in the grub menu, then edit the kernel line and proceed with F10 - it shows me a black screen
[11:26] <est31> it didnt do that back on 14.04 LTS
[11:27] <OnkelTem> How to get just what was there before in Linux - just a list of things?
[11:29] <zomaar> OnkelTem: I don't know if something changed in 17.10
[11:29] <ppf> tomreyn: i think it might be time for me to switch back to windows ......
[11:29] <zomaar> OnkelTem: But it works in 16.10 at least
[11:30] <tomreyn> ppf: have a nice day nevertheless
[11:30] <ppf> tomreyn: i named the config file 99-server.conF
[11:31] <ppf> tomreyn: and it literally took me half an hour to figure that out ....
[11:32] <akik> OnkelTem: try also setting GRUB_TERMINAL=console in /etc/default/grub and after that: sudo update-grub
[11:32] <ppf> apparently i'm not cut out for this advanced systems management stuff!
[11:33] <OnkelTem> akik: I set it yeah, didn't help though
[11:33] <brainwash> est31: it usually helps to mention which hardware/system is having the issue
[11:33] <hassan_> hi
[11:34] <hassan_> i need help
[11:34] <est31> brainwash: laptop HP compaq 6715s, AMD x2
[11:34] <hassan_> what games for 265 GPU
[11:34] <zomaar> pff: Not sure what you're trying to do but nobody is cut out for this ;-)
[11:35] <ppf> zomaar: tried to set up remote syslogging ;)
[11:35] <tomreyn> ppf: in case it would have taken you less time on that other OS, thank about how much time you had to spend to learn your way around advanced stuff there, and how you often don't know how to get things done there even now. advanced stuff generally needs patience and diligence, that's entirely normal.
[11:35] <zomaar> pff: You mean with you as the source or you as the target?
[11:35] <ppf> zomaar: target
[11:36] <ppf> tomreyn: i'm joking, you see ;) angry with myself for being unable to type a filename correctly
[11:36] <ppf> and then wasting at least two people's time looking for a fix :D
[11:37] <est31> so, I'm trying out kernel 3.13 now and it works here
[11:37] <zomaar> pff: Well I wasted more than 2 hours yesterday because OpenVPN does not put up the tap interface it creates by default
[11:37] <est31> as in: no issues
[11:37] <zomaar> pff: And no one tells you ;-)
[11:38] <brainwash> est31: mmh. you could go this route, and try to find the first bad kernel
[11:38] <ppf> zomaar: but that's not entirely your fault
[11:38] <BL4DE> ok so I guess I can remove ubuntu-session, install vanilla-gnome-default-settings and gnome-session and it appears to be mostly stock gnome
[11:38] <est31> brainwash: is there a tool for that?
[11:39] <brainwash> est31: there is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/KernelBisection
[11:39] <brainwash> but that includes compiling kernels
[11:39] <brainwash> so, in the end you'll be able to find the exact commit which causes the problem
[11:39] <zomaar> ppf: Well the amount of times I mistype a filename
[11:40] <zomaar> ppf: But I will leave you with your self-judgement ;-)
[11:40] <ppf> :)
[11:40] <brainwash> est31: you want to use https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bisection_method
[11:40] <est31> brainwash: thanks
[11:41] <brainwash> est31: I assume that your GPU may run hot. can you verify this?
[11:42] <brainwash> you've only mentioned CPU so far
[11:42] <Borw3> :D
[11:42] <zomaar> est31: Do you have cpufreq-utils installed?
[11:43] <est31> zomaar: no
[11:43] <est31> but I can install it if it helps finding the bug
[11:45] <zomaar> est31: Edit /etc/init.d/cpufreq and set the default profiler to "ondemand"
[11:45] <zomaar> est31: While you're at it
[11:45] <zomaar> est31: This will at least ensure that the AMD x2 CPU will clock down
[11:46] <est31> when it exhibits the bug, it is always clocked down. It not getting up when needed is the problem.
[11:46] <est31> only the fan is at 100%
[11:50] <est31> zomaar: that file doesnt exist
[11:53] <zomaar> est31: What is the output of "cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpufreq/policy0/scaling_governor"
[11:53] <est31> zomaar: ondemand
[11:53] <est31> (back on the buggy version now)
[11:54] <est31> sooo cpufreq says "the clock rate should lie between 800 Mhz and 800 Mhz. the policy ondemand can decide freely inside those bounds"
[11:54]  * est31 translated it from german
[11:56] <OnkelTem> Folks, I don't have a browser by hand, how to disable a service from autostarting?
[11:56] <zomaar> est31: echo performance | sudo tee /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpufreq/policy[01]/scaling_governor
[11:56] <zomaar> est31: You can set the maximum too
[11:57] <zomaar> OnkelTerm: systemctl disable <service>
[11:59] <zomaar> est31: The file is still /etc/init.d/cpufreq_something
[11:59] <est31> zomaar: I've tried writing to scaling_max_freq in that path
[11:59] <est31> but it stayed at 800mhz
[11:59] <zomaar> What about the performance governor
[11:59] <zomaar> But it will soak your battery
[12:00] <est31> ok
[12:00] <zomaar> est31: I meant using cpufreq-utils
[12:00] <est31> I just want the bug to be fixed
[12:01] <zomaar> We all want lots of things but does performance help?
[12:01] <est31> lol
[12:01] <OnkelTem> zomaar: OnkelTerm - sounds great btw!
[12:02] <est31> it does indeed
[12:02] <est31> zomaar: in fact I found out that the 3.13 version of the kernel is still around on my system
[12:02] <est31> and booting to it works and stuff
[12:02] <est31> I can just use 3.13 yeey
[12:02] <zomaar> OnkelTem: Oh haha
[12:03] <OnkelTem> zomaar: but systemctl doesn't do that, erm...
[12:03] <OnkelTem> zomaar: there should be somethig else
[12:03] <OnkelTem> I want to disable plymouth service specifically
[12:04] <zomaar> That's different and would require update-initramfs -u anyway
[12:05] <zomaar> est31: Nice
[12:06] <OnkelTem> Hm... So that is no any easy way to see system log during boot? Seems like Linux goes the way Microsoft was following from the beginning - just not showing anything
[12:06] <OnkelTem> there is*
[12:07] <zomaar> OnkelTem: If you add "debug" parameter it might write to /run/initramfs/*.log if that still exists
[12:07] <OnkelTem> My system just shows black screen not running Xorg
[12:07] <zomaar> OnkelTem: But it's a different kind of log
[12:07] <akik> OnkelTem: removing quiet splash and that GRUB_TERMINAL=console have worked for me in every case
[12:07] <zomaar> OnkelTem: Also many logs are found in journalctl regardless
[12:07] <OnkelTem> akik: I see, not the case here however
[12:11] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[12:20] <arn0l> hi everybody
[12:22] <arn0l> Hi friends how can I download files from a site I've accessed the directories where php files are seen
[12:23] <zomaar> arn0l: You can only download php files if they are not executed
[12:27] <arn0l> zomaar: I see the directory where the php files are located but I can not download the files
[12:28] <arn0l> I'm sending a link a minute
[12:28] <zomaar> arn0l: You can only download php files if they are not executed
[12:30] <arn0l> why
[12:34] <zomaar> arn0l: because the server will not give you the php files
[12:36] <zomaar> arn0l: because it is a webserver that executes php files
[12:47] <arn0ld> hello again
[12:48] <arn0ld> http://konyaspor.org.tr/wp-includes/
[12:48] <arn0ld> Can we download php files on this site?
[12:51] <zomaar> arn0ld: What is the purpose of a PHP file?
[12:52] <eraserpencil> HI guys, I have an odd question to ask
[12:52] <arn0ld> I will pull the cookies on the side
[12:52] <arn0ld> BEyler türk var mı
[12:53] <eraserpencil> I have a WD 4TB Red plugged in, but lsblk returns it as a 2tb drive
[12:53] <eraserpencil> like sdb: 2TB
[12:54] <zomaar> LVM tells me to use "vgimportclone" and then I STILL have duplicate PVs
[12:55] <zomaar> "  WARNING: duplicate PV kIuse1y6mtkjGCdIUFE1j5SIGsvMO4t3 is being used from both devices /dev/coll/msatapv and /dev/coll1/msatapv"   this is really dumb
[12:59] <eraserpencil> sorry i got disconnected
[12:59] <eraserpencil> did anyone reply
[13:01] <arn0ld> .
[13:01] <oerheks> eraserpencil, what partitiontable does it use, msdos or gpt? parted -l # will show that
[13:02] <arn0ld> http://konyaspor.org.tr/wp-includes/
[13:02] <arn0ld> How can kids access these cookies
[13:03] <zomaar> arn0ld: Go away
[13:03] <arn0ld> http://konyaspor.org.tr/wp-includes/Requests/Cookie/
[13:03] <eraserpencil> msdos
[13:03] <arn0ld> what?
[13:03] <eraserpencil> oerheks: msdos
[13:04] <eraserpencil> and gpt?
[13:04] <oerheks> eraserpencil, there you go, msdos is limited to 2.something tb, use gpt for full capacity
[13:04] <eraserpencil> wait
[13:04] <eraserpencil> it has msdos, unknown, and gpt
[13:05] <oerheks> if that 1st one is msdos, you are bound to that.
[13:05] <eraserpencil> sorry. I need to read the output properly. /dev/sdb has a partition table of uknown
[13:06] <IhrFussel> What's the default unit du uses? Doesn't seem to be bytes
[13:08] <eraserpencil> https://pastebin.com/1Puh417m
[13:10] <oerheks> eraserpencil, use parted to partition gpt, https://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/fdisk-unable-to-create-partition-greater-2tb.html
[13:11] <oerheks> or use gdisk, not fdisk
[13:13] <eraserpencil> yea I did try gdisk but I get a Read error 5 warning and it gets stuck.
[13:13] <eraserpencil> I'll try parted
[13:14] <wowox> hello i'm currently installing a new OS and want to keep my /home partition (It has already a dedicated partition /dev/sda5). If i don't format it will my new OS recognize it as its own /home ?
[13:14] <auronandace> wowox: provided you've set the mountpoint during installation and keep the same username yes
[13:14] <Borw3> wowox: Map it to /home and it will :D
[13:14] <cfhowlett> !home | wowox
[13:17] <wowox> auronandace: can't find how to set the mountpoint during installation. Check this screenshot : https://i.imgur.com/AyXcZM6.png
[13:17] <auronandace> wowox: see the dropdown box? use as:
[13:17] <wowox> ( I also want to resize it so it uses the "free space" )
[13:18] <wowox> auronandace: Oh yea, so I use it as Ext4 and put /home on mountpoint without selecting "format the partition" ?
[13:19] <auronandace> wowox: yes, you certainly don't want to format the partition
[13:19] <wowox> Okay perfect
[13:19] <wowox> So now how to resize it so it uses the "free space" ?
[13:20] <auronandace> wowox: select the appropriate partition and press the change button
[13:20] <est31> when I want to file a bug about my issue, what do I use best to describe it?
[13:21] <est31> also where to file it?
[13:21] <wowox> auronandace: I believe I had /dev/sda4 as primary partition and /dev/sda5 is a logical partition inside it.
[13:21] <cfhowlett> !bug | est31
[13:21] <wowox> auronandace: but /dev/sda4 is not shown here
[13:22] <est31> cfhowlett: if I suspect the bug is in upstream linux should I file it there? or can I file it on launchpad too
[13:22] <cfhowlett> if upstream, yes file it there.
[13:23] <auronandace> wowox: if you open a terminal and paste the output in a pastebin please: sudo parted -ls
[13:24] <eraserpencil> oerheks: https://pastebin.com/0s5zMy91
[13:24] <wowox> https://pastebin.com/raw/L6VHgnmJ
[13:25] <wowox> auronandace: https://pastebin.com/raw/L6VHgnmJ
[13:26] <auronandace> wowox: there you go, sda4 is there as the extended partition, it just doesn't show up in the graphical partitioner i the installer
[13:28] <wowox> auronandace: Yep. Now when i try to resize sda5 (my /home partition) it tells me that it can't go beyond 91198 MB
[13:32] <auronandace> wowox: can you launch gparted and take a screenshot please? the partitioner in the installer isn't as informative
[13:33] <wowox> auronandace: here it is : https://i.imgur.com/EzC1wth.png
[13:35] <auronandace> wowox: much better. you will need to resize sda4 first to the left then you can resize sda5
[13:35] <auronandace> wowox: it would be best to close the installer and do this via gparted first
[13:35] <auronandace> wowox: as usual, good practice would be to make backups before changing any partitions
[13:40] <wowox> auronandace: okay great, so this should be ok now : https://i.imgur.com/1dykwuJ.png
[13:41] <auronandace> wowox: splendid, you are all good to go, if you are happy with backups you can now press apply
[13:42] <oerheks> no backup? then your data is not important :-D
[13:43] <wowox> auronandace: didn't make backups because i don't have important data, but i'm curious to know what causes data to be lost when resizing ?
[13:44] <auronandace> wowox: i think the usual case would be hardware failure, another possibility is sudden power loss
[13:44] <oerheks> or bad blocks
[13:44] <htafdwes> hey, how do I blacklist version 4.13* of the kernel packages?
[13:44] <htafdwes> none of them work on my computer
[13:47] <oerheks> htafdwes, use grub to boot into an older kernel, and see the !grub manual howto set that option as standard
[13:47] <oerheks> !grub
[13:48] <lotuspsychje> htafdwes: wich ubuntu version are you on, and what happens exactly?
[13:48] <htafdwes> oerheks: yes, I always have to go to advanced settings and choose 4.10 kernel
[13:49] <htafdwes> lotuspsychje: I'm on 16.04 but had same problem on 17.04 and 17.10, basically if I boot on 4.13 then it freezes on the login screen, no mouse no nothing, can only do hard reset
[13:51] <ChiefAlex> So,you can make a VM with Ubuntu on Android
[13:51] <ChiefAlex> I guess that this is the no root way to have Ubuntu on Android
[13:51] <lotuspsychje> ChiefAlex: ask in #android
[13:52] <htafdwes> ChiefAlex: use Termux, it's roughly equivalent
[13:53] <ChiefAlex> Ok,but I am already trying to install Ubuntu in Limbo
[13:53] <lotuspsychje> !info linux-image-generic xenial | htafdwes
[13:55] <ChiefAlex> I made myself an Live USB with Ubuntu
[13:55] <ChiefAlex> But it has made with Rufus
[13:56] <htafdwes> okay, so I apt removed all the 4.13*'s and did apt-mark-hold on linux-image-generic
[13:56] <ChiefAlex> And has no persistent storage
[13:56] <htafdwes> hopefully that will do the trick
[13:56] <ChiefAlex> How can I make one with a persistent storage?
[13:58] <oerheks> follow the wiki https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[14:00] <htafdwes> ChiefAlex: I don't know, can ask in #android or lineageos.  the ubuntu phones were discontinued, but can probably find something on them, plasmaos has kubuntu that may have had some new life https://itsfoss.com/open-source-alternatives-android/
[14:00] <ChiefAlex> oerheks TX
[14:18] <solidfox> hello, I am on kubuntu 17.04 and anytime I try to use virtualbox my whole computer freezes
[14:19] <oerheks> solidfox, sad to hear that, but 17.04 is EOL, dead, upgrade please
[14:19] <oerheks> you won't recieve important updates, nor from virtualbox
[14:23] <solidfox> oerheks: oh ok.
[14:23] <solidfox> oerheks: what is lts currently? 16.04? or is 18.04 out?
[14:24] <akik> solidfox: lts is both 14.04 and 16.04
[14:24] <oerheks> 16.04 .. 18.04 will be out in a few months
[14:25] <oerheks> oh, indeed, 14.04 is still supported too
[14:25] <lotuspsychje> and 12.04 esm :p
[14:27] <solidfox> ok. I'll probably just upgrade to 17.10 to see if that has any fixes
[14:28] <lotuspsychje> !usn | solidfox see also the risks of an eol version
[14:30] <jason1> hello
[14:31] <jason1> How do I install the console display manager?
[14:32] <akik> jason1: what's that?
[14:32] <jason1> https://github.com/evertiro/cdm
[14:33] <jason1> akik: its a very minimalistic dm, do I create a custom systemd service for it?
[14:34] <akik> jason1: sorry that's not supported here. it's really vague on what that even does
[14:35] <oerheks> old project, this clone might be more workable.. https://github.com/dopsi/console-tdm
[14:35] <oerheks> no idea how it works, still
[14:36] <akik> jason1: so even if it says "console" it's for xorg?
[14:37] <oerheks> init/xorg indeed
[14:38] <jason1> I think it only starts xorg
[14:38] <jason1> because it works without
[14:41] <ikonia> how can a display manager work without xorg or wayland ?
[14:43] <jason1> ikonia: because its console display manager
[14:43] <ikonia> what does that even mean ?
[14:43] <jason1> that its not a graphical one
[14:44] <ikonia> so ?
[14:44] <ikonia> a display manager needs a display, this is normally Xorg or wayland
[14:44] <ikonia> the console is just a tty - there is your console display
[14:44] <jason1> so it does not depend on xorg
[14:44] <ikonia> jason1: how can it not depend on a display server such as xorg or wayland
[14:44] <jason1> because it does not need it
[14:45] <ikonia> ahhh Im reading the docs, it's just a bash shell script
[14:45] <jason1> yeah
[14:45] <ikonia> so it's not really a display manager, it's basically a bash script that runs on a tty
[14:50] <skinux> How do I get a list of all PPAs installed?
[14:51] <ikonia> do you mean, "how do you get a list of all software that has come from a PPA" or "how do I see which repos I've configured"
[14:51] <skinux> I mean get a list of all PPAs I have added to APT
[14:51] <ikonia> skinux: you'll see it in the config files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[14:51] <ikonia> or when you do apt-get update
[14:52] <ikonia> or in the sources list gui
[14:53] <jer> when doing an apt-get update on a 16.04 machine, i'm getting 403 access denied errosr when hitting archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu xenial/main amd64 Packages <-- any idea? (also a few others, but not all of them)
[14:54] <ikonia> probably one of the mirrors behind that host is down/having a problem
[14:54] <jer> any workaround? this happens reliably so probably hitting the same mirror
[14:54] <ikonia> open it in a browser, see if you can visually see it
[14:54] <jer> i cannot
[14:54] <jer> have tried that already
[14:54] <ikonia> make sure it's not something silly like dns failing on your host
[14:55] <ikonia> what is the URL you are putting into your browser ?
[14:55] <jer> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/xenial/main/
[14:55] <jer> i do not see an amd64 dir there; i do see a binary-amd64 dir though
[14:57] <ikonia> if you look at that whole tree there is no amd64
[14:57] <ikonia> I think that's the correct layout, (I'd need to check)
[14:58] <Guest25988> \join #twill
[15:04] <jer> ikonia, dunno something is weird, i get messages about the repo not having a Release file -- probably related to the 403 i get
[15:06] <VTCoder> I'm facing an error while trying to install any software due to runit. How can I help myself out?
[15:06] <ikonia> VTCoder: sharing the error/information would be a good start if you want help
[15:06] <ikonia> reading logs if you want to help yourself
[15:06] <ikonia> jer: the repo looks "visually" ok to me
[15:07] <VTCoder> dpkg: error processing package runit (--configure):
[15:07] <VTCoder>  subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[15:07] <VTCoder> Errors were encountered while processing:
[15:07] <VTCoder>  runit
[15:07] <VTCoder> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[15:07] <ikonia> VTCoder: so the first question is where does the runit package come from
[15:08] <jer> urgh
[15:08] <VTCoder> what is runit actually? Manual states that its a Unix process no 1
[15:08] <Mrokii> Hello. I'm not sure if I should ask here or on #mozilla or something. Anyhow, I wanted to know if there is a way to install two versions of firefox on #ubuntu, separated from each other completely.
[15:08] <auronandace> VTCoder: an init system, by default ubuntu uses systemd
[15:09] <ikonia> VTCoder: why are you installing it if you don't know what it is
[15:09] <VTCoder> I'm trying to install git-all
[15:09] <ikonia> Mrokii: if there packages install to different locations or version the binary they install
[15:09] <ikonia> VTCoder: where does the package "git-all" come from
[15:10] <jer> ikonia, ok turns out there was a proxy in apt.conf.d moving that aside resolved the problem
[15:10] <VTCoder> Ubuntu
[15:10] <jer> my vps provider apparently pre-installed a proxy
[15:10] <ikonia> jer: nice spot
[15:10] <ikonia> !info git-all
[15:10] <jer> and it's having problems
[15:10] <ikonia> so I doubt git would require an init system
[15:10] <ikonia> are you sure it's a dependency
[15:11] <VTCoder> ikonia: that's what the terminal shows
[15:12] <ikonia> how are you verifying it's a dependency ?
[15:12] <VTCoder> how can I? plz elaborate
[15:13] <VTCoder> BTW the problem started after I upgraded
[15:14] <ikonia> upgraded what to what
[15:14] <nitish> I've dual boot. wifi is not working in ubuntu. Someone plz help.
[15:15] <oerheks> nitish, dual boot with win10?
[15:15] <nitish> @oerheks, yes
[15:15] <oerheks> nitish, check out if fastboot is disabled, that could prevent wifi from working
[15:16] <nitish> i've disabled it @oerheks
[15:16] <oerheks> * if enabled
[15:16] <oerheks> nitish, oke, did wifi work before?
[15:16] <nitish> working in windows. didn't worked in ubuntu 16.04 since starting
[15:17] <VTCoder> has the support for wine ended?
[15:17] <nitish> @oerheks, laptop manufacterer: HP
[15:18] <VTCoder> has the support for wine ended?
[15:18] <ikonia> VTCoder: what support ?
[15:18] <ikonia> what support
[15:18] <VTCoder> I'm not able to install wine
[15:18] <oerheks> nitish, does the driver util give any driver available? sources > additional driver
[15:18] <ikonia> as I said earlier you need to give info, you can't just say "broken, help"
[15:19] <nitish> @oerheks, not any additional wifi available
[15:19] <VTCoder> ikonia: says IP address 91.189.88.149.80 not found
[15:19] <ikonia> VTCoder: what does ?
[15:19] <ikonia> VTCoder: it's impossible to help you with this scattered info
[15:19] <oerheks> VTCoder, are you still on 17.04?
[15:19] <VTCoder> and due to that it failed to fetch the files for installation
[15:19] <VTCoder> 16.04
[15:19] <ikonia> VTCoder: it's like me saying "fix it" as the answer
[15:22] <nitish> Does anyone have any idea about how to fix wifi not showing in ubuntu 16.04 (dual boot with windows 10)?
[15:22] <oerheks> nitish, what adapter is it, lspci -nn -d ::280
[15:23] <nitish> @oerheks, its showing invalid option
[15:25] <nitish> @oerheks, lspci -nn showing: Realtek semiconductor Co. Ltd
[15:26] <oerheks> nitish, there should be more, realtek makes 1000+ wifi devices
[15:27] <just_another_lea> how can I go in Ubuntu Development?
[15:28] <nitish> @oerheks, yes. let me share it via pastebin.
[15:28] <oerheks> !development
[15:29] <nitish> @oerheks: https://pastebin.com/AqK7ypUU
[15:30] <nitish> @oerheks: I've also shared output of 'cat /etc/network/interfaces', 'lspci -knn | grep Net -A2' and 'rfkill list all' here https://askubuntu.com/questions/1000679/wifi-and-bluetooth-is-not-working-in-ubuntu-16-04
[15:32] <oerheks> nitish, found it, it is the rtl8723de, no official driver available, you *could* try to build this one yourself ,, https://askubuntu.com/a/989152 >> https://askubuntu.com/questions/961299/cannot-see-my-wifi-10ecd723-when-trying-ubuntu
[15:41] <nitish> @oerheks: Do I need to follow first part of answer or both part? I mean after "The dkms way (the instructions from the developer's driver):" this line https://askubuntu.com/questions/961299/cannot-see-my-wifi-10ecd723-when-trying-ubuntu/989152#989152
[15:42] <oerheks> nitish, follow https://askubuntu.com/a/989152 , that would do the same as https://github.com/smlinux/rtl8723de
[15:43] <Blakes5> hi
[15:50] <skinux> This may be a strange question, but how can I install OpenJDK 7 JRE?
[15:51] <manyak> it's not strange just unusual
[15:51] <skinux> I'm having to try to use a software at 1-step-back prior version and it requires 7
[15:51] <manyak> we usually ask this type questions to the zoogle
[15:52] <oerheks> skinux, depreciated, use openjdk8 or 9 ? https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=openjdk-7-jdk
[15:52] <kostkon> skinux, are you sure it can't work in 7+?
[15:52] <kostkon> skinux, 8+
[15:53] <nitish> @oerheks, thank you very much sir.
[15:53] <oerheks> https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=openjdk newest is 10 now, great
[15:53] <oerheks> nitish, it works?
[15:54] <nitish> yes. Perfectly. A big thank from bottom of the heart.
[15:54] <oerheks> nitish, have fun!
[15:54] <nitish> @oerheks, you saved my big time. Have a nice day. Good night.
[15:55] <skinux> It's FrostWire 5.x 6.x wouldn't launch, so I'm reverting to 5.x and that requires jre 7
[15:56] <waldmeister> hi
[15:56] <waldmeister> is kubuntu just the official ubuntu with an kde interface, or something different?
[15:57] <kostkon> skinux, try with openjdk8
[15:57] <skinux> I have
[15:57] <doctorly> I don't have nay man pages, anyone know a common reason for this?
[15:57] <brainwash> !kubuntu
[15:58] <doctorly> I am on 18.04 btw
[15:59] <waldmeister> i thought the latest version was 17.10
[15:59] <oerheks>  frostwire depends on openjdk-8-jre ... http://www.elinuxbook.com/install-frostwire-app-frostwire-torrent-client-in-ubuntu-16-04-a-best-bittorrent-alternative-for-linux/
[16:00] <waldmeister> thanks for the reply, i try to find out what a flavour exactly is
[16:00] <ducasse> !ubuntu+1 | doctorly
[16:02] <waldmeister> !kde
[16:04] <skinux> Well, JRE 7 didn't work. Forstwire couldn't find it. So, I'll have to fix the Look and Feel error I guess.
[16:04] <skinux> Though, I'm thinking it's a FrostWire bug and not something I can solve.
[16:05] <oerheks> skinux, no, <oerheks>  frostwire depends on openjdk-8-jre ... http://www.elinuxbook.com/install-frostwire-app-frostwire-torrent-client-in-ubuntu-16-04-a-best-bittorrent-alternative-for-linux/
[16:06] <oerheks> or is it just a 32 bit blob ?? http://www.humans-enabled.com/2016/09/howto-frostwire-install-on-ubuntu-linux.html
[16:06] <oerheks> :-D
[16:09] <Guest60068> Ex-Chat
[16:11] <kostkon> !xchat
[16:11] <skinux> Well, 8 is installed https://gist.github.com/skinuxgeek/382fba37f940ff0c58e09f1405f70da6
[16:12] <oerheks> skinux, the 32 bit version too?
[16:12] <skinux> This is a 64-bit machine
[16:13] <kostkon> skinux, looks like that's 9. sudo update-java-alternatives    and select the version of java you want to have as the default jre
[16:13] <darksoul__> hello
[16:13] <oerheks> i just posted a piece that shows it uses 32 java..
[16:15] <skinux> So, I add i386 architecture to my APT?
[16:15] <skinux> Or dpkg I mean
[16:18] <oerheks> hmm just tested, opening the frostwire.deb in softwarecenter just installs nicely, and updates
[16:25] <zomaar> I didn't know Ubuntu by default deletes archives if bigger than 500MB :(
[16:26] <zomaar> Spent days downloading stuff over a slow link
[16:26] <zomaar> And then the excess was removed :(
[16:27] <waldmeister> did you install it?
[16:27] <zomaar> I don't wanna go there now :)
[16:27] <zomaar> It has to be clean
[16:30] <waldmeister> maybe a friend can write it to a dvd/usb stick and send it to you if you need it
[16:34] <Ben________> Hi! Does anyone know how to fix the errno5 when trying to install it on virtual box I have also tried to redownload the iso file but it didn’t work. (I am not at my computer right now so I can’t try to reinstall it)
[16:43] <funabashi> Hi guyys, how can i remove all perl ?
[16:45] <oerheks> sudo apt-get remove purge --auto-remove perl
[16:45] <oerheks> something like that?
[16:45] <funabashi> i have done that but still perl directories
[16:47] <oerheks> funabashi, remove them manually then?
[16:48] <ducasse> use dpkg -S to see which packages they belong to
[17:02] <aziz> hi
[17:10] <pankaj> How to update many of many of my packages all in one?
[17:11] <sammecs> Hi, how can I install a package on a live booted system? Temporarily, on the RAM disk.
[17:11] <ducasse> pankaj: 'apt update ; apt full-upgrade'
[17:11] <ducasse> pankaj: that will upgrade all packages
[17:11] <pankaj> ducasse: I did 'full-upgrade' one time and it broke my system.
[17:13] <ducasse> pankaj: you were probably using ppas, then
[17:15] <pankaj> ducasse: What>
[17:17] <sammecs> PPAs: Repositories from other users (unofficial repositories, mostly used for very specific or new software)
[17:17] <oerheks> pankaj, odd argument, anyway you can always fix things with apt install-f or dkpg configure
[17:17] <pankaj> oerheks: OK. I am checking.
[17:37] <fraktor> I'm trying to set my cpu scaling governor to performance (I'm using the intel_pstate driver), but on startup it's always set to powersave. I've configured /etc/init.d/cpufrequtils to use performance. When I manually run the shell script, it works properly, but it's back to powersave once I reboot.
[17:42] <ioria> fraktor, and what's in /etc/default/cpufrequtils ?
[17:56] <solidfox> yes. I was on 16.04 actually lol. and I upgraded to 17.10, then I had to reinstall xorg input drivers! they were removed
[17:59] <solidfox> gonna test vitualbox
[17:59] <skinux> Okay, so someone said I need to have 32-bit version of OpenJDK 9, so I need a link to a correct resource for how to install it.
[17:59] <solidfox> not frozen
[18:00] <solidfox> :)
[18:00] <emanuel> O.O
[18:01] <catbadger> hi
[18:02] <catbadger> I am experiencing some stress. I think I locked out my only user account to a vm. I have an open ssh connection, but I am unable to log in on fresh connections.
[18:04] <akik> catbadger: what error do you get? did the vm fill up its storage?
[18:04] <oerheks> skinux, just tested on amd64, opening the frostwire.deb in softwarecenter just installs nicely, and updates
[18:04] <fraktor> toria: I set that to performance as well.
[18:05] <catbadger> akik: the vm did not fill it's storage. it's only at around 12% full
[18:05] <akik> catbadger: what error do you get?
[18:06] <akik> catbadger: you can see your sshd logs with: sudo journalctl -u ssh
[18:07] <akik> catbadger: you can see your sshd logs with and get an updating log with: sudo journalctl -f -u ssh
[18:09] <sonowwhat> hello... my system is hanging on an update... i didn't even know if i was going to recover my login screen/window manager
[18:11] <sonowwhat> not sure what to do - googled - I was using recovery mode and choosing to fix broken packages - everything went okay except it hanged on [ok] started braille device support
[18:11] <sonowwhat> can anyone help?
[18:11] <sonowwhat> something similar on askubuntu suggested dpkg --configure -a
[18:12] <sonowwhat> but, that was for an upgrade...I was just updating the system as I haven't logged in on it for a long while
[18:12] <sonowwhat> anyone?
[18:12] <sonowwhat> the problem started when I was upgrading and I had a system freeze so rebooted
[18:13] <akik> sonowwhat: did you run the dpkg command?
[18:17] <sonowwhat> no...should i run it?
[18:17] <sonowwhat> akik, or should I try apt-get update first to see where it hangs?
[18:18] <skinux> oerks: Hmm. Well, it doesn't for me.
[18:18] <skinux> I have this issue https://gist.github.com/skinuxgeek/382fba37f940ff0c58e09f1405f70da6
[18:18] <akik> sonowwhat: your package upgrades were stopped when you rebooted the machine, try running it first
[18:18] <sonowwhat> I was running commands in recovery mode....but, it must have repaired enough so that I could log in to the desktop
[18:19] <sonowwhat> akik, run what?
[18:19] <akik> sonowwhat: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[18:19] <sonowwhat> and I had to reboot... system was totally frozen
[18:19] <sonowwhat> okay
[18:20] <sonowwhat> the output was:  'Setting up' and then listed a bunch of packages.... then finished
[18:20] <sonowwhat> good, right?
[18:21] <hdpb> I found the unity quicklists gnome extension, but the description says it is enabled in current gnome shell. How do I activate/setup the quicklists?
[18:21] <sonowwhat> btw, I'm running 16.04
[18:21] <sonowwhat> on this partition
[18:21] <funabashi> hey guys anyone know what this issue can be with apt-get install , https://paste.ubuntu.com/26478799/
[18:21] <sonowwhat> akik: does that look good?
[18:22] <sonowwhat> should I try: apt-get update now?
[18:22] <akik> sonowwhat: yes
[18:23] <sonowwhat> just did... I'm good now, thanks
[18:23] <sonowwhat> whew
[18:24] <sonowwhat> I'm running 16.04 LTS.... is it good to leave it?  I have 17.10 on another partition
[18:27] <akik> sonowwhat: what do you mean leave it? it's supported until 2021
[18:29] <oerheks> skinux, well, file a bugreport with them, i have no clue other that openjdk8+ should work. just removed that piece of binairy crap
[18:29] <anddam> hello, can top sort by memory while running in batch mode?
[18:29] <sonowwhat> akik: either just update or upgrade... supported for 5 more years, I was aware...so maybe just leave it? :)
[18:30] <sonowwhat> I had anxiety when upgrading 17.04 to 17.10 :)
[18:30] <sonowwhat> another partition/OS
[18:30] <akik> sonowwhat: impossible question present, you
[18:30] <oerheks> anddam, easy to find: top -o %MEM
[18:31] <sonowwhat> akik, why impossible?
[18:31] <akik> sonowwhat: no one can tell you what to do but you yourself
[18:31] <sonowwhat> btw, I am using a tv for my display now since my monitor died.... it shows in settings as 7" display and browser is 'large' but title bar at bottom and top is tiny....
[18:31] <catbadger> kids needed breakfast. just got back.. scrolling...
[18:31] <sonowwhat> text there is small too... wonder if there's anything I can do with it
[18:31] <sonowwhat> any fix?
[18:32] <kostkon> sonowwhat, 17.10 will run out of support pretty soon, you'll have to upgrade to 18.04 that's for sure, another anxiety attack you'll have to endure
[18:32] <catbadger> thanks akik
[18:32] <skinux> Is this not an error that this channel can help with? https://gist.github.com/skinuxgeek/382fba37f940ff0c58e09f1405f70da6
[18:32] <sonowwhat> no idea why it's listed as 7" but I think the settings showed using two displays so the '7" was the overlap as it was probably considered the '2nd screen'
[18:32] <akik> sonowwhat: is it a samsung tv?
[18:32] <sonowwhat> don't know how to describe it...know what i mean?
[18:33] <akik> sonowwhat: because i have a samsung tv that does that :)
[18:33] <sonowwhat> kostkon, for sure :)
[18:33] <sonowwhat> the last upgrade I did went smooth.... not the past one, though :)
[18:33] <sonowwhat> akik, yep, Samsung :)
[18:33] <sonowwhat> an older Samsung.... kinda defective too.... problem with the screen
[18:33] <sonowwhat> but, it's not effecting this problem
[18:34] <sonowwhat> it's an older one, with 1360 x 768 res :-/
[18:34] <akik> sonowwhat: in some cases you can tell xorg which dpi value to use but it's not so easy to do
[18:34] <sonowwhat> i think I need to 're-do' the display settings?  somehow?
[18:35] <sonowwhat> I think the xorg/settings are interpreting this as a '2nd display' still?
[18:35] <sonowwhat> akik, doesn't sound easy to do either
[18:35] <akik> sonowwhat: do you get a good list of resolutions if you run: xrandr
[18:36] <sonowwhat> akik, yes
[18:36] <sonowwhat> i think i want to run at the native res?  Which it is now
[18:37] <akik> sonowwhat: so it's working now?
[18:37] <skinux> I can't find an answer online and no one seems to have an answer on IRC.
[18:37] <sonowwhat> I tried 1920 x 1080 which was no better...probably worse...but, I expected that
[18:37] <akik> sonowwhat: native resolution is the best
[18:37] <sonowwhat> depends how you define 'working' :)
[18:37] <sonowwhat> the title bars are overly small...text is tiny and not readable....
[18:38] <sonowwhat> browser window is rather large...tabs are large... i guess any window is large from any app
[18:38] <sonowwhat> it's the ubuntu /gnome - part - what do you call it - that is too small for reading
[18:39] <akik> sonowwhat: you can adjust some of those settings
[18:40] <akik> sonowwhat: i wrote this because 17.10 gnome graphics was too big for 1366x768 https://atkdinosaurus.wordpress.com/2017/10/24/how-to-make-gnome-graphics-elements-smaller-ubuntu-17-10/
[18:42] <catbadger> I'm freaking the eff out. is there anyway to check how long my user might be locked out for?
[18:43] <akik> catbadger: did you lose connection to your server?
[18:43] <catbadger> no, but i can't sudo now... I'm growing increasingly worried.
[18:43] <akik> catbadger: try changing your user password with: passwd
[18:44] <akik> catbadger: and try to remember if you changed some configuration that caused this problem
[18:44] <catbadger> akik: Authentication token manipulation error
[18:45] <sonowwhat> akik, thanks.  But, that won't change the size of the title bar and the text there, right?
[18:45] <d0lphin> Is it safe i use steam in linux?! because i dont want to give root access... to steam
[18:45] <charanpreet> ihi
[18:45] <sonowwhat> akik, the tabs there at the bottom - are small and not very readable either - which is what i am trying to say
[18:45] <akik> sonowwhat: you might find the setting for title bar font/size in dconf-editor
[18:46] <sonowwhat> if I right click them for the pop up 'options' - 'minimiz/unmaximize/close' they are so tiny, barely readable
[18:46] <cristian_c> akik: how could I resize titlebar buttons in gnome applications?
[18:46] <akik> sonowwhat: sorry i don't use gnome, but kde
[18:46] <sonowwhat> akik, you know what is funny?  I have a 3rd partition of ubuntu - I have kde there
[18:47] <sonowwhat> I think i have the same problem there :)
[18:47] <sonowwhat> of course, it looks different but the same small bars/text
[18:47] <sonowwhat> dconf-editor?
[18:47] <Bashing-om> sonowwhat: HiDpi display ? Then some tweaks here : https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/HiDPI#Xfce .
[18:48] <akik> sonowwhat: it's used to change gnome settings
[18:51] <akik> !info gnome-tweak-tool artful
[18:51] <akik> sonowwhat: you can try to use gnome-tweak-tool also
[18:51] <sonowwhat> I have the gnome tweak tool but don't see what to do
[18:52] <sonowwhat> in fact, I was just looking at it just now
[18:53] <sonowwhat> under 'fonts' - there's a tab for 'window titles' - is that what i change?  doesn't look like it
[18:53] <sonowwhat> the font size is already 11 and the title bar fonts look much smaller than that
[18:53] <sonowwhat> so I don't see any settings that will help me :-/
[18:55] <akik> sonowwhat: and dconf-editor ?
[19:09] <ismael__> olá
[19:09] <ismael__> alguem pode me ajudar?
[19:09] <ismael__> unity não vai voltar?
[19:09] <ismael__> será que alguem pode me dizerW
[19:10] <ismael__> ?
[19:10] <ismael__> olá
[19:10] <ismael__> tem alguem nesse canal?
[19:10] <akik> no portuguese support here, try english
[19:10] <ismael__> my name is ismael
[19:11] <ismael__> spiky portuguese
[19:11] <ismael__> ?
[19:11] <ismael__> i
[19:11] <akik> !pt
[19:12] <SomeT> !es
[19:13] <akik> i'm pretty sure that's portuguese and not spanish
[19:18] <SomeT> having trouble connecting to ubuntu over ssh, on digitaloceon droplet, works fine when I connect through the web, ran nmap on terminal in  web console, and port 22 is definitely open, when I connect using PuTTy software it timesout in connecting...?
[19:20] <ikonia> "when I connect through the web"
[19:20] <ikonia> what does that mean
[19:20] <SomeT> on digital oceon you can connect to the terminal via a web console
[19:20] <SomeT> and that works
[19:20] <ikonia> so the web console is nothing to do with ssh
[19:21] <SomeT> yeah but I know the machine is not powered off or anything
[19:21] <SomeT> this only started to happen when I put in reboot
[19:21] <SomeT> the command reboot
[19:21] <SomeT> I needed to do system restart
[19:21] <ikonia> running nmap on the terminal adds no value
[19:21] <SomeT> it tells me port 22 is open
[19:22] <ikonia> no it doesn't
[19:22] <SomeT> why?
[19:22] <ikonia> because you're on the host, it doesn't interact with the interface
[19:22] <SomeT> ah ok so what are you getting at?
[19:22] <ikonia> run the port scan (or just telnet to port 22) from an external host
[19:23] <catbadger> ok, so I rebooted into root console and added a user and added them to the sudo group. I can login directly to the console as that user, but can't ssh in as them. what gives?
[19:23] <SomeT> actually it works now
[19:23] <ikonia> that will show you the real connectivity to that host from the outside work
[19:23] <SomeT> must of been server slowness?
[19:23] <ikonia> SomeT: unlikely, that would be a terrible lag to hit the time out
[19:23] <SomeT> how long we talking?
[19:23] <SomeT> more than a ms?
[19:23] <ikonia> I think it's 3 minutes by default
[19:24] <ikonia> maybe less,
[19:24] <SomeT> um weird
[19:24] <SomeT> reckon its worth investigating further now it works?
[19:24] <ikonia> it's certainly over 60 seconds
[19:24] <ikonia> up to y ou
[19:24] <ikonia> you
[19:24] <ikonia> not sure what you're going to get now that it's working
[19:24] <SomeT> just do the port scan right?
[19:24] <oerheks> sudo ufw status
[19:24] <ikonia> well, you know the ports open, you know it's working
[19:25] <SomeT> what does sudo ufw status do?
[19:26] <oerheks> it shows current rules ?
[19:26] <ikonia> shows you the status of your firewall
[19:26] <oerheks> sudo ufw allow 22/tcp # to open port 22
[19:27] <oerheks> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW
[19:28] <SomeT> 22                         ALLOW       Anywhere
[19:28] <SomeT> its open right?
[19:28] <SomeT> no problemo
[19:28] <ikonia> you know it's open
[19:28] <Kobaz> hey... when shutting down, systemd gets stuck on stopping gdm
[19:28] <ikonia> you just said it was working
[19:28] <SomeT> how?
[19:28] <Kobaz> what's a good thing to look at first
[19:29] <SomeT> ikonia this is confusing me
[19:33] <oerheks> SomeT, if you connect from aws mindterm/webcnsole, they have a helppage https://docs.aws.amazon.com/AWSEC2/latest/UserGuide/mindterm.html
[19:34] <oerheks> oh wait, digitalocean..
[19:34] <oerheks> https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-use-the-digitalocean-console-to-access-your-droplet
[19:36] <SomeT> I am just trolling at this point bruv
[19:43] <oerheks> SomeT, noted, and on ignore.
[20:08] <benjamin__> Hi, I keep getting errno5 when trying to install ubuntu on a virtual machine and I have tried to redownload the file but nothing is working
[20:09] <benjamin__> It also seems I keep getting different MD5 hashes
[20:09] <senaps> i have installed docky in ubuntu 17.10, i can't drag icons to it. how would i add icons to it?
[20:11] <WoC> is there an easy way to switch all apparmor from enforce to complain ?
[20:11] <WoC> Any suggestions appreciated
[20:20] <backnforth> Hi, will someone help me with my lubuntu install. I had Linux Mint installed, and my game Rocket League would run with excellent graphics, but now when I run it with Lubuntu most of the graphics is black with some white.
[20:23] <Bashing-om> backnforth: Show the channel what the graphic's situation is ; Pastebin ' sudo lshw -C display ' .
[20:24] <backnforth> Bashing-om, https://hastebin.com/ceyofemubi.rb
[20:26] <oerheks> what driver is in use ? >> lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 | grep 'in use'
[20:26] <WoC> nm, found it; ( find / -type f -exec aa-complain {} \; )
[20:26] <WoC> ty anyway
[20:27] <backnforth> oerheks, https://hastebin.com/xojosikeka.css
[20:27] <ioria> backnforth, 16.04 ?
[20:27] <backnforth> 17.10
[20:28] <ioria> i guess it's a 'mesa' issue ..
[20:30] <catbadger> ok so With ssh -vvv I'm getting "permission denied" for all users via ssh
[20:30] <catbadger> but i can log in directly using kvm's console
[20:32] <backnforth> ioria, what should I do to fix my problem?
[20:32] <ioria> backnforth, there was a fix for xenial but not for artful
[20:32] <backnforth> ioria, Can I install a different driver?
[20:32] <ray_> asir
[20:33] <ray_> que tal
[20:33] <ioria> backnforth, i don't think is about that
[20:34] <backnforth> ioria, what should I install for an OS instead?
[20:37] <backnforth> ioria, is there a another ubuntu derivative that would work?
[20:37] <Bashing-om> backnforth: Look'n like you may be avle to run the amdgpu driver . still checking .. Be aware I do not "know" AMD graphic's .
[20:37] <backnforth> Bashing-om, Ok. Let me know if you need me to test/run anything
[20:40] <ioria> backnforth, are you fully updated ?
[20:40] <backnforth> ioria, yes, and I have done a restart
[20:56] <Bashing-om> backnforth: Try: https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=250624 . rene's post looks simple and straight forward to have the amdgpu driver .
[21:00] <oerheks> he has amdgpu running, Bashing-om
[21:01] <krabador> radeon in use
[21:01] <krabador> only the module.
[21:18] <catbadger> ok I'm starting to sweat here.
[21:18] <catbadger> I can't log in via ssh
[21:19] <catbadger> but my password works when on the box.
[21:19] <Tigger_England> the CIA will be listening
[21:21] <sky> hey there, I installed php7 and postfix. I can send mail from cli, but not with php
[21:21] <sky> do I need to install the php-mail package?
[21:21] <catbadger> I've tried resetting the password to something simpler. I've tried running sshd manually and listening to the output. it says authentication failed for invalid user... why would my user be invalid for ssh?
[21:23] <Howie69> sky: Yes
[21:24] <sky> hrm.
[21:24] <sky> that sucks
[21:24] <sky> i thought it was built in
[21:24] <Howie69> Things are never that easy :)(
[21:24] <backnforth> Bashing-om, this doesn'tw ork
[21:25] <sky> been futzing with this for too long
[21:25] <sky> :/
[21:25] <backnforth> I have tried installing amdgpu-pro too
[21:25] <Bashing-om> backnforth: ' lsmod | grep amdgpu ' shows what ?
[21:26] <backnforth> Bashing-om, https://hastebin.com/eqofeyedaj.pl
[21:26] <backnforth> oops
[21:26] <sky> Howie69: ok still having trouble
[21:26] <backnforth> Bashing-om, https://hastebin.com/rehesogoto.pl
[21:26] <NoobCode> hi there I've been using "export" command (configuring android studio), but I Did something wrong and I need to change the path string, but I don't have idea where is the file who works with exports..would u help me?
[21:27] <Howie69> sky: After those are done, you might want to try #php
[21:27] <sky> i know plenty of php
[21:27] <Howie69> sky: They can help debug a little better.  It's been a while since I did that setup (I have old servers)
[21:28] <Zythyr> Anyone here has used full disk encryption with crytpsetup?
[21:30] <rypervenche> Zythyr: Yep.
[21:32] <Bashing-om> backnforth: " lsmod | grep amdgpu >> amdgpu               2007040  0 " . Thw zero here mean the module is availabale but NOT in use ? Someone smarter than I, please advise .
[21:33] <Zythyr> rypervenche I used LUKS to ONLY encrypt my home partition. I am editing the crypttab file. I want to set the partition can be mounted automatically when unattended. I was planning on providing a key from a remote server. I am looking at this guide as an example. http://blog.devork.be/2016/12/encrypted-root-on-debian-with.html However. what I don't understand is twhat is the difference between
[21:33] <Zythyr> keyfile and keyscript in the crypttab setup?
[21:35] <backnforth> Bashing-om, I might go with lubuntu 16.04
[21:36] <Bashing-om> backnforth: In answer to the above " used 0 " .... >> " and whether they're being used by other modules. " .
[21:38] <backnforth> Bashing-om, I don't know enough about Ubuntu or Linux to fix this
[21:40] <Bashing-om> backnforth: Well, A RE-install is the faster, but we learn nothing from that expedient. I know littl of AMD but am willing to learn . If ya want to keep poking away at it .
[21:40] <rypervenche> Zythyr: A keyfile is the actual file that is your key. A keyscript is a script that does some things to essentially cat out the key file in one way or another.
[21:41] <Zythyr> rypervenche I read multiple guides about keyscript. They keep talking about intraramfs thing. I am not really understanding how it relates to keyscript
[21:41] <backnforth> Bashing-om, I'm game with keep pocking
[21:41] <rypervenche> Zythyr: All of what you are wanting to do has to be added to your initramfs.
[21:41] <backnforth> Bashing-om, we can use teamviewer if you want and I can give you acces to my system
[21:41] <Zythyr> Why is that?
[21:42] <rypervenche> Zythyr: Your initramfs is where your device is decrypted and mounted properly so that you can log into your machine.
[21:42] <backnforth> Bashing-om, Whatever, I'm game to keep working on it
[21:43] <Zythyr> rypervenche What if I create keyscript on my system partition (not encrypted) that basically cats out the key by doing "cat my_passphrase". In this case do I need to mess with the intramfs thing? (yes I know it is unsafe to leave passphrase unencrypted. This is just a thought excersie"
[21:44] <Bashing-om> backnforth: We know that the amdgpu driver is loaded, what does the gpu-manager have to relate ' cat /var/log/gpu-manager.log ' and also .. what DE is this ' echo $XDG_SESSION_TYPE " ?
[21:44] <rypervenche> Zythyr: If you are doing to do that, why not just use your keyfile? And you ARE using an initramfs if you have LUKS. That's not something you can get around.
[21:44] <rypervenche> Zythyr: You just aren't aware of it.
[21:45] <backnforth> Bashing-om, https://hastebin.com/okepaniviq.vbs
[21:45] <backnforth> Bashing-om, x11
[21:46] <Zythyr> rypervenche So what I am planning on doing is creating a keyscript that fetches a key from a remote https server. The key will ONLY be avaible when I need to do a remote reboot or Wake on Lan of the server.
[21:47] <Bashing-om> backnforth: Well, not ! " Is amdgpu kernel module available? no " . let me finish reading and see where we go from here .
[21:47] <rypervenche> Zythyr: That is fine, so long as you have networking set up in your initramfs and the necessary tools for fetching the key.
[21:48] <Zythyr> rypervenche So if I understand correnlty, configuration of the initramfs is to provide the necessary tools to execute the keyscript program?
[21:50] <Bashing-om> backnforth: And further " How many cards? 0 " . Ouch ! why is the card not seen ? we get any hints on X's log file ' cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log ' as you are running x11 will be under the control of Xorg :)
[21:50] <rypervenche> Zythyr: It's to provide the necessary tools to make your rootfs available and mountable. At which point your machine can continue booting up. A USB with your key may be easier to set up.
[21:52] <Zythyr> rypervenche I don't want to do usb key because if server gets stolen, so does the USB key that is always attached to it. Thus I was trying to a remote https method
[21:53] <backnforth> Bashing-om, https://hastebin.com/ayuderiwuf.hs
[21:53] <Zythyr> rypervenche So basically I put the keyscript in the /lib/cryptsetup/scripts/ folder?
[21:54] <rypervenche> Zythyr: No idea. That is something Ubuntu-specific that I won't be able to help with.
[21:54] <analogical> is there a cue splitter for Ubuntu that can split FLAC-files into individual tracks??
[21:58] <Bashing-om> backnforth: Reading .. I will be awhile .
[21:59] <rypervenche> analogical: There is indeed. https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/CUE_Splitting
[22:00] <JohnnyDoe> Which server brand should I choose for my upcoming Ubuntu Server?
[22:01] <JohnnyDoe> HP, Lenovo, Fujitsu
[22:03] <Bashing-om> backnforth: Yuk, attempted to load the proprietary overlay amdgpu-PRO .. but we get " 23.494] (EE) open /dev/dri/card0: No such file or directory " . Do not know what to make of this .. still reading .
[22:04] <adamitsch> I have figured out that I have two established ssh (root) connections with chineese IP... I disabled ssh for now. What should I do? :S
[22:06] <adamitsch> what could have they done yet?*
[22:06] <rypervenche> adamitsch: Reinstall.
[22:07] <rypervenche> adamitsch: There is no way to know how much they have infected your machine. The only way to be sure is to reinstall.
[22:07] <adamitsch> could they got my certificates and passwords also ? (I was dumb having opened ssh port 22 with 4-letter password)
[22:08] <rypervenche> adamitsch: They have access to everything if they have root. You need to change your keys and everything that they had access to. Passwords and such. And I would change your SSH port as well on the new installation. And also start using SSH keys and disabling password logins.
[22:09] <rypervenche> adamitsch: So yes, get new certs as well.
[22:09] <adamitsch> rypervenche: ok. thanks
[22:10] <Bashing-om> backnforth: Using the fall back graphics " VESA " as the driver as could not load any thing better . How about removing amdgpu-PRO ; reboot and then see what we have ?
[22:11] <backnforth> Bashing-om, I don't have an sh script to uninstall it
[22:15] <Bashing-om> backnforth: Yikkie. hiw did you install -PRO ? AMD : http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMDGPU-PRO-Install.aspx says just to run " amdgpu-pro-uninstall " .
[22:16] <backnforth> Bashing-om, I installed the tar file. I couldn't find a comaptible deb for Ubuntu 17.10
[22:17] <backnforth> Bashing-om, Ok, uninstalled
[22:18] <Bashing-om> backnforth: great ! .// OK, reboot and lets see what we have ..
[22:20] <backnforth> Bashing-om, ok
[22:20] <backnforth> rebooted
[22:20] <Bashing-om> backnforth: and no joy ?
[22:20] <backnforth> lemme see
[22:21] <Zythyr> rypervenche I created a randomy key and added to LUKS. In crypttab, I added a keyscript called "unlock.sh". The unlock.sh just does "cat /etc/crypt.key". "crypt.key" is my unlock key. This does seem to work. On reboot, I am still asked for a password
[22:22] <rypervenche> Zythyr: You don't need a script if you're just catting out the key. You can put the location of the key.
[22:23] <Zythyr> rypervenche Yes, I understand I can do location of key, but I am testing out to see if I can get it to work with keyscript instead of keyfile
[22:23] <rypervenche> Zythyr: Gotcha.
[22:23] <ramrebol_> hello. I was not connected to internet during the install of ubuntu, how can I install now all the recomended third party software? (In particular, my wifi is not working, and I think that installing this could fix this problem)
[22:24] <backnforth> Bashing-om, Same thing
[22:24] <Bashing-om> ramrebol_: Easiest is to connect wired amd activate " additional Drivers " utility to intall wireless drivers .
[22:25] <jeco> Hello. I'm experiecing system crashes for months. It is related to a unity crash. The issue in the system log is "Jan 28 20:08:04 jeco-pc kernel: [ 6010.512593] traps: unity-panel-ser[2115] general protection ip:406ea9 sp:7fff1c60dfc0 error:0 in unity-panel-service[400000+12000]"
[22:25] <Bashing-om> backnforth: what shows ' dpkg -l xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu ' ?
[22:25] <ramrebol_> Bashing-om: thanks, I will prove that
[22:25] <jeco> I reported a question on launchpad, but no answer in weeks.
[22:26] <jeco> what I'm supposed to do?
[22:26] <backnforth> Bashing-om, https://hastebin.com/vuwuhavevo.sql
[22:26] <Bashing-om> ramrebol_: Some of the WIFI drivers are proprietary .. will then have some hoops to jump through ( BCM ???) .
[22:28] <Bashing-om> backnforth: Well, the driver is there and is installed . so back to if it is loaded .. ' sudo lshw -C display ' .
[22:28] <backnforth> Bashing-om, https://hastebin.com/sofexubupe.pl
[22:31] <Bashing-om> backnforth: And no driver loaded .. what shows ' lsmod | grep amdgpu ' ?
[22:32] <backnforth> Bashing-om, https://hastebin.com/yuwaxujima.pl
[22:33] <Bashing-om> backnforth: Scratching my head . as the driver is available .. back soonest I have something to add .
[22:33] <jeco> I'm having a unity crash for months. After any panel button click the system becomes totally unresposive. My log points this issue: "Jan 28 20:08:04 jeco-pc kernel: [ 6010.512593] traps: unity-panel-ser[2115] general protection ip:406ea9 sp:7fff1c60dfc0 error:0 in unity-panel-service[400000+12000]". Has anybody have a clue?
[22:34] <Zythyr> rypervenche If my keyscript is as simple as "cat /etc/crypt.key", do I need to do anything else? Like do I need to make any changes to initiramfs?
[22:35] <sky> hey I just deleted my /etc/nginx/sites-available/default file, how can I restore it?
[22:36] <sky> or figure out what it was
[22:38] <devel> If you just freshly installed it i would go for apt-get purge nginx and apt-get install nginx
[22:39] <devel> else just google it, it's a config that provides information for your nginx webserver about sites hosted
[22:39] <sky> I was wondering if there is place to find the file to reinstall
[22:40] <Zythyr> rypervenche Ahh looks like it can be a bug https://askubuntu.com/questions/906870/luks-keyscript-being-ignored-asks-for-password
[22:41] <rypervenche> Zythyr: The script has to be in the initramfs.
[22:41] <sky> just apt-get purged nginx then apt-get isntalled nginx, still file not there
[22:41] <rypervenche> Zythyr: AH yeah. I haven't done this kind of setup on Ubuntu.
[22:42] <Zythyr> rypervenche I remember reading somewhere that if I put the keyscript in /lib/cryptsetup/scripts/, then it automatically gets loaded into the initramfs
[22:43] <krytarik> sky: 'nginx-common'
[22:44] <sky> thanks
[22:44] <sky> guess I could have looked in that package
[22:49] <Bashing-om> backnforth: OK, back, got a plan :)
[22:49] <backnforth> awesome
[22:53] <catbadger> ok I'm starting to sweat here.
[22:53] <catbadger> ok, so I rebooted into root console and added a user and added them to the sudo group. I can login directly to the console as that user, but can't ssh in as them. what gives?
[22:53] <catbadger> sshd says "invalid user"
[22:54] <raidghost> weird
[22:54] <raidghost> And how did you add them to sudo group?
[22:54] <Bashing-om> backnforth: Run ' sudo apt purge amdgpu* ; sudo apt update; sudo apt full-upgrade ; sudo apt install --reinstall dkms ; sudo apt install xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu ; sudo apt install --reinstall libgl1-mesa-glx libgl1-mesa-dri xserver-xorg-core ; sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ; sudo update-initramfs -u ' . Re-boot again to see the effect :)
[22:54] <catbadger> usermod -aG
[22:55] <catbadger> thing is, this is my web server. it absolutely needs to have ssh access for management and coding
[23:00] <jeco> I'm having a systematic system crashes. Could someone, please, take a look at my question at https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/663175
[23:02] <picklepickle> hello
[23:02] <picklepickle> oops forgot to change my name
[23:04] <backnforth> Hi, the restart didn't go well. I'm going a black screen, and my keyboard and mouse won't light up
[23:05] <devel> on what system?
[23:05] <backnforth> can someone ping the person I was talking to
[23:06] <Bashing-om> backnforth: Ouch ! what in the world ? I can not see what re-installing the components to have had that result . can you boot to the F2 terminal from the login screen ?
[23:07] <backnforth> bashing-om, I can't get to the login screen
[23:08] <Bashing-om> backnforth: Can you then boot to the grub boot menu and from there activate the root console ?
[23:08] <catsoesh> .
[23:09] <backnforth> bashing-om how do I do that?
[23:10] <Bashing-om> backnforth: efi system ? reboot and as soon as the bios screen clears spam the escape key ; else legacy system hold down a shift key .
[23:10] <devel> From my experience, bad kernel, so just boot with another one, from grub menu/reinstall your desktop enviroment, or try to start it from ctrl alt f6
[23:10] <devel> From my experience, either bad kernel, so just boot with another one, from grub menu/reinstall your desktop enviroment, or try to start it from ctrl alt f6
[23:11] <backnforth> bashing-om, ok I'm in grub
[23:12] <Bashing-om> backnforth: "advanced options" -> choose the latest recovery kernel.
[23:13] <backnforth> i don't see that as an option in grub
[23:14] <Bashing-om> backnforth: Are you in the grub menu or at a grub > - prompt ?
[23:14] <backnforth> prompt
[23:16] <filesjahjfd> my google skills are sucks. I need to disable the discrete nvidia gpu and force ubuntu to use the intel onboard gpu. I'm running a laptop 7700HQ and gtx 1070
[23:16] <Bashing-om> backnforth: the prompt from an attempt to activate a recovery kernel from the menu ? such that grub can not find it's config files ?
[23:17] <backnforth> it just says: grub>
[23:17] <backnforth> I never did anything since then
[23:17] <Bashing-om> filesjahjfd: can you not use the GUI utlity 'nvidia-prime' to switch graphic's sets ?
[23:18] <filesjahjfd> Bashing-om, no for what ever reason ubuntu crashes when I switch to the onboard gpu using nvidia-prime
[23:18] <Bashing-om> backnforth: Is this an EFI endowed system ?
[23:19] <backnforth> not sure if it booted from UEFI or not
[23:19] <filesjahjfd> is noveau.runpm=0 a proper call to the kernel ??
[23:19] <backnforth> it has both
[23:21] <Bashing-om> filesjahjfd: filesjahjfd One should be able to turn off the nvidia driver in bios, but better why not find the cause of the issue ? what nvidia driver are you using for the 1070 card ?
[23:21] <filesjahjfd> Bashing-om, i'm not using the nvidia-bios just the nouveau
[23:21] <backnforth> ok
[23:22] <backnforth> it's because I was pressing ESC and delete too many times
[23:22] <filesjahjfd> Bashing-om, I dualboot, and want to game on Windows.. So disabling it in Bios is a hassle
[23:22] <backnforth> do you want me to go in recovery mode?
[23:23] <Bashing-om> backnforth: Ouch -- I had not considered that "secure boot " ! that maybe the factor to prevent installing amdgpu-PRO , and messing things up ??
[23:23] <backnforth> I disabled secure boot
[23:23] <backnforth> I had it disabled
[23:28] <Dkeagle> Hi everybody
[23:28] <Dkeagle> i'm looking for a specific iso but i can't find it
[23:29] <Bashing-om> backnforth: Hummm .. got me .. get to the grub boot menu ; and try and boot an older kernel ?
[23:29] <backnforth> ok but which one
[23:29] <backnforth> there's recovery and non recovery mode
[23:30] <Dkeagle> i'm looking for the netboot installer of ubuntu server (16.04 or 17.10) for i386
[23:30] <filesjahjfd> meh fuck iy
[23:30] <Bashing-om> filesjahjfd: Do not know , never attempted to disable the nvidia card before . maybe as simple as blacklisting the nouveau driver ?
[23:31] <Bashing-om> backnforth: Just try an older normal kernel, does it boot ?
[23:31] <Ben64> Dkeagle: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/xenial-updates/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/
[23:33] <Dkeagle> Ben64: that's the normal ubuntu, i'm looking for ubuntu server
[23:33] <Ben64> no, that's for everything
[23:34] <Dkeagle> so i need to download the mini.iso thing ?
[23:34] <backnforth> bashing-om, I'm stuck at the first thing that came up which shows lubuntu, an image, and 5 dots changing colours
[23:34] <Dkeagle> and how do i install ubuntu server with it ?
[23:34] <Ben64> you'd choose it
[23:35] <Zythyr> How do I enable a systemd service that is on the system partitoin, but I am booted from a live USB
[23:35] <Bashing-om> backnforth: Yukkie poo . At this point I do think a re-install is the bettr thing to do . And let the installer install the driver it thinks best .
[23:36] <Dkeagle> Ben64: i had test this one yesterday and i got a normal ubuntu on my PC, it never ask me anything...
[23:36] <backnforth> bashing-om, did you want to do some further diagnostics after that?
[23:36] <Ben64> Dkeagle: it asks many things
[23:37] <Dkeagle> yeah, it ask name, nickname, password, language, keyboard detection, etc, but i never had the choice for a server version or anyrthing
[23:37] <Bashing-om> backnforth: Well, we can .. but that means from a full change root environment ..a lot of time and effort to see what we "might" be able to do . With no promise of a fix .
[23:38] <Zythyr> Question: If I create a service file in "/etc/systemd/system", is it enabled automatically?
[23:38] <ramrebol_> then to install ubuntu-restricted-extras  not appears the wifi option, how can I install it?
[23:38] <backnforth> bashing-om, ok I have about 3 hours
[23:38] <ramrebol_> (I did a fresh install of 16.04 version)
[23:40] <Bashing-om> backnforth: Boot a liveUSB .. and boot to it's boot menu . choose " boot from first hard drive " ( assuming that ubuntu is installed to that 1st drive ) . what results ?
[23:41] <backnforth> Bashing-om, oh ok how do I boot it's boot menu?
[23:42] <krytarik> ramrebol_: Bashing-om advised something else earlier - you might want to follow that.
[23:43] <Bashing-om> backnforth: as soon as the firmware screen clears . depress any key -> language screen; escape key to accept the default -> boot options screen .
[23:43] <Necm> hi
[23:43] <Necm> You are using pip version 8.1.1, however version 9.0.1 is available.
[23:43] <Necm> You should consider upgrading via the 'pip install --upgrade pip' command.
[23:43] <Necm> Successfully installed pip-9.0.1
[23:43] <Necm> ok :)
[23:44] <ramrebol_> krytarik: thanks, but I don't know how to follow that instruction :/
[23:44] <backnforth> Bashing-om what do I do at the grub menu
[23:46] <Bashing-om> backnforth: In the liveISB boot menu do you not see the option " boot from first hard drive ' ?
[23:46] <Bashing-om> liveUSB*
[23:46] <catbadger> somehow an allowedgroups entry got into my config
[23:46] <ramrebol_> krytarik: backnforth  only said that I will have problems, or something else? I did not find his instruction
[23:46] <catbadger> removed the line from the config. boom. all good.
[23:47] <Dkeagle> Ben64: so, i tested your iso on Virtual machine
[23:47] <Dkeagle> i ask langage
[23:47] <Dkeagle> country, keyboard, etc
[23:47] <backnforth> Bashing-om, I'm using the installer usb but at its grub boot menu I don't see anywhere that says boot from hard drive first
[23:48] <Dkeagle> name of computer, my real name, nickname
[23:48] <Dkeagle> password
[23:48] <Dkeagle> and it install
[23:48] <krytarik> ramrebol_:  < Bashing-om> ramrebol_: Easiest is to connect wired amd activate " additional Drivers " utility to intall wireless drivers .
[23:49] <Dkeagle> it's normal ubuntu
[23:49] <Dkeagle> not server...
[23:51] <Dkeagle> does anyone have a link for "ubuntu server (16.04 or 17.10) net install for i386" ?
[23:53] <Bashing-om> Dkeagle: http://releases.ubuntu.com/16.04/ .
[23:54] <Dkeagle> Bashing-om, those are the "normal" iso, i need the iso for net install
[23:54] <Ben64> Dkeagle: again, it asks you
[23:54] <Ben64> the mini iso can install anything
[23:55] <Dkeagle> No i don't, never, i tried on a VM and it's installing right now the normal ubuntu, it never ask me anything about the version i want to install
[23:56] <Dkeagle> Bashing-om, i need the mini iso because the computer i need to install only reads CD, and the normal iso is more than 700mo...
[23:56] <akik> Dkeagle: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[23:57] <Bashing-om> Dkeagle: Well, nother thought , the minimal install .iso will fit on a CD .
[23:58] <Dkeagle> Bashing-om, i know, but i can't find the mini iso for ubuntu SERVER
[23:58] <kk4ewt> http://mirror.cc.vt.edu/pub/ubuntu/ubuntu/dists/xenial/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/mini.iso
[23:58] <Dkeagle> akik, it's the same iso than Ben64, and it install NORMAL ubuntu, not server
[23:58] <Dkeagle> kk4ewt, same