[00:00] setting it up now [00:00] ill dd to test speed [00:00] Both servers need to be on the same layer 2 segment [00:00] yeah they are [00:00] okay cool [00:00] I'd be interested to see the speed test results [00:01] the negative i see is this will be great for the transfer but cannot REPLACE NFS as it looks like its similar to iscsi and cant be presented to multiple hosts simultaniously [00:01] yeah, it is only good for this transfer specifically [00:01] which is a great starting point hopefully [00:05] my system has been hanging with "page allocation faults" since I upgraded from 17.04 to 17.10 - seems that it runs out of memory and immediately spends like 15 minutes generating page allocation faults and being unresponsive [00:06] and then it recovers, however dmesg is too short to see the start of the issue, if there was something that started it other than a page allocation fault [00:06] chrios, this is crazy fasst [00:06] DirtyCajun: Did you get it set up? What sort of speeds are you seeing?? [00:06] so i had an extra empty disk [00:07] i added it and did it the opposite direction so i could differentiate the speed [00:07] dmesg only tracks around 3000 lines of error, that is only three minutes of errors and the hang lasts 15 minutes [00:07] its still going but a dd of 100 count of 1G files is averaging about 200Mbps [00:08] when its done ill paste the final MB/s [00:08] what might be the problem and how can I get longer output from dmesg? [00:08] using NFS you were getting 1.1Gbps tho right? [00:09] i was getting 1.1Gbps TOTAL with 10 concurrent threads going [00:09] so 100Mbps per [00:09] oh okay. I wonder how this will handle the concurrent threads [00:09] it uses a LOT more cpu though it seems [00:09] 10% vs 1 [00:09] I've never actually set up AoE before, so this is exciting for me [00:10] hahaha [00:14] https://pastebin.com/VzuZkjFP here is what a typical error looks like, there are 4000 lines of this in dmesg but it gets cut off [00:14] so really there are probably a lot more lines of it and possibly some initial unknown error starting the hang [00:15] from the trace it looks like kthreadd might be trying and failing to create new threads? for some reason? [00:15] also it runs out of swap even though I was looking at the swap graph when the problem initiated and no swap was used at that time [00:15] so somehow it chewed through 4 gb of swap [00:18] this time the problem occurred when I was running a tensorflow demo that uses a 500x500 array to simulate raindrops splashing in a pool, 500x500 should not be causing out of memory, but it's not a tensorflow problem [00:18] because it's happened before when I was watching twitch [00:20] chrios [00:20] looks like regardless of blocksize you get about the same average speed [00:20] output: [00:20] dd bs=1M count=10000 if=/dev/zero of=/tv1/speedtest2 conv=fdatasync [00:20] 10485760000 bytes (10 GB, 9.8 GiB) copied, 304.97 s, 34.4 MB/s [00:20] dd if=/dev/zero of=/tv1/speedtest bs=100G count=1 oflag=direct [00:20] 12884901888 bytes (13 GB, 12 GiB) copied, 395.193 s, 32.6 MB/s [00:22] 2nd Try: When I log in, ubuntu auto connects to wifi but it keeps asking for the password each time. I read something about keyring being the issue. What's the trick to fix? [00:31] see it http://pix.toile-libre.org/?img=1517099113.png [00:32] do I must be have to turn of swap? [00:32] there empty swap file and therefore mysql is sucking [00:37] !crosspost | Neo4 [00:37] Neo4: Please don't ask the same question in multiple Ubuntu channels at the same time. Many helpers are in more than one channel and it's not fair to them or the other people seeking support. [00:51] 3rd and Last Try (seems like it's simple but perhaps it's a super hard question and no one has the answer): When I log in, ubuntu auto connects to wifi but it keeps asking for the password each time. I read something about keyring being the issue. What's the trick to fix? === sun is now known as Guest32455 [00:59] How do I add "quicklists" to icons in 17.10? [01:02] So not new to Linux, but new to adminstering a linux server. In terms of best practices, which folders should you install packages in for your server? There are two users that perform admin roles for this server. [01:05] Okay well... Thanks anyways guys :/ [01:10] mornings, is there somehow a clean way to install mysql5.6 on 16.04? [01:13] steven, no https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mysql-5.7/ 5.6 is old and vulnerable [01:13] I am asking for 5.6 because I need 5.6 :) [01:14] I would use 5.7 if it was an option [01:14] nope, not in our repos, maybe you can build it from source, but that would be unsupported [01:15] thats ok, was just hoping there might be a way, imma have to figure something out then. thanks! [01:15] for an old source, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mysql-5.6/ [01:15] Hi! I'm having a problem installing Ubuntu on an UP Board. Whenever I install Ubuntu 14.06 (I believe) from the ISO on my USB, everything works out succesfully. However, when rebooting, I go back to the GRUB as though the install never happened [01:15] Just "trying ubuntu without installing" leaves me in a limbo where nothing even the terminal opens [01:16] Anyone has any idea what I should do? [01:16] trusty tahr is the old 14.04 .. [01:16] It's 16.04 apparently [01:17] Anyone? [01:18] 16.04 is the latest lts [01:18] hello, is it possible to use port 443 as an ssh port to access a server from an external pc? I was able to do this on windows 7 using cygwin, but not on windows 10 or Ubuntu. [01:19] (also, would there be a more appropriate place to ask my question?) [01:19] 18.04 the next lts should be out by the end of April [01:19] GuyL, i find an special wiki for that up board + ubuntu, https://wiki.up-community.org/Ubuntu [01:20] maybe that would be any help [01:21] the PPA mentioned covers 14.04 and 16.04 https://launchpad.net/~ubilinux/+archive/ubuntu/up [01:21] Hmm, I'll try writing those lines after a new install... Right now I'm checking disc for defects [01:21] taking a long time [01:22] No clue what a PPA is [01:22] !ppa [01:22] A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge [01:22] Would that be necessary [01:23] reading that wiki, it looks like you do [01:23] Here's what I've been following [01:23] This is in the context of a RealSense Robotic Devkit [01:23] https://01.org/developerjourney/recipe/intel-realsense-robotic-development-kit [01:24] I'd like to stick to that, but after step 4 (the install) I reboot and the install is just not there [01:24] I don't want to try anything that wouldn't work with the camera yknow\ [01:26] i see they use the same ppa with step 5 .. [01:27] not sure why it does not boot, your guide says it should [01:27] hmmmmmm [01:27] Disc has no defectw [01:27] Im stressed (I need to finish this today.....) [01:28] defects* [01:28] and trying those sudo command in the grub or the shell doesn't work [01:28] Do you know what could be happening right now? [01:28] (or other live support places I could go to?) [01:29] GuyL, did you select 'Download updates' as the writer did not select that? [01:29] No didn't have that option [01:29] I did another install and in that one I might've... but nothing changed [01:30] I basically did everything the writer did, except at some point I got a textbox he didn't [01:30] I'll try the install again so I can tell you what it is.. [01:30] oke, that might be the culprit, not sure what else could be responcible [01:35] any way to remove this dumb disconnect message spam [01:35] ill link you a picture, is that fine? [01:36] https://i.imgur.com/0dmwx4n.jpg [01:36] Here [01:37] (are there more people here to help usually?) [01:39] oerheks? === eddie is now known as Guest59206 [01:41] oeeerheeeeks [01:44] why is this empty :( [01:46] Question: I have a syslog growing quickly out of control and filling my SSD. I'm looking at this page for help at the moment: https://askubuntu.com/questions/184949/how-do-i-limit-the-size-of-my-syslog [01:48] bobsmith83: What one does is "look" at the log and see what is the cause of the spam and correct the issue . [01:48] Can someone help me review my /etc/logrotate.d/rsyslog and see if its set up right? I'd like to set a size limit first, then proceed to testing and see if i can find out whats filling it so quick [01:49] oh, so helpful bashing! ty so much indeed! [01:49] how would an idiot like me actually LOOK at a ZLOG? [01:49] plz enlighten me [01:51] bobsmith83: Pastebin the peace of the syslog that is repeating so, see what we can read into it . [01:53] lets say my syslog is 100GB, how can I open it? [01:55] bobsmith83: Try ' less /var/log/syslog ' . See if less can load that large of a file . [01:55] If oerheks comes back: looks as though my problem's fixed for now. Thanks anyways :) === lynn is now known as Guest88887 [02:01] will the less app read .gz? looks like the system is purging older syslogs as it should per /etc/logrotate.d/rsyslog... === Guest88887 is now known as gryphon [02:02] bobsmith83: no, but zless will [02:04] thx dax... looking at it now... [02:08] gstsystemclock: write control failed in wakeup_async, trying again: 11:Resource temporarily unavailable [02:09] seems to be the repeating theme... [02:09] and : gst_poll_write_control: assertion 'set != NULL' failed [02:14] bobsmith83: New one on me .. no idea off the top of my head.. Others heer will advise better . [02:16] i suspect tux paint kids program might be cause, that's what we were using last... [02:16] might need to test again. [02:17] I'd still like to set a size limit in my /etc/logrotate.d/rsyslog How do i do that? === absynth is now known as dan2wik [02:21] bobsmith83: maxsize, see the 'logrotate' man page for further details. [02:21] is there a way I can avoid using add-apt-repository? It seems kind of silly that it has two dependencies [02:21] Just did an upgrade from 16.04 to 17.10, whatever the session manager is called works, but when I log in, black screen then back to login window... should I run a config tool or something? [02:22] bobsmith83: this will not solve the issue of many writes to the syslog, though [02:22] (nor the root cause, of course) [02:22] I'm wondering where I can find clang-cpp on Ubuntu? I installed clang and only got clang and clang++ [02:23] understood. but it will solve the symptom of my SSD filling up [02:23] i dont know why the maxsize isnt set by default already [02:23] because you loose possibly relevant history, i would think [02:24] what shall i set it too? and do i just add a line into /etc/logrotate.d/rsyslog and save it? [02:24] compressed logs are going to be small either way [02:24] set it to what you consider to be suitable, and after saving the file, restart rsyslogd [02:25] ignatius_: Sounds like the proprietary graphic's driver broke in the upgrade process. Is this nvidia for the GPU ? [02:25] oerheks [02:25] nvm, thought I was typing in ctrl+f, sorry [02:25] how do i restart rsyslog? [02:26] Bashing-om: yep nvidia card...\ [02:26] bobsmith83: sudo service rsyslog restart [02:26] thx [02:26] bobsmith83: which ubuntu release is this? lsb_release -sd [02:27] ignatius_: K; at the login screen - key combo ctl+alt+F2 to gain a console interface, can you log into the system here ? [02:28] latest LTS [02:28] 16.04 i thinks [02:28] Bashing-om: yep. [02:28] bobsmith83: if you'll run the command i provided you'll know for sure. [02:29] Ubuntu 16.04.3 LTS [02:29] bobsmith83: which web browser do you use? [02:29] firefox [02:29] Bashing-om: Do I want nvidia-384? [02:30] bobsmith83: hmm okay then i don't know. searching for your error messages i only came across this https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/gstreamer-bugs/2016-February/168455.html [02:31] bobsmith83: gst (as in 'gstsystemclock' and 'gst_poll_write_control') stands for "gstreamer", which is the gtk (gnome graphical toolkit) way of handling a/V media [02:32] bobsmith83: actually it's not GTK related, i was wrong [02:33] bobsmith83: it's still a multi media library, though, used by chrommium (chrome), several audio and video players, and other applications which handle audio and video. i'm not sure about firefox. [02:33] bobsmith83: still, it's very unusual that these messages would end up on your syslog. [02:34] agreed [02:34] ignatius_: Well, if ya willing to take a stab in the dark that it is the graphic's driver; - *secure boot* disabled and run ' sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf ; sudo pirge nvidia* ; sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall ; reboot to see the effect . [02:35] Nice. Thanks. [02:35] bobsmith83: are you using any PPAs? [02:36] PPA? [02:36] ignatius_: ** sudo purge nvidia* - typo ^ [02:36] !ppa | bobsmith83 [02:36] bobsmith83: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge [02:36] bobsmith83: ...or non-packaged software? [02:37] I've installed some apps from software center, and some thru apt-get... [02:38] I added the graphics driver from "additional drivers" but reverted back to the free driver... [02:38] 4k monitors on ubuntu is kind of bad [02:39] 1080p monitors on ubuntu is kind of bad === brainwash_ is now known as brainwash [02:44] Hi everyone :) I've got a 16.04 install which has developed what looks like a graphics problem. I can boot to [02:44] Deihmos: Maybe of some help: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/HiDPI . [02:45] The login screen and can successfully log in, but the desktop never shows and is just covered in artifacts instead. At the same time, error reports start popping up in the to left, once after the other, quicker than I can click on them to to anything. [02:45] The unity desktop not included [02:46] I've tried booting previous kernels, but the result is the same, regardless [02:46] bobsmith83: okay, this sounds entirely standard. something must be non-standard since there are so little search results for the error messages you provided. [02:46] The scaling is either 100 200 300 [02:46] No option to custom scale [02:46] If anyone would be willing to hold my hand for a bit, that would be awesome because I have nfi where to even start with this one, haha [02:46] snufft: At the login screen, Key combo ctl+alt+F2 to gain a comsole interface, can you log into the system here ? [02:48] yup. [02:48] its alittle unusual hardware, i guess. lenovo ideacenter a730 all-in-one touchscreen... [02:48] Bashing-om yes, I'm logged in there now :) [02:49] its dual booted with windows 7 [02:51] snufft: Run ' sudo lshw -C display | nc termbin.com 9999 ' the result is a URL back in terminal, pass that link back here and we see what we have to work with . [02:52] bobsmith83: hmm no i don't thinkt he hardware explains it. but i guess without further information it will not be possible to look into this more. [02:52] Bashing-om http://termbin.com/g51g [02:53] i will try to repeat the problem and report back later. any other suggested troubleshooting steps? [02:54] bobsmith83: try to find the first occurrence of the messages you quoted on your syslog and check the surrounding messages, since it might help identify the root cause. [02:55] bobsmith83: i will be gone later, but when you get to talk to someone else, be sure to put their nickname in front of what you type here, so they'll know you addressed them. [02:55] tomreyn: thank you for your help [02:56] bobsmith83: i just read that the 'pidgin' software might also be emitting those messages. [02:56] welcome === rob is now known as RobWilco [02:58] snufft: Well, AMD graphics, and the correct driver is loaded . I do not know much else that I can do , If ya boot into the guest account is the GUI functional there ? Maybe this is a user session config issue ? [03:01] Bashing-om I just had a go at the guest session and it starts out the same, but then ends in a blue screen with no errors, but no desktop 😂 [03:01] i never use an IM such as pidgin, but something else might be calling it i guess [03:04] Bashing-om those popup error messages, do they normally print to a log file somewhere? [03:08] snufft: error reporting . in your home directory is the log file " .xsession-errors " also might see that the journal has . And maybe we can install the amdgou driver ?? what shows : lspci -k | grep -EA2 'VGA|3D' ? [03:09] amdgpu* driver . [03:15] Bashing-om .xsession-errors is empty :( lspci output is: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Tahiti XT Radeon HD 7970/8970 OEM / R9 280X Subsystem: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd Tahiti XT Radeon HD 7970/8970 OEM / R9 280X] kernel driver in use: radeon === Judy is now known as Guest38732 [03:21] Bashing-om maybe the card is on the way out? [03:28] snufft: Here we need someone with AMD experience - Natbe ine can run amdpro with that card ?? : https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amdgpu-rad-49&num=1 . I do not know the differene to Tahiti-pro driver . [03:29] Maybe one can run amdgpu driver ** [03:34] set [03:35] set [03:35] oops === mike_ is now known as Guest47426 === r0Oter is now known as r00ter [03:45] Bashing-om article looks promising. I'll give it a shot. Thanks for all of your help :) [03:45] Bashing-om++ [03:47] snufft: Proceed with caution, as I am not convinced the amdgpu driver will work . [04:01] So upgrded from 16.04 and get into gdm3 fine but don't have the gear by the password box and when login it just goes black then back to gdm? [04:10] Bashing-om no worries, will do :) Thanks again for your help :) [04:18] can anyone help me get this script working? I am failing horribly: https://github.com/phillijw/ynab/blob/master/Dockerfile [04:19] snufft: Too : see: https://wiki.debian.org/AtiHowTo the firmware section . make sure the firmware is installed . === xqb`` is now known as xqb [04:21] has anyone had any luck installing GNOME gui in kubuntu using synaptic package manager? [04:55] Need help. I am running a Ubuntu live USB. How do I check if its running in UEFI mode or BIOS legacy mode? [04:58] nvm ignore the question, i found soluiton https://askubuntu.com/questions/162564/how-can-i-tell-if-my-system-was-booted-as-efi-uefi-or-bios [05:00] Need help. I created a live USB for Ubuntu 16 Desktop. When I connect to my Dell Latitude 2120, it just boots to a black screen with a blinking cursor. Why is it doing that? I think this ssytem supports UEFI mode because when I go to BIOS, I see the mouse curor which I think is an indicatoion of UEFI support [05:01] what the heck is this command doing and why doesnt it work in 16.04? localedef -v -c -i en_US -f UTF-8 en_US.UTF-8 || : [05:02] it gives me this: character map file `UTF-8' not found: No such file or directory [05:03] Desktop or server? [05:03] phillijw - ^ ? [05:04] its a docker container so just a slimmed down base version? So maybe neither? [05:04] I'm having an issue with Server 17.10. now that it's installed, I get a character typed on the console every second or so, even with no keyboard attached. [05:05] Best thing to do is uncomment the en_US.UTF-8 line in /etc/locale.gen (with sudo) and then run [ sudo locale-gen ] [05:05] It doesn't appear to happen in other OSes [05:05] tanuki - What character? [05:06] It shows up as ^@ [05:09] Menzador: since this is docker, is there a way to do that via a command? [05:09] no interaction [05:15] !nomodeset | Zythyr [05:15] Zythyr: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter [05:15] phillijw - You can't run nano? [05:16] Menzador: are you familiar with docker? It's an automated script that sets up the machine with no user interaction [05:16] Oh OK, you're using a script [05:16] Any idea what could be causing this? [05:16] Menzador: here's the script if you're interested https://github.com/phillijw/ynab/blob/master/Dockerfile [05:17] Bashing-om ubottu I am not even getting to an option where I can type "nomodeset" kernal parameter. When PC boots, I see the Dell logo, then it boots from USB, but directly I see a black screen with blinking curor. I never saw the Ubuntu menu [05:17] I used Rufus to make the USB [05:21] Zythyr: At the purple splash screen (stick figure keyboard emblems at bottom of screen) -> hit any key -> [05:21] Language screen -> escape key to accept the default -> [05:22] Booting options screen -> F6 key [05:22] phillijw - it seems to spit out a tonne of errors. [05:22] Bashing-om Thats the problem, I never even get to the purple screen [05:24] Zythyr: Ouch .. did you verfy the .iso download ? http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows . [05:29] Ubuntu live CD is not working. Freezes on the Ubuntu logo. What could be wrong? [05:29] Something to do with some BIOS option? [05:30] I created the USB in Rufus using GPT option [05:32] Bashing-om Yes, the ISO is fine I have used the same ISO on multiple other PCs [05:40] Zythyr: EFI machine, try as soon as the bios screen clears spamming the escape key . [05:42] Bashing-om ubottu I managed to boot to purple screen on but only way I was able to get there is if I create the live USB using "MBR partition scheme for BIOS or UEFI" when I use Rufus. I don't get to the purple screen if I use GPT partition [05:43] I need help with a USB optical mouse not working. Any takers? [05:44] Goddammit. Reinstalled and the same happened. [05:44] I get a "^@" every second or so getting typed. [05:45] Wasup? [05:46] Optical mouse is a RadioShack brand (actual manufacturer: PixArt). Judging by dmesg, the kernel actually picks it up. However, the mouse still won't work. [05:46] Wheres the channel to just talk at random? [05:48] Ubuntu live USB is not working. Freezes on the Ubuntu logo after i select the try withou installling option. What could be wrong? [05:49] Something to do with some BIOS option? [05:49] Bashing-om Using the ESC key didn't help. [05:49] Guddu, what are the specs of your PC? [05:50] Bashing-om Its funny that BIOS has a "Enable legacy USB emulation" option. Is it safe to assume that this mean my BIOS supports UEFI? [05:50] ......Woof? [05:51] Guddu, what are your Specs on the PC? [05:51] ubuntu-mate, Its a ASUS ROG GL552VW laptop [05:51] https://www.asus.com/ROG-Republic-Of-Gamers/ROG-GL552VW/ [05:51] Ram and CPU please, also any GPU [05:52] opening now [05:52] ubuntu-mate, 16GB RAM [05:53] thats alot of ram, is the CPU i386 or 64bit? [05:53] (link not wanting to open) [05:54] ubuntu-mate, 64Bit [05:55] Alright, what type of CPU? like, whats the name of it? [05:56] ubuntu-mate, Intel® Core™ i7 6700HQ Processor, [05:56] ubuntu-mate, NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 960M [05:56] ...thats not bad.. the onlything i THINK may be an issue is the GPU but that shouldnt be a problem... [05:57] try CTRL+ALT+F1 and try that [05:57] 123 [05:57] nihao [05:57] hallo [05:58] hi [05:58] Zythyr: I too would assume that efi booting would be available . [06:00] ubuntu-mate, CTRL-ALT-F1 where? On the frozen screen? [06:04] Bashing-om I jsut got off the phone with Dell. Appranelty they are saying that it doesn't support UEFI mode. Thats weird because the BIOS has a mouse curous for me to navigate with. I recall someone telling me in the past that if BIOS has a mouse cursor, then it supports UEFI mode [06:05] Zythyr, it doesn't really seem like those two things would be connected other than in a very general 'progression of more advanced bios features' way [06:06] Zythyr: Have not heard that .. But lots I have not heard , [06:07] Assuming my system doesn't support UEFI booting, is there any drawback of running a Ubuntu Server is legacy mode? [06:09] Zythyr: Just that efi supports a larger block size and is a tad faster in file exercises . [06:13] larger block size? What does this mean/ [06:14] Also, when I install Ubuntu, will I be able to use GPT partition scheme? [06:15] yes [06:15] Could someone please help? [06:17] Ubuntu live USB is not working. Freezes on the Ubuntu logo after i select the try withou installling option. What could be wrong? [06:17] Something to do with some BIOS option? [06:18] Zythyr: 4096 as the sector size as opposed to 512 . [06:24] ahh ok [06:24] there [06:24] thanks [06:25] anybody here ?? [06:26] Hi [06:36] #!/usr/bin/python [06:36] a = raw_input("type a number:") [06:36] a = a + 1 [06:36] print (a) [06:36] what is wrong? [06:37] File "./prueba.py", line 3, in [06:37] a = a + 1 [06:37] TypeError: cannot concatenate 'str' and 'int' objects [06:46] mike7, raw_input converts the input to string. And you cannnot concatenate str and int [06:47] TL;DR: wrap the raw_input() call in int(). [06:48] Or float() if you need one. [06:54] Guddu: thanks a lot [06:54] i changed to input( ) and it works good [06:54] i wanna work only in python3 and forget python2 [06:54] im in linux [06:54] how can i change it? [06:54] i tryied apt-get install python3 and apt-get remove python2, but it doesnt work [06:55] tanuki: thanks [06:59] with the new launcher in 17.10 at the left (what is the name for it btw?) is there any way I can configure it so if I have multiple of an app open, and I click on the icon in the launcher, it automatically switches to the most recently open window of that app, instead of making me click a second time to select it? [07:00] also I find that alt-tab brings all windows of a given application to the front, and I'd prefer if it only brought forward the most recent window [07:01] im learning python, do i should learn first shell scripting? [07:01] mike7: python3 is installed by default on newer Ubuntus. /usr/bin/python is python V2.7, /usr/bin/python3 is what it says [07:01] hggdh: so i should change the shebang? [07:02] to python3 [07:02] mike7: if you want python3, yes. [07:03] mike7: also: you do not *need* to learn shell (scripting) but if you are working on Linux/UNIX, it will help a lot. [07:04] * hggdh goes to bed [07:04] hggdh: thanks [07:05] i already changed to python3 in my shebang , but my script started to have problems [07:05] Traceback (most recent call last): [07:05] File "./prueba.py", line 3, in [07:05] a = a + 1 [07:05] TypeError: must be str, not int [07:05] i have zsh, in all desktops that i have, if i cd into a folder, open open a file name, and insert it's name misspelled, or the actual file has Capital words in it and i enter lower-case it fixes my input. i don't have it in my newly installed zsh. how would i enable it? i didn't find anything in .zhrc file! [07:05] and when i put without 3 in shebang, it works good [07:07] #!/usr/bin/python3 [07:07] a = input("type a number:") [07:07] a = a + 1 [07:07] print (a) [07:09] Question: I am installing Ubuntu on a system that does NOT support UEFI. However, the HDD will have GPT partition scheme. In the future, I plan on transfering the HDD to another system that will support UEFI mode. What will I need to do to take advtange of UEFI when I move the HDD to new system? [07:13] maybe is not neccesary shell scripting, i can jump it, and going to python quickly, but if im learning i think it will teach me the base to understand linux and python, right? i mean when you learn language it helps to another, right? [07:13] !uefi | Zythyr [07:13] Zythyr: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI [07:13] i mean its not about programming, but it will helps to understand linux [07:14] is it good idea ? to start first with shell scripting [07:14] Zythyr: you will need an efi partition, and you will need to switch to the right grub when on the new machine [07:18] ducasse So will it be as simple as formatting the BIOS parition and installing GRUB on it leaving the system and data partition untouched? [07:19] Zythyr: the efi partition needs to be bigger than a bios partition [07:20] Ahh I found this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI [07:21] ducasse Can I make my BIOS partition ~600MB even though it dones't need to be that big expecting that in the future I will switch to UEFI? [07:22] Zythyr: sure [07:23] Zythyr: but 600m is overkill, 100 is plenty [07:24] Is it possible to do an "in-place" upgrade of ubuntu without having to backup and reinstall data? [07:24] JoeLlama: upgrades always preserve your /home [07:24] thanks :) [07:24] JoeLlama: but wisely, the users should make backups externally at all times [07:25] so do not select erase option.. [07:25] yes backups are good [07:25] JoeLlama, of course ... usually followed by "OMG! I need to restore lost data!" [07:25] the data is not worth anything [07:25] just was curious [07:25] ahh. different. then punch that upgrade! [07:25] is that under the "do something else" option? [07:26] I'll figure it out [07:26] JoeLlama, "do something else" = manually partitioning [07:26] oh.,.. [07:26] so then wait lemme look [07:26] well I don't see upgrade [07:27] I see "erase disk and install ubuntu" [07:27] encrypt new install [07:27] JoeLlama, you're in a live boot session? then you won't see it. "in-place upgrade" is launched from the current install. [07:27] use LVM [07:27] and "something else" [07:28] hrm o k well I suppose I'll see it when it pops up [07:31] so what do I select, erase hard drive? or will it say something else since I always have a filesystem in place? [07:32] JoeLlama: you boot your ubuntu install and run the upgrade there [07:32] oh ok then I'll see it [07:32] I really like ubuntu [07:32] windows really sux [07:33] jojijji [07:34] on these little boxes using an atom 1.6G they will play large videos nicely without added hardware and on another box, same processor and a broadcom crystal video processor it's still a little glitchy [07:34] ducasse This guide is saying to have EFI partition size of 550 MB https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManualFullSystemEncryption/DetailedProcessPartitionFormatEncrypt [07:34] crystalHD [07:34] hello [07:35] anybody there [07:36] no anand all 1439 other users are not here [07:36] Zythyr: that might be, you could need it if you are going to install other operating systems or linux distros in addition to ubuntu. with just ubuntu you won't need that much. [07:39] ducasse Ahh oka [07:39] I applied for a job at Microsoft but they said I wasn't qualified. I had no ability to write slow and bloated code :( [07:39] Is the BIOS boot parition FAT32? In this article it says EFI partition is FAT32 but doens't say anything about BIOS boot parition [07:40] Zythyr: iirc the bios partition does not need to be formatted at all [07:42] !ask | anand [07:42] anand: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience [07:43] ducasse So its is just empty space? [07:44] Zythyr: grub writes to it without requiring a filesystem [07:46] need food === EriC^ is now known as EriC^^ [07:47] anand, check your channel. this is ubuntu support. [07:52]