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[09:51] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_unstable_extra-cmake-modules build #51: FIXED in 24 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_unstable_extra-cmake-modules/51/ [09:52] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project mgmt_docker » linode-01 build #2033: SUCCESS in 49 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/mgmt_docker/label=linode-01/2033/ [09:52] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project mgmt_docker » master build #2033: SUCCESS in 1 min 6 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/mgmt_docker/label=master/2033/ [09:55] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project mgmt_docker » swy-01 build #2033: SUCCESS in 3 min 55 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/mgmt_docker/label=swy-01/2033/ [11:43] Howdy folks [13:29] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_knotifications build #480: FAILURE in 8 min 50 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_knotifications/480/ [13:38] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project xenial_unstable_knotifications build #481: STILL FAILING in 3 min 33 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/xenial_unstable_knotifications/481/ [15:45] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project mgmt_docker » linode-01 build #2034: SUCCESS in 48 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/mgmt_docker/label=linode-01/2034/ [15:46] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project mgmt_docker » master build #2034: SUCCESS in 1 min 3 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/mgmt_docker/label=master/2034/ [15:48] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project mgmt_docker » swy-01 build #2034: SUCCESS in 3 min 40 sec: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/mgmt_docker/label=swy-01/2034/ === himcesjf_ is now known as him-cesjf === claydoh is now known as Guest20059 === himcesjf_ is now known as him-cesjf === himcesjf_ is now known as him-cesjf [22:37] tomazcanabrava was added by: tomazcanabrava [22:38] nggraham was added by: nggraham [22:38] Hello [22:39] I'm a full-time Kubuntu user, and Valorie invited me here to bring up my list of issues and papercuts with the aim of addressing some of them before the next release [22:39] prepare for a pastebomb... [22:39] Major issues … ------------ … - Samba doesn't prompt the user to create a Samba password when first installed, or re-use the existing one … -- https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1700588 … - On systems based on Ubuntu 16.04 (such as KDE Neon), MS Office documents open as zip archives using Ark when Krusader is installed because of really old version of shared-mime-info … -- https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=384991 … [22:39] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/1572244 … Minor issues … ------------ … Ubuntu doesn't compile Okular with text-to-speech capabilities … - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/okular/+bug/1717131 … kde-thumbnailer-openoffice doesn't work in Plasma 5; no ODF previews … - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-thumbnailer-openoffice/+bug/1711566 … Kubuntu Dolphin package's appstream [22:39] instead of its own … - https://phabricator.kde.org/T7717 … Ubuntu doesn't package the Discover Snap backend … - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-discover/+bug/1742298 … Feature requests/nice-to-haves … ------------------------------ … - Adopt openSUSE patch that adds high-res icons for Firefox and Thunderbird, so the Large Icons task switcher in KDE Plasma doesn't have ugly icons … -- [22:39] Launchpad bug 1700588 in samba (Ubuntu) "samba package should be included in the live session/default installation, and create a user+passwords identical to the main user account" [Undecided,Opinion] [22:39] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/1715213 … -- https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mozilla-thunderbird/+bug/1715214 … In Kubuntu, plasma-discover-flatpak-backend should add flathub repo during installation … - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-discover/+bug/1737645 … Use better font anti-aliasing settings by default … - https://phabricator.kde.org/T7618 [22:39] KDE bug 384991 in general "Open XML files get opened in Ark instead of LibreOffice (or other specified app)" [Normal,Unconfirmed] [22:39] Launchpad bug 1572244 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "Kubuntu requires that the WiFi password be entered twice before WiFi can be used" [Medium,Confirmed] [22:39] Launchpad bug 1717131 in okular (Ubuntu) "Compile Okular with libqt5texttospeech5" [Undecided,Confirmed] [22:39] Launchpad bug 1711566 in kde-thumbnailer-openoffice (Ubuntu) "[patch] Does not work in Plasma 5" [Undecided,Confirmed] [22:39] Launchpad bug 1742298 in plasma-discover (Ubuntu) "Snap backend not packaged" [Undecided,New] [22:39] Launchpad bug 1715213 in firefox (Ubuntu) "Adopt openSUSE patch that adds high-res icons for Firefox, so the Large Icons task switcher in KDE Plasma doesn't have an ugly Firefox icon" [Undecided,New] [22:39] Launchpad bug 1715214 in mozilla-thunderbird (Ubuntu) "Adopt openSUSE patch that adds high-res icons for Thunderbird, so the Large Icons task switcher in KDE Plasma doesn't have an ugly Thunderbird icon" [Undecided,New] [22:39] Launchpad bug 1737645 in plasma-discover (Ubuntu) "plasma-discover-flatpak-backend should add flathub repo during installation" [Undecided,New] [22:42] nggraham I will try to clean up the paste and send it to the devel list too [22:43] as most of our devels are probably already going to sleep right now [22:43] thank you, and sorry for imposing a formatting clean-up task. I can email it to you directly if you'd like [22:43] and I should probably join that mailing list [22:43] that would be best, yes [22:44] I think the devels will probably end up with a phab task for some [22:44] done [22:44] and the others *might* be easily fixed [22:44] one is already a Phabricator task :) [22:44] oh, add the link to your list! [22:44] we use the KDE phab in Kubuntu as well [22:45] it's on there! It's the font AA one [22:45] I'll send an email to the list [22:45] ah, now I see it [22:45] many of our devels also work with neon [22:45] so it's a group papercut-fixing /packaging fixing [22:46] not with everything, but lots [22:50] sent the email! [23:05] thanks, @nggraham [23:05] we love user feedback! [23:06] and of course always like help fixing stuff as well [23:06] odd that plasma-discover isn't snapped [23:06] neon prides themselves on doing that post-haste [23:06] FYI, one of my long-term KDE goals is to make one distro the no-brainer obvious choice for getting KDE software. If want that to be Kubuntu, I'll be more than happy to help a serious effort [23:06] yeah well, they package Snap, but it doesn't actually work there 😛 [23:07] I've always wanted that [23:07] oh, if there is a package and it doesn't work..... [23:07] yeah, *everyone* wants that. But it doesn't exist! I've always thought it should be Kubuntu, and I really think it's possible with a bit of spit and polish [23:08] most of use don't like snap much to be frank [23:08] but sitter certainly does! [23:08] and so does sgclark [23:09] personally I'm a Flatpak kind of guy [23:09] but I don't care which one wins, so long as one does, or else we're back to the same old deb vs rpm thing all over again [23:09] I mean, I'm on the neon team too, so those who want that approach, I think it should be the best too [23:09] of course [23:12] Would you like me to file Phabricator tasks for those, or do you want your team to handle it? [23:12] I ash because there are even more aspirational things I'd like to ask for to take Kubuntu to the next level, such as using a picture for the lock and login screens instead of the default ugly blue background [23:13] lets talk about this on the list, OK [23:13] * valorie fires up the email [23:13] ok [23:30] @nggraham replied on a couple of those bugs. qttexttospeech is on my mental list to enable, and the snap backend for discover is already turned back on in our packaing for 5.12 [23:30] acheronuk: \o/ [23:31] I'm looking at the bugs etc one by one right now [23:32] never noticed the breeze cursor one, but I don't use that cursor theme generally [23:35] -kubuntu-ci:#kubuntu-devel- Project bionic_stable_babe build #19: FAILURE in 25 min: https://kci.pangea.pub/job/bionic_stable_babe/19/ [23:35] @acheronuk I'm willing to bet that the WiFi password twice bug is PIM [23:36] the PIM folks are going to set up a PIM testing VM on KDE infra soon [23:37] @valorie, fix it then [23:37] @tsimonq2, fix it then [23:37] so that devels from a few different sub-teams all have simultaneous access to the same running thing [23:37] @acheronuk, no :P [23:37] like the ui people, db people, etc [23:38] Sorry, but I only mess with PIM when it's symbols. [23:38] :P [23:38] tsimonq2: if you really think it's PIM, call it out on the bug reports on KDE bugz [23:38] so they can test that [23:38] I struggle to see how it's PIM, but then nothing would surprise me [23:38] @acheronuk, kwallet [23:39] urgh. horrible thing [23:39] I'm willing to put money on it being that :P [23:39] it is almost certainly KWallet [23:39] see? :P [23:40] (we think) [23:40] kill off both. please! [23:40] joking.... but only just [23:40] XD [23:41] probably won't be able to look at much of this tommorow, but after that and the weekend, maybe [23:42] almost certainly kwallet [23:42] but it Just Works for me, almost always [23:43] unfamilar wifi, it does the double thing [23:43] I got it in the Kubuntu live session, but not after installation [23:43] so annoying [23:43] current theory is that this only happens when the KWallet PAM module isn't set up properly or something [23:43] but as the BRs say, *some* wifi [23:43] not all [23:43] in other distros, I got it all the time [23:43] kwallet is one of the things I fisrt kill off on a personal install, along with baloo [23:44] FWIW I've recruited someone to patch up baloo [23:44] never had a problem with either of 'em [23:44] check out the commit log: https://cgit.kde.org/baloo.git/ [23:44] nggraham \o/ [23:44] because it is sometimes a problem for others [23:44] right [23:44] it works great for me, but I totally agree that it needs major work, since others hate it and have terrible experiences [23:45] vish is a genius but he caught so much flack.... it just killed his motivation eventually [23:45] dan is tough [23:45] I mean he works on PIM [23:46] Michael Heidelbach -- is that your recruit? [23:46] @nggraham, wow. some movement. someone on #plasma a while back wasn't sure it was even maintained now [23:46] yep [23:46] I've been mentoring him [23:46] awesome [23:46] it would be great to have that maintained again [23:47] because it gets better and better imo [23:47] it is technically maintainerless, but we are hoping to rehab it with community contributions and eventually attract a new formal maintainer [23:47] same with Gwenview, which is farther along in that process [23:47] \o/ [23:47] *cough* Amarok? *cough* *cough* [23:48] that one's probably long dead [23:48] to be honest, I actually use Lollypop on my machine [23:48] I hope not, but I fear it's true [23:48] it may be made for GNOME, but it is magnificent [23:48] and if I turn off the CSD, it looks fine [23:48] well, we're not going to ship gnome software [23:48] no matter how good [23:49] obviously, yeah [23:49] !info lollypop [23:49] I wasn't proposing that for you guys :) [23:49] Package lollypop does not exist in bionic [23:49] yet [23:49] the guy mark* something who was porting amarok bfore new year seems to have gone quiet again :( [23:49] yeah, I get it from the developer's PPA [23:49] it's also on Flathub [23:49] so if people want to use it.... [23:52] nggrahaham, this is just an idea, but are you interested in https://phabricator.kde.org/T7523 [23:52] ? [23:53] Rick who wrote that is having family issues right now (his mother very seriously ill) [23:53] but we're very interested in having someone in that role [23:53] and it seems you are already thinking along those lines [23:53] Is there money in it? 😉 I have a full-time job but am looking to become employed full-time to work on this stuff, if I can [23:53] we have no $ [23:53] this is all-volunteer [23:54] I mean, we'd love to have some paid development; that is part of what fueled Kubuntu for the first 10 years [23:54] I'll think about it. At the moment I am stretched pretty thin. If I was retired or something, I'd be all over it [23:54] but that has gone to neon instead [23:55] if you see anyone else as a likely candidate, pass that along [23:55] gotcha! [23:55] we want nobody burning out! [23:55] @nggraham what time zone are you? [23:55] I wouldn't know what to do with myself if I was paid to work on anything open source and already had a high school diploma :P [23:55] USA mountain time [23:56] heh [23:56] tsimonq2: I'm sure you would be plotting to take over the world [23:56] ooo, I'm pacific time here [23:56] ok. just so I know. coming up to midnight here in UK, so I will be off soon [23:56] south of Seattle [23:56] acheronuk: no burnout for you either! [23:58] that's why I'm going to make myself get off here in a minute! [23:58] I'm the sole breadwinner for a family of four right now, so the money angle becomes somewhat important :) [23:58] I'm the sole source of income for a family of four right now, so the money angle becomes somewhat important :) [23:59] valorie: How do you know I haven't taken the world over already? :P [23:59] I'm in New Mexico [23:59] tsimonq2: I see you [23:59] lol [23:59] acheronuk: sweet dreams! [23:59] Seriously though, if I ever get paid to do FLOSS stuff full time, you should be scared. Think about how much I already do just in my free time... lol [23:59] tsimonq2: there is still some uncorrected spelling in places