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lotuspsychjegood morning to all05:26
lordievaderGood morning07:06
lotuspsychjehey lordievader07:07
lordievaderHey lotuspsychje07:08
lordievaderHow are you doing?07:08
lotuspsychjegreat here lordievader and you?07:08
lordievaderDoing ok, spitting through puppet emails.07:08
lotuspsychjebionic updates & news read here07:10
lotuspsychjewas playing with supybot last night07:10
lordievaderSupybot? Why?07:11
lordievaderUbuntu channels have a rather strict bot poilicy don't they?07:12
jinkGoedemorgen, kinders.07:24
ducassegood morning, everyone07:31
lordievaderHey ducasse08:32
lordievaderHow are you doing?08:32
ducassemorning lordievader - all good here, thanks. how about you?08:34
lordievaderDoing good here 😁08:34
ducasseany plans for the day? :)08:37
lordievaderWork, work and work :P08:38
lordievaderYou?08:38
ducassehave a hospital appointment a bit later, other than that i'm just going to do some system maintenance etc here at home08:41
lordievaderAh, good luck 👍08:41
ducassethanks08:46
BluesKajHowdy folks11:43
pauljwhi everyone12:20
BluesKaj'Morning pauljw12:22
pauljwhi BluesKaj :)12:23
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lotuspsychjegood evening to all18:01
pauljwhi lotuspsychje :)18:04
lotuspsychjehey pauljw how are you today18:04
pauljwdoing fine, you?18:04
lotuspsychjegreat finished work and irc chill now :p18:04
pauljw:D18:04
daftykins\o18:06
lotuspsychjehey daftykins18:07
daftykinspesky old kit playing up :) got a single memory error on a setup i was trying to sell on for cheap, today18:08
lotuspsychjecool18:08
daftykinsnaw it's a bad thing! faulty module18:09
lotuspsychjedaftykins: im gonna get a w10 box with starting up probs18:09
daftykinsoh my18:09
daftykinsi wonder if it'll be like my friends wifes one, where the upgrade to the latest build failed spectacularly18:09
lotuspsychjenot sure what happened, customer said blue screen uefi stuff18:10
daftykins:) memtest and SMART disk check #1 then :>18:11
lotuspsychjedaftykins: they got pics all over, ill start with backup :p18:12
daftykinswell if you don't look at the SMART data first, copying off could endanger it all!18:12
daftykins:)18:12
lotuspsychjetrue18:12
daftykinsi really do love my local nextcloud setup now, LAN transfer speeds when home for keeping some data synced up, then still available when out and about across the island18:13
lotuspsychjedaftykins: what kind of stuff you having on it?18:13
daftykinspics i take and share on IRC, some client notes... that sort of thing18:14
daftykinsfiles i want to share18:14
lotuspsychjeaha movable files18:14
daftykinsstopped using dropbox and moved to this instead18:15
lotuspsychje!find nextcloud18:15
ubot5Found: W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W:, W: (and 272 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=nextcloud&searchon=names&suite=artful&section=all18:15
naccit's a snap18:15
nacciirc18:15
daftykinsyou don't get it from repos ideally18:15
naccdebian stopped package all that stuff18:15
daftykinsjust get a web server & db server on, then unzip from their site into the root and configure the database :)18:16
naccalso an option18:16
lotuspsychjenacc: yep :p nextcloud-client    2.3.3+gitab40efe snap18:16
naccalthough i imagine upgrades are tricky, daftykins ?18:16
daftykinsno, single click in the web control panel with a properly configured host18:16
daftykinszero need for a snap18:16
naccnextcloud             12.0.4snap2               nextcloud            -        Nextcloud Server - A safe home for all your data18:17
nacclotuspsychje: --^18:17
lotuspsychjecool18:17
daftykinsfor the server side anyway, didn't think of the client portion on Linux :)18:17
naccdaftykins: ah interesting18:17
lotuspsychjehey Bashing-om18:18
Bashing-omlotuspsychje: Hey hey :) ... I be back see what a Tuesday brings .18:19
daftykins:D18:19
daftykinsnacc: it's kinda like wordpress in that way, although a package existed it was always considered a mistake by anyone with experience of it :>18:20
daftykins(a mistake to use the package)18:20
naccfor sure18:20
* nacc had to update that package for 16.0418:20
daftykinsoh dear :D18:21
daftykinsprobably better to be removed18:21
lotuspsychjehey BluesKaj18:31
BluesKajhey lotuspsychje18:32
lotuspsychjeWayland is a display server protocol that can be used instead of X. From Ubuntu 17.10 and higher you can choose the wayland session at gdm login on systems that support it. For more info, see https://wayland.freedesktop.org/18:43
lotuspsychjehow you guys like this?18:43
nacc!wayland18:43
ubot5Wayland is a display server protocol that can be used instead of X. Ubuntu 17.10 uses Wayland by default on systems that support it. For more info, see https://wayland.freedesktop.org/18:43
nacclotuspsychje: seems reasoable18:44
lotuspsychjenacc: its a bit weird to say artful does defualt and bionic not right?18:44
nacclotuspsychje: Maybe add a sentence after your second one. "Ubuntu 17.10 uses Wayland by default on systems that support it."18:45
pauljwIt's going to be included with bionic, just not the default, correct?18:46
lotuspsychjemight get too long factoid, and if artful gets eol we wont need that anymore?18:46
lotuspsychjepauljw: yeah wayland will be installed, choosable18:46
pauljw:)18:47
naccpauljw: correct (recet change)18:47
nacclotuspsychje: yeah, you're right18:48
lotuspsychjenacc: ok lemme request it18:48
lotuspsychjehttp://www.itprotoday.com/network-security/linux-monitoring-tool-detects-meltdown-attacks18:54
BluesKajjust woke up from a nap,  :-) wayland is probly non default on Bionic due to the conservative nature of LTS OSs20:21
lotuspsychjeBluesKaj: yeah i suggested new trigger20:22
BluesKajlotuspsychje, right20:23
lotuspsychjeBluesKaj: Wayland is a display server protocol that can be used instead of X. From Ubuntu 17.10 and higher you can choose the wayland session at gdm login on systems that support it. For more info, see https://wayland.freedesktop.org/20:24
lotuspsychjebetter?20:24
BluesKajnicely done lotuspsychje, yes :-)20:25
lotuspsychjetnx20:25
BluesKajis gdm still default on ubuntu ?20:26
lotuspsychjeBluesKaj: from 17.10 ubuntu-desktop it is20:27
lotuspsychjeor should it be gdm320:28
BluesKajKubuntu defaults to sddm, so the other flavors use gdm too?20:28
lotuspsychjedidnt test other flavors 17.10 and higher myself20:28
lotuspsychjeBluesKaj: you can choose wayland on sddm?20:30
lotuspsychjebbl20:32
oerhekssorry nacc, i could not hold myself in23:06
naccoerheks: :)23:07
naccsometimes people are just ...23:07
oerheks"i heard .."23:08
naccand if you ask someone for details and they say "no"23:09
nacci mentaly put them in /ignore23:09
oerheksbut .. sometimes they are surprisingly neat and say thank you afterwards23:11
oerheks:-D23:11
oerhekswe never know who we are dealing with23:11
naccoerheks: yeah23:12

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