[05:26] <lotuspsychje> good morning to all
[07:06] <lordievader> Good morning
[07:07] <lotuspsychje> hey lordievader
[07:08] <lordievader> Hey lotuspsychje
[07:08] <lordievader> How are you doing?
[07:08] <lotuspsychje> great here lordievader and you?
[07:08] <lordievader> Doing ok, spitting through puppet emails.
[07:10] <lotuspsychje> bionic updates & news read here
[07:10] <lotuspsychje> was playing with supybot last night
[07:11] <lordievader> Supybot? Why?
[07:12] <lordievader> Ubuntu channels have a rather strict bot poilicy don't they?
[07:24] <jink> Goedemorgen, kinders.
[07:31] <ducasse> good morning, everyone
[08:32] <lordievader> Hey ducasse
[08:32] <lordievader> How are you doing?
[08:34] <ducasse> morning lordievader - all good here, thanks. how about you?
[08:34] <lordievader> Doing good here 😁
[08:37] <ducasse> any plans for the day? :)
[08:38] <lordievader> Work, work and work :P
[08:38] <lordievader> You?
[08:41] <ducasse> have a hospital appointment a bit later, other than that i'm just going to do some system maintenance etc here at home
[08:41] <lordievader> Ah, good luck 👍
[08:46] <ducasse> thanks
[11:43] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[12:20] <pauljw> hi everyone
[12:22] <BluesKaj> 'Morning pauljw
[12:23] <pauljw> hi BluesKaj :)
[18:01] <lotuspsychje> good evening to all
[18:04] <pauljw> hi lotuspsychje :)
[18:04] <lotuspsychje> hey pauljw how are you today
[18:04] <pauljw> doing fine, you?
[18:04] <lotuspsychje> great finished work and irc chill now :p
[18:04] <pauljw> :D
[18:06] <daftykins> \o
[18:07] <lotuspsychje> hey daftykins
[18:08] <daftykins> pesky old kit playing up :) got a single memory error on a setup i was trying to sell on for cheap, today
[18:08] <lotuspsychje> cool
[18:09] <daftykins> naw it's a bad thing! faulty module
[18:09] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: im gonna get a w10 box with starting up probs
[18:09] <daftykins> oh my
[18:09] <daftykins> i wonder if it'll be like my friends wifes one, where the upgrade to the latest build failed spectacularly
[18:10] <lotuspsychje> not sure what happened, customer said blue screen uefi stuff
[18:11] <daftykins> :) memtest and SMART disk check #1 then :>
[18:12] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: they got pics all over, ill start with backup :p
[18:12] <daftykins> well if you don't look at the SMART data first, copying off could endanger it all!
[18:12] <daftykins> :)
[18:12] <lotuspsychje> true
[18:13] <daftykins> i really do love my local nextcloud setup now, LAN transfer speeds when home for keeping some data synced up, then still available when out and about across the island
[18:13] <lotuspsychje> daftykins: what kind of stuff you having on it?
[18:14] <daftykins> pics i take and share on IRC, some client notes... that sort of thing
[18:14] <daftykins> files i want to share
[18:14] <lotuspsychje> aha movable files
[18:15] <daftykins> stopped using dropbox and moved to this instead
[18:15] <lotuspsychje> !find nextcloud
[18:15] <nacc> it's a snap
[18:15] <nacc> iirc
[18:15] <daftykins> you don't get it from repos ideally
[18:15] <nacc> debian stopped package all that stuff
[18:16] <daftykins> just get a web server & db server on, then unzip from their site into the root and configure the database :)
[18:16] <nacc> also an option
[18:16] <lotuspsychje> nacc: yep :p nextcloud-client    2.3.3+gitab40efe snap
[18:16] <nacc> although i imagine upgrades are tricky, daftykins ?
[18:16] <daftykins> no, single click in the web control panel with a properly configured host
[18:16] <daftykins> zero need for a snap
[18:17] <nacc> nextcloud             12.0.4snap2               nextcloud            -        Nextcloud Server - A safe home for all your data
[18:17] <nacc> lotuspsychje: --^
[18:17] <lotuspsychje> cool
[18:17] <daftykins> for the server side anyway, didn't think of the client portion on Linux :)
[18:17] <nacc> daftykins: ah interesting
[18:18] <lotuspsychje> hey Bashing-om
[18:19] <Bashing-om> lotuspsychje: Hey hey :) ... I be back see what a Tuesday brings .
[18:19] <daftykins> :D
[18:20] <daftykins> nacc: it's kinda like wordpress in that way, although a package existed it was always considered a mistake by anyone with experience of it :>
[18:20] <daftykins> (a mistake to use the package)
[18:20] <nacc> for sure
[18:20]  * nacc had to update that package for 16.04
[18:21] <daftykins> oh dear :D
[18:21] <daftykins> probably better to be removed
[18:31] <lotuspsychje> hey BluesKaj
[18:32] <BluesKaj> hey lotuspsychje
[18:43] <lotuspsychje> Wayland is a display server protocol that can be used instead of X. From Ubuntu 17.10 and higher you can choose the wayland session at gdm login on systems that support it. For more info, see https://wayland.freedesktop.org/
[18:43] <lotuspsychje> how you guys like this?
[18:43] <nacc> !wayland
[18:44] <nacc> lotuspsychje: seems reasoable
[18:44] <lotuspsychje> nacc: its a bit weird to say artful does defualt and bionic not right?
[18:45] <nacc> lotuspsychje: Maybe add a sentence after your second one. "Ubuntu 17.10 uses Wayland by default on systems that support it."
[18:46] <pauljw> It's going to be included with bionic, just not the default, correct?
[18:46] <lotuspsychje> might get too long factoid, and if artful gets eol we wont need that anymore?
[18:46] <lotuspsychje> pauljw: yeah wayland will be installed, choosable
[18:47] <pauljw> :)
[18:47] <nacc> pauljw: correct (recet change)
[18:48] <nacc> lotuspsychje: yeah, you're right
[18:48] <lotuspsychje> nacc: ok lemme request it
[18:54] <lotuspsychje> http://www.itprotoday.com/network-security/linux-monitoring-tool-detects-meltdown-attacks
[20:21] <BluesKaj> just woke up from a nap,  :-) wayland is probly non default on Bionic due to the conservative nature of LTS OSs
[20:22] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: yeah i suggested new trigger
[20:23] <BluesKaj> lotuspsychje, right
[20:24] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: Wayland is a display server protocol that can be used instead of X. From Ubuntu 17.10 and higher you can choose the wayland session at gdm login on systems that support it. For more info, see https://wayland.freedesktop.org/
[20:24] <lotuspsychje> better?
[20:25] <BluesKaj> nicely done lotuspsychje, yes :-)
[20:25] <lotuspsychje> tnx
[20:26] <BluesKaj> is gdm still default on ubuntu ?
[20:27] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: from 17.10 ubuntu-desktop it is
[20:28] <lotuspsychje> or should it be gdm3
[20:28] <BluesKaj> Kubuntu defaults to sddm, so the other flavors use gdm too?
[20:28] <lotuspsychje> didnt test other flavors 17.10 and higher myself
[20:30] <lotuspsychje> BluesKaj: you can choose wayland on sddm?
[20:32] <lotuspsychje> bbl
[23:06] <oerheks> sorry nacc, i could not hold myself in
[23:07] <nacc> oerheks: :)
[23:07] <nacc> sometimes people are just ...
[23:08] <oerheks> "i heard .."
[23:09] <nacc> and if you ask someone for details and they say "no"
[23:09] <nacc> i mentaly put them in /ignore
[23:11] <oerheks> but .. sometimes they are surprisingly neat and say thank you afterwards
[23:11] <oerheks> :-D
[23:11] <oerheks> we never know who we are dealing with
[23:12] <nacc> oerheks: yeah