[02:03] <brayan> Alguem on ?
[02:13] <brayan> hello
[03:36] <R13ose> Hi
[05:10] <EoflaOE> Yesterday I created a USB for Kubuntu 17.10.1 by using Rufus for Windows XP. When I booted it I saw the installation screen which says to try or to install. I clicked on Try, and it took me to the non-blinking hyphen for a minute, then the hyphen disappeared. I waited and still there is no KDE 5 desktop. I have read that if I could run KDE 4, then
[05:10] <EoflaOE> I could run KDE 5. I pressed Num lock but it looks like the system is frozen.
[05:21] <valorie> EoflaOE: please verify your ISO
[05:21] <valorie> !md5
[05:23] <EoflaOE> valorie, I accidentally deleted the ISO when I was about to do md5 so I have to redownload I again.
[05:25] <valorie> can't you undelete?
[05:25] <valorie> EoflaOE: ^^^
[05:27] <EoflaOE> I will try to undelete
[05:35] <EoflaOE> I will come back when I return from school
[08:45] <lordievader> Good morning
[11:23] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[12:12] <calico_> I cant disable horizontal scrolling with my touchpad as its greyed out, any workarounds?
[12:57] <calico_> Hi
[12:58] <calico_> can anyone help with my touchpad issue
[13:03] <lordievader> calico_: You want  to disable the horizontal scrolling?
[13:08] <calico_> yes, but it's greyed out, I cannot select the tickbox. The vertical scrolling tickbox is accessible tough
[13:09] <calico_> lordievader, I want to disable it because in certain places such as in VLC - when I scroll to control the volume - the slider only goes up.
[13:11] <jared> defiance
[13:11] <jared> hello
[13:12] <lordievader> calico_: Horizontal scrolling is actually supported? I'd assume it is greyed out because it is not supported. VLC might mistake the horizontal motion for a vertical one.
[13:14] <jared> need help with linux commands ubuntu beta
[13:15] <jared> first time in kubuntu IRC Chat
[13:16] <BluesKaj> which beta?m beta for 18.04 isn't released yet
[13:17] <jared> oh ok
[13:17] <jared> Thanks Blues
[13:18] <BluesKaj> run sudo apt update then sudoo apt full-upgrade to the stable official release m assume you're on 17.10 ?
[13:19] <BluesKaj> jared,^
[13:19] <lordievader> jared: What does `lsb_release -a` say?
[13:20] <lordievader> You might need `sudo` for that (`sudo lsb_release -a`)
[13:44] <jared> what is the main utility of this IRC
[13:44] <jared> lord?
[14:38] <EoflaOE> I cannot undelete, even after deep scan
[14:46] <lordievader> EoflaOE: What are you talking about?
[14:48] <EoflaOE> About this problem: Yesterday I created a USB for Kubuntu 17.10.1 by using Rufus for Windows XP. When I booted it I saw the installation screen which says to try or to install. I clicked on Try, and it took me to the non-blinking hyphen for a minute, then the hyphen disappeared. I waited and still there is no KDE 5 desktop. I have read that if I co
[14:48] <EoflaOE> uld run KDE 4, then I could run KDE 5. I pressed Num lock but it looks like the system is frozen.
[14:49] <EoflaOE> I was about to do MD5 checksum but I accidentally deleted the ISO.
[14:51] <BluesKaj> EoflaOE, what are you computer specs , a windows XP pc will have avery difficult time running Kubuntu on such an old pc
[14:54] <BluesKaj> lordievader, he's also posting in #ubuntu
[14:54] <EoflaOE> BluesKaj: I have run KDE4 and Kubuntu 14.04 before for performance testing, I am very sure it can run every single Linux distros with minor problems, and my specs: AMD Athlon XP 1500+, 2 GB RAM, Radeon 9200 series, KT4AV MS-6712, built-in sound
[14:54] <lordievader> EoflaOE: Normally you need specialized forensic tools to undelete a file. Usually a whole lot easier to redownload the iso. But, like BluesKaj says, first check if you PC meets the minimum specifications.
[14:55] <EoflaOE> lordievader: OK. I am currently running on Windows XP. Does specialized Forensic tools require Linux to be installed? I am running on live
[14:57] <lordievader> There are probably forensic tools for Windows. But that is not the point. The point is that such methods are very difficult and (usually) very expensive. Like I said, much easier to redownload.
[14:58] <lordievader> Does that cpu support PAE?
[14:58] <BluesKaj> EoflaOE, how larhe is your HDD , do you plan to dual boot ? etc
[14:58] <BluesKaj> large
[14:58] <lordievader> If not, the 16.04 kernel won't run on there.
[14:59] <BluesKaj> 32 bit with more RAM might work
[14:59] <BluesKaj> PAE that is
[15:00] <EoflaOE> I have 2 hard drives, each of them is 40 GB. I plan to dual-boot so I can use Windows for games and Kubuntu for work. My CPU supports PAE
[15:02] <BluesKaj> are you trying the 32bit Kubuntu 17.10? iso
[15:04] <EoflaOE> Yes, I am sure this CPU does not support 64-bit so I chose 32-bit Kubuntu 17.10.1
[15:04] <BluesKaj> yes, it's a 23 bit architecture cpu
[15:05] <BluesKaj> 32 even ;-)
[15:06] <EoflaOE> I will try redownloading and when it finished, I will report back
[15:06] <BluesKaj> there lighter Desktops that might run beter than kde/plasma like xfce for exmple
[15:06] <EoflaOE> I know. I ran Lubuntu and Xubuntu before
[15:07] <BluesKaj> ok
[15:09] <EoflaOE> Thanks anyways for helping
[15:45] <IrcsomeBot1> IMR3D was added by: IMR3D
 I have two partitions (Root in SDA1) (Home in SDA2) and I want to join them. How can I do it from a LivePedrive?, I mean command line and which destination folder HOME, for example using rsync. Thanks.
[15:50] <BluesKaj> IMR3D what do tou think the advantage will be by joining them?
[15:51] <BluesKaj> tou=you
[15:54] <BluesKaj> there's no advantage that i can see, if your / partition is filling up run sudo apt autoremove and sudo apt autoclean to make room by getting rid of old unusable files
[16:16] <viewer|68740> hi
[16:16] <viewer|68740> anyone here?
[16:17] <BluesKaj> viewer|68740, just ask your question
[16:17] <viewer|68740> i was just wondering if kubuntu has good support
[16:18] <BluesKaj> I sure hope so ...what kind of support are you l;ooking for ?
[16:19] <viewer|68740> i'm about to install kubuntu
[16:19] <BluesKaj> ok, glad to hear that :-)
[16:19] <viewer|68740> and I know there is no company like Cannonical for support if I have problems.
 All this time to not answer anything useful, they are useless; it is clearly understood because people prefer Windows, you make them to leave Linux. Regrettable. I already found the solution with another assistance.
[16:41]  * BluesKaj shrugs ... google most likely :-)
[16:41] <IrcsomeBot1> IMR3D was removed by: IMR3D
[16:42] <BluesKaj> good
[17:13] <EoflaOE> If redownloading does not work, Could installing Xubuntu and then install kubuntu-desktop package manually help?
[17:16] <BluesKaj> EoflaOE, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/17.10/release/
[17:16] <EoflaOE> I am already redownloading right now.
[17:16] <EoflaOE> I know the site.
[17:23] <TBotNik> All: Running Kubuntu 14.04 LTS on my laptop and can not get the Recently Used/Installed items to show in the launcher menu. Also this does not show .html and .txt files and since 90+% of my work is with those it must, so how do I first get the "Recent" on/showing and then mod to include my file extensions?
[17:30] <BluesKaj> TBotNik, you could install the quicklaunch widget in the panel then install the "items" there by right clicking in quicklaunch and using the "add launcher" option
[17:32] <TBotNik> BluesKaj: The Recently Installed and Recently Used are a default and I have to edit some file to do this, but can no longer find the HOWTO on this!
[17:33] <BluesKaj> TBotNik,right click on the kmenu icon , there are options there as well
[17:50] <TBotNik> BluesKaj: OK, found that an now are displaying, but how do I change the settings to include those file extensions I use constantly?
[17:51] <TBotNik> BluesKaj: There is also a way to change the count from the default 10 to 20 items.
[17:58] <HansC> anyone here?
[17:58] <BluesKaj> HansC, look at the nicklist :-)
[17:59] <HansC> ah I see ;-)
[18:00] <BluesKaj> HansC, if you have a question, just ask it
[18:02] <HansC> I was looking around the forum, since a couple of days I'm experiencing a weird issue with Firefox in Kubuntu
[18:05] <HansC> When I right click on the shorcut toolbar or click on a button in firefox it responds after approx 5 seconds. This happens only in Firefox and Thunderbird
[19:15] <filippo> film
[21:00] <Kububu> Any ideas what Kubuntu 18.04 is going to use for an instant messenger?
[21:52] <Fire-Dragon-DoL> hello, anyone has any idea where to start debugging a login-loop in Kubuntu 17.10? I can login with a different user, but not with my main one
[21:52] <Fire-Dragon-DoL> (I login, see a black screen for a second and get back to login screen)
[22:01] <memphisto> try going through .xsession-errors in your home folder
[22:03] <Fire-Dragon-DoL> thanks memphisto, checking
[22:06] <Fire-Dragon-DoL> mhhh memphisto I get 2 warnings (really the same one repeated twice) "error sending to systemd: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.Spawn.ChildExited: Process org.freedesktop.systemd1 exited with status 1", then it's repeated again later after settings, then "unable to find device 1"
[22:06] <Fire-Dragon-DoL> I can clearly see in my setting "DISPLAY=:0"
[22:08] <memphisto> look for startkde: and go from there
[22:11] <Fire-Dragon-DoL> memphisto: in xsession-errors? `/startkde` can't be found :S
[22:11] <Fire-Dragon-DoL> would love to have timestamps, sigh
[22:15] <memphisto> with the working user open .xsession-errors from non working user with command tailf /home/<nonworkinguser>/.xsession-erros
[22:15] <memphisto> then start a new kde session with your user
[22:15] <memphisto> when it fails come back and check the logs on the terminal
[22:22] <Fire-Dragon-DoL> memphisto: that's roughly how I did it: jumped in ctrl+alt+f1, logged in with non-working-user, less +F .xsession-errors, ctrl+alt+f7 and logged in. However I noticed I missed a line previously. The last two are "unable to find device '1'" and "QXcbConnection: Could not connect to display :0"
[22:22] <Fire-Dragon-DoL> wonder if my bash_profile is causing troubles
[22:24] <memphisto> im guessing you have something in you startup , some app , qt app, that is causing this
[22:26] <memphisto> found something on the net
[22:26] <memphisto> this might be it. ... https://askubuntu.com/questions/723244/cannot-log-in-after-upgrade-xcb-plugin-missing
[22:27] <Fire-Dragon-DoL> yes I'm guessing the same
[22:28] <Fire-Dragon-DoL> I did an update 2 days ago
[22:28] <Fire-Dragon-DoL> but I rebooted like 100 times
[22:28] <Fire-Dragon-DoL> to make sure it was working
[22:28] <Fire-Dragon-DoL> HOWEVER (and I might be wrong)
[22:28] <Fire-Dragon-DoL> I think I added synergy to autostart yesterday
[22:28] <Fire-Dragon-DoL> so it might be that
[22:29] <memphisto> cd .kde/share/autostart/
[22:30] <memphisto> move anything from there to temp folder and try loging again, let the tailf cmd run so you can check again for errors
[22:31] <Fire-Dragon-DoL> thanks good point
[22:31] <Fire-Dragon-DoL> I was looking in /var/log/syslog but .xsession-errors is more useful
[22:41] <Fire-Dragon-DoL> oh they moved the stuff
[22:41] <Fire-Dragon-DoL> in .config/autostart
[22:42] <memphisto> ok
[22:44] <Fire-Dragon-DoL> sigh, not that either
[22:45] <Fire-Dragon-DoL> let me try a few things
[22:45] <memphisto> sure
[22:45] <memphisto> have you added some widget recently
[22:45] <memphisto> ?
[22:49] <Fire-Dragon-DoL> nope, but since I updated like 2 days ago from 17.04 to .10, it's a giant can of worms on its own...
[22:49] <memphisto> problem is that its working on another user and not in your default one
[22:50] <memphisto> which leads me to belive its someting in you autostart or startup configuration
[22:50] <memphisto> so compare $HOME/.config/startupconfig for both users
[22:50] <memphisto> you alrady remove everything from autostart
[22:51] <memphisto> so that's only thing i'm thinking of right now
[22:55] <Fire-Dragon-DoL> yeah I definitely agree with you
[22:55] <Fire-Dragon-DoL> it can't be nvidia driver or such
[22:55] <Fire-Dragon-DoL> it's something specific in my home directory
[22:57] <memphisto> try moving all plasma config to temp folder; mv $HOME/.share/plasma-* /temp
[22:57] <memphisto> and then try to log in
[22:58] <Fire-Dragon-DoL> yep about to do that
[22:58] <Fire-Dragon-DoL> startup config differs, I have a different theme
[22:58] <Fire-Dragon-DoL> wonder if it's that
[22:58] <Fire-Dragon-DoL> they joy of `diff` xD
[22:58] <Fire-Dragon-DoL> "I am too lazy to compare, letting the computer do it for me" lol
[22:59] <Fire-Dragon-DoL> so many years on linux, I'm still a noob
[22:59] <Fire-Dragon-DoL> lol
[22:59] <memphisto> me too
[23:03] <Fire-Dragon-DoL> OK
[23:03] <Fire-Dragon-DoL> we are getting somewhere
[23:03] <Fire-Dragon-DoL> moving .kde and .config
[23:03] <Fire-Dragon-DoL> did the trick
[23:04] <Fire-Dragon-DoL> time to narrow down which of the two
[23:04] <Fire-Dragon-DoL> lol
[23:04] <memphisto> :)
[23:04] <memphisto> have fun
[23:04] <Fire-Dragon-DoL> LOL
[23:04] <memphisto> bring back the .confg
[23:04] <memphisto> but not the .kde
[23:04] <memphisto> and try
[23:04] <Fire-Dragon-DoL> yes that contains a lot of helpful stuff
[23:05] <Fire-Dragon-DoL> I think I already tried moving .kde earlier, but let's retry
[23:06] <Fire-Dragon-DoL> nope, crashed
[23:06] <Fire-Dragon-DoL> let's try the opposit for safety
[23:06] <memphisto> what did you restore ? .config
[23:06] <Fire-Dragon-DoL> yeah .config only
[23:07] <memphisto> ok. so mv that again and restore .kde
[23:07] <Fire-Dragon-DoL> good stuff I backed up everything yesterday
[23:07] <memphisto> it will be re-crreated
[23:07] <Fire-Dragon-DoL> whoever said "you need only one computer" missed something :P
[23:07] <memphisto> just move it to temp folder
[23:08] <Fire-Dragon-DoL> yep yep
[23:08] <Fire-Dragon-DoL> ok with .kde and no .config I get in
[23:08] <memphisto> so now the fun part
[23:08] <Fire-Dragon-DoL> lol
[23:09] <memphisto> check the difference between non-working and working user in .config
[23:09] <Fire-Dragon-DoL> ah ah ah
[23:09] <Fire-Dragon-DoL> I have so much stuff in .config
[23:09] <Fire-Dragon-DoL> lol
[23:09] <memphisto> well it shoud be something with plasma in the name and rc at the end
[23:10] <memphisto> so check those files first
[23:10] <Fire-Dragon-DoL> mh thanks
[23:10] <memphisto> restore one by one
[23:10] <memphisto> off to bed
[23:10] <memphisto> night
[23:11] <Fire-Dragon-DoL> diff .config .config.bak yields a nightmare obviouslyu
[23:11] <Fire-Dragon-DoL> good night ;)
[23:59] <Fire-Dragon-DoL> AH! Something moved,