| lotuspsychje | good morning to all | 05:35 |
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| lotuspsychje | big bionic update | 05:36 |
| === lotuspsychje_ is now known as lotuspsychje | ||
| * lotuspsychje doesnt like ping timeout | 05:54 | |
| lotuspsychje | !wayland | 05:54 |
| ubot5 | Wayland is a display server protocol that can be used instead of X. Ubuntu 17.10 uses Wayland by default on systems that support it. For more info, see https://wayland.freedesktop.org/ | 05:54 |
| lotuspsychje | bah.. | 05:55 |
| ducasse | good morning, all | 07:19 |
| lotuspsychje | hey ducasse | 07:36 |
| ducasse | morning lotuspsychje | 07:40 |
| ducasse | all well? | 07:40 |
| lotuspsychje | yeah and you mate | 07:46 |
| lotuspsychje | !info linux-image-generic artful | 07:46 |
| ubot5 | linux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 4.13.0.32.34 (artful), package size 2 kB, installed size 14 kB | 07:46 |
| ducasse | i'm fine, thanks - quiet morning here. | 07:50 |
| lotuspsychje | cool | 07:50 |
| lotuspsychje | im about to breakfast and work | 07:50 |
| lotuspsychje | in 2 weeks, 1 week holiday :p | 07:51 |
| lordievader | Good morning | 08:45 |
| ducasse | hi lordievader - good morning to you, all well? :) | 08:58 |
| lordievader | Hey ducasse | 09:02 |
| lordievader | Doing allright. You? | 09:02 |
| ducasse | fine here, thanks. not doing much yet, about to upgrade my mikrotik gear to the latest routeros. | 09:05 |
| lordievader | Have fun with that 😉 | 09:06 |
| ducasse | hehe, it's usually a painless thing :) | 09:07 |
| lordievader | Usually 😋 | 09:12 |
| BluesKaj | Hi folks | 11:23 |
| LtWorf | hi | 11:32 |
| BluesKaj | hi LtWorf | 11:34 |
| jimb_ | Good day y'all. | 12:03 |
| BluesKaj | hey jimb_ | 12:04 |
| lordievader | Hey BluesKaj | 12:59 |
| lordievader | How are you? | 12:59 |
| BluesKaj | Hi lordievader. fine here, and you? | 13:06 |
| lordievader | Doing good here :) | 13:06 |
| BluesKaj | right :-) | 13:07 |
| nacc_ | ugh, DO droplet, with only xenial-security enabled and then all 3rd party stuff | 19:08 |
| daftykins | ;_; | 19:09 |
| daftykins | DO's lovely though :D | 19:09 |
| === nacc_ is now known as nacc | ||
| * TJ- has steam coming out of his ears | 23:24 | |
| nacc | something is fubar | 23:26 |
| nacc | dunno what :) | 23:26 |
| TJ- | I do!! | 23:26 |
| * nacc is busy doing the PHP7.2 migration | 23:26 | |
| TJ- | But I'm too polite to day | 23:27 |
| nacc | heh | 23:27 |
| TJ- | I'm not sure who's got the better task here :D | 23:27 |
| nacc | TJ-: you. a thousand times you :) | 23:29 |
| nacc | manual bootstrapping of phpunit is a PITA | 23:29 |
| daftykins | o0 | 23:34 |
| nacc | daftykins: looped dependencies :) | 23:35 |
| nacc | phpunit is used to test all of its own dependencies, which phpunit in turn depends on | 23:35 |
| daftykins | i upgraded my ZFS test box to 18.04 for fun, that got stuck with plymouth text depending on lsb-release being configured, which depended on plymouth text being configured - that was fun | 23:36 |
| nacc | daftykins: was that the ping loop? | 23:37 |
| nacc | *a ping loop, i mean | 23:37 |
| daftykins | not sure how you mean 'ping' in the context of packages | 23:37 |
| TJ- | daftykins: the plymouth --ping bug | 23:38 |
| daftykins | it wasn't an important machine - and i only upgraded for fun, so i just nuked it :) | 23:38 |
| daftykins | i have no idea what that is | 23:38 |
| daftykins | TJ-: oh you'd love this, it seems subiquity fails to even nuke a disk that isn't already blank, to install to | 23:39 |
| TJ- | plymouth gets stuck in a loop ping-ing itself | 23:39 |
| daftykins | it was only trying to configure it at upgrade time, so i have no evidence to that | 23:39 |
| TJ- | daftykins: Yes, I saw that bug too when I was going through the list | 23:40 |
| daftykins | ah i didn't see anything along those lines earlier with a quick glance | 23:40 |
| daftykins | essentially every feature of that installer doesn't work | 23:40 |
| daftykins | oh and what's with this netplan rubbish? | 23:40 |
| TJ- | daftykins: that's why i's called _sub_iquity :) | 23:41 |
| TJ- | netplan isn't rubbish! | 23:41 |
| daftykins | well it sure looks it when you have to write silly format config files | 23:41 |
| TJ- | The point is that they can be written in a single syntax and deployed to systemd-networkd, network-manager, ifupdown or anything else at boot-time without the admin needing to learn different net configs | 23:45 |
| daftykins | yeah instead they just have to learn a ridiculous format judging by what i've seen :/ | 23:45 |
| daftykins | also what's cloud-init about? sounded like it was going off online to do something | 23:46 |
| nacc | daftykins: http://cloudinit.readthedocs.io/en/latest/index.html | 23:46 |
| TJ- | It's YAML format | 23:46 |
| daftykins | it has a quirky mix of new lines and square braces for comma separated lists and ugh | 23:47 |
| daftykins | doubt i'll learn to write out of those out from memory versus the lovely simple /etc/network/interfaces :) | 23:48 |
| nacc | daftykins: that's YAMLL | 23:48 |
| nacc | you can either use a [] list or a newlined, - started list | 23:48 |
| daftykins | :| | 23:49 |
| nacc | and if you have to do anything even reasonaby compilcated (thinnk cloud) with eni, you'd know why it's terrible :) | 23:49 |
| TJ- | ifupdown is about 20 years old! | 23:49 |
| nacc | yeah | 23:50 |
| daftykins | well age isn't a very good argument | 23:50 |
| nacc | in that it has't changed in 20 years while the entire industry has | 23:50 |
| nacc | it is *an* argument, at lelast | 23:50 |
| daftykins | can't see why this cloud-init junk needs to be on by default but ho-hum | 23:52 |
| TJ- | Because the massive majority of ubuntu-server deploys are now virtual machines or containers | 23:54 |
| daftykins | extra junk to purge then | 23:57 |
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