[00:23] <prodigel> e
[00:54] <Li> google: "ubuntu how to find out the commands of an installed package"
[00:54] <Li> all none related results showed up
[00:56] <nacc> Li: what do you want to know?
[00:56] <nacc> Li: not all packages ship executables, for one thinng
[00:56] <JoeLlama> does xubuntu use less resources than ubuntu?  I heard it runs better on older machines.
[00:56] <JoeLlama> I know lubuntu dfoes
[00:56] <JoeLlama> -f
[00:56] <nacc> JoeLlama: i would say it's a less graphically intense desktop environment yeah
[00:57] <JoeLlama> ok cool thanks nacc that is what I thought also
[00:57] <Li> nacc: that is exactly what I wanted. 1) If the installed package includes any executables. 2) how to go about finding the names of them.
[00:57] <JoeLlama> and why are linux users nicer people that unix users?  Just curious
[00:57] <nacc> Li: dpkg -L <pkgname> | grep bin ?
[00:57] <JoeLlama> I have been on some unix channels where people just sucked :(
[00:57] <nacc> JoeLlama: not really ontopic :)
[00:58] <JoeLlama> ok thanks nacc
[00:59] <JoeLlama> I installed ubuntu 16.04 on a dell inspiron 910 (intel atom n270) and it was kinda slow but worked pretty well... internet and all... then I installed lubuntu 16.04 on that same system and the internet stopped working.
[00:59] <JoeLlama> gunna try xubuntu next
[00:59] <nacc> JoeLlama: the underlying systems are the same (incl. the kernel) so it seems like something esle is going on
[01:00] <Li> thanks nacc .. that well do
[01:00] <nacc> the flavors are just different default desktop experiences
[01:00] <JoeLlama> hrm ok nacc yeah...
[01:00] <JoeLlama> something is up
[01:00] <Li> however there should be something more obviouse during the installation process
[01:00] <nacc> Li: what do you mean?
[01:01] <nacc> Li: why are you installing packages if you don't know what they are for?
[01:01] <JoeLlama> it's amazing how video performance was still slightly glitchy under windows and required a broadcom crystalHD hardware video decoder to play videos and still had a slight glitch to it but under ubuntu I didn't need a hardware decoder and videos played sweet :)
[01:03] <nacc> Li: i guess, in my mind, you either are using a GUI to isntall packages, which probably means you are using a GUI to launch applications (at which opint you shouldn't even ncare what the executables are called)
[01:04] <nacc> Li: or you are using the terminal and you know what you are installing and why
[01:04] <nacc> Li: i'm trying to think of a generic use-case where what you are suggesting is a key need
[01:06] <JoeLlama> so under xubuntu it's basically the same thing as ubuntu with a lower overhead graphical interface?  How does that compare to lubuntu?
[01:08] <Bashing-om> JoeLlama: Lubuntu is a faster, more lightweight and energy saving variant of Ubuntu using LXDE, the Lightweight X11 Desktop Environment. It is targeted at "normal" PC and laptop users running on low-spec hardware.
[01:08] <frad> i need something to cut video streams, no edit, jsut cut a section and save it
[01:08] <frad> tips appreciated
[01:12] <Joche> hi
[01:12] <Joche> good evening
[01:12] <JoeLlama> oh ok thanks Bashing-om makes sense
[01:13] <JoeLlama> I will try xubuntu next on an Intel N270 (1.6GHz 1 Core) with 2G RAM
[01:14] <JoeLlama> it's a 32 bitter
[01:15] <JoeLlama> the full ubuntu on that system (16.04) worked well and video was sweet but the GUI was a bit slow
[01:18] <flyback> anyone still reporting uefi issues in 17.10.1
[01:19] <nukke> when attempting to boot Ubuntu on an Apple Xserve 2008, I get the following error: https://imgur.com/a/qlZTV
[01:19] <nukke> any ideas about what the error indicates?
[01:59] <masterasia> my boot process is broken
[01:59] <masterasia> how should I fix it?
[01:59] <masterasia> It happens after I updated kernel headers and updated virtualbox guest additions
[02:00] <masterasia> I get an error 'failed to start Load Kernel Modules'
[02:00] <Guy1524> Hey guys, I need help with VNC.  I want to set up something like tightvncserver, that is a seperate desktop only exposed through VNC, not the actual display.
[02:00] <Guy1524> However, with tightVNC there is no openGL / Vulkan support
[02:01] <Guy1524> so my question is, how can I configure a GL / Vulkan compatible VNC server w/ any VNC server, be it x11vnc or tightvncserver
[02:11] <flyback> well the good news is
[02:11] <flyback> the amd e-450 itx box always locks up at the exact same spot
[02:11] <flyback> installing grub
[02:11] <flyback> which means it's a hw/and or linux bug
[02:11] <flyback> resolvable :)
[02:11] <flyback> not dying hw
[02:11]  * flyback bites randomCANUCK
[02:12] <flyback> randomstrangerb,
[02:12] <cfhowlett> masterasia, reboot.  hit the esc key immediately after the screensplash to trigger grub boot options.  choose an older kernel to boot.  that will get you into the system
[02:12] <masterasia> cfhowlett, hasn't worked so far
[02:12] <masterasia> could it be my guest additions?
[02:12] <cfhowlett> possibly.  what exactly happens now?
[02:13] <flyback> looks like possibly the uefi bug isn't fully resolved in 17.10.1
[02:14] <EriC^^> flyback: run the installer with the 'ubiquity -b' so it doesnt try installing grub, then manually install from a chroot or something
[02:16] <flyback> going to try installing on non uefi mode first
[02:16] <EriC^^> how's grub failing
[02:16] <flyback> the installer locks hard
[02:16] <flyback> lubuntu but same codebase except for a few minor changes
[02:18] <cfhowlett> masterasia, try this:  purge the guest additions and test
[02:25] <flyback> wtf don't you guys believe in swap anymore?
[02:27] <cfhowlett> language!
[02:28] <flyback> ¿Ya no crees en el espacio de intercambio?
[02:29] <flyback> ???????????
[02:29] <cfhowlett> !es| flyback english on in this channel please
[02:29] <flyback> cfhowlett, that was a joke
[02:29] <flyback> haven't you ever see the movie "airplane"
[02:29] <cfhowlett> perhaps jokes belong in the #ubuntu-offtopic channel rather than the support channel
[02:30] <flyback> wow just sad
[02:31] <NullTheSecond> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/oluQQ45c/leak.png
[02:32] <cfhowlett> NullTheSecond, this is ubuntu support.  check your channel
[02:34]  * flyback hands cfhowlett some tums
[02:37] <flyback> yep
[02:37] <flyback> installing in non uefi mode worked fine
[03:21] <Neo4> what does it mean >/dev/null ? it's redirect to this file some output?
[03:25] <Neo4> it is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Null_device
[03:26] <Neo4> it means I can't see there nothing, this file always empty
[03:27] <red_crosse> anyone got any info on gestures using touchpads on linux? What packages are best to enable 3/4 finger gestures?
[03:28] <fluvvell> how easy is it to move from unity to gnome desktop ?
[03:29] <Neo4> please send complains to /dev/null
[03:29] <fluvvell> Neo4, null is where you send stuff to disappear   echo "Dumb Idea" >/dev/nul
[03:29] <fluvvell> *null
[03:30] <Neo4> fluvvell: understood
[03:30] <Neo4> I break down this row of code (* * * * * wget -q -O - ' . site_url() . ' >/dev/null 2>&1)
[03:32] <Neo4> do this for test (wget http://test/crone.php >/dev/null) and I files in folder
[03:32] <Neo4> I get*
[03:32] <Neo4> -q,  --quiet                     quiet (no output)
[03:32] <Neo4> -O,  --output-document=FILE      write documents to FILE
[03:33] <Neo4> what does mean quiet?
[03:33] <lordcirth_> Neo4, that wget won't print anything while doing it
[03:35] <Neo4> I might have guessed, -q forbid output error in console and -O allow write in file
[03:35] <Neo4> this command:
[03:35] <Neo4> (wget -O http://test/crone.php >/dev/null ) output nothing, it seems doesn't have sense?
[03:35] <Neo4> oh no it  output in console something
[03:35] <Neo4> with -q it nothing output
[03:36] <R13ose> Hi
[03:38] <Neo4> I did it (wget -O http://test/crone.php >data) and got file 'data' and output in console
[03:38] <Neo4> I did it (wget -q -O - http://test/crone.php >data1) and got data1 and output is nothing
[03:38] <Neo4> -q - forbid show message on screen -O save in file
[03:39] <Neo4> if we do wget http://google.com >some_file we get nothing
[03:39] <R13ose> How do I get the IP address of a brother printer if the config settings is saying initializing?
[03:39] <Neo4> no it works...
[03:40] <Neo4> we get two files index.html and some_file
[03:40] <Neo4> with -O only file
[03:40] <Flannel> Neo4: What is your question?
[03:41] <Neo4> Flannel: what means this code (wget -q -O - http://test/crone.php >/dev/null 2>&1)
[03:41] <Neo4> 2>&1
[03:41] <Neo4> this last unknown
[03:42] <Flannel> Neo4: -
[03:43] <Flannel> Neo4: -O will output to a filename, the - is where the filename would go.  That outputs instead to the standard output (the terminal).
[03:43] <maveric3pr> R13ose try this... #lpinfo -v | grep -P '://'
[03:44] <Neo4> Flannel: standard output is file?
[03:44] <Flannel> Neo4: the two things at the end first redirects the output (which would be the contents of the webpage) to /dev/null (nowhere).  The second part then redirects standard error to the standard output.  So, you'll get any errors displayed, but other than that, nothing "shows" anywhere.
[03:44] <Flannel> Neo4: no, standard output is "the terminal" if you're running a terminal.  In a cronjob, outputs get mailed to you.
[03:44] <Flannel> Neo4: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO-3.html  That page covers all sorts of variations on at stuff.  So you can learn more.
[03:44] <Neo4> Flannel: what is useful do that code?
[03:45] <Neo4> it seems nothing load from internet, what he is load it put to /dev/null
[03:45] <Neo4> this is code from php file
[03:45] <Neo4> $command_string = '* * * * * wget -q -O - ' . site_url() . ' >/dev/null 2>&1' . PHP_EOL;
[03:45] <Flannel> Neo4: So, any /errors/ will be displayed (like, if the domain didn't resolve).  It also would do stuff serverside.
[03:46] <Flannel> Neo4: So... it could be to check to make sure your internet works.  Or that site_url is valid.  Or to tell site_url that your computer exists.
[03:46] <Neo4> Flannel: ok, we do redirect stdout to file than redirect stderror to stdout and both of them go to /dev/null, and that code doesn't have sense
[03:46] <Flannel> Neo4: Those are the possible side-effects.  At least, the big ones.  Not talking about second order effects.
[03:47] <lordcirth_> Neo4, https://explainshell.com/
[03:47] <Flannel> Neo4: No, it redirects stdout to /dev/null, then stderr to stdout.  The stderr would show up in the terminal.  It doesn't get re-redirected to /dev/null.
[03:48] <Flannel> So, you take the source that would've gone to stdout, throw that away.  You take the source that would've gone to stderr, put it instead at stdout.
[03:48] <Neo4> Flannel: no, there -q it means "don't show in terminal anything"
[03:49] <Flannel> Neo4: No, -q means "don't show the usual wget stuff", like where it talks about resolving the host, and downloading the file, and the filesize and stuff.
[03:49] <Neo4> I see there exists a few stream std out std err...
[03:50] <Neo4> Flannel: understood, if it get error it show on screen
[03:51] <Neo4> that php code is complicated...
[03:54] <Neo4> lordcirth_: nice site https://goo.gl/N3zf6T
[03:58] <dedondesta> how do i install gcc 4.8 on 17.10 ?
[03:58] <dedondesta> how do i install gcc 4.8 on ubuntu 17.10 ?
[04:02] <Kon-> !ot
[04:04] <chapo> dedondeesta did you look for the package?
[05:12] <EoflaOE> Yesterday I created a USB for Kubuntu 17.10.1 by using Rufus for Windows XP. When I booted it I saw the installation screen which says to try or to install. I clicked on Try, and it took me to the non-blinking hyphen for a minute, then the hyphen disappeared. I waited and still there is no KDE 5 desktop. I have read that if I could run KDE 4, then
[05:12] <EoflaOE> I could run KDE 5. I pressed Num lock but it looks like the system is frozen.
[05:18] <EoflaOE> Hi EriC^^
[05:20] <EoflaOE> And when I tried with nomodeset, I got Input not supported so I cannot do anything
[05:21] <Sveta> EoflaOE: how did you run kde4 before?
[05:22] <Neo4> I've put it in crontab
[05:22] <Neo4> 1 * * * * wget http://test/crone.php >/dev/null
[05:22] <Neo4> When is must be done?
[05:22] <EriC^^> hi EoflaOE
[05:22] <EoflaOE> Sveta, I think KDE4 is more slimmer than KDE 5 for my computer
[05:22] <Neo4> minimum step for crontab 5 minutes?
[05:22] <EriC^^> in 40mins Neo4
[05:23] <EriC^^> Neo4: 1min
[05:23] <Neo4> EriC^^: yes 1 min
[05:23] <EriC^^> * * * * * ....
[05:23] <Neo4> I don't see any changes
[05:24] <Neo4> crone.php write in file time and I see nothing
[05:24] <azizLIGHT> can latest ubuntu or lts respond to media next or media previous keys (next track/ previous track) on lock screen?
[05:27] <Neo4> EriC^^: see http://pix.toile-libre.org/?img=1517376359.png
[05:27] <Neo4> I might have  had got to do restart crone?
[05:28] <Neo4> that command works in command like if do it manually
[05:29] <viju> I want to use Internation Phonetic Alphabets chars? How do I use it?
[05:29] <EriC^^> Neo4: 1 * * * * runs in 30mins from now, the start of every hour
[05:29] <viju> I don't find IPA chars in the input methods.
[05:29] <Neo4> EriC^^: why not every minute?
[05:30] <Neo4> EriC^^: it's each task will start in 30 minutes?
[05:30] <Neo4> 1 * * * * what does it might have got to mean?
[05:31] <Neo4> it would have been mean every minutes load url
[05:32] <EriC^^> no it would mean every hour at xx:01
[05:32] <EriC^^> * * * * * is every min
[05:35] <Neo4> EriC^^: how will be every file minutes?
[05:35] <Neo4> for example
[05:35] <Neo4> :)
[05:36] <Neo4> EriC^^: I guessed it must be have to create 5 task with
[05:38] <Neo4> 5 * * * * 10 * * * * 15 * * * * 20 * * * * 25 * * * *  .... 11
[05:38] <Neo4> 11 task
[05:38] <Neo4> ok understood
[05:43] <Neo4> no one task */5 * * * *
[05:43] <Neo4> https://crontab.guru/every-5-minutes
[05:54] <jansch> Hi. Is there an easy, universal way how to find the source code corresponding to a binary?
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> jansch: i think apt can download the source of a package
[06:02] <jansch> lotuspsychje: thanks - for the record: dpkg -S /binary/filename gives the package name, then enable source code in the sources.list (via "Software & Updates" GUI), then sudo apt update, then apt source packagename
[06:03] <lotuspsychje> jansch: cool
[06:13] <Neo4> in crontab we can add tasks from file do crontab /path/to/file
[06:20] <jusss> hi there, I use gsetting set the caribou keyboard use tablet layout, and I find that ctrl key doesn't work, which layout is in /usr/share/caribou/layout/tablet/us.xml
[06:24] <jansch> lotuspsychje: and it even contains a .dsc file with a description and a link to a web-browsable git repo. Nice!
[06:48] <Gegsite> Hey! My 17.04 update manager is not working about 2 weeks now. It say, can't reach the address
[06:48] <aib> can anyone explain why my ping and ssh don't seem to use /etc/resolv.conf? https://paste.linux.community/view/b0f77d14
[06:48] <Gegsite> E: The repository 'http://hu.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu zesty Release' does no longer have a Release file.
[06:50] <Gegsite> oh... So 17.04 is EoL ?
[06:50] <hateball> !eolupgrade | Gegsite
[06:51] <hateball> It went eol the 13th iirc
[06:51] <GeniusOfLove> my virtualbox running the latest Ubuntu keeps going black screen and there seems no way out of it
[06:52] <Gegsite> thought that all .04  ending is LTS....
[06:53] <Gegsite> well hateball, I'm going to wait till the 18.04 comes... only 2 months now
[06:53] <GeniusOfLove> 16.04.03
[06:54] <GeniusOfLove> apparently i've blocked hateball cuz i haven't seen that name at all
[06:54] <hateball> Gegsite: you're still going to need to upgrade to 17.10 first
[06:54] <GeniusOfLove> oh, here it is
[06:55] <Gegsite> hmmm so do dist-upgrad now?
[06:55] <GeniusOfLove> why would you name yourself hateball
[06:57] <Gegsite> like why GeniusOfLove  :P
[06:58] <hateball> Gegsite: Follow the instructions in the link above
[06:58] <hateball> Then you can do a regular do-release-upgrade from 17.10 once 18.04 is released
[07:14] <vaibhav_> hello body t
[07:16] <lightgun> hello
[07:17] <yogi1984> lightgun: hello world
[07:17] <lightgun> indeed
[07:19] <yogi1984> indeed job?
[07:34] <Furai> Hey, something happened to my ubuntu installation and network-manager stopped working with custom DNS entries, I think automatic don't work as well.
[07:34] <Furai> Still, the custom entries are what I'm after.
[07:35] <Furai> It sets up reolv.conf to use local nameserver but I don't know really where too look for configuration of that nameserver.
[07:37] <lotuspsychje> Furai: ubuntu version? kernel? nm version?
[07:40] <Furai> Ubuntu 17.10 x86_64  4.13.0-32-generic Network-manager Version: 1.8.4-1ubuntu3
[07:40] <hackstock> hi there
[07:40] <hackstock> i am getting a very long (haven't timed) delay when selecting my usb drive and grub loading
[07:40] <hackstock> it's a flashing underscore
[07:40] <x4i_> i installed Rstudio but it does not show up in shortcuts. Where did it go?
[07:41] <Furai> hackstock, check you dmesg when it boots up? Maybe there's some hint.
[07:41] <x4i_> same question for MS Visual Code - i dont see it in shortcuts
[07:41] <Furai> lotuspsychje, Ubuntu 17.10 x86_64  4.13.0-32-generic Network-manager Version: 1.8.4-1ubuntu3
[07:41] <x4i_> ubuntu 17.10
[07:44] <hackstock> Furai:
[07:44] <hackstock> are you telling me dmesg is logging before grub starts?
[07:45] <hackstock> very baffling
[07:45] <hackstock> this has nothing to do with grub timeout
[07:45] <hackstock> it's all before grub can hook
[07:46] <hackstock> maybe its my BIOS
[07:46] <GeniusOfLove> are you talking about investment markets?
[07:46] <lotuspsychje> !support | GeniusOfLove
[07:46] <MoL0ToV> ola
[07:47] <GeniusOfLove> do you think i'm a liar, lotuspsychje
[07:47] <bazhang> GeniusOfLove, lets stop that now please
[07:47] <GeniusOfLove> stop what
[07:47] <bazhang> GeniusOfLove, this channel is support only , not random chatter
[07:48] <GeniusOfLove> what do you mean support
[07:48] <lotuspsychje> !es | MoL0ToV
[07:48] <bazhang> GeniusOfLove, ubuntu technical support
[07:48] <GeniusOfLove> baz, I use Ubuntu
[07:49] <bazhang> GeniusOfLove, then stay topical, leave the random non-sequitur commentary outside this channel
[07:49] <MoL0ToV> hi ;P
[07:53] <GeniusOfLove> I said a true but unflattering thing about a "christian woman" and she took me to court because facebook is awful
[07:54] <bazhang> GeniusOfLove, thats not topical here at all
[07:54] <GeniusOfLove> sorry, whut
[07:54] <GeniusOfLove> my bad
[07:55] <bazhang> GeniusOfLove, we have asked many times now, nonsense chatter outside this channel
[07:55] <GeniusOfLove> bazhang, sorry, what have you asked about, I will asnwer
[07:59] <Falpha> how do I look at my hardware in ubuntu?
[07:59] <Falpha> I don't know what kind of motherboard I have.
[08:01] <auronandace> Falpha: sudo lshwwill give you a bit of info
[08:01] <auronandace> Falpha: sudo lshw
[08:03] <Furai> lotuspsychje, I know you wanted to help me - anyway, fixed my issue by doing dpkg-reconfigure resolvconf/network-manager
[08:22] <hackstock> hi I have a huge delay in my GRUB menu showing up
[08:23] <hackstock> around 60 seconds
[08:24] <hackstock> not sure what went wrong but something is definitely wrong
[08:24] <hackstock> I tried resetting my BIOS to defaults, that is not it
[08:24] <auronandace> hackstock: checked if there are any bios updates?
[08:24] <hackstock> ^
[08:25] <auronandace> hackstock: recently changed any hardware?
[08:26] <hackstock> no
[08:26] <hackstock> it's the only drive connected
[08:26] <hackstock> i've tried different usb ports too
[08:26] <auronandace> hackstock: when did you start noticing this?
[08:26] <hackstock> so it is software related
[08:26] <hackstock> this week
[08:27] <auronandace> hackstock: so it never used to have this delay?
[08:35] <GeniusOfLove> i'm frustrated
[08:36] <GeniusOfLove> meh, don't buy in
[08:36] <GeniusOfLove> what even is this
[08:36] <hackstock> hi
[08:36] <hackstock> trying to troubleshoot a long delay before GRUB menu loading
[08:36] <hackstock> 60 second delay
[08:37] <GeniusOfLove> i want to short BTC
[08:37] <GeniusOfLove> I want to short it SOO HARDDD
[08:37] <ducasse> GeniusOfLove: stay on topic, please
[08:37] <GeniusOfLove> but how, i don't think it's optional
[08:38] <GeniusOfLove> sorry, i'm leaving ducasse
[08:39] <hackstock> trying to troubleshoot grub delay
[08:39] <hackstock> on boot
[08:40] <auronandace> hackstock: so it never used to have this delay?
[08:41] <hackstock> no
[08:41] <hackstock> to fix it
[08:41] <hackstock> likely will be a waste of time
[08:41] <hackstock> just do a fresh install
[08:41] <hackstock> but i figured i would ask once
[08:41] <hackstock> in case any master hackers were around
[08:42] <auronandace> hackstock: you mentioned trying multiple usb ports. are you talking about getting to grub on a usb stick or usb external harddrive?
[08:43] <hackstock> doesnt matter
[08:43] <hackstock> same thing
[08:43] <frechdachs69> Q: does anyone know whether there is an update package for SDDM? current package is based on SDDM version 0.13.0 (as of 2015-11-04)
[08:43] <frechdachs69> for xenial?
[08:43] <auronandace> hackstock: if it is a stick then how old is the stick? do you get this delay on other machines?
[08:44] <hackstock> its not the drive
[08:44] <hackstock> its software related
[08:45] <hackstock> i just dont have the hard drive space to backup and reinstall
[08:45] <hackstock> oh well
[08:51] <auronandace> hackstock: you think this started happening after a certain update?
[09:26] <jacopastorius> hi guys
[09:27] <jacopastorius> i have one simple question. i have nvidia gpu and proprietary drivers installed
[09:27] <jacopastorius> Why lsmod | grep nvidia does not show anything?
[09:28] <techsynt> hello how do i create a new wired connection through network manager in terminal ?
[09:28] <k01101011> grip VGA  see what that does
[09:28] <techsynt> i have 2 ethernet adapters , the second one isn't configured
[09:29] <hateball> jacopastorius: what does this say: lspci -k |grep -A 3 VGA
[09:29] <jacopastorius> hateball: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 06)
[09:29] <jacopastorius> 	Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. 4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller
[09:29] <jacopastorius> 	Kernel driver in use: i915
[09:29] <jacopastorius> 	Kernel modules: i915
[09:30] <hateball> jacopastorius: so this is a laptop with hybrid graphics?
[09:30] <jacopastorius> i think the module loaded is i915 atm because i'm using a laptop
[09:30] <jacopastorius> yes, hybrid
[09:30] <jacopastorius> do i have to switch to nvidia to see related module loaded?
[09:30] <hateball> jacopastorius: then you need to make sure the package nvidia-prime is installed, then go into nvidia-settings and pick the driver
[09:30] <hateball> yes
[09:30] <jacopastorius> thank you very much
[09:32] <jacopastorius> just another question. When a few thing will be clear for me, i'll compile 4.5 kernel from my own. I'm using xubuntu 6.04 LTS and i'm gonna import the config file which i'm using with the actual kernel. is it ok?
[09:32] <nogodsnomasters> why are you doing that
[09:33] <jacopastorius> nogodsnomasters: just for fun
[09:33] <nogodsnomasters> try linux from scratch
[09:33] <yeeeey> hello
[09:33] <nogodsnomasters> but it's not fun
[09:33] <nogodsnomasters> hi yeeeey
[09:33] <yeeeey> its fun
[09:33] <yeeeey> u not fun
[09:33] <jacopastorius> what do you mean with from scratch
[09:33] <nogodsnomasters> how r u
[09:33] <nogodsnomasters> you install linux without an installer
[09:34] <nogodsnomasters> you install it manually
[09:34] <k01101011> ha ha lfs bullshit on that bullshit
[09:34] <techsynt> can anyone answer my question . or it's not the right channel to ask ?
[09:34] <nogodsnomasters> lfs is good
[09:34] <k01101011> gentoo yeah maybe
[09:35] <jacopastorius> nogodsnomasters: ok. but lets suppose i want to install 4.5 kernel in ubuntu. Is it possible?
[09:36] <hateball> oh they left
[09:36] <k01101011> techsynt:  nmtui
[09:36] <hateball> jacopastorius: maybe it is, but it is not supported in this channel
[09:36] <Ben64> jacopastorius: anything is possible, but it's a bad idea
[09:36] <jacopastorius> ok thank you
[09:37] <nogodsnomasters> jacopastorius, I have installed latest kernel in ubuntu before
[09:37] <nogodsnomasters> but it's a bad idea
[09:37] <nogodsnomasters> it might break things
[09:37] <Ben64> 4.5 isn't the latest
[09:37] <Ben64> it will definitely break things
[09:38] <nogodsnomasters> that's like asking, can I put a 2006 nissan engine in a 1996 nissan car?
[09:39] <jacopastorius> nogodsnomasters: i'd like to do that as well if i had a 1996 nissan. I like to tweak and improve things :D
[09:39] <jacopastorius> but if i risk to break something, better to forgive about that
[09:39] <Ben64> it's more like putting a 1996 engine into a 2016 car
[09:40] <jacopastorius> I read about some improvements and implementation about power management in 4.5 kernel, so, having a laptop, i thought thath using the new kernel should be interesting
[09:41] <Ben64> 4.5 is not new
[09:41] <jacopastorius> but it is newer than 4.13 that is using ubuntu 6.04
[09:41] <Ben64> no
[09:41] <Ben64> 13 is bigger than 5
[09:42] <jacopastorius> meh you're right
[09:42] <jacopastorius> why the hell then the latest stable kernel in kernel.org is the 4.5?
[09:42] <Ben64> it isn't
[09:43] <jacopastorius> sorry, i was a little bit confused. i mean 4.15
[09:43] <nogodsnomasters> you should install the windows kernel.dll in ubuntu
[09:43] <Ben64> well you could install the mainline kernel, or you could wait a couple months for 18.04's kernel to make it to hwe-edge
[09:44] <nogodsnomasters> kernel.dll is great for ubuntu
[09:44] <Ben64> nogodsnomasters: don't do that here
[09:44] <jacopastorius> nogodsnomasters: you're not of any help
[09:45] <jacopastorius> i'm just trying to learn, nothing else
[09:45] <nogodsnomasters> jacopastorius, download the source code, configure the kernel, make the kernel then install the kernel
[09:45] <nogodsnomasters> that's the steps
[09:45] <Ben64> !mainline | jacopastorius
[09:45] <Ben64> this is a much easier way
[09:46] <jacopastorius> thank you guys
[09:59] <null4bl3> hi guys. if i suddenly get "mount error: cifs filesystem not supported by the system" with cifs-utils installed on my Ubuntu 14.04 3.19.0-25-generic server.. Where should i pry around to learn why?
[09:59] <null4bl3> a reboot did not help
[10:02] <nogodsnomasters> update cifs-utils?
[10:02] <nogodsnomasters> null4bl3,
[10:02] <nogodsnomasters> null4bl3, try and update your cifs-utils
[10:03] <null4bl3> i already reinstalled cifs-utils without any luck
[10:03] <null4bl3> i do however get an extended error that puzzles me: mount error: cifs filesystem not supported by the system mount error(19): No such device
[10:04] <null4bl3> if cifs filesystem is unknown why get additional "no such device"
[10:04] <Ben64> what are you typing exactly
[10:06] <null4bl3> sudo mount.cifs //ip/share /mnt/dir -o credentials=/path/to/credentials,vers=1.0,sec=ntlm,iocharset=utf8
[10:07] <null4bl3> modprobe cifs  returns:
[10:07] <null4bl3> modprobe: ERROR: ../libkmod/libkmod.c:556 kmod_search_moddep() could not open moddep file '/lib/modules/3.19.0-25-generic/modules.dep.bin'
[10:08] <Ben64> oh, 3.19 isn't supported anymore
[10:08] <Seveas> null4bl3: that sounds like a much deeper problem. Try sudo dpkg --configure -a, and if that does not outut anything: sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r)
[10:09] <null4bl3> i have been trying to get them to update the prod server.. this could my gold ticket.. :)
[10:09] <null4bl3> thank you.. will try
[10:09] <Ben64> you gotta either go back to trusty's 3.13 or up to 16.04's 4.4
[10:09] <daniel__> server irc.all4y.net
[10:09] <Seveas> Ben64: oh, 3.19 isn't what you get with 14.04?
[10:10] <Ben64> no, it was supported for a year, until august 2016
[10:10] <Seveas> ah
[10:10] <Ben64> it's the kernel from 15.04, which is dead
[10:10] <Seveas> Quite so
[10:11] <Ben64> so it's still got meltdown and all those other goodies
[10:43] <anonny> hi
[10:45] <lapio> hi, I have this problem with monitors, my lifebook's main screen is dead and I'm using an external HDMI monitor (via DP-adapter) without issues but I have another monitor which uses VGA, the problem is that that VGA monitor randomly(like after 30min or so of usage) stops working and gives this error "not optimum mode, recommended mode: 1280x1024", which is the resolution by default and after the error
[10:46] <lapio> xrandr(arandr) only shows a 1024x768 max resolution which does not work at all
[10:47] <lapio> I've tried adding the right resolution but it just gives me a black screen after activating the monitor
[10:47] <lapio> GPU is intel btw
[10:48] <Haris> hello all
[10:48] <Haris> I'm on 14.x
[10:49] <anonny> Is amazon in ubuntu?
[10:49] <Haris> I ran a bash script with bash -x ./script-name.sh. Now, I can't bring to terminate it
[10:50] <Haris> I can't terminate it. I kill its pid. It restarts another pid
[10:53] <Haris> How to run this script so no output on stdout is generated ?
[10:53] <Haris> noshup ./script-name.sh >&/dev/null & doesn't seem to be the correct way to doing it on 14.04.x
[10:54] <Haris> This syntax works on centos
[10:54] <Haris> why not on ubuntu ?
[10:54] <Haris> shell is same i.e., bash
[10:54] <Ben64> ./foo.sh > /dev/null 2>&1 &
[10:55] <Haris> don't use nohup ?
[11:02] <funabashi> hi guys ist possible i can see what a guy have done atfter he removed/clean bash_history ?
[11:08] <sledgehammer7679> hallo
[11:12] <learningc> I have a situation
[11:12] <learningc> I have a few terminals open
[11:12] <learningc> But I cannot grab them
[11:13] <learningc> so they cannot be selected anymore
[11:13] <learningc> How can I resolve this?
[11:14] <learningc> fahadash, yes
[11:23] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[11:26] <SimonNL> learningc: alt,tab   maybe
[11:35] <muskan> hello
[11:35] <muskan> I'm having trouble installing virtualbox 5.2.6 on ubuntu 16.10
[11:36] <muskan> error log : dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of virtualbox-5.2:
[11:36] <muskan>  virtualbox-5.2 depends on libqt5opengl5 (>= 5.0.2) | libqt5opengl5-gles (>= 5.0.2); however:
[11:36] <muskan>   Package libqt5opengl5 is not installed.
[11:36] <muskan>   Package libqt5opengl5-gles is not installed.
[11:36] <muskan>  virtualbox-5.2 depends on libqt5printsupport5 (>= 5.0.2); however:
[11:36] <muskan>   Package libqt5printsupport5 is not installed.
[11:37] <marlo_> musalbas, how are you attempting to install?  through apt or are you downloading a package from vb
[11:38] <marlo_> muskan, how are you attempting to install?  through apt or are you downloading a package from vb
[11:49] <muskan> hello
[11:49] <muskan> i'm new to ubuntu
[11:49] <muskan> and having difficulty installing virtualbox
[11:49] <muskan> can anyone help ?
[11:50] <jacks_> hi, im installing gnome and libreoffice has a mismatch hash, is there a way i can just force it to install regardless of the hash mismatch
[11:50] <vlt> muskan: What have you tried so far?
[11:51] <muskan> i have tried to install missing packges
[11:51] <muskan> libqt5opengl using apt-get install command
[11:51] <muskan> but it's not working stating the package has no installation candidate
[11:51] <vlt> jacks_: I would not recommend that. Can you try what happens after `apt update`?
[11:52] <vlt> muskan: Try `apt search libqt5opengl`
[11:52] <jacks_> vlt, really dont care its a test box, if libreoffice is broken, could care less..
[11:53] <muskan> vlt, did it. what next ?
[11:54] <vlt> muskan: Does the output tell you anything interesting?
[11:54] <muskan> it stated sorting and fulltextsearch done
[11:54] <jacks_> right now its the only thing holding back the gnome install
[11:54] <vlt> muskan: If there are no packages listed then none matches your search string.
[11:55] <muskan> Oh!
[11:55] <muskan> what should i do now ?
[11:55] <vlt> muskan: What problem are you trying to solve?
[11:56] <muskan> I'm trying to install virtualbox
[11:56] <muskan> dpkg is showing error of packets not installed
[11:56] <vlt> muskan: 16.10 is EOL
[11:58] <vlt> muskan: If you really want to use that: Have you tried running `apt update` first?
[11:58] <muskan> isn't there any way to fix the installtion without updrading to latest version ?
[11:58] <muskan> i have tried "apt update"
[11:59] <michagogo> Quick question. Am I correct in thinking that following the instructions for Xenial at https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/master/doc/build-windows.md#building-for-64-bit-windows will completely trash your system?
[11:59] <muskan> and install -f as well as --missing-f so far
[11:59] <muskan> but nothing is working
[12:00] <muskan> i have also tried to change update server from local to main following a blog for similar fix
[12:00] <mopdprobe> What to do if my friend is hording food?
[12:00] <mopdprobe> From my fridge.
[12:04] <muskan> vlt ? are you still there ?
[12:06] <BluesKaj> muskan, now try sudo apt upgrade
[12:07] <muskan> getting error of unmet dependencies
[12:08] <BluesKaj> what are you trying to install?
[12:08] <muskan> virtualbox
[12:10] <jimb_> michagogo, I do see where they have you add the Zesty repo to Xenial, if using Xenial, and I don't like that part... since it EOL'd Jan 13th
[12:13] <nogodsnomasters> ubuntu is not good for me
[12:13] <nogodsnomasters> all linux and no games makes homer go crazy
[12:14] <jimb_> nogodsnomasters, Tried Steam? Either way, no distro is for everyone.
[12:14] <oerheks> and how is that related to ubuntu support, nogodsnomasters ?
[12:14] <nogodsnomasters> sorry
[12:15] <michagogo> jimb_: heh
[12:15] <michagogo> But EOL or not, doesn’t that pretty much wreck the system anyway?
[12:16] <michagogo> Is there a better (right) way to get a newer version of mingw on a Xenial system?
[12:16] <oerheks> michagogo, the mirrors are down, so figure..
[12:17] <oerheks> !info g++-mingw-w64-x86-64 xenial
[12:17] <oerheks> hmm 5.3 ...
[12:18] <nogodsnomasters> OK I'm installing steam.
[12:20] <oerheks> michagogo, you *could* look into this PPA, but it is a test... https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-toolchain-r/+archive/ubuntu/test?field.series_filter=xenial
[12:21] <michagogo> oerheks: I’m only seeing gcc there
[12:23] <ilfpott> hi
[12:24] <ilfpott> Can I write python scripts instead of bash ?
[12:24] <oerheks> michagogo, oops, you are right :-(
[12:24] <oerheks> ilfpott, sure, python is standard available
[12:24] <oerheks> !python
[12:25] <oerheks> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Python
[12:27] <ilfpott> I know python oerheks
[12:27] <ilfpott> but how'd I use it to replace bash ?
[12:29] <michagogo> ilfpott: well, what are you doing with bash?
[12:30] <michagogo> oerheks: hm. I wonder how much trouble it would be to backport.
[12:31] <coolguy> hi
[12:31] <ScarZz> hallo anton
[12:32] <ilfpott> michagogo: I intend ot avoid bash
[12:32] <oerheks> ilfpott, easy to find out, to run: python /path/to/script.py  # and the header: #!/usr/bin/env python
[12:32] <ilfpott> michagogo: why not,
[12:32] <ilfpott> I use python
[12:32] <ilfpott> but for shell scripting
[12:34] <jimb_> ilfpott, if using Python, it won't really be "shell" scripting. You will be a layer removed at best. Not sure this is the right channel for details though.
[12:38] <jimb_> oerheks, if using that header (+1 BTW, that's the header I use normally), then `chmod +x <filename>` and skip calling python... simply `<path/to/filename>`
[12:42] <jimb_> !shebang
[12:51] <leeyaa> hello
[12:51] <leeyaa> trying to setup an apt mirror server. everything runs fine manually, but for some reason my default cron job is not working
[12:51] <leeyaa> i can see cron job executes, but nothing happens
[12:51] <leeyaa> any tip how to debug it ?
[12:52] <leeyaa> oh, wait, im not debugging it properly lol
[12:52] <leeyaa> i expected that when i run run-parts --report /etc/cron.daily it will execute my cron job from /etc/cron.d ... silly me
[12:55] <warrshrike> does anyone else think the ubunu 17.10 gnome theme sucks super bad?
[12:55] <leeyaa> warrshrike: it sucks since the moment they introduced unity imho ;p
[12:55] <warrshrike> leeyaa: no but unity still looked better
[12:55] <warrshrike> i mean just look at the top bar
[12:56] <frechdachs69> Q: does anyone know whether there is an update package for xenial SDDM? current package is based on SDDM version 0.13.0 (as of 2015-11-04)
[12:56] <warrshrike> its so...jarring
[12:56] <warrshrike> the menu integrated into top bar looked so slick :/
[12:56] <warrshrike> no its just a jarring mess...firefox means three huge ugly bars stacked. and the gray color doesn't even 'flow'
[12:57] <warrshrike> guys...its making me physically ill
[12:57] <warrshrike> God I hate mark shuttleworth
[12:57] <warrshrike> the whole unity 8 hoopla
[12:57] <leeyaa> warrshrike: ive been using blackbox and e17 for years now, never looked back
[12:57] <warrshrike> God
[12:57] <warrshrike> whats e17 a desktop env?
[12:58] <leeyaa> https://www.enlightenment.org/
[12:58] <leeyaa> i have it since its very early release and was using it on old p4 box
[12:58] <leeyaa> at the time gnome and other envs were really slow for that computer - e17 was running great
[12:59] <warrshrike> leeyaa: looks like elementary os
[12:59] <warrshrike> maybe theyre using this...
[12:59] <warrshrike> not bad at all.
[12:59] <leeyaa> anyway, how to force cron.d to run without waiting ?
[13:00] <warrshrike> so anyway I can't imagine any reason for this monstrosity....compared to this even windows 10 looks like the pinnacle of harmony
[13:00] <leeyaa> yeah even kde looks good compared to gnome ;p
[13:00] <R13ose> How do I find out the default brother printer IP address?  Mine is saying Initializing and can't fix this
[13:00] <warrshrike> is there a single man here who doesn't hate it?
[13:01] <warrshrike> leeyaa: I always liked KDE but could never use it long term...theres just something
[13:01] <R13ose> Something?
[13:02] <warrshrike> R13ose: i think maybe its the lack of a harmonious and opinionated design and too much customization
[13:02] <warrshrike> you customize a bit then a bit more then it starts being too much.
[13:02] <leeyaa> warrshrike: then just use something simple like busybox
[13:03] <leeyaa> erm blackbox i mean
[13:03] <SoniEx3> why do packages get held back?
[13:03] <warrshrike> IMO unity was a good compromise looked 'clean' and was functional
[13:03] <warrshrike> leeyaa: yeah i will...but still i got cry about this somewhere
[13:03] <warrshrike> :p
[13:04] <R13ose> Any thoughts on my original question?
[13:06] <leeyaa> R13ose: usually default stuff are written on tags or stickers or something
[13:06] <leeyaa> e.g. on every wifi router, default credentials and IP are written on the back.
[13:06] <SoniEx3> why's there a sole mention of CTCP messages in the channel guidelines?
[13:08] <R13ose> leeyaa: the default IP address is on the printer?
[13:12] <leeyaa> R13ose: i dont know, just a suggestion. it could be dhcp as well
[13:12] <leeyaa> check user manual
[13:14] <R13ose> leeyaa: I printed the config pages and says Initializing which means the IP address is not getting there from the internet box.  I am unsure how to fix.
[13:21] <SimonNL> R13ose: check if dhcp serving is enabled in router/on system
[13:22] <R13ose> SimonNL: how?
[13:22] <SimonNL> router web interface and find dhcp client list there
[13:23] <R13ose> SimonNL: don't you need an IP address for that?
[13:24] <soee> hi, ig i have installed libreoffice bu downloading DEB files than how can i now uninstall all those packages?
[13:26] <stefan_> Hi all, I am having trouble getting my second monitor (Apple Cinema Display) to work again. I just installed 17.10 after using 14.04 LTS before. Is this the right place to ask for help?
[13:26] <hateball> soee: dpkg -r <packages>
[13:27] <SimonNL> R13ose: yes
[13:28] <ilfpott> adsc: how do  I make an invisible file on the hdd
[13:29] <ilfpott> : how do  I make an invisible file on the hdd
[13:30] <R13ose> SimonNL: DHCP is already on.  Yet, I don't see printer there
[13:31] <SimonNL> R13ose: could be printer is not set to dhcp search in the settings or better find the instructions in printer manual
[13:31] <stefan_> Ok, the monitor is detected, but stays black. I am using a ATI card (AMD Radeon HD 7790). I already tried switching drivers: from radeon to amdgpu => monitor is not even detected, radeon to amdgpupro => desaster (kernel not supported?).
[13:31] <soee> hateball: is there some parameter to remove package with dependencies as atm it doe snot allow me to do so
[13:31] <R13ose> Aum
[13:32] <SimonNL> R13ose: brand and type ?
[13:32] <R13ose> SimonNL: the printer config page says IP address is initializing so nothing is getting passed to printer
[13:32] <stefan_> Apple Cinema Display 23" (Aluminium)
[13:33] <SimonNL> R13ose: printer connected to router by cable ?
[13:33] <leeyaa> what is the alternative of /etc/sysconfig/clock on Ubuntu ?
[13:33] <hateball> soee: do you still have all the downloaded debs?
[13:33] <R13ose> SimonNL: brother HL-5250DN
[13:33] <hateball> soee: if so "dpkg -r *.deb" in that directory
[13:35] <R13ose> SimonNL: printer connected to jack via ethernet cable in one room and jack to internet box via ethernet cable in another room.
[13:36] <SimonNL> R13ose: internet box is a modem/router ?
[13:39] <R13ose> SimonNL: yes I believe so.  Called Bell Home Hub 2000
[13:43] <SimonNL> R13ose: only thing I can find about netwroking in the manual I found is  you should have a network manual on a CD
[13:43] <R13ose> SimonNL: no CD
[13:46] <ne2k> what's the cleanest way to install a backported new usb-modeswitch on xenial?
[13:49] <R13ose> SimonNL: other ideas?
[13:52] <warrshrike> hey
[13:53] <warrshrike> installed ubuntu 17.10
[13:53] <warrshrike> audio works through headphones
[13:53] <warrshrike> but not internal laptop speakers
[13:53] <warrshrike> help!
[13:53] <SimonNL> R13ose: try finding          brother HL-5250DN network manual       online. and read the instructions. only thing I can think of right now
[13:54] <SimonNL> R13ose: and kind of short in time right now have to go afk in some minutes
[13:54] <warrshrike> Please help brothers.
[13:54] <warrshrike> I need to watch medieval history show
[13:55] <SimonNL> R13ose: if this fails you could try connecting in usb.
[13:57] <Mr_Pan> warrshrike, try setup Pavucontrol
[13:57] <warrshrike> Mr_Pan: install pavucontrol you mean?
[13:58] <Mr_Pan> warrshrike, usually already installed
[13:58] <adeo> When will Firefox 58 be available :-)
[13:59] <soee> hateball: fails, https://paste.ubuntu.com/26495206/
[13:59] <warrshrike> Mr_Pan: it shows Speakers
[13:59] <warrshrike> the bar thingy moves with music
[13:59] <warrshrike> but
[13:59] <warrshrike> no sound through speakers :/
[14:00] <Mr_Pan> warrshrike, install Pavucontrol and setup correct audio exit (speakers or headphones)
[14:00] <warrshrike> i did install pavucontrol
[14:00] <warrshrike> speakers selected
[14:01] <hateball> soee: hmm, I could swear that used to work. well then you'll need to check /var/log/dpkg.log and undo what you did
[14:02] <warrshrike> Mr_Pan: selected at 'port'
[14:05] <brainwash> adeo: you don't use a supported ubuntu release? firefox was updated to version 58 a week ago
[14:06] <BluesKaj> warrshrike, what about the vol ctl in pavucontrol and also the vol ctls in alsamixer?
[14:07] <yates> is there some flavor of an "apt" command which will find the package which contains a certain file? namely, i'm trying to determine what provides libcrypto: "error while loading shared libraries: libcrypto.so.10: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[14:08] <hateball> !apt-file
[14:08] <deem> yates: apt-file
[14:08] <stefan_> Anyone got an idea, why my second monitor stays black? It is detected.
[14:08] <soee> hateball: ok i had to remove one by one like: sudo dpkg -r libreoffice6.0-ure
[14:08] <adeo> brainwash: No, I'm trying out Ubuntu 18.04, which still has Firefox 57 :-(
[14:08] <yates> deem: thanks!
[14:08] <adeo> I thought I was going to get the new version first :D
[14:08] <brainwash> adeo: usually it does not
[14:09] <brainwash> adeo: sometimes it can even take several months
[14:09] <adeo> brainwash: Damn, you are right :-( I really didn't expect this :D thanks anyway :-)
[14:10] <warrshrike> BluesKaj: the vol ctrl under 'output devices'?
[14:11] <BluesKaj> yes
[14:11] <warrshrike> yeah thats what im messing with
[14:11] <BluesKaj> also alsamixer in the terminal
[14:11] <warrshrike> no dice...i initially felt its an issue of 'selecting' the right output device
[14:11] <brainwash> adeo: you could ask in #ubuntu-mozillateam about this. maybe offer your help if needed
[14:12] <warrshrike> BluesKaj: speaker and maste are both full
[14:14] <warrshrike> BluesKaj: weird...selecting headphones in pulse works for headphones...but speaker doesnt
[14:14] <warrshrike> BluesKaj: one interesting thing...speakers has [unavailable] written next to it in pulse
[14:15] <BluesKaj> unplug your 'phones to try the speakers
[14:15] <warrshrike> the [unavailable] goes away when i click mute twice
[14:16] <warrshrike> BluesKaj: yeah tried....
[14:16] <warrshrike> BluesKaj: the unavailable comes after plugging in tho so yeah
[14:16] <BluesKaj> qassim, also inalsamixer , make sure the automute is disabled
[14:16] <BluesKaj> oops warrshrike^
[14:17] <warrshrike> BluesKaj: no automate option in alsa...
[14:18] <BluesKaj> automute
[14:18] <BluesKaj> it's on the far right
[14:19] <BluesKaj> warrshrike, well  maybe crossposting in linux will help you... I'm done here
[14:19] <warrshrike> BluesKaj: yeah it was enabled i disabled it...no dice
[14:20] <warrshrike> BluesKaj: yeah done that already....first time i had this issue
[14:20] <warrshrike> it was okay on 16.04 and 17.10
[14:20] <BluesKaj> warrshrike, try relogin
[14:20] <warrshrike> now i fresh installed 17.10.1
[14:20] <warrshrike> and this issue
[14:20] <warrshrike> okay trying
[14:21] <EoflaOE> Back to the problem that is interrupted by school: Yesterday I created a USB for Kubuntu 17.10.1 by using Rufus for Windows XP. When I booted it I saw the installation screen which says to try or to install. I clicked on Try, and it took me to the non-blinking hyphen for a minute, then the hyphen disappeared. I waited and still there is no KDE 5 de
[14:21] <EoflaOE> sktop. I have read that if I could run KDE 4, then I could run KDE 5. I pressed Num lock but it looks like the system is frozen.
[14:24] <otherRick> Hi all, How to set an custom name to a event device for example: /dev/input/keypad0?
[14:24] <otherRick> I want use dev_set_name(evdev->dev, "keypad"); but I don't know how obtain the event device associated to the input_dev
[14:25] <warrshrike_> BluesKaj: nope no dice
[14:25] <warrshrike_> re logged in
[14:25] <adeo> brainwash: thanks for the hint! I found a ppa offering Firefox 59 for Ubuntu 18.04 I think it is provided by mozilla team!
[14:26] <akik> EoflaOE: when in the grub boot menu, edit the kernel boot parameters and remove "quiet splash". that way you could get more info what is going wrong
[14:29] <EoflaOE> OK akik.
[14:31] <EoflaOE> But it is Live, not installed
[14:37] <EoflaOE> I don't think there is something wrong, but when the installation part come, X11 somehow started. When I pressed try, the terminal appears with system info about what is happening, then the cursor appeared and disappeared. Then the hyphen appeared and after few seconds it disappeared with no explanation of what is wrong. I cannot switch to TTY at a
[14:37] <EoflaOE> ll and the system is frozen
[15:12] <oldbuntu> Hello guys, I'm having an issue with upgrading an Ubuntu 16.10 server to 17.10, but I can't run "apt-get install update-manager-core" to upgrade, because 16.10 is "end of life". I've tried changing my sources.list to old-releases.ubuntu.com but I still get a 404: "E: Failed to fetch http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/u/update-manager/python3-update-manager_16.10.10_all.deb". I'm out of ideas, any suggestions please?
[15:13] <seiburii> hello all
[15:13] <EoflaOE> Hi seiburii
[15:15] <seiburii> Any help appreciated on this - I currently have a debian jessie armhf rootfs which can boot on tablet device which has been provided on xda. I am attempting to mimic this in creating a ubuntu armhf rootfs which can be natively booted (as the creator hinted that it could be done).
[15:15] <seiburii> is it possible to copy kernel and modules between debian and ubuntu?
[15:16] <EoflaOE> oldbuntu: I searched on the link you provided,and it is no longer found on old-releases. Can you try to download it from security.ubuntu.com?
[15:17] <jnewt> i have lost my image previews in cinnamon de.  preferences show them turned on
[15:19] <EoflaOE> Never mind. Wrong site. I am afraid that you must wait until old-releases provide that.
[15:22] <oldbuntu> Isn't it weird that old-releases provides this package for all versions including 18.04, but not 16.10?
[15:23] <EoflaOE> Yes, that is weird. Maybe old-releases forgot about 16.10 being EOL
[15:24] <tobiti> hello
[15:25] <EoflaOE> Hi tobiti
[15:25] <oldbuntu> Well that's awkward
[15:31] <Dserge> Hey all
[15:32] <kostkon> Dserge, hi
[15:34] <AlexPortable> The repository 'http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu zesty-updates Release' does not have a Release file
[15:34] <cristian_c> hi
[15:35] <cristian_c> how can I resize title bar buttons in appòications designed for gnome?
[15:35] <cristian_c> any ideas?
[15:36] <BluesKaj> AlexPortable, zesty support is eol tomorrow
[15:37] <AlexPortable> aha
[15:37] <AlexPortable> thanks
[15:37] <BluesKaj> np
[15:38] <mark721> hi guys
[15:38] <EoflaOE> hi mark721
[15:38] <mark721> currently when i switch between workspaces e.g using ctrl + alt + (right arrow key) and ctrl + alt + (left arrow key)
[15:38] <mark721> and one workspace has chrome open in *fullscreen*
[15:39] <mark721> and the other can have nothing open
[15:39] <mark721> it can crash when switching very quickly between workspaces.
[15:40] <mark721> so then the whole pc locks up, sometimes after a minute or two its starts responding i.e everything that it should've done in one minute while me clicking etc starts appearing in less than a second
[15:40] <mark721> but sometimes it doesnt and it forces me to reboot.
[15:40] <brainwash> mark721: I would disable hardware acceleration in chrome, and see if that helps
[15:40] <mark721> Now, now while i don't always switch very quickly between workspaces its not a big issue
[15:41] <mark721> but when i play youtube video
[15:41] <mark721> in full screen
[15:41] <mark721> and switch workspaces (back and forth btw when i switching i mean back and forth not just from left workspace to right) at "normal" speed
[15:41] <mark721> *when i say switching i mean back and forth
[15:41] <mark721> brainwash, hm you think?
[15:42] <cristian_c> *applications
[15:42] <kostkon> mark721, which DE?
[15:42] <mark721> Ubuntu
[15:42] <mark721> wait sory
[15:42] <kostkon> cristian_c, 17.10?
[15:42] <mark721> lol what is a DE
[15:42] <mark721> OH
[15:42] <kostkon> oops
[15:42] <mark721> 16.04
[15:42] <mark721> mb
[15:42] <cristian_c> kostkon: yeah
[15:42] <kostkon> !enter | mark721
[15:43] <kostkon> cristian_c, have you tried a different theme?
[15:43] <cristian_c> kostkon: I don't know how to change the theme for gnome applications,vwhen using a different desktop
[15:44] <cristian_c> *flavour
[15:44] <EoflaOE> mark721, Desktop environments like Gnome, KDE, ...
[15:44] <mark721> Unity
[15:44] <cristian_c> kostkon: I suppose, gnome applications are using adwaita
[15:45] <cristian_c> while everyelse is using another theme
[15:45] <kostkon> cristian_c, maybe with gnome-tweak, I'm not really sure though
[15:46] <cristian_c> kostkon: I don't know if gnome tweak applies also to different flavours (kubuntu, xubuntu, ubuntu mzte, etc...)
[15:47] <rud0lf> gnome tweak for xfce environment?
[15:47] <rud0lf> sounds odd
[15:47] <cristian_c> rud0lf: read csrefully: 'gnome applications' in different desktops
[15:47] <cristian_c> for example: Software
[15:47] <cristian_c> or gedit
[15:47] <rud0lf> oh
[15:47] <cristian_c> (softwsre is pre-installed, btw)
[15:47] <cristian_c> *Software
[15:48] <brainwash> mark721: you certainly should test it
[15:48] <kostkon> cristian_c, probably it will work. and hopefully it won't try to install all the gnome related packages
[15:48] <cristian_c> uhm
[15:49] <cristian_c> kostkon: I hope '--no-recommends' option being quite working
[15:49] <cristian_c> *no-install-recommends'
[15:51] <otherRick> Hi, someone knows how register a link or path to an event input device example: /dev/input/by-id/myDevice -> /dev/input/event22?
[15:53] <Friquo> hi
[15:54] <jnewt> how do i get a specific wine application to be the default for a filetype.  when i installed the software, i set it to associate with the filetypes.  i set the default program in nemo to be wine (as the wine app is not in the list).  when i double click the file it opens in wine internet explorer now.
[15:56] <mark721> brainwash, i disabled hardware acceleration but i still got the crash this time worse than before. Somehow it made my monitor go into sleep mode? That's never happened before
[15:56] <brainwash> mark721: pretty strange
[15:56] <brainwash> mark721: did you check the system log?
[15:57] <mark721> brainwash, nope i havent used it before
[15:57] <jnewt> there's all these wine options in default program list, i'm not even sure which one is the right one.
[15:57] <EoflaOE> otherRick: try ln -sf /dev/input/by-id/myDevice /dev/input/event22
[15:59] <brainwash> jnewt: you could point it to the wine binary directly ("open with other.." or something link that)
[15:59] <brainwash> like*
[15:59] <mark721> brainwash, do you want me to share it somehow or something or ?
[15:59] <cristian_c> otherRick: ypu could use SYMLINK in udev rule
[16:00] <cristian_c> *you
[16:00] <seiburii> Any help appreciated on this - I currently have a debian jessie armhf rootfs which can boot on tablet device which has been provided on xda. I am attempting to mimic this in creating a ubuntu armhf rootfs which can be natively booted (as the creator hinted that it could be done). Is it possible to copy kernel and modules between debian and ubuntu?
[16:00] <brainwash> mark721: maybe. you should read about first https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-use-journalctl-to-view-and-manipulate-systemd-logs
[16:01] <mark721> brainwash, its quite dense do u mean all of it?
[16:02] <brainwash> mark721: no. start with "Basic Log Viewing"
[16:03] <Friquo> Question:  I installed "libreoffice" using snap. The only problem being, that the command "libreoffice" opens the old version
[16:03] <brainwash> mark721: the part after that is about persistent logs which you need to enable, because they are disabled on ubuntu
[16:03] <brainwash> mark721: otherwise the system log is gone after a reboot
[16:03] <Friquo> how can I explicitly start the newest version installed via "snap" ?
[16:06] <brainwash> Friquo: try /snap/bin/libreoffice
[16:06] <Friquo> brainwash, thank you - trying it out now
[16:07] <brainwash> that's what https://www.libreoffice.org/download/snap/ mentions
[16:07] <Friquo> it works :)))
[16:07] <Friquo> thank you so much
[16:07] <brainwash> :)
[16:07] <Friquo> sorry for not reading the page
[16:12] <oldbuntu> EoflaOE, thanks for the help. Ended up installing the packages manually from an older distribution (16.04), then followed this guide to upgrade from 16.10 to 17.04 since it's not supported by default: https://andreas.scherbaum.la/blog/archives/950-Upgrade-from-Ubuntu-16.10-yakkety-to-17.10-artful.html
[16:13] <oldbuntu> That'll teach me not to stay on LTS versions. See ya
[16:20] <hp> hello who can help me?
[16:21] <leftyfb> !ask | hp
[16:22] <hp> how can install tar.gz file
[16:25] <seiburii> hp hello, Typically you extract the tar.gz file first using "tar -xzvf <filename>" - then the software inside (assuming the tar.gz contains a program to install) can either be configure;make;make install or if a binary can be run using sh <filename>
[16:26] <nacc_> hp: where did you get said file from? typically it has instructionns
[16:26] <nacc_> hp: or as seiburii said, it's in the tarball itself
[16:27] <hp> i did it as you said but ubuntu gave errors
[16:29] <leftyfb> hp: what exactly are you trying to install?
[16:31] <leftyfb> hp: please do not pm
[16:31] <yates> deem: apt-file only searches installed packages. i am trying to find the UNINSTALLED package which will provide a certain file. any ideas?
[16:32] <leftyfb> hp: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/09/install-oracle-java-8-in-ubuntu-via-ppa.html   .... add that ppa and use oracle-java9-installer as opposed to oracle-java8-installer
[16:33] <nacc_> yates: not true
[16:33] <leftyfb> hp: please do not private message
[16:33] <hp> ok
[16:34] <hp> i am sorry
[16:35] <yates> hp: oh, ok. i guess it just couldn't find the full filename (i think that is a symlink to another similar filename)
[16:35] <yates> libcrypto.so works
[16:36] <yates> not libcrytpo.so.10
[16:36] <yates> sorry! not hp, but nacc_
[16:38] <nacc_> yates: that would be because it's libcrypto.so.1.0.0
[16:42] <yates> nacc_: you'll have to argue with the loader: ./exp-wsc./exp-wsclient: error while loading shared libraries: libcrypto.so.10: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[16:43] <leeyaa> does anyone know where i can find which 16.04 LTS kernel has meltdown and spectre patches ?
[16:43] <yates> it's probably a symlink to something else, yes. but not having the symlink means i don't know the actual file
[16:45] <auronandace> !meltdown | leeyaa
[16:46] <nacc_> yates: that biary looks weird, but ok (./exp-wsc./exp-wsclient ?) but there is no such filel in ubuntu afaict
[16:46] <nacc_> yates: is it a RH binary or something (i see RPM hits for it)
[16:47] <skinux> Can anyone tell me how to stop nginx service from starting automatically and make apache do that instead?
[16:47] <nacc_> skinux: systemctl disable nginx; systemctl enable apache2 ?
[16:48] <leeyaa> thanks auronandace
[16:52] <elichai2> hey, I have a problem, My laptop stopped booting, when I boot I go to BusyBox-initramfs, at first booting to old kernel helped but I tried running `apt autoremove && apt upgrade` and now no kernel is booting
[16:52] <auronandace> leeyaa: this link can be more informative too: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/KnowledgeBase/SpectreAndMeltdown
[16:52] <squealingcode> elichai2: Are you able to boot into recovery mode?
[16:52] <elichai2> I already tried chrooting via live cd and reinstalling grub and everything but still same problem (important to say I have luks encrypted partition)
[16:53] <elichai2> squealingcode: no
[16:54] <elichai2> running /scripts/local-bloc... lvmetad is not active yet.... then "volume group ""ubuntu-bg" not found"
[16:54] <elichai2> and "ALERT! /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root does not exist"
[16:55] <debouncer> have anyone encounter with lagging bluetooth mouse problem?
[16:56] <debouncer> The mouse model is Logitech M280
[16:56] <debouncer> Ubuntu version is 16.04
[16:57] <elichai2> (squealingcode I'm sorry I wasn't clear enough but that's what I saw seeing on the screen)
[16:57] <squealingcode> elichai2: No problem. Does "reinstalling grub and everything" include trying to reinstall the kernel?
[16:58] <elichai2> I updated the kernel when I ran apt upgrade
[16:58] <debouncer> do you think whether this is a driver problem or a hardware problem?
[16:59] <squealingcode> elichai2: In busybox, can you try to run; ls -l /dev/mapper ?
[16:59] <squealingcode> To see if your vg is listed there
[17:00] <elichai2> yeah I get only control
[17:00] <elichai2> no vg
[17:00] <roadrunneratwast> hi all.  i am trying to repartition.  i have a dual boot system.  i shrunk the windows partition and now have 40gigs unallocated, then my GRUB partition, then my ubuntu partition.  Is it safe (or even possible) to move my grub partition  over to the left?
[17:03] <squealingcode> elichai2: I don't have any experience with this specific issue, but maybe this link can help you on your way? https://feeding.cloud.geek.nz/posts/recovering-from-unbootable-ubuntu-encrypted-lvm-root-partition/
[17:03] <squealingcode> It seems to deal with the same issue you are facing.
[17:04] <squealingcode> Please do also check that the lvm2 package is still installed.
[17:05] <yates> nacc_: ha. it is my own binary. it is a c++ application which needs the libcrypto library. it is linked with the -lcrypto linker option
[17:05] <elichai2> he's just regenerating initramfs :\ I tried that already, and tried, lvm2 is installed, i'll maybe try to reinstall grub and then regenerate initramfs too and test again, maybe this time it will work
[17:05] <nacc_> yates: built on ubuntu?
[17:06] <elichai2> oh and mine doesn't use EFI, it uses boot
[17:07] <yates> nacc_: no, it was built on fedora 25
[17:07] <elichai2> (not that i think it really matters)
[17:07] <nacc_> yates: yeah you won't be ablel to run that on ubuntu
[17:07] <nacc_> yates: i'm not sure why you'd think you coulld
[17:07] <nacc_> yates: unless it's statically compiled
[17:08] <yates> this version of ubuntu and fedora 25 are both x86_84 targets, are they not?
[17:08] <yates> Linux GUI-Altium 4.4.0-109-generic #132-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jan 9 19:52:39 UTC 2018 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[17:09] <halt> Quick question, ( on 17.10 Gnome ) the automatic screen lock does not trigger, where should I look for error ( I did the setup it in Settings -> Privacy -> Screen Lock )
[17:09] <yates> are not the shared libraries in consistently named and placed?
[17:10] <yates> same abi, etc.?
[17:10] <EoflaOE> you are welcome oldbuntu
[17:16] <RobinJonsson> Hey everyone! I just did a fresh install to 17.10, and am having some tray-icon problems. With the Ubuntu appindicators extension active for gnome, no icons show up at all. I installed Topicons plus, but with topicons, only the icon for the most recently started program shows up. Any ideas?
[17:25] <ChunkzZ> where can I find chromium's version with ubuntu 16.04.03?
[17:25] <elichai2> squealingcode: maybe this you'll know, I just noticed that /etc/crypttab is empty, does this mean anything?
[17:26] <squealingcode> ChunkzZ: You can find information about installation of Chromium here https://www.chromium.org/getting-involved/download-chromium
[17:26] <elichai2> lol nvm, I accidentally read the live-boot crypttab and not the chrooted one
[17:35] <leftyfb> ChunkzZ: apt search chromium-browser
[17:40] <sravan> Hello!
[17:42] <ChunkzZ> squealingcode, that link is outdated. leftyfb anyway to check if I don't currently have ubuntu installed?
[17:42] <leftyfb> ChunkzZ: why?
[17:43] <ChunkzZ> what you mean "why" leftyfb?
[17:43] <sravan> Does anybody know about using ubuntu for machine learning and artificial intelligence. It is a query for understanding how ubuntu can be used and how much reliable it is for working with ML & AI
[17:43] <leftyfb> ChunkzZ: why do you need to know if you don't have ubuntu installed?
[17:44] <leftyfb> sravan: people do use it for those things, yes
[17:44] <ChunkzZ> leftyfb, I want to see if it's Version 64.0.3282.119 (Developer Build) (64-bit) before I install Ubuntu.
[17:44] <jackszumowski> heyyy
[17:44] <leftyfb> ChunkzZ: https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=chromium-browser
[17:44] <leftyfb> ChunkzZ: that was from a quick search on google
[17:45] <jacobholland> hi
[17:45] <jackszumowski> jake hi
[17:45] <Joeb12> Howdy
[17:45] <ChunkzZ> looks like I'll have to wait for it to be upgrade :P thanks leftyfb
[17:45] <ChunkzZ> upgraded*
[17:46] <leftyfb> ChunkzZ: the developer build won't be part of many, if any distro's by default
[17:46] <ChunkzZ> leftyfb, cheers dude. :)
[17:47] <H3llion> jake holland is gay
[17:47] <H3llion> wheres everybody at
[17:47] <xHav0k> I am gay
[17:48] <ArCa> I'm not gay
[17:48] <daniel___> exit
[17:48] <H3llion> ArCa where you aat
[17:48] <ArCa> Idk
[17:48] <ArCa> Where I'm at
[17:48] <shazbotmcnasty> I've never seen this channel look fun
[17:48] <H3llion> lets make it fun
[17:48] <leftyfb> H3llion: please leave the ignorance and negativity out of this support channel
[17:48] <xHav0k> im in a never ending loop of sadness and despair
[17:48] <shazbotmcnasty> good job H3llion, xHav0k, ArCa
[17:49] <ArCa> Thanks bae
[17:49] <leftyfb> xHav0k: since you're the same person, you as well
[17:49] <H3llion> thx shaz
[17:49] <xHav0k> who am i the same person as?
[17:49] <shazbotmcnasty> H3llion:
[17:50] <shazbotmcnasty> allgedly
[17:50] <xHav0k> im actually sitting next to H3llion
[17:50] <shazbotmcnasty> weird
[17:50] <dumblonde> yo
[17:50] <ArCa> Aren't you sitting ON him?
[17:50] <xHav0k> NOOOO
[17:50] <H3llion> yes he is
[17:50] <ArCa> Sad
[17:50] <xHav0k> no
[17:50] <H3llion> hes sitting next to me
[17:51] <shazbotmcnasty> are you guys having a LAN linuxing party?
[17:51] <xHav0k> school
[17:51] <H3llion> yea pretty much
[17:51] <AndrewD> hello ubuntu peeps
[17:51] <shazbotmcnasty> oh got it :<
[17:51] <leftyfb> please bring off topic chatter to #ubuntu-offtopic. This channel is for support questions only
[17:51] <ducasse> stay on topic, please guys
[17:51] <ChunkzZ> leftyfb, I know 18.04 is soon but is it mid April?
[17:51] <ArCa> I don't even use Ubuntu, just wanted to check out round here
[17:51] <leftyfb> ChunkzZ: it's at some point in April
[17:51] <ChunkzZ> thanks leftyfb ! can't wait.
[17:51] <AndrewD> i have been in hell the last few hours trying to install: https://github.com/Microsoft/msphpsql
[17:52] <H3llion> but i dont wanna leave lefty
[17:52] <AndrewD> i keep getting an error Unable to locate package msodbcsql
[17:52] <ducasse> ChunkzZ: there's probably a link to the release schedule in the topic in #ubuntu+1
[17:52] <ChunkzZ> got it, forgot about that channcel ducasse, cheers.
[17:52] <H3llion> try rm dir /c
[17:52] <xHav0k> or :C
[17:53] <H3llion> press alt f4
[17:53] <xHav0k> i think i have bipolar disorder
[17:53] <H3llion> thats sad
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[17:53] <dumblonde> hello
[17:54] <leftyfb> xHav0k: H3llion: dumblonde: please leave
[17:56] <AurorasAura> Hi everyone. I am looking for someone who can point me in the right direction. I have Ubuntu server 16.04 LTS and I want to make it so my machine connects to my vpn automatically everyday. Like a scheduled task. Any help would be appreciated
[17:57] <leftyfb> AurorasAura: it depends on the vpn. You can try the vpnc client and stick it in a cron job or systemd unit
[17:57] <leftyfb> AurorasAura: vpnc being for Cisco that is
[17:58] <leftyfb> AurorasAura: you'd have to look for the relevant client for your vpn connection
[17:58] <AurorasAura> Actually the command I want issued everyday is simply "expressvpn connect smart"
[17:58] <leftyfb> AurorasAura: ok, then run that in a cron job
[17:58] <AurorasAura> Cause it seems to disconnect every day.
[17:59] <leftyfb> AurorasAura: you might want to look at the clients options to see if there's a keepalive or reconnect option
[17:59] <AurorasAura> I have never messed with cron leftyfb . lol
[17:59] <leftyfb> AurorasAura: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto
[17:59] <leftyfb> AurorasAura: first result on google for "ubuntu cron"
[17:59] <AurorasAura> There is a reconnect option and its on but if if fails too many times I have to issue the connect command
[18:00] <elichai2> new problem :), not all my keys in the keyboard work in the terminal, but it works fine in applications like firefox and chrome
[18:00] <elichai2> (and in the kde launcher)
[18:00] <AurorasAura> Thank you leftyfb ... I was just checking if cron was the only way.
[18:00] <AurorasAura> Your awesome!'
[18:00] <leftyfb> it's not the only way
[18:01] <leftyfb> just probably the easiest
[18:01] <AurorasAura> I looked at that before but I have no idea. I will read up. Thanks again leftyfb :)
[18:02] <elichai2> weird thing, if I close the terminal(that was open since startup) and reopen it its fixing it but the kde launcher is still the same, any ideas why this is hapenning?
[18:05] <AurorasAura> See... Im just stupid or something.... I just want to issue the "expressvpn connect smart" Every day but reading this is difficult.
[18:07] <AurorasAura> it would be easier if I knew more English lol. I will wait for my boyfriend haha
[18:09] <AndrewD> when i run apt-get update
[18:10] <AndrewD> i feel like packages are not being added
[18:10] <AndrewD> i ran curl https://packages.microsoft.com/config/ubuntu/16.04/prod.list > /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mssql-release.list
[18:10] <leftyfb> AurorasAura: if it's dying, you might want to look into creating a systemd unit for it which will restart it whenever it dies. A cron job might not be the best solution
[18:10] <AndrewD> does anyone know any way to troubleshoot this?
[18:10] <AndrewD> I have been trying to install sqlsrv to connect an mssql database
[18:10] <leftyfb> AndrewD: your curl command is going to need to be run as root, not sudo and not as a normal user
[18:11] <AndrewD> ok i will give that a try thank you
[18:11] <AurorasAura> That would be awesome leftyfb . But That is way out of my league
[18:11] <leftyfb> AurorasAura: not really
[18:11] <AndrewD> wait... I am logged in as root
[18:12] <AndrewD> i tried that again and when i run apt-get update i see the package... however when i try to install i still get Unable to locate package msodbcsql
[18:13] <leftyfb> AurorasAura: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/26496445/
[18:13] <leftyfb> AurorasAura: you can try copying that to something like /etc/systemd/system/expressvpn.service
[18:13] <leftyfb> AurorasAura: then run sudo systemctl enable expressvpn
[18:14] <elichai2> someone? only some of my keys work with apps that launch automatically, but when I restart the app it works fine (I restart kde and the terminal), any ideas?
[18:14] <AurorasAura> Thank you so much! I just need to find path to expressvpn
[18:14] <leftyfb> AurorasAura: depending on the client, you might need to run it as your user... in which case under the [Service] section, put User=<youruser>
[18:14] <leftyfb> AurorasAura: type: which expressvpn
[18:15] <AurorasAura> THAT IS AWESOME
[18:15] <leftyfb> elichai2: to help troubleshoot, try a different terminal emulator like terminator
[18:15] <AurorasAura> ty ty ty
[18:15] <leftyfb> AurorasAura: have you confirmed it's working that quick?
[18:16] <leftyfb> AurorasAura: I wouldn't say it's awesome till you know it works
[18:16] <AurorasAura> No... The "which" thing is awesome
[18:16] <leftyfb> oh, right
[18:17] <elichai2>  leftyfb it's even on the kde launcher
[18:20] <AurorasAura> Well my boyfriend is like a groorew about computers but I want to prove women can be nerd too!
[18:20] <leftyfb> elichai2: to be hones, I'm not too familiar with KDE. Not sure if your issue is specific to that DE
[18:20] <elichai2> doesn't sound like kde specific because it affects the whole system
[18:21] <elichai2> (every app that autorun with it)
[18:22] <leftyfb> AurorasAura: the fact that you're here and even knew about cron means you get some of the basics and shouldn't have any problem learning the rest if it interests you
[18:23] <leftyfb> elichai2: check your straight terminal (CTRL+ALT+F2)
[18:25] <nacc_> yates: hopefully you've answered your own question, but of course nont
[18:25] <nacc_> yates: the point is the ABI you are compiling for, not the arch target
[18:25] <elichai2> leftyfb: in the ctrl+alt+f2 there are no problems
[18:25] <nacc_> yates: tbh, if you didn't know that, then I don't think you should be building from source :)
[18:25] <leftyfb> elichai2: ok, so it's not hardware nor kernel/driver level
[18:26] <zomaar> Still curious that there is no native word for "geek" or "nerd" in my language
[18:26] <swein> swahili?
[18:26] <zomaar> C
[18:26] <zomaar> jk, Dutch
[18:27] <leftyfb> zomaar: are the Dutch just all jocks instead? ;)
[18:27] <swein> nerd = nerd :)
[18:27] <elichai2> leftyfb: so what else I can debug?
[18:28] <leftyfb> elichai2: I still feel it's a KDE issue since we proved it's not system
[18:28] <swein> zomaar: straatariest?
[18:29] <swein> or suet
[18:29] <swein> seut
[18:34] <Ghost91i> I think i got a mem leak
[18:34] <elichai2> leftyfb: can't it be related to readline somehow?
[18:34] <Ghost91i> I was tryna shutdown and it just …FR…
[18:34] <Ghost91i> froze
[18:35] <leftyfb> elichai2: nope, since it's not an issue when you're at a normal tty
[18:36] <swein> why is ubuntu going back to xorg. seems so flippy floppy
[18:37] <nacc_> swein: #ubuntu+1 for such discussion
[18:37] <Bashing-om> swein: My opinion. wayland not quite ready for prime time .
[18:41] <leftyfb> I'd agree
[18:43] <elichai2> leftyfb: ok, If I use the "bad" terminal to open something like kate all the keys works just fine
[18:43] <zomaar> because LTS release and sane behaviour
[18:51] <Bullhill> Hello, I'am running Ubuntu 16.10 (yakkety) and want to upgrade to 17.04 or 17.10. Is that possibile?
[18:52] <Bashing-om> !eol | Bullhill
[18:52] <Bullhill> Ty Bashing-om :D
[18:53] <Bashing-om> Bullhill: Be aware that 17.04 is also End_Of_life .
[18:53] <Bullhill> Oki. than i take 17.10 :)
[18:53] <Bashing-om> Bullhill: Yepper .. hard road to get to 17.10 .
[18:57] <AndrewD> I am really struggling to understand why I keep getting this error Unable to locate package mssql-tools
[18:58] <kostkon> AndrewD, which release are you on
[18:58] <AndrewD> 16.04.3
[18:58] <kostkon> !info mssql-tools xenial
[18:58] <kostkon> AndrewD, it does not exist, apparently
[18:59] <jimb_> AndrewD, there is a `mysql-mmm-tools`, not sure if it's what you are looking for
[18:59] <AndrewD> nope
[18:59] <akik> kostkon: it's from microsoft's repository (3rd party)
[18:59] <AndrewD> looking to connect to a mssql server
[18:59] <kostkon> akik, that makes sense
[18:59] <AndrewD> i have a dev machine with 16.04.2
[18:59] <AndrewD> and it worked there
[19:00] <AndrewD> do i need to downgrade from 16.04.3 to 16.04.2 to make this work?
[19:00] <akik> AndrewD: there's usually no support here for 3rd party ppas
[19:00] <AndrewD> gotcha
[19:01] <AndrewD> do you know what direction I should go in to get this working?
[19:01] <akik> AndrewD: you could run apt-cache policy mssql-tools to see what the system knows
[19:01] <AndrewD> i tried with microsoft to no avail
[19:01] <akik> AndrewD: did you run apt-get update after adding the ppa?
[19:01] <AndrewD> yes..
[19:01] <AndrewD> its been 4 hours now
[19:01] <AndrewD> lol
[19:01] <akik> AndrewD: you could run apt-cache policy mssql-tools to see what the system knows
[19:01] <AndrewD> trying to understand why this doesnt work
[19:02] <AndrewD> Unable to locate package mssql-tools
[19:02] <kostkon> AndrewD, double check that you have added the repo and that it's enabled
[19:02] <AndrewD> curl https://packages.microsoft.com/keys/microsoft.asc | apt-key add -
[19:02] <AndrewD> curl https://packages.microsoft.com/config/ubuntu/16.04/prod.list > /etc/apt/sources.list.d/msprod.list
[19:02] <AndrewD> that is what you mean right?
[19:03] <kostkon> AndrewD, yes
[19:03] <AndrewD> yes i ran this as per installation instructions i find everywhere
[19:03] <kostkon> AndrewD, does   cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/msprod.list  give you anything
[19:03] <AndrewD> what is yes I see a key or something
[19:04] <akik> AndrewD: i just added that ppa on 16.04.3 and mssql-tools shows up
[19:04] <AndrewD> ok so there is something wrong with my setup i guess
[19:04] <nacc_> AndrewD: msprod.list should nont contain a key
[19:04] <AndrewD> I am not sure what I am doing work
[19:04] <AndrewD>  deb [arch=amd64] https://packages.microsoft.com/ubuntu/16.04/prod xenial main
[19:04] <nacc_> AndrewD: pastebin the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list.d/msprod.list
[19:04] <AndrewD> wrong*
[19:04] <nacc_> AndrewD: yes that's fine
[19:05] <nacc_> AndrewD: `sudo apt-get update` in a pastebin
[19:05] <AndrewD> ok
[19:05] <nacc_> AndrewD: and `apt-cache policy mssql-tools`
[19:05] <AndrewD> one sec
[19:05] <AndrewD> https://pastebin.com/3XeKapLz
[19:06] <AndrewD> apt-cache policy mssql-tools N: Unable to locate package mssql-tools
[19:06] <nacc_> Adbray: it may not like you've listed the repository twice (apparently once in mssql.list and once in msprod.list)
[19:06] <nacc_> AndrewD: rather
[19:06] <nacc_> AndrewD: however, that is just a warning
[19:07] <AndrewD> should i remove one?
[19:07] <kostkon> AndrewD, contents of the other file? cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mssql-release.list
[19:08] <AndrewD> deb [arch=amd64] https://packages.microsoft.com/ubuntu/16.04/prod xenial main
[19:08] <nacc_> that's not what apt-get update said
[19:08] <nacc_> it said mssql-server
[19:08] <kostkon> how many similar files are there
[19:09] <AndrewD> https://pastebin.com/2D1jZTYz
[19:09] <kostkon> AndrewD, ls -la /etc/apt/sources.list.d   or just remove all (ms ones) but one
[19:09] <AndrewD> ok I should rm all the ms ones and then curl them again ya?
[19:10] <kostkon> AndrewD, that's an even better approach yes
[19:10] <AndrewD> ok on it...
[19:11] <AndrewD> https://pastebin.com/EgXxrN9Y
[19:11] <AndrewD> same situation
[19:12] <kostkon> AndrewD, did you run  apt-get update
[19:12] <kostkon> you did
[19:14] <AndrewD> yes
[19:14] <AndrewD> is there some other reason why a package would be unable to be located?
[19:14] <AndrewD> I am not sure what to troubleshoot
[19:14] <AndrewD> this worked on my dev machine
[19:15] <kostkon> AndrewD, a wild guess: it isn't supposed to exist in that repo in the first place
[19:15] <AndrewD> huh
[19:16] <akik> AndrewD: did you fix the repository config problem? maybe it's the reason?
[19:17] <AndrewD> i have no idea what that means
[19:17] <AndrewD> how do i fix that
[19:17] <akik> AndrewD: these lines: W: Target Packages (main/binary-amd64/Packages) is configured multiple times in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/msprod.list:1 and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mssql-release.list:1
[19:18] <AndrewD> i removed the duplicates
[19:19] <kostkon> AndrewD, uname -i?   probably a silly request
[19:19] <AndrewD> 1686
[19:19] <AndrewD> what does that mean
[19:20] <gordonjcp> i686
[19:20] <akik> nice catch
[19:20] <kostkon> AndrewD, it means that it wasn't silly afterall
[19:20] <AndrewD> sorry yes i
[19:20] <gordonjcp> it's the type of processor your kernel is compiled for ;-)
[19:20] <kostkon> AndrewD, the full shebang?  uname -a
[19:20] <AndrewD> Linux mojo 3.13.0-57-generic #95-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jun 19 09:27:48 UTC 2015 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux
[19:21] <kostkon> AndrewD, right
[19:21] <AndrewD> so i need a 64bit processor
[19:21] <AndrewD> i gotta go bark at digital ocean then
[19:21] <kostkon> AndrewD, more like a 64bit installation
[19:21] <AndrewD> got it
[19:21] <AndrewD> i thought i had a 64 bit
[19:21] <AndrewD> thanks so much guys
[19:21] <kostkon> AndrewD, np
[19:21] <AndrewD> I will try to switch my droplet
[19:22] <AndrewD> I would buy you guys a beer if i could find you... you have no idea how much this whole thing has stressed me
[19:22] <jimb_> kostkon, you sleuth
[19:24] <kostkon> jimb_, ;)
[19:24] <CoderEurope> How do I install Unity 7 again ?
[19:30] <brainwash> CoderEurope: sudo apt install unity
[19:36] <nicomachus> no
[19:37] <NuttyNutterson> If I have a dual boot grub with linux and Windows 10 on it, can I install Windows 7 over the Windows 10 partition and have the grub launcher be fine?
[19:37] <nicomachus> NuttyNutterson: Windows will usually bork it, but I don't remember the fix exactly
[19:50] <boz> hallo
[19:50] <boz> kann jemandem deutsch reden
[19:50] <oerheks> !de
[19:51] <Guest22383> ok danke
[19:51] <swein> nein problem frualine
[19:51] <dbrass> Anyone know if "°"(the degree symbol) is a restricted character for filenames? it seems that Caja can't handle renaming a file with that character in the name. I'm running Ubuntu mate 16.04.3. Caja just crash when I rename the file.
[19:53] <mutante> dbrass: if it's supposed to be a portable filename, yes.  http://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/basedefs/V1_chap03.html#tag_03_282
[19:54] <mutante> dbrass: that said, i can "touch °" on my Debian system just fine
[19:54] <xdedaos> I have a veracrypt partition on my main drive and I want to install ubuntu on a different drive. When I went to install ubuntu I got a warning about UEFI vs BIOS boot, what should I do?
[19:55] <mutante> dbrass: no matter what, the "just crash" part makes it a bug in Caja that could be reported, i would say
[19:55] <dbrass> mutante, What do you mean by "portable filesystem"?
[19:56] <dbrass> mutante, I get this error in my home folder on an ext4 partition
[19:56] <mutante> dbrass: it means that it would work on all OSes that are following the POSIX standard   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/POSIX#POSIX-certified
[19:57] <mutante> dbrass: i also use ext4, that part should not be the limiting factor
[19:57] <dbrass> mutante, I'll file a bug then
[19:57] <mutante> dbrass: yea, i think that's right
[19:57] <dbrass> mutante, for now I simply did not use the symbol
[19:58] <dbrass> mutante, worst case, it'll be closed
[19:58] <dbrass> mutante, Thanks :)
[19:58] <mutante> dbrass: yea, i agree. just see what Caja says.  yw!
[19:59] <elichai2> is it a good idea to upgrade 17.04 to 17.10 *from chroot*?
[19:59] <elichai2> (I have a lot of problems and I hope this might fix some of them)
[20:01] <elichai2> *I mean 16.04
[20:08] <MrTopCat> surely it's better to stay on lts?
[20:09] <MrTopCat> i can't imagine the more unstable releases fixing a lot of things
[20:09] <dbrass> elichai2, I downgraded to 16.04 due to too many problems in 17.10
[20:09] <MrTopCat> probs more likely to introduce more issues and bugs
[20:13] <Doow> If it's an option I'd recommend waiting for 18.04.
[20:17] <otherRick> Hi, I need assign a device link to a event input device in order to identify my virtual input; someone can give me a suggest?
[20:17] <nicomachus> and if it's a kernel issue, you can always install the HWE kernel to get newer versions
[20:20] <mijk> how can I launch an X11 application using SSH. Not X11 forwarding, I want to launch an X11 application on the machine I'm remoting into
[20:21] <kenrin> remote in,  set the display var?
[20:21] <akik> mijk: x2go is one solution
[20:21] <lordcirth_work> mijk, something like 'DISPLAY=":0" firefox' might work?
[20:23] <mijk> oh? If I know that X11 is running on :O it should start?
[20:23] <mijk> akik: x2go sounds familiar
[20:24] <akik> mijk: it's fast, secure and has session support
[20:25] <akik> mijk: although, you need to use a 3rd party ppa
[20:26] <mijk> thanks, I'll give it a shot
[20:27] <akik> mijk: a down side is that it doesn't support desktop environments that require hw acceleration
[20:27] <mijk> ugh
[20:27] <nicomachus> akik: that eliminates both unity and gnome, doesn't it?
[20:27] <ioria> wondering what's the problem with XForwarding ...
[20:27] <akik> i.e. unity/gnome 3/plasma 5 don't work good
[20:28] <akik> mate desktop, plasma 4 are ok
[20:28] <jmzc> \join #network
[20:36] <otherRick> Someone knows if the kernel can be create symblinks to the event input device (without udev rules)?
[20:38] <cristian_c> otherRick: why without udev rules?
[20:39] <otherRick> The 60-persistan-input.rules create symblinks to the event inputs in the /dev/by-id/!@
[20:41] <otherRick> but I need that the module self create the symblink to the event input device.
[20:44] <otherRick> udev can be resolve my problem because the driver module used two event inputs for emit different events, for udev both devices are the same have the same vendor/ product only can be difference by the minor value concatenate to the name of the event device
[20:45] <cristian_c> otherRick: /dev/input/by-id/devicename is already a symlink to /dev/input/event#
[20:46] <otherRick> yeah but was replaced by the last event input device registered
[20:47] <cristian_c> otherRick: for example: two identical mice?
[20:47] <johnnyfive> Howdy. I'm trying to understand what this file is: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/n/ncurses/ncurses_6.0+20171125.orig.tar.gz is this considered the latest version of ncurses? and if so, why is it a tar.gz instead of a deb?
[20:47] <otherRick> the module driver works emits all event but using udev I cann't determine who is who
[20:48] <cristian_c> otherRick: maybe, udev has a parameter for filtering that
[20:49] <nacc_> johnnyfive: that is the orig tarball for the source package
[20:49] <otherRick> I used udevadm monitor --property
[20:49] <nacc_> johnnyfive: it is the upstream tarball, possibly modified to meet dfsg that is the basis for the source package in Debian/Ubuntu
[20:50] <johnnyfive> nacc_, ahh I see, thanks.
[20:50] <otherRick> The both devices have the same information only the DEVPATH is different.
[20:52] <otherRick> are /sys/usb/.../keypad/input22 and /sys/usb/../touch/input23
[20:52] <johnnyfive> nacc_, is this pre-patched or is there some manipulation to this source before being converted into debs? Or some other step between?
[20:53] <akik> otherRick: the udevadm command can also show you the serial number
[20:53] <nacc_> johnnyfive: hrm?
[20:53] <johnnyfive> you said "possibly modified". Just trying to understand if that modification exists in the tar.gz or in between tar -> deb
[20:54] <nacc_> johnnyfive: it depends on the particular upstream tarball
[20:54] <nacc_> johnnyfive: and the source package
[20:54] <nacc_> johnnyfive: are you still doing your massive archive rebuild?
[20:54] <johnnyfive> well not "trying". We have it all working
[20:54] <johnnyfive> oh, you didn't say trying
[20:54] <nacc_> johnnyfive: i did not, no
[20:54] <johnnyfive> but ya,
[20:55] <nacc_> johnnyfive: well, you probably want a different channel anyways, this isn't a support topic -- perhaps #ubuntu-packaging or so
[20:55] <johnnyfive> yea you answered my question, thanks
[20:58] <johnnyfive> nacc_, Thank you for all your responses btw. If you were curious I can msg you with the site that explains what we're doing, along with a demo.
[20:58] <nacc_> johnnyfive: yw; i'm a bit otherwise busy right now :)
[20:59] <johnnyfive> yep. cheers
[21:00] <ImageJPEG> So I just setup phpMyAdmin with nginx on a Ubuntu lxc container (running on Proxmox). I downloaded the zip file and installed it that way. Yes, I know I could download it from the repos but I'd rather have more control over the setup process. Anyway, I'm able to log in but there are no images/icons and the text is overlaying itself.
[21:01] <nacc_> ImageJPEG: you woulld ened to ask upstream phpmyadmin then
[21:01] <nacc_> ImageJPEG: since you are nont using an ubuntu package
[21:01] <ImageJPEG> I can try but there's only 39 users on that channel...
[21:02] <mutante> "more control over the setup process" what do you mean by that
[21:02] <nacc_> ImageJPEG: not exactly our issue that they don't have an active IRC channell
[21:02] <mutante> because you can certainly change everything and this way you just get a system that is less "clean"
[21:02] <mutante> and you cant properly remove it again
[21:02] <nacc_> mutante: i was choosing to not engage on that part :)
[21:03] <mutante> well, the whole support thing is another reason not to, as we just saw
[21:03] <nacc_> mutante: yeah :)
[21:03] <nacc_> mutante: i'm not in any way disagreeing with you
[21:27] <melo> hi all
[21:33] <JPSman> While iotop shows me a list of processes that are using my disk drive, is there a program to show a list of processes that are using the internet?
[21:33] <navonod> REl0rd
[21:35] <nicomachus> !info netstat | JPSman
[21:35] <nicomachus> uhhhh
[21:35] <memphisto> ss
[21:35] <memphisto> is the repalcement
[21:35] <nicomachus> JPSman: ignore ubottu he's a stupid bot. netstat works just fine.
[21:35] <memphisto> but maybe ntop is what he is looking for
[21:36] <kostkon> !info ss
[21:36] <kenrin> works fine if you have net-tools insstalled...
[21:37] <nicomachus> !info ntop
[21:37] <nicomachus> dax: is ubottu dumb or am I?
[21:38] <kenrin> Those are binarys,  not packages...
[21:38] <nicomachus> oh. so I am. ok. sounds typical.
[21:38] <memphisto> justnetstat -tuneape
[21:38] <memphisto> sorry
[21:39] <memphisto> just run nestat -tuneape and check the last columt
[21:39] <kenrin> nicomachus: the correct package is iproute2 just fyi
[21:53] <aduck> Hello. I see that Zesty support ends in january 2018. Is that why I can't find the package archives in local mirrors? If so, to where can I point my apt sources?
[21:53] <nacc_> aduck: ended already, yes
[21:53] <nacc_> !eol | aduck
[21:57] <aduck> ah, there's an old-releases site. nice, nice. The upgrade will wait until this weekend. :)
[21:57] <aduck> thank you.
[21:57] <nacc_> aduck: i would highly suggest you update sooner than that
[21:57] <nacc_> aduck: just fwiw, you've not got security updates for a few weeks, includinng for spectre/meltdown
[21:58] <TJ-> aduck: You can "do-release-upgrade" without needing to put old-releases in sources.list nowadays
[22:01] <kostkon> aduck, and this is a serious vulnerability https://usn.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-3552-1/  i hope you are not using firefox
[22:01] <Howie69> Umm.... Anyone else having a problem with the gatech apt mirror?
[22:01] <Howie69> N: Updating from such a repository can't be done securely, and is therefore disabled by default.
[22:02] <aduck> thank you. I'll consider doing it sooner.
[22:02] <aduck> as in, I'm going to do it tonight.
[22:02] <aduck> :)
[22:03] <nacc_> Howie69: what version of ubuntu?
[22:03] <kostkon> aduck, good call. just that one is pretty serious
[22:03] <aduck> so, time to make a disk image and data backups. later. thank you.
[22:03] <Howie69> nacc_: Let's see...
[22:03] <Howie69> nacc_: I'm using artful
[22:03] <nacc_> Howie69: ok
[22:04] <nacc_> Howie69: i think you'd need to contact the mirror admin
[22:04] <nacc_> i forget, there might also be a mirrors status page
[22:06] <Howie69> nacc_: It's annoying... I can apt search, but not install
[22:07] <Howie69> I wonder if my old professor is still runnning the mirrors up there...
[22:09] <Howie69> isn't there an apt switch to allow insecure repos?  Without reconfigiring all of apt?
[22:16] <TJ-> Howie69: are you sure you're not behind some HTTP proxy? The Release/InRelease files on that mirror look to be correct
[22:16] <Howie69> TJ-: I haven't changed mirrors.  It's been working for months
[22:17] <TJ-> Howie69: I mean a proxy in bewteen you and the mirror, like ISP/Wifi hotspot transparent proxy
[22:18] <Howie69> TJ-: Nope, my network topography hasn't changed either
[22:18] <Howie69> Just the kids' linux box wifi to my router
[22:19] <Howie69> It says it hit the mirror, and reads the packages, but then gives that error
[22:19] <TJ-> Howie69: I've just fetched the InRelease and checked it's signature, and it's OK.
[22:20] <TJ-> Howie69: try this: "cd /tmp;  wget http://www.gtlib.gatech.edu/pub/ubuntu/ubuntu/dists/artful-updates/InRelease ; apt-key adv --verify /tmp/InRelease "
[22:20] <Howie69> TJ-: As a matter of fact, it did an update yesterday.  This is my first apt attempt since.  Maybe the update broke something
[22:22] <Howie69> TJ-: I assume there is some room rule about pasting... which pastebin site works these days?  It's been a while for me
[22:22] <kostkon> !paste
[22:23] <TJ-> Howie69: usually pastebin.ubuntu.com ... however, as long as you get "gpg: Signature made Wed 31 Jan 2018 11:49:09 GMT using RSA key ID C0B21F32" "gpg: Good signature from "Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key (2012) <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>"" it's good
[22:24] <Howie69> https://pastebin.com/G04aw1wS
[22:24] <gambl0re> hi #ubuntu, my wifi connection drops from time to time
[22:24] <gambl0re> any ideas what could be the problem
[22:24] <gambl0re> hi #ubuntu, my wifi connection drops from time to time
[22:24] <gambl0re> any ideas what could be the problem
[22:24] <Howie69> TJ-: I was unaware o the ubuntu pastebin, thanks, I'll use that next time
[22:24] <Howie69> gambl0re: Router
[22:24] <Howie69> gambl0re: Probably some TCP timeout setting
[22:25] <gambl0re> my phone is fine
[22:26] <TJ-> Howie69: so that's fine, let's assume the local PC lists are corrupted. "sudo find /var/lib/apt/lists -type f -delete"  then re-fetch using "sudo apt update" and try again
[22:28] <Exterminador> perhaps here isn't the place. but is there any way to get rid of Firefox quantum and install the regular one via command line keeping my current preferences?
[22:29] <lordcirth_> Exterminador, why do you want to roll back?  56 won't be supported forever
[22:29] <kostkon> Exterminador, firefox 58 is the regural one. the one you are looking for is firefox esr which currently is at version 52 if im correct
[22:29] <gambl0re> hi #ubuntu, my wifi connection drops from time to time
[22:29] <kenrin> Better off just installing firefox-esr
[22:29] <gambl0re> anyone know what could be the problem? thanks
[22:30] <Exterminador> so, Firefox ESR will go away eventually?
[22:30] <kenrin> Yes
[22:30] <kostkon> Exterminador, no, it will actually jump on to a newer version at some point
[22:31] <Exterminador> kostkon, so, it's possible to do what I'm pretending to do? k didn't find any good tutorials tho
[22:31] <argusbr> awk '{' print $0":3128" '}' tudo > ir  "what is problem in comand"
[22:31] <kenrin> Well,  it'll jump to firefox 60 soon
[22:31] <kenrin> So the ESR will be quantum too
[22:32] <Exterminador> Quantum problem is the lack of support for some plugins
[22:32] <Exterminador> but meh
[22:32] <Howie69> TJ-: Hrm.. same error
[22:32] <Exterminador> I can live with it
[22:32] <kostkon> Exterminador, esr isn't in the repos so you'll have to use some other 3rd party repo or download it from mozilla
[22:33] <TJ-> Howie69: really? can you pastebin the apt update output ?
[22:33] <Howie69> I'm looking for whatever adds flash support to chromium
[22:33] <kenrin> There is plenty of other browsers based on firefox that aren't quantum
[22:34] <koolkalang> Hi all, can I configure gdm3 so that I can choose the session, but not have to type in a password?
[22:35] <Howie69> TJ-: https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/26497547/
[22:35] <TJ-> Howie69: the problem isn't with gatech, the messages show that, it's some PPA you've addded!
[22:36] <tomreyn> !info pepperflashplugin-nonfree
[22:37] <tomreyn> whoops
[22:37] <kostkon> tomreyn, i think it wasn't needed anymore
[22:37] <tomreyn> oh ok
[22:37] <Howie69> That ppa didn't upgrade to arftful from 17.04 correctly
[22:37] <TJ-> Howie69: right, so you need to remove it
[22:37] <Howie69> but that shouldn't keep the rest of apt from working
[22:38] <Howie69> that takes effort
[22:38] <TJ-> Howie69: so what other errors are you getting when trying to install ?
[22:38] <nacc_> Howie69: it doesn't?
[22:38] <nacc_> Howie69: it doesn't keep apt from working, i mean
[22:38] <nacc_> Howie69: you got an error from your buggy repo, with two notices on the error.
[22:40] <Howie69> TJ-: I see error in my apt request when I pasted in pastebin
[22:40] <Howie69> stupid PuTty l and 1 look the same
[22:40] <Howie69> The font in chrome made it distinguishable
[22:40] <nacc_> Howie69: yes, you got an error, as TJ- said, for the one repo
[22:41] <Howie69> Or I need glasses....
[22:41] <JoeLlama> I've installed xubuntu 16.04 and it doesn't see the wifi card. How do I view the device map so I can see all devices that are recognized on the system?
[22:41] <Howie69> flashplugin-nonfree btw
[22:42] <kostkon> !info inxi xenia | JoeLlama, lspci and lsusb? or install this utility
[22:43] <kostkon> oh no..
[22:43] <TJ-> JoeLlama: start with "lspci -nnk -d::280" and see if the device is listed
[22:43] <JoeLlama> thanks Kosha :)
[22:43] <kostkon> !info inxi xenial | JoeLlama, lspci and lsusb? or install this utility
[22:43] <kostkon> better
[22:43] <JoeLlama> neat :)
[22:44] <TJ-> JoeLlama: do you see a line "Kernel driver in use:" ?
[22:45] <JoeLlama> working on other stuff atm but I will get to this in a little while (:
[22:50] <JoeLlama> TJ- yes it sees the wifi card
[22:51] <TJ-> JoeLlama: and it shows a driver in use? which driver is in use?
[22:51] <JoeLlama> yup lemme get that
[22:51] <JoeLlama> b43-pci-bridge
[22:52] <JoeLlama> doesn't it normally say that wifi connections are available?
[22:52] <JoeLlama> that is what I am used to seeing
[22:52] <JoeLlama> TJ-
[22:53] <TJ-> JoeLlama: OK, let me check on that one
[22:53] <JoeLlama> oh ok thanks
[22:54] <JoeLlama> yes before it would just pop up and show available connections and now it doesn't... I'm looking for that list
[22:56] <TJ-> JoeLlama: which device is it? In that lspci output, on the right-side of the first line, it shows the [Vendor:Device] ID, can you tell us what is there?
[22:57] <JoeLlama> broadcom BCM4312 TJ-
[22:58] <JoeLlama> it worked when I installed the full current version of ubuntu
[22:58] <JoeLlama> worked nicely
[22:58] <gambl0re> hi #ubuntu, my wifi connection drops from time to time
[22:58] <gambl0re> anyone know what could be the problem? thanks
[22:58] <JoeLlama> then I wiped that and installed lubuntu and xubuntu next and neither of those works
[22:58] <TJ-> JoeLlama: which release is it, 16.04 ?
[22:58] <JoeLlama> yes
[22:59] <TJ-> JoeLlama: can you "pastebinit <( lspci -nnk -d ::280 )" for us ?
[23:00] <JoeLlama> well... ok hold on gotta get a flash drive
[23:01] <TJ-> JoeLlama: OK, don't worry, just give me the numbers inside the square brackets on the right side of the lspci output, something like [1234:5678]
[23:07] <JoeLlama> This will take a minute or two TJ- (learning curve)
[23:12] <JoeLlama> TJ- : https://pastebin.com/ifN4nQyu
[23:14] <JoeLlama> so let me understand this, when the system starts up it should automatically suggest available connections right?  if it doesn't something isn't working, is this correct?
[23:14] <TJ-> JoeLlama: According to modinfo the correct module that matches that alias [14e4:4315] is "ssb" - I'm assuming the b43-pci-bridge was installed by some 3rd party driver package you added, is that correct?
[23:15] <JoeLlama> no, I added nothing... it was a straight installed
[23:15] <JoeLlama> for both lubuntu and xubuntu
[23:16] <TJ-> JoeLlama: hmmm, because I can't find this b43-pci-bridge anywhere
[23:16] <JoeLlama> again, the question is, if it doesn't show that message suggesting available connections, something is wrong is that correct?
[23:16] <JoeLlama> hrm ok
[23:16] <BlackDalek> Anyone know why Gimp won't let me create a brush 4 pixels x 2 pixels?
[23:16] <JoeLlama> I see b43-pci-bridge online on google
[23:16] <TJ-> JoeLlama: not necessarily, there's a lot of config in the network side, but generally a visible AP should be listed by nm-applet
[23:17] <JoeLlama> oh ok
[23:17] <TJ-> JoeLlama: that's not much help! I'm looking at the 16.04 kernel modules and it doesn't exist for kernels 4.4* or 4.13*
[23:17] <JoeLlama> hrm..  is there a way to manually look at available connections... also I do see forums talking about this
[23:17] <JoeLlama> hrm o k
[23:17] <nacc> BlackDalek: probably better asked in a Gimp channel
[23:17] <JoeLlama> I will read forums
[23:18] <JoeLlama> but I'm still here open to suggestions
[23:18] <BlackDalek> nacc, I did. that channel is dead
[23:18] <TJ-> JoeLlama: right now the wrong kernel driver is in use as far as I can tell. Looks like something put in place by ndiswrapper
[23:18] <nacc> JoeLlama: did you enable 3rd party drivers or whatever (it's an option during the install, iirc)
[23:19] <JoeLlama> oh ok
[23:19] <JoeLlama> so um... what is the right one?
[23:19] <nacc> TJ-: should be able to run `modinfo`, iirc
[23:19] <nacc> JoeLlama: `modinfo b43-pci-bridge`
[23:19] <JoeLlama> ok I run modinfo
[23:19] <TJ-> nacc: right, but I'm trying to locate where it came from, apt-file search doesn't locate it
[23:20] <nacc> TJ-: right, modinfo should say
[23:21] <TJ-> It's part of b43 apparently, which suggests a 3rd party package
[23:21] <JoeLlama> nacc "not found"
[23:22] <nacc> TJ-: agreed
[23:22] <nacc> JoeLlama: what wasn't foud?
[23:22] <nacc> *found
[23:22] <JoeLlama> that module
[23:22] <TJ-> JoeLlama: as a workaround try this: "sudo modprobe -r b43-pci-bridge; sudo modprobe ssb"
[23:22] <JoeLlama> unless Ididn't type if right
[23:22] <JoeLlama> um.. ok TJ-
[23:23] <JoeLlama> TJ- FATAL not found
[23:23] <JoeLlama> hrm lemme make sure I am typing this in right
[23:24] <TJ-> JoeLlama: what does "uname -r" report?
[23:26] <JoeLlama> nope nope it all says "not found" for that
[23:26] <JoeLlama> oh uname hold on
[23:27] <JoeLlama> 4.10.0-28-generic
[23:27] <TJ-> JoeLlama: OK, so you've got the old Zesty HWE kernel there
[23:27] <JoeLlama> is that good? :)
[23:27] <JoeLlama> it's what came with the iso
[23:28] <TJ-> JoeLlama: It means we can be sure of what we are dealing with.
[23:28] <Howie69> Well, now, that takes care of the brat....
[23:28] <Howie69> Daughter is in trouble, lost PC privs... only allowed to use the computer for school
[23:29] <JoeLlama> still reading forums
[23:29] <Howie69> she's being a smarta** and decided to run chromium in incognito mode so I couldn't find out she was going to youtube and game sites
[23:29] <Howie69> So, I diabled incognito mode on her computer :)
[23:29] <TJ-> JoeLlama: I'm concerned that those 'modinfo' commands were not finding the kernel modules; that might suggest the currently running kernel's image package has been removed. what does this report? "find /lib/modules/$(uname -r) -type f -name '*.ko' | wc -l"   ... it should print a number which is the count of all kernel modules for the current kernel
[23:32] <TJ-> JoeLlama: the "wc -l" - that's a lower-case L
[23:33] <JoeLlama> TJ-  5053
[23:33] <TJ-> JoeLlama: which is a good number, about what I'd expect.
[23:33] <JoeLlama> oh um... ok
[23:33] <TJ-> JoeLlama: so, try this: "lsmod | grep b43-pci-bridge" - does it report anything or nothing?
[23:34] <JoeLlama> ok
[23:35] <JoeLlama> it did nothing TJ-
[23:35] <TJ-> JoeLlama: good, so it is unloaded from your earlier command. Now lets try to load the correct module: "sudo modprobe b43"
[23:36] <JoeLlama> umm k
[23:36] <TJ-> JoeLlama: if that works you'll see nothing, it'll just return to the shell prompt
[23:36] <JoeLlama> yes that is what happened
[23:37] <TJ-> JoeLlama: in which case then do "iwconfig" and see if a wireless interface is reported. If it is, tell us it's name.
[23:37] <JoeLlama> oops did the modprobe thing twice by accident
[23:37] <TJ-> JoeLlama: doesn't matter
[23:38] <TJ-> JoeLlama: if the module is already loaded it simply exits because there is nothing more to do
[23:38] <JoeLlama> oh ok
[23:38] <JoeLlama> so...
[23:40] <JoeLlama> are we kinda stuck now TJ-?
[23:40] <TJ-> JoeLlama: I was waiting for the wifi interface name
[23:40] <TJ-> JoeLlama: from: >>>>  in which case then do "iwconfig" and see if a wireless interface is reported. If it is, tell us it's name.
[23:40] <JoeLlama> oh?
[23:41] <JoeLlama> "no wireless extensions"
[23:41] <JoeLlama> for both enp4s0
[23:41] <JoeLlama> and lo
[23:41] <TJ-> JoeLlama: hmm, that's a pain! that module should work. I wonder if you're missing firmware
[23:42] <TJ-> JoeLlama: do "dmesg | tail -n 30 " and see if there are any kernel messages relating to b43 and/or firmware missing
[23:43] <JoeLlama> hrm... dunno TJ- but like I said, originally I installed the latest version of ubuntu 16.04 which was a little slow on this systerm and it did work nicely
[23:43] <TJ-> JoeLlama: at this point we'd expect an interface with a name beginning "wl" if the wireless I/F is created
[23:43] <JoeLlama> ok
[23:43] <Jordan_U> TJ-: Has JoeLlama already install the "firmware-b43-installer" package (while connected via ethernet to the internet)?
[23:43] <TJ-> Jordan_U: thanks, as far as I know this is a fresh Xubuntu install from ISO
[23:44] <TJ-> I stay well away from Broadcom usually due to their terrible driver experience/support
[23:44] <JoeLlama> ok so I am looking for something in all this informtation
[23:45] <Jordan_U> JoeLlama: TJ-: Broadcom's firmware isn't distributable so while you have the driver you don't have the firmware. To get the firmware, connect to the internet via ethernet then run "sudo apt install firmware-b43-installer". That package will download and extract the firmware you need.
[23:45] <JoeLlama> I see nothing relating to broadcom
[23:45] <TJ-> JoeLlama: well, we hope the 'b43' module reports it loaded ... and we wonder if it reports it cannot find a "firmware" file - it should complain about that
[23:46] <JoeLlama> hrm k
[23:46] <TJ-> JoeLlama: can you connect the wired link to your router in order to get to the Internet
[23:46] <JoeLlama> well the computer is not hooked up to any networks so...
[23:46] <JoeLlama> I download it to flash drive first?
[23:47] <JoeLlama> this is getting teeedious :)
[23:47] <TJ-> JoeLlama: you could, although it's easier to connect an ethernet cable!
[23:47] <JoeLlama> ya
[23:47] <JoeLlama> hrm...
[23:48] <JoeLlama> ok ok I think I'm just oging to takea break... thanks for all the help TJ-
[23:48] <TJ-> JoeLlama: when you installed the regular Ubuntu you must have had the PC connected via wired in order to install the correct firmware then, too, surely?
[23:48] <JoeLlama> nope
[23:48] <JoeLlama> I just used a flash drive
[23:48] <JoeLlama> iso > usbstick
[23:48] <TJ-> Jordan_U: any ideas how that'd have worked !?
[23:49] <JoeLlama> I'm thinking I'm going to just install ubuntu 16.04 again
[23:49] <JoeLlama> is it possible the wifi card went bad on me?
[23:50] <JoeLlama> and that is the reason why this is happening?  I can swap it out I have piles of them
[23:50] <JoeLlama> perhaps switch to an intel wifi card?
[23:50] <JoeLlama> wait lemme look at the card I might not have any in this form factor
[23:51] <TJ-> JoeLlama: As Jordan_U pointed out, Ubuntu cannot ship the Broadcom firmware, so it's unclear how the device was working. The installer ISOs are identical at the kernel and base system level too
[23:51] <ohffy> Hi Guys
[23:51] <JoeLlama> yes I just go get an intel wifi card then :)
[23:52] <ohffy> I installed ubuntu and then removed the parition and deleted it via windows however, the grub is still there and its messed up. How do I remove it? I now am unable to install any linux distro because of this problem. I thought I removed and deleted it but I guess I did not
[23:53] <TJ-> ohffy: GRUB boot-loader on the fixed disk won't interfer with a USB/DVD ISO installer booting, and once the installer is running it can replace the GRUB you've left behind
[23:54] <ohffy> Ok but everytime I try and install any distro, I get some sort of error
[23:54] <ohffy> With Ubuntu, the USB won't even read
[23:54] <ohffy> I know its not a defective USB
[23:54] <ohffy> Its new
[23:55] <ohffy> And it works with other distros fine in terms of creating a bootable image
[23:55] <JoeLlama> TJ- when I install the intel wifi card is there an easy way to detect it?
[23:55] <TJ-> ohffy: at what point won't the USb 'read' - when the motherboard is loading it? during boot of the installer? during installation to the fixed disk?
[23:55] <TJ-> JoeLlama: Linux kernel does  auto-detection
[23:56] <ohffy> With Ubuntu. It wont boot at startup when I restart the PC
[23:56] <ohffy> Even with boot priority set to USB
[23:56] <JoeLlama> sweet
[23:56] <TJ-> ohffy: that's either a problem in how the USB was written, or a bug in the PC firmware. Is it an UEFI-based PC?
[23:57] <ohffy> Yes
[23:57] <ohffy> Its an ASUS
[23:57] <TJ-> ohffy: there are some models where you have to go into the firmware setup at power-on time and specifically *TRUST* the boot-loader on the USB device!
[23:57] <ohffy> hmmm, I never had to do that the first time
[23:57] <TJ-> ohffy: it's quite ridiculous but we're seeing this quite a lot with Acer and Asus and some Lenovo
[23:58] <TJ-> ohffy: Iy may not affect you, but the symptoms you've described are spot-on what we see other users experience
[23:58] <ohffy> TJ-: you mean the booting image not detecting at startup?
[23:58] <pfriel> Has anybody seen issues with sssd causing your AWS c5 instance to freeze using either the 20180122 or 20180126 Ubuntu cloud images?  I have narrowed it down to sssd.. if I disable that the box works fine but once I start it the box hard locks and CPU goes to 100% on the instance.  No helpful logs in /var/log/kern.log, syslog, etc
[23:59] <pfriel> worth noting we don't see this behavior on anything other than c5 instance types..
[23:59] <ohffy> I'd put a dvd if I could, but the thing has no cd
[23:59] <nacc> pfriel: you might want to ask that in #ubuntu-server