| -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- New: accepted lubuntu-artwork [amd64] (bionic-proposed) [0.70] | 00:44 | |
| lubot1 | <VikingRedwolf> (Document) http://vps.tsimonq2.net//file_3685.mp4 | 01:11 |
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| lubot1 | <tsimonq2> The more I think about this, the more I think I like it: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-discuss/2018-February/017875.html | 01:11 |
| lubot1 | <VikingRedwolf> rolling release | 01:12 |
| lubot1 | <VikingRedwolf> kinda | 01:12 |
| lubot1 | <tsimonq2> Sorta but not really | 01:12 |
| lubot1 | <tsimonq2> See my response: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-discuss/2018-February/017877.html | 01:12 |
| lubot1 | <VikingRedwolf> odd release :D | 01:12 |
| lubot1 | <VikingRedwolf> *flavour | 01:12 |
| lubot1 | <VikingRedwolf> ._____. | 01:12 |
| lubot1 | <tsimonq2> *flavor | 01:12 |
| lubot1 | <tsimonq2> .____. | 01:12 |
| lubot1 | <MichaelTun> It's Ubuntu Flavours but it's ok branding called be spelled wrong if they want | 01:14 |
| lubot1 | <tsimonq2> meh not really | 01:14 |
| lubot1 | <tsimonq2> It's mismatched | 01:14 |
| lubot1 | <VikingRedwolf> 🇬🇧 | 01:14 |
| lubot1 | <VikingRedwolf> (Document) http://vps.tsimonq2.net//file_3686.mp4 | 01:15 |
| lubot1 | <VikingRedwolf> I honestly don't know what to think. For example, my Solus OS machine works very well, but at some point, Ikey will release a drastically different ISO. and there comes instability again. | 01:15 |
| lubot1 | <tsimonq2> I was the same way until I realized how wonderful this would actually be. | 01:16 |
| lubot1 | <tsimonq2> Think about it. | 01:16 |
| lubot1 | <VikingRedwolf> so this could actually work. like a hybrid release mode. | 01:16 |
| lubot1 | <tsimonq2> No more stale release with outdated versions of everything. | 01:16 |
| lubot1 | <VikingRedwolf> I dont't know | 01:16 |
| lubot1 | <tsimonq2> I can see it working. | 01:16 |
| lubot1 | <VikingRedwolf> looks like Solus XD | 01:16 |
| lubot1 | <tsimonq2> heh | 01:16 |
| lubot1 | <VikingRedwolf> debianites usually acused us of being "too cutting edge" regarding packages | 01:17 |
| lubot1 | <tsimonq2> hahahahahahahaha | 01:17 |
| lubot1 | <tsimonq2> well they're dinosaurs in that respect | 01:17 |
| lubot1 | <tsimonq2> So it can go both ways ;D | 01:17 |
| lubot1 | <VikingRedwolf> that's why :D | 01:17 |
| lubot1 | <VikingRedwolf> we're like the rebel teenagers LOL | 01:18 |
| lubot1 | <VikingRedwolf> wait... you're a rebel teenager! | 01:18 |
| lubot1 | <tsimonq2> XD | 01:18 |
| lubot1 | <VikingRedwolf> btw... HELLO MICHAEL!!! ❤️ | 01:18 |
| lubot1 | <carriewst> Gummy bears | 04:32 |
| lubot1 | <tsimonq2> @carriewst, O_o | 04:35 |
| lubot1 | <carriewst> Gummy chewy meat | 04:36 |
| lubot1 | <carriewst> (Document) http://vps.tsimonq2.net//file_3687.mp4 | 04:36 |
| lubot1 | <tsimonq2> Please don't. | 04:37 |
| lubot1 | <carriewst> Ok | 04:37 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [lubuntu-seeds] tsimonq2 pushed 2 new commits to bionic: https://git.io/vNd8a | 05:53 | |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- lubuntu-seeds/bionic a4bf77b Simon Quigley: Add theming to desktop-qt. | 05:53 | |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- lubuntu-seeds/bionic a832c33 Simon Quigley: Adjust for Lubuntu Next now having Plymouth packages. | 05:53 | |
| lubot1 | <tsimonq2> @julienlavergne ^^^^ | 05:57 |
| lubot | <Jacob Kim> can anyone tell me how Xorg works? I know that it is a display server but then I don't really get it | 13:29 |
| lubot | <Jacob Kim> does a separate computer somewhere in the world woking as a server run the GUI for you? | 13:29 |
| lubot | <VikingRedwolf> https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/250375/how-does-gui-in-unix-linux-actually-work | 13:29 |
| lubot | <VikingRedwolf> servers and clients are a behaviour class, they both can be in your machine, or outside. that's the power of Linux, having this kind of binary architecture | 13:30 |
| lubot | <VikingRedwolf> but server doesn't mean necessarily as "web server" | 13:31 |
| lubot | <Jacob Kim> thanks :D | 13:32 |
| lubot | <VikingRedwolf> yw | 13:32 |
| lubot | <Jacob Kim> what is wayland? i heard of it a lot when i was with fedora team, but i dont get the real differences between the two | 13:41 |
| lubot | <Jacob Kim> and why do people argue over them so much | 13:41 |
| lubot | <VikingRedwolf> an xorg "replacement" | 13:41 |
| lubot | <VikingRedwolf> everytime somebody replaces something it's somehow polemic | 13:41 |
| lubot | <chiefgyk> Xorg is archaic and kind of a security problem it’s outlived it’s usefulness. Ubuntu offered Mir and then there is also Wayland | 13:42 |
| lubot | <Jacob Kim> oh yeah so is mir dead then? | 13:43 |
| lubot | <VikingRedwolf> it's community maintained. Kinda dead though | 13:43 |
| lubot | <chiefgyk> Yeah like most of the things canonical starts when it comes to smaller projects, e.g. phone, Unity, and such | 13:43 |
| lubot | <Jacob Kim> i really liked Unity 8 tho | 13:44 |
| lubot | <VikingRedwolf> yes, like UbuntuOne, etc... | 13:44 |
| lubot | <Jacob Kim> the idea of a unified OS for all devices sounded awesome | 13:44 |
| lubot | <chiefgyk> I jumped from Ubuntu to Xubuntu and Lubuntu after Unity became the default UI | 13:44 |
| lubot | <VikingRedwolf> I liked Unity | 13:45 |
| lubot | <chiefgyk> If done right yes, I deplore iOS and Android. Can’t wait for the Librem 5 phone a Debian based Linux on phone and not a google bastardization | 13:45 |
| lubot | <VikingRedwolf> there's an official Unity flavour coming. maybe. | 13:45 |
| lubot | <Jacob Kim> i liked unity, WITH better theming ofc | 13:45 |
| lubot | <chiefgyk> I prefer XFCE and LXDE so much lighter and easier to understand for Linux noobs | 13:45 |
| lubot | <Jacob Kim> oh | 13:46 |
| lubot | <Jacob Kim> i actually had problems getting my way with lubuntu :P | 13:46 |
| lubot | <VikingRedwolf> it is, both desktops have a more "windows-ish" metaphor. panel with tasks and an app button. | 13:46 |
| lubot | <chiefgyk> I generally recommend Ubuntu Mate nowadays for noobs | 13:46 |
| lubot | <VikingRedwolf> but I like the ability of xfce to imitate CDE and other old desktops :) | 13:46 |
| lubot | <VikingRedwolf> I raised with RedHat. I love old stuff :) | 13:47 |
| lubot | <chiefgyk> Haven’t used Redhat in years mostly CentOS, Ubuntu (and derivatives), and Debian/raspbian. | 13:48 |
| lubot | <VikingRedwolf> a great distro | 13:48 |
| lubot | <chiefgyk> It is for stability and business use if you don’t mind licensing costs | 13:48 |
| lubot | <chiefgyk> I’ve been playing with OpenSUSE more and more lately | 13:49 |
| lubot | <VikingRedwolf> @chiefgyk, right | 13:49 |
| lubot | <VikingRedwolf> but that's why we make LTS | 13:49 |
| lubot | <VikingRedwolf> but of course, you don't have a company that supports your specific needs. just the most caring community. and that's a lot | 13:50 |
| lubot | <chiefgyk> Was turned onto OpenSUSE it after watching Bryan Lunduke’s show a year or so ago. OpenSUSE Tumbleweed is a great rolling release type distro if you prefer rolling release | 13:50 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> podcast.asknoahshow.com - he got a question about X/Wayland recently | 13:50 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> @VikingRedwolf, Although a financial backing wouldn't be out of the question :) | 13:51 |
| lubot | <chiefgyk> I just want a damn phone with true Linux not Android’s google bastardization. KDE and Gnome announced support for Librem 5 😍 | 13:51 |
| lubot | <Jacob Kim> @tsimonq2, 😆 | 13:52 |
| lubot | <chiefgyk> Would be great if LXDE could run on a touchscreen flawlessly then it would be amazing for mobility. I’m working on a pocket sized laptop with Lubuntu after my theft return (tax) allows me to get a 3D printer | 13:55 |
| lubot | <chiefgyk> Open sourcing all hardware I make of course 😉 | 13:56 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> @chiefgyk, That's probably going to need to be an LXQt goal. | 13:56 |
| lubot | <Jacob Kim> hmm touch UI is hard to implement on a DE like LXDE | 13:56 |
| lubot | <chiefgyk> Definitely but my pocket laptop is geared for small touchpad and mini keyboard. | 13:57 |
| lubot | <chiefgyk> Gnome, while heavy, has a great touch UI comparatively | 13:57 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> @Jacob Kim, I think it could be easier on LXQt | 13:59 |
| lubot | <Jacob Kim> @tsimonq2, right, given that KDE mobile is a thing | 14:00 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> @Jacob Kim, Yea | 14:01 |
| lubot | <chiefgyk> KDE seems really heavy for mobility unless they trimmed a lot | 14:01 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> Not really, KDE has gotten much lighter lately, as @MichaelTun can attest :P | 14:03 |
| lubot | <chiefgyk> Oh? I’ll have to tinker with it as it is pretty | 14:04 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> OK :) | 14:04 |
| lubot | <MichaelTun> @chiefgyk, Plasma is not heavy at all. That's a myth. | 14:44 |
| lubot | However they constantly improve the performance. In fact 5.12 which is soon to be released is focused specifically on performance | 14:44 |
| lubot | <Jacob Kim> here we go again 😆 | 14:45 |
| lubot | <MichaelTun> @Jacob Kim, ? | 14:59 |
| lubot | <Jacob Kim> nah just had buggy Kubuntu stuff | 15:00 |
| lubot | <MichaelTun> A distro having issues doesn't mean that the DE itself is the cause of the issues. | 15:02 |
| lubot | All distros implement their DE in a unique way somehow | 15:02 |
| lubot | <MikolajczakMarcin> is openSUSE the best distro for KDE in terms of stability and performance? | 15:09 |
| lubot | <Jacob Kim> @MikolajczakMarcin, I'd say so... | 15:09 |
| lubot | <Jacob Kim> although i never tried kde neon | 15:09 |
| lubot | <MichaelTun> @MikolajczakMarcin, Not really. Neon is Ubuntu LTS based so stability is solid and because they roll the KDE stack the performance gets improvements often. | 15:15 |
| lubot | <MichaelTun> openSUSE is known for being a Plasma distro but it's not. Their default was switched to GNOME years ago and most of their devs are GNOME users now. | 15:16 |
| lubot | <brli7848> If you're capable of dealing with cli installing, Arch provides the most vanilla Plasma packages out there | 18:55 |
| lubot | <brli7848> Give Chakralinux a try if you prefer some theming and tweaked kde with gui installer | 18:57 |
| lubot | <MikolajczakMarcin> I typically use Arch, but I see almost no differences between Arch+kde and kde neon/kubuntu :D | 19:00 |
| agaida | m4sk1n: arch has the higher geek rating - whatever that means | 19:14 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [lubuntu-manual] m4sk1n pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vNFA1 | 20:31 | |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- lubuntu-manual/master 16c8cb7 Marcin Mikołajczak: minor fix in Polish translation | 20:31 | |
| lubot | <MikolajczakMarcin> agaida: I’m using arch because it’s the stablest distro basing on my experience… | 20:43 |
| lubot | <MichaelTun> @MikolajczakMarcin, there are tons of differences | 20:51 |
| lubot | <MichaelTun> @MikolajczakMarcin, arch + stable is pretty much a contradiction | 20:51 |
| lubot | <MichaelTun> @brli7848, Neon is vanilla as well | 20:52 |
| lubot | <MichaelTun> though to be fair, vanilla Plasma is not really a selling point imo | 20:52 |
| agaida | nope - i prefer a rocksolid and stable sid | 20:52 |
| agaida | but that should not be the point in #l-devel:D | 20:54 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [cute-software-center] m4sk1n opened pull request #2: fix typo and add plurals handling (master...master) https://git.io/vNbTW | 21:38 | |
| lubot | <MikolajczakMarcin> @MichaelTun, Arch stable is stabler than debian stable for me, I know that’s strange | 21:40 |
| lubot | <MikolajczakMarcin> @MichaelTun, I mean in terms of desktop, performance etc. | 21:41 |
| agaida | m4sk1n: debian stable is about to be stable - and not about running stable - thats a major difference | 21:44 |
| lubot | <MikolajczakMarcin> That’s just my experience | 21:46 |
| lubot | <MikolajczakMarcin> Maybe the way I use my OS matters | 21:46 |
| agaida | and again - think about different meanings of stable | 21:47 |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [cute-software-center] tsimonq2 pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vNbIV | 21:49 | |
| -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- cute-software-center/master ca3672b Marcin Mikołajczak: fix typo and add plurals handling (#2)... | 21:49 | |
| lubot | <MichaelTun> @agaida, I was referring to the development term vs performance and usage | 21:51 |
| lubot | <MichaelTun> Honestly I hate the term used in development | 21:51 |
| lubot | <MichaelTun> I vote for Static instead | 21:51 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> I'm Dead Horseing this convo, not what this chan is for :) | 21:54 |
| agaida | ok, lets talk about the state of lubuntu-next :P | 22:15 |
| lubot | <MichaelTun> @tsimonq2, We can discuss Lubuntu using the term Static instead of Stable for releases :) | 22:55 |
| lubot | <tsimonq2> @MichaelTun, hahahaha | 22:55 |
| lubot | <VikingRedwolf> I want to talk about my cat 😐 | 23:00 |
| lubot | <Wolfenprey> (Document) http://vps.tsimonq2.net//file_3688.mp4 | 23:08 |
| lubot | <VikingRedwolf> @Wolfenprey, 😃 | 23:13 |
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