[00:44] -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- New: accepted lubuntu-artwork [amd64] (bionic-proposed) [0.70]
 (Document) http://vps.tsimonq2.net//file_3685.mp4
 The more I think about this, the more I think I like it: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-discuss/2018-February/017875.html
 rolling release
 kinda
 Sorta but not really
 See my response: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-discuss/2018-February/017877.html
 odd release :D
 *flavour
 ._____.
 *flavor
 .____.
 It's Ubuntu Flavours but it's ok branding called be spelled wrong if they want
 meh not really
 It's mismatched
 🇬🇧
 (Document) http://vps.tsimonq2.net//file_3686.mp4
 I honestly don't know what to think. For example, my Solus OS machine works very well, but at some point, Ikey will release a drastically different ISO. and there comes instability again.
 I was the same way until I realized how wonderful this would actually be.
 Think about it.
 so this could actually work. like a hybrid release mode.
 No more stale release with outdated versions of everything.
 I dont't know
 I can see it working.
 looks like Solus XD
 heh
 debianites usually acused us of being "too cutting edge" regarding packages
 hahahahahahahaha
 well they're dinosaurs in that respect
 So it can go both ways ;D
 that's why :D
 we're like the rebel teenagers LOL
 wait... you're a rebel teenager!
 XD
 btw... HELLO MICHAEL!!! ❤️
 Gummy bears
 @carriewst, O_o
 Gummy chewy meat
 (Document) http://vps.tsimonq2.net//file_3687.mp4
 Please don't.
 Ok
[05:53] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [lubuntu-seeds] tsimonq2 pushed 2 new commits to bionic: https://git.io/vNd8a
[05:53] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- lubuntu-seeds/bionic a4bf77b Simon Quigley: Add theming to desktop-qt.
[05:53] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- lubuntu-seeds/bionic a832c33 Simon Quigley: Adjust for Lubuntu Next now having Plymouth packages.
 @julienlavergne ^^^^
 https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/250375/how-does-gui-in-unix-linux-actually-work
 servers and clients are a behaviour class, they both can be in your machine, or outside. that's the power of Linux, having this kind of binary architecture
 but server doesn't mean necessarily as "web server"
 yw
 an xorg "replacement"
 everytime somebody replaces something it's somehow polemic
 Xorg is archaic and kind of a security problem it’s outlived it’s usefulness. Ubuntu offered Mir and then there is also Wayland
 it's community maintained. Kinda dead though
 Yeah like most of the things canonical starts when it comes to smaller projects, e.g. phone, Unity, and such
 yes, like UbuntuOne, etc...
 I jumped from Ubuntu to Xubuntu and Lubuntu after Unity became the default UI
 I liked Unity
 If done right yes, I deplore iOS and Android. Can’t wait for the Librem 5 phone a Debian based Linux on phone and not a google bastardization
 there's an official Unity flavour coming. maybe.
 I prefer XFCE and LXDE so much lighter and easier to understand for Linux noobs
 it is, both desktops have a more "windows-ish" metaphor. panel with tasks and an app button.
 I generally recommend Ubuntu Mate nowadays for noobs
 but I like the ability of xfce to imitate CDE and other old desktops :)
 I raised with RedHat. I love old stuff :)
 Haven’t used Redhat in years mostly CentOS, Ubuntu (and derivatives), and Debian/raspbian.
 a great distro
 It is for stability and business use if you don’t mind licensing costs
 I’ve been playing with OpenSUSE more and more lately
 @chiefgyk, right
 but that's why we make LTS
 but of course, you don't have a company that supports your specific needs. just the most caring community. and that's a lot
 Was turned onto OpenSUSE it after watching Bryan Lunduke’s show a year or so ago. OpenSUSE Tumbleweed is a great rolling release type distro if you prefer rolling release
 podcast.asknoahshow.com - he got a question about X/Wayland recently
 @VikingRedwolf, Although a financial backing wouldn't be out of the question :)
 I just want a damn phone with true Linux not Android’s google bastardization. KDE and Gnome announced support for Librem 5 😍
 Would be great if LXDE could run on a touchscreen flawlessly then it would be amazing for mobility. I’m working on a pocket sized laptop with Lubuntu after my theft return (tax) allows me to get a 3D printer
 Open sourcing all hardware I make of course 😉
 @chiefgyk, That's probably going to need to be an LXQt goal.
 Definitely but my pocket laptop is geared for small touchpad and mini keyboard.
 Gnome, while heavy, has a great touch UI comparatively
 @Jacob Kim, I think it could be easier on LXQt
 @Jacob Kim, Yea
 KDE seems really heavy for mobility unless they trimmed a lot
 Not really, KDE has gotten much lighter lately, as @MichaelTun can attest :P
 Oh? I’ll have to tinker with it as it is pretty
 OK :)
 @chiefgyk, Plasma is not heavy at all. That's a myth.
 @Jacob Kim, ?
 A distro having issues doesn't mean that the DE itself is the cause of the issues.
 is openSUSE the best distro for KDE in terms of stability and performance?
 @MikolajczakMarcin, Not really. Neon is Ubuntu LTS based so stability is solid and because they roll the KDE stack the performance gets improvements often.
 openSUSE is known for being a Plasma distro but it's not. Their default was switched to GNOME years ago and most of their devs are GNOME users now.
 If you're capable of dealing with cli installing, Arch provides the most vanilla Plasma packages out there
 Give Chakralinux a try if you prefer some theming and tweaked kde with gui installer
 I typically use Arch, but I see almost no differences between Arch+kde and kde neon/kubuntu :D
[19:14] <agaida> m4sk1n: arch has the higher geek rating - whatever that means
[20:31] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [lubuntu-manual] m4sk1n pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vNFA1
[20:31] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- lubuntu-manual/master 16c8cb7 Marcin Mikołajczak: minor fix in Polish translation
 agaida: I’m using arch because it’s the stablest distro basing on my experience…
 @MikolajczakMarcin, there are tons of differences
 @MikolajczakMarcin, arch + stable is pretty much a contradiction
 @brli7848, Neon is vanilla as well
 though to be fair, vanilla Plasma is not really a selling point imo
[20:52] <agaida> nope - i prefer a rocksolid and stable sid
[20:54] <agaida> but that should not be the point in #l-devel:D
[21:38] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [cute-software-center] m4sk1n opened pull request #2: fix typo and add plurals handling (master...master) https://git.io/vNbTW
 @MichaelTun, Arch stable is stabler than debian stable for me, I know that’s strange
 @MichaelTun, I mean in terms of desktop, performance etc.
[21:44] <agaida> m4sk1n: debian stable is about to be stable - and not about running stable - thats a major difference
 That’s just my experience
 Maybe the way I use my OS matters
[21:47] <agaida> and again - think about different meanings of stable
[21:49] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [cute-software-center] tsimonq2 pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vNbIV
[21:49] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- cute-software-center/master ca3672b Marcin Mikołajczak: fix typo and add plurals handling (#2)...
 @agaida, I was referring to the development term vs performance and usage
 Honestly I hate the term used in development
 I vote for Static instead
 I'm Dead Horseing this convo, not what this chan is for :)
[22:15] <agaida> ok, lets talk about the state of lubuntu-next :P
 @tsimonq2, We can discuss Lubuntu  using the term Static instead of Stable for releases :)
 @MichaelTun, hahahaha
 I want to talk about my cat 😐
 (Document) http://vps.tsimonq2.net//file_3688.mp4
 @Wolfenprey, 😃