[00:00] @nacc haha I was just looking at the channel list for a server specific channel.. will do, thx [00:00] pfriel: i can make sure the right folks see it [00:01] ohffy: It's relatively simple to check. Leave the USB device plugged in. Reboot the PC and immediately enter it's firmware setup. Find the "Security" options and (just for this) ensure Secure Boot is enabled. Then, look for a sub-menu/area for "Trust" something-or-other. If you see that, there will be an option to browse to a boot-loader file and trust it, so you find the USB device, then navigate to [00:01] /EFI/ubuntu/bootx64.efi and trust that file, and any others there (like shimx64.efi). Then return to the Security menu and disable Secure Boot, save options, reboot and then try to boot from that USB device via the manual boot device menu [00:02] ok I will look for secureboot [00:02] I have Nvidia 9800 GT. Latest driver on Nvidia site is 340.106 . latest driver in 17.10 repository is 340.104 . Latest one in development ubuntu is Nvidia driver 340.106 . Should i better install 340.104 from ubuntu 17.10 repository or a newer one from nvidia site? [00:03] Nvidia 340.106 release note on nvidia site states: Fixed a compatibility problem between the nvidia.ko's Page Attribute Table (PAT) support and the kernel Page Table Isolation (PTI) patches. [00:03] hey TJ- !!! it works :) [00:03] musta had a skunky broadcom like you said [00:03] Nvidia 340.106 release note on nvidia site states: [00:03] JoeLlama: Yay for non-proprietary drivers :D [00:03] Fixed a compatibility problem between the nvidia.ko's Page Attribute Table (PAT) support and the kernel Page Table Isolation (PTI) patches. [00:03] hey thanks for all the help TJ- [00:04] yuppers non-proprietary [00:04] okee doke thanks again (: [00:04] JoeLlama: glad we got you sorted [00:04] :-) [00:04] I'm still learning ubuntu.... I won't be able to get away from windows completely but I am finding that linux worx so much better and smoother [00:04] yup sorted [00:04] hi Sveta long time no see [00:05] hello :-) [00:08] !btrfs [00:08] Btrfs is a filesystem available for Ubuntu. It is not recommended by default, and should not be used for important data. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/btrfs === precise is now known as precise|npc === xqb` is now known as xqb [00:23] Anyone remember that nice link about setting up Btrfs parameters after install? (Would like to avoid meltdown like I once had after Btrfs install and putting much data on it) [00:23] I mean, to do something setting some parameter, to avoid problem if partition is getting filled in the future, something like that [00:24] I remember I used to delete snapshots and manage metadata when system was unbootable because of this, I would like to avoid that === NyanCat is now known as Sans === noi` is now known as noi [00:30] okay so like, xubuntu vs lubuntu: which is going to work faster on an older systems (Intel Atom 1.6GHz 2G RAM)? [00:30] JoeLlama: the bases, about the same. It depends on the applications you use mostly [00:31] okee doke then I think I'm gunna stick to xubuntu for these... the GUI seems better to me. [00:31] you can always slap a DE on any old ubuntu [00:31] I literally have piles of notebook computers like this [00:32] DE ok I google [00:32] ah I see [00:34] for instance you can use Lubuntu for its light-ness and slap xfce on it, and remove lubuntu-desktop [00:34] Lubuntu is very light [00:34] ya too light [00:34] for me [00:34] it floats [00:35] ok so like for xubuntu 16.04 I can also manually download and install updates of course right? [00:35] I need major help [00:35] I prefer to preinstall updates before a box "sees" the internet [00:35] JoeLlama yes [00:36] you can only install updates yourself === strive is now known as xenobite [00:36] ya I kinda knew that... I will research how later [00:36]

what appears to be the problem? [00:36] thanks amd64 [00:36] I did this: sudo apt-get autoremove ....did this because after installing some stuff...the terminal told me to type this to remove old pakcages....well now it only boots up to the Login screen....when I sign in...it just goes back to login again [00:36] JoeLlama, sudo apt upgrade (retrieves updates) [00:37] Ubuntu 16.04.3 MATE [00:37] ok thanks amd64 [00:37] JoeLlama: if the PCs are connected locally to a LAN through a router that is doing NAT, then there's very little to worry about. [00:37] JUST KIDDING UPDATE DOES RETRIEVAL [00:37] hrm k [00:37] JOELLAMA IM SORRY SUDO APT UPGRADE INSTALLS THEM!!! [00:37] okee dokee [00:37] ? [00:37] amd64 are you saying I can type that and it will restore my Desktop? [00:38]

This might be a problem whit your DE [00:38] (and no that was a different conversation [00:38] ) [00:38] ChristianM-NY: what did you install/remove jsut before using "autoremove" ? [00:38] My DE was fine until I typed suod qpt-get autoremove [00:38] you're running just ubuntu right? [00:38] I dont remember What I installed...but it was probably a music player [00:38] ChristianM-NY: pastebin /var/log/apt/history.log === xenobite is now known as xenobit [00:38] Ubuntu 16.04.3 MATE [00:38] anyone using ubuntu 16.04 on the xps 9560? === xenobit is now known as strive [00:39] I cant! I cannot get into my Ubuntu [00:39] considering buying the xps 15 before the new model comes out [00:39] it only goes upto the Login Screen [00:39] okay hold on CHristianM-NY hang in there [00:40] How do I delete an entry in grub 40_custom [00:40] thanks....I am using the Very laptop though.....it tripleboots MacOSX 10.6, Linux Mint 9 and Ubuntu16.04.3 MATE [00:40] ChristianM-NY: Press Ctrl+Alt+F2 to get a console login [00:40] Stupid HexChat [00:40] ok....what then after that? [00:40] ChristianM-NY: log-in there, then do "pastebinit /var/log/apt/history.log" and tell us the URL it gives you [00:40] Windows version crashes in win10 [00:40] because Once I reboot to do that...wont see you [00:41] ChristianM-NY: Hang on, are you currently using a dual-boot and in a different OS on the same PC? [00:41]

try running sudo apt install mate and tell us what it says [00:42] And that was completely posted in the wrong room [00:42] TJ- how would that help? [00:42] tj I use delete an or backspace and even uncommented..It returns when I run update-grub [00:43] TJ and amd64 ... Yes I am triple booting.....Im on MacOSX now [00:43]

quite the setup you have [00:43]

can you chroot into Ubuntu using a live usb? [00:44] yeah...I use and old Macbook Pro from 2008 and I LOVE it but needed and updated OS that was not MacOS so installed Ubuntu 16.04.3 which I love [00:44] ChristianM-NY: let's give you a couple of things to check when you do boot Ubuntu... [00:44] yes please [00:44] ChristianM-NY: firstly, as I said earlier, use Ctrl+Alt+F2 to get to a console and log-in, then ... [00:45] ok.. [00:46] ChristianM-NY: ... check if any files in your user's home directory are not owned by your user. We often see GUI login loops when 'root' has become owner of $HOME/.Xauthority, so do "ls -altr" and it'll list all files with last-changed at the end. If you see that file owned by root, do "sudo chown $USER:$USER ~/.Xauthority" [00:46] wow...have no idea what you just said [00:47] ChristianM-NY: if that was the case you can return to the GUI greeter log-in screen by pressing Alt+F7 and then logging in [00:47] ChristianM-NY: screenshot/printer time :D [00:47] and Im technically savvy :-) [00:47] how about the history log like you said earlier? [00:49] ChristianM-NY: the reason to view that would be to see what was removed by that autoremove so you could reinstall stuff that is required by the desktop environment [00:50] ChristianM-NY: autoremove will only remove packages that are not required by other packages, but if at some point you've manually removed a 'parent' package it could, later, remove packages that the desktop environmet requires. [00:51] oh...no no....I remember what it removed...it was an old kernel! [00:51] that is said it no longer needed [00:52] ChristianM-NY: the easiest way to avoid having to decipher that is to force a DE reinstall with "sudo apt --reinstall install ubuntu-mate-desktop" which will force any missing dependencies to be fetched and installed [00:52] but it removed othr stuff once I initiated: sudo apt-get autoremove like it told me to [00:52] ChristianM-NY: OK, so I'm going to guess your issue is likely the 'root' ownership then [00:52] how? wont I need to be online? and how do I get online to re-install that? [00:53] Im on Wifi in a Cafe [00:53] well anyway...let me reboot and try some of those you said..... I shall be back in a few ...hopefully [00:53] brb :-) [00:53] ChristianM-NY: one other command you can use "find . -maxdepth 1 \! -user $USER -ls" ... which'll find any files not owned by your $USER, so you know which to "chown" [00:54] ChristianM-NY: if you wanted to automate the fix you could even do "find . -maxdepth 1 \! -user $USER -exec sudo chown $USER:$USER {} \;" [00:55] oh at what point to I press: Ctrl+Alt+F2 to get the terminal? [00:55] ChristianM-NY: when you're at the GUI greeter log-in screen [00:55] at the Login Screen? [00:55] ok thanks [00:55] brb [00:55] ChristianM-NY: but can switch back and forth at any time [01:04] hello world [01:05] hi [01:05] just checking ;)) [01:05] looking for some peers for a project [01:06] what happened to zesty repos? [01:06] a satellite network project [01:06] everything 404s [01:06] !zesty | fengshaun [01:06] fengshaun: Ubuntu 17.04 (Zesty Zapus) was the 26th release of Ubuntu. Support ended on January 13th, 2018. See !eol and https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2018-January/000228.html [01:07] ouch [01:07] how do I upgrade to later versions now? [01:07] !eol | fengshaun [01:07] fengshaun: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades [01:07] thanks [01:08] please have a look https://hackaday.io/project/25963-biometric-firewall [01:08] let me know if you re interested [01:08] fengshaun: :) Good luck . [01:15] hi again [01:15] ok back [01:15] TJ- [01:15] so nothing I typed worked [01:15] pastebinit is not installed it says, so I cannot get the history log [01:16] ls altr when typed the altr is not known [01:16] Alt+F7 just takes me to Login GUI [01:17] and WHile in Login, it showns me options to Login into KODI or Plasma...both do not work and take me back to the login sceen [01:17] ChristianM-NY: "ls -latr" (the hyphen is the 'option' sign [01:17] I see [01:17] well, I will have to come back here another day and try that and get your help...Gotta leave this Cafe.....getting too many Stares :-) [01:18] ChristianM-NY: also, you should have network connection from console if it's configured to autoconnect. [01:18]

lol cya! good luck! [01:18] ChristianM-NY: you really need to boot from a LiveISO to do diagnosis from a stable base [01:18] ^^^^^^^^^ [01:18] TJ..Found the same Puppy Linux in /etc/grub.d/40_custom deleted it and also deleted from /boot/grub/grub.cfg.new Now update-grub is cleared of all errors..Thanks for your help!!! [01:18] its not, but I think in GRUB it lest me repair ubntu and allows me to get network through the terminal I think...so I will try that next time [01:19] yeah, Will Try [01:19] texla: finally!!! :D [01:19] I do have plenty of Live Ubuntu disks [01:19] but anyway... I got to go! ..Thanks TJ_ and amd64 [01:20] Bye yall! [01:20] :) [01:20] AY HE'S A FELLOW SUTHERNER [01:21] *sorry === amd64 is now known as i486 [02:01] Hi guys. So lets talk about dual screen with xubuntu :) [02:01] what's the trick? [02:03] here I go gunna plug the external monitor in (: [02:04] welp, it recognized it [02:06] Greetings denizens [02:07] it worked [02:07] My sentiments exactly :) [02:08] Can anyone help newb figure out why I can't get firefox in Ubuntu? [02:08] Doesn't show up in any software list and tor won't run at all [02:11] FYI, I had to remove my "updated" firefox and revert to v47 just to reinstall chatzilla [02:12] Seems 58 won't let it install or run [02:14] not sure if I'm using the proper syntax ... I know how much some people hate improper usage ... [02:17] Or maybe I showed up at nap time [02:18] im here [02:18] that's extremely odd [02:18] ChileStuff: what versio of ubuntu? [02:18] Yay! :) [02:18] hi and welcome i486 [02:18] 17 something .. on another laptop [02:18] ChileStuff: it's rather important [02:18] um hello Lupercus [02:18] ChileStuff: if it's 17.04, then your EOL [02:19] ChileStuff: if it's 17.10, then it should work, yes [02:19] ChileStuff: (zesty and artful, respectively) [02:20] he could still add the custom firefox repo [02:20] Well for some reason after updating to the latest firefox it refused to even see chatzilla [02:20] i486: which would not be supported here, so let's pass on that [02:20] ok nacc [02:21] So I removed firefox in order to reload, but now ubuntu don't even see firefox in any of the software lists [02:22] what's not supported here? Did I miss something? === dingir___ is now known as dingir [02:23] ChileStuff: hello! [02:23] Hiyas [02:24] ChileStuff: chatzilla does not work in firefox 58+ because firefox dropped the legacy extensions api. hang on, i'll check how to get it back with ubuntu [02:24] Thank you! [02:25] ChileStuff how are you today? [02:25] Sadly I can't even find firefox, and even after installing Tor, it won't run at all [02:25] Agrivated at updates that screw perfectly good setups :) [02:26] Thought that would end after killing Winblows [02:26] ChileStuff: a firefox fork continues to have the legacy api, its install instructions are located at http://linux.palemoon.org/ (click the ubuntu and debian link on the page). then chatzilla is listed in its addon manager [02:26] ChileStuff: this is outside of official ubuntu repository, so bug reports need to be filed to palemoon website not to ubuntu [02:27] ChileStuff: alternatively, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/PPAs provide a seamonkey package that includes the entire suite (web browser, mail, chatzilla) in one program [02:27] Moving to an outdated fork of Firefox just to support an unmaintained addon is not a good idea. [02:27] Ok, gimme a sec ... this is a winblows machine, I have to go to the linux box [02:28] Firefox Quantum is a big improvement, and most of the actively developed addons have moved over by now. [02:28] if someone opens a bountysource entry for moving chatzilla over, i'll chip in :) [02:28] Chatzilla was always limited in the first place. If you use IRC a lot, why not use an IRC application? [02:28] Hexchat, Konversation, etc [02:28] Yeah, I'm a big fan of "improvements" that screw the pooch :/ [02:29] ChileStuff, nobody was screwed except people who rely on abandonware [02:29] Kon- oof truth hurts [02:30] Yeah well I'm one of those old farts that hates change :D [02:30] ChileStuff: then why are you not an LTS release? [02:30] ChileStuff: you're being a bit self-contradictory [02:31] I have a mind like a legacy HDD ... limited storage space: Once it's full, you have to remove something to learn something new [02:31] self-contradictory as in what am I doing with Linux? [02:32] nacc ubuntu version really won't be important until 18.04 rolls in [02:32] ChileStuff: you say you don't want chnage, but then you're running a reelase that requires you to upgrade every 6-9 months [02:32] i486: ... i don't know why you say that [02:32] After loosing my voice screaming at yet another windows 10 "update", I had enough [02:33] Sup [02:33] And for arguments sake, I dind't know it would update that often ... I just got into Ubuntu a month ago [02:33] I still have a lot to learn [02:33] nacc the main issue with ChileStuff is probably just UI, something that won't receive a major change until 18.04. [02:33] ChileStuff: it's worth reading the release notes and knowing how long things are supported for [02:34] i486: i have no idea what you're talking about. They said they are on 17.x, which was the gnome transition [02:34] 17.10 is awesome [02:34] i486: if you mean if they were on an LTS in the first place, yes, you might be right [02:34] ChileStuff, you on 17.10? [02:34] nacc oh forgot [02:34] i486: but i don't know why or how you assumed that [02:34] It would help if I had more time to devote to learning, but my business keeps me jumping [02:34] ChileStuff, be aware that 17.10 will stop receiving updates in July. If you upgrade to 18.04, that will get updates until April 2023 [02:35] I went from 16.06 to 18.04 dev [02:35] Kon-: well, and you have to update by june/july or so [02:35] Yeah I'll prolly update when it's out [02:35] Yeah, stay on the x.04 releases if you want long-term support =) [02:35] ChileStuff that means no major changes will happen until you are forced out of 18.04 LTS [02:35] If you don't like change ;-) [02:36] Hopefully by then I'll know a lot more, or I'll be dead ... still trying to figure out which is best :P [02:36] Where is the best place to learn ... commands, etc [02:38] I'd start by learning general things like how to use apt and sudo [02:38] Sveta: Can I move my thunderbird files over to seamonkey? [02:38] just as a starting foothold. Everyone needs to know how to run things as root and update their computers [02:38] what channel is for just general ubuntu chat? [02:38] My entire business is in thunderbird [02:39] ChileStuff, I recommend SeaMonkey to no one. Stay in Thunderbird if it is your most important application. [02:39] i486: Yeah that's what I mean ... any good resources for the newb? [02:41] I'm young so I googled until I found a way to perform the task without breaking anything [02:41] Ok, can you recommend something other that chatzilla? Preferably one that doesn't choke on VPN === openthesky1 is now known as openthesky [02:41] LOL [02:42] Well, I was a tech back when state of the art was 40 Meg HDDs, 4" thinck and "My GAWD! Who will EVER use that much storage?" [02:43] ChileStuff, since you're on GNOME, Hexchat [02:43] I think mainline Ubuntu comes with it preinstalled [02:43] But things changed to fast to keep up, so now I make hot sauce for a living [02:43] hmm [02:43] irssi is a good one if you really want to learn command line ;) [02:44] ChileStuff I am on HexChat and the UI is really easy to use [02:44] Not preinstalled, but in the software mgr [02:45] Interesting. Does anyone know what the main Ubuntu image ships with? I'm on KDE [02:45] But firefox is nowhere to be found .. what is the sudo command to find it? [02:45] if you're talking about irc clients I'm actually trying irc from pidgin and it's really good so far [02:45] hmm [02:46] I used to use Pidgin, but because it's a combo client, the IRC functionality is quite barebones. And all of the other IM services it supports became irrelevant [02:46] "unable to install hexchat as not supported" [02:46] Kon-: I'm not a super heavy irc user, what was missing? [02:46] openthesky, it's been a few years but I remember having to authenticate through autorun chat commands to query Nickserv [02:47] what kind of queries? [02:48] query Nickserv identify password [02:48] you enable SASL for that === precise|npc is now known as precise [02:48] actually now I'm curious how auth works... [02:49] kenrin, at least when I last used it, Pidgin did not support SASL or PASS authentication [02:49] seemed to go ok, although NickServ sent me a message that I'm logged in [02:49] Nor did it have color cutomization or log format customization, which also annoyed me in the end [02:49] That sounds like Pidgin, does everything badly instead of one thing good [02:50] I could see that. I think I'm just used to the AIM style of things. buddy lists and such. [02:50] Didn't AIM go offline recently? [02:50] It did! [02:50] damn [02:51] can't say I used it after 2005, but it's too bad it's gone [02:51] how do I ident? [02:51] The better question is why ChileStuff can't install Hexchat from the software center [02:51] Nah, it's done [02:51] I've never had good luck with the software center personally [02:51] trying to get in from the other machine but forgot how [02:51] maybe I just break my installation too much [02:52] wht's the syntax to ident? [02:52] I don't blame you. I have never used the Ubuntu software center for anything [02:52] you mean /msg nickserv identify password ? [02:52] yes thanks [02:52] does idnet == NickServ? [02:53] I don't know what ident is, I assume short for identify [02:53] I used to have a great memory, but the 60's were very good to me [02:53] If you forget all the time, like me. Just /msg nickserv help [02:55] ^&&^%%$*$ [02:56] Ok hexchat is much different than chatzilla [02:56] I don't mean to derail the channel to irc stuff but how do you guys maintain a contact list? I've used hexchat and I always had trouble knowing when someone was on or not without poking nickserv or something funny like that [02:56] It keeps disconnecting and reconnecting too fast for me to get a type in edgewiase [02:57] I use a weechat script, called buddylist [02:57] ChileStuff: is your network connection funky? [02:59] Not sure what you mean [02:59] I think he is asking why it is disconnecting [03:02] My network is fine, I don't think I'm using hexchat properly [03:03] It's installed, but I think I need to reconfigure the settings [03:03] are you trying to find a new irc client? [03:03] Yeah that works without firefox [03:04] I know you're trying hexchat but like I said before I'm using pidgin right now. it's pretty great, fairly intuitive. [03:05] hexchat I found sort of confusing, but I used to use it a lot before switching to firefox because it felt clunky to me. === beaver_ is now known as beaver [03:08] No pidgin here [03:10] Ok, found a pidgin, but it says it's an IM client [03:10] Pardon me for interrupting but i think it is [03:11] ChileStuff, if you don't like Hexchat, try Konversation. It's a bit better looking and easier to get around in [03:12] Hi everyone! I need help debugging a strange issue: after I log into the graphical session my keyboard stops working. No program seems to receive its input. Even the on-screen keyboard can't send input [03:12] Any ideas for what I could try? [03:13] A pox on all idiots that create a password and then forget it! (he says poking himself in the eye ...) [03:14] This site is telling me Java or Flash is not installed in firefox or chromium browsers... but it is installed. Is there something I can do to fi this? http://www.yourlifechoices.com.au/extra/trivia [03:14] Isn't there a command, (sudo or something) that goes out to find and install sofware without the software manager? [03:14] There is a reset procedure you can use. But if you didn't sign up with an email you just have to wait for the nick to be reclaimed [03:15] ChileStuff, query NickServ SENDPASS will allow you to reset your password via the email you used to register [03:15] Oh I'm talking about my admin pass in Ubunto :/ [03:16] Yeah, you'll need to be able to remember that [03:16] Good thing my GF likes making lists [03:16] "Yo're gonna need this later ..." [03:16] I hate when she's right [03:17] ChilieStuff: yes, I think there's a better way but here's what I do: [03:17] apt-cache search [03:17] sudo apt-get install [03:17] Takes just a few minutes to reset [03:17] the first searches with a term, the second installs something (need your admin pass for it) [03:17] lol [03:18] I find it helps to do a google search for programs then follow the instructions you find. usually it's pretty easy. === weechat is now known as weeechat [03:19] How do you google from a command-line ? [03:19] easiest way would probably to used a command line based browser. lynx is the most popular. [03:20] Any ideas on the keyboard? It's only in my own session -- the guest session works just fine. And also the F1 terminal [03:21] fovc: what's wrong with your keyboard? [03:22] openthesky: after logging in, keyboard input is ignored -- even the virtual keyboard [03:22] [03:22] hmm [03:22] Even from ssh ? [03:22] I see some posts about people having slowkeys enabled accidentally and their keyboard stopped working on that user [03:22] I guess I need to add an alternate identity [03:23] kenrin: Oh let me check! [03:24] flash plugin runs in chrome (chrome claims it is out of date) but will not run in firefox [03:24] Ok that didn't work [03:24] ChileStuff: re TB to SM move: maybe works; please try [03:25] Dalek_Breath, sudo apt update && sudo apt dist-upgrade [03:25] welp, I'm running xubuntu 16.04 on an intel atom 1.6 Ghz notebook 2G RAM and I am impressed. Ran external keyboard, split monitors, mouse, 256G USB stick, speakers off of this little 9 inch computer. [03:25] and it did it all [03:26] it couldn't handle large video files but smaller ones under 1G it did really well [03:26] JoeLlama: nice. feels good when stuff just works like that. [03:26] yes openthesky exactly! [03:26] have you tried using VLC for videos? I prefer it a ton to the default one [03:26] might fix the 1G video problem [03:27] JoeLlama, sudo apt install lxde (lubuntu's desktop envronment) logout, choose lxde session login or [03:27] I got Konversation loaded, but since I'm here it won't let me in, even with an alternate nick [03:27] My next system I'm going to use is Intel Atom N470 1.83 GHz 64 bitter with 2 G RAM [03:27] brb [03:27] hrm cfhowlett? [03:27] JoeLlama, install mplayer and run your movie from the command line [03:27] I like xubuntu it's okay with it's desktop [03:27] That's cool [03:28] What is that one xfce search menu thing? [03:28] I like vlc and vlc supports the CrystalHD video decoder [03:28] How is xubuntu? [03:28] whiskermenu? [03:28] ak073 well... it's not fancy but it works :) [03:28] and seems to work well on these little single core boxes [03:29] windows would be a joke on one of these [03:29] I have like fix of these or more... [03:29] not sure yet still looking [03:29] What you using those for if you got six [03:29] It worked! [03:29] they are 9.1 inch notebooksfrom like 2009 [03:29] yay! it worked! [03:29] I haven't tried it on my smaller devices yet. [03:29] It worked on ssh fovc? See if you got any accessibility things enabled for that user [03:29] I love hearing that sound [03:30] yes I *love* small older reliable computers [03:30] Yeah! It was the slow keys [03:30] I hook them up to LARGE external screens [03:30] Good, because that is the only thing I found =) [03:30] I hope my CrystalHD decoder boards do the trick for larger video files [03:31] What did you search for?? I tried a bunch of dfferent things and didn't find that [03:31] I searched for "keyboard doesn't work for certain user ubuntu" [03:31] It was the first link [03:31] What do you recommend for a small computer? [03:31] ak073 I dunwanna tell :P [03:31] older dells (: [03:31] I like dells [03:32] I have notebooks from 2006 that are worjking great including battery packs [03:32] hard to believe [03:32] when I run on batteries I throttle things way down [03:32] Just tried it: duckduckgo fail, Google success! :( [03:32]