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| Senpos | Hello. Is it known problem in Xubuntu 18.04 latest daily build, when system loads up, it can take a lot of time to actually see the desktop? Transition between Plymouth -> Xfce desktop takes up to 30 seconds and at that time screen is filled with black, only empty panel is visible. | 07:17 |
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| Senpos | No problems were found in 17.10. Only 18.04 has it and since very first releases. | 07:19 |
| krytarik | Senpos: Yes, it's already been noticed, LP bug 1740378. | 07:23 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1740378 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Bionic ISO slow to boot" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1740378 | 07:23 |
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| alpha_Aquilae | Hello | 13:40 |
| alpha_Aquilae | I'm finding xubuntu's irc french channels. Let me know please. | 13:50 |
| knome | i don't think there are any french channels for xubuntu | 13:51 |
| knome | !fr | alpha_Aquilae | 13:51 |
| ubottu | alpha_Aquilae: Nous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci. | 13:51 |
| alpha_Aquilae | k thanks knome... | 13:52 |
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| xubuntu72w | Hi! I'm new here but an experienced *buntu user of many years. I hope someone can help. I'm trying to set up a new PC (Lenovo Think Server TS150) with XUbuntu. I've created a 16.04 live-DVD to boot from. I can install this fine onto the machine. I'll be happy running 16.04 LTS until the next LTS release comes out, BUT, I wanted to test out the upgrade procedure before committing to this setup (it will be a home server)... | 18:34 |
| xubuntu72w | Upgrading using the standard graphical update software, the process works, but then after reboot, I'm left with a machine with a frozen mouse and keyboard.... | 18:35 |
| xubuntu72w | If I switch to another terminal Ctrl-alt-f1 or ssh in, I can sudo apt-get install xorg-input-all (or something like that) which makes the mouse and keyboard work again, but.... | 18:36 |
| xubuntu72w | that allows me to type in my password at the greeter screen. Once I press enter, the screen goes black, and then takes me back to the greeter screen. I can't login via the graphical greeter | 18:37 |
| xubuntu72w | I CAN login in ctrl-alt-f1 and via SSH so it's not a password issue, it's like the greeter is not launching the window manager. | 18:37 |
| xubuntu72w | if under CTRL-ALT-F1, I type Startx, the GUI starts there (in terminal 1), but I can't get it to start in terminal 7 (Ctrl-alt-f7) where the greeter is | 18:38 |
| xubuntu72w | This is making me very worried that when it comes to updating from 16.04LTS to 18.04LTS I will be left with a machine that I can't use in the normal way. | 18:39 |
| xubuntu72w | Has anyone any ideas what I can do to fix this, or can they reassure me that when it comes to updating from 16.04 to 18.04 that this process will work? | 18:40 |
| drleviathan | xubuntu72w, i've had that symptom: login to graphical interface but it returns to the login screen when my $HOME directory was no longer available | 18:43 |
| drleviathan | I'm not saying that is your exact problem | 18:43 |
| drleviathan | but I had the same symptoms | 18:43 |
| drleviathan | the problem being: i had restored my $HOME from backup which had a different userID | 18:44 |
| drleviathan | after doing a chown operation on $HOME I was able to get in | 18:45 |
| drleviathan | xubuntu72w, try this: in terminal mode... | 18:45 |
| drleviathan | move your $HOME to the side: cd /; sudo mv $HOME /home/oldhome | 18:45 |
| drleviathan | make a new empty $HOME | 18:46 |
| drleviathan | try to login via the graphical greeter | 18:46 |
| drleviathan | if that works, manually copy the files you want to keep from /home/oldhome to $HOME | 18:46 |
| xubuntu72w | OK, I will try that. I will also try creating a new user. This machine is unused at the moment apart from testing the install, so I can do almost anything easily. | 18:47 |
| drleviathan | I seem to recall having the problem you describe in another case: my xfce config files were bad and that workaround above solved it. | 18:47 |
| drleviathan | all that said, I never do a dist upgrade. I always bakcup all data and then reinstall without reformatting. So far all the files in my $HOME survive intact. | 18:48 |
| xubuntu72w | Am away from that machine at the moment, will try and get back to you all. | 18:48 |
| xubuntu72w | Thanks. | 18:49 |
| xubuntu72w | Hi, me again with the xubuntu lts 16.04 -> 17.04. Unfortunately, creating a new home/user directory, chowning all the files in the user's directory and creating a new user all have exactly the same effect. Press Log in... thinks... screen goes blank then back to the greeter. | 19:56 |
| xubuntu72w | It's like the greeter isn't launching the window manager or gdm. Any ideas if I can check this or configure it? | 19:57 |
| drleviathan | xubuntu72w, the new $HOME... it was empty? | 19:57 |
| drleviathan | or you copied stuff to it before you tried to login? | 19:57 |
| xubuntu72w | New $home was empty. | 19:58 |
| xubuntu72w | new user $home was populated by default files | 19:59 |
| xubuntu72w | neither worked | 19:59 |
| galacticaboy | how does one upgrade to the new xubuntu release without having to download the iso? | 19:59 |
| drleviathan | hrm... was there an error file in $HOME after the attempt? maybe a hidden one? | 19:59 |
| xubuntu72w | @galacticaboy - from the menu, "software updater" | 19:59 |
| xubuntu72w | @drleviathan. Ah, .xsession-errors. Didn't spot that... looking | 20:00 |
| xubuntu72w | @drleviathan Aha! /etc/X11/Xsession.d/99x11-common_start: line 5: /sbin/upstart: | 20:02 |
| xubuntu72w | No such file or directory | 20:02 |
| drleviathan | my /etc/X11/Xsession.d/99x11-common_start has just one uncommented out line: exec $STARTUP | 20:03 |
| drleviathan | I'm on 17.10 | 20:04 |
| xubuntu72w | In the many pages I've read before asking to help, I seem to remember something about reinstalling xsession | 20:04 |
| drleviathan | ? xsession isn't a package | 20:04 |
| xubuntu72w | OK, my faulty memory then | 20:05 |
| xubuntu72w | I read a lot! | 20:05 |
| xubuntu72w | my 99x11-common_start has also just exec $STARTUP | 20:07 |
| xubuntu72w | ... googling gave this link which I'm trying https://askubuntu.com/questions/999180/16-04-to-17-10-login-loop-because-of-xsession-and-upstart | 20:12 |
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| xubuntu72w | @drleviathan @leviathanAFK WOOT!! Result. Thanks. :-) The steps listed in that link seem to have fixed it. | 20:16 |
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| galacticaboy | Ok so I upgraded to the newest xubuntu release. I get to the login screen and enter my password, it goes to a black screen and back to the login screen. I dropped to a terminal and sudo starts and that does not work either | 21:51 |
| galacticaboy | What do I do | 21:51 |
| galacticaboy | https://i.imgur.com/zg3pjSj.jpg | 21:52 |
| drleviathan | look in your $HOME for a hidden error file: ls -l ~/ | grep -i error | 21:53 |
| drleviathan | galacticaboy, from what version? Maybe you're having the exact same problem as xubuntu72w? | 21:54 |
| galacticaboy | From the Lts to the newest | 21:55 |
| xubuntu72w | Exactly what I did. so.... | 21:55 |
| galacticaboy | I got no hidden error file | 21:56 |
| xubuntu72w | 1) are your mouse and keyboard working OK? | 21:56 |
| galacticaboy | https://i.imgur.com/eBWu5gw.jpg | 21:56 |
| galacticaboy | Keyboard seems to be working, touchpad is not but the nipple pointer on my laptop works | 21:57 |
| xubuntu72w | try... | 21:59 |
| xubuntu72w | cd | 21:59 |
| xubuntu72w | ls -al | 21:59 |
| xubuntu72w | (Moves to your home directory, list all files) | 21:59 |
| xubuntu72w | you may have a file called .xsession.errors (or similar) | 21:59 |
| xubuntu72w | if you have one of those, try to cat it. cat .xsession...(whatever its exact name) | 22:00 |
| xubuntu72w | mine contained the text "/etc/X11/Xsession.d/99x11-common_start: line 5: /sbin/upstart: No such file or directory" | 22:00 |
| xubuntu72w | if yours has that, then the fix is contained in this page https://askubuntu.com/questions/999180/16-04-to-17-10-login-loop-because-of-xsession-and-upstart | 22:01 |
| galacticaboy | https://i.imgur.com/07IfuY1.jpg | 22:01 |
| galacticaboy | Sorry for the bad camera quality it’s irc on my phone | 22:01 |
| xubuntu72w | ok, so type | 22:02 |
| xubuntu72w | cat .xsession-errors | 22:02 |
| drleviathan | oh right... i forgot the -a argument to ls when I gave him that advice above. That is why he didn't see any file with 'error' in it. | 22:03 |
| xubuntu72w | :-) | 22:03 |
| galacticaboy | https://i.imgur.com/eQeECmN.jpg | 22:03 |
| xubuntu72w | OK, you have exactly the same problem as me. Solution is simple | 22:04 |
| galacticaboy | Thank god a solution! :) | 22:05 |
| xubuntu72w | hang on, lost the link.... | 22:06 |
| galacticaboy | Don’t worry I’m not going anywhere lol | 22:06 |
| drleviathan | this is the link: https://askubuntu.com/questions/999180/16-04-to-17-10-login-loop-because-of-xsession-and-upstart | 22:07 |
| xubuntu72w | Yep, ta | 22:08 |
| xubuntu72w | type | 22:08 |
| xubuntu72w | cd /etc/X11/Xsession.d/ | 22:09 |
| galacticaboy | Okay did that | 22:09 |
| xubuntu72w | mkdir ../BAK | 22:09 |
| xubuntu72w | {makes a backup directory} | 22:09 |
| galacticaboy | Okay | 22:10 |
| xubuntu72w | sudo mv 00upstart ../BAK | 22:10 |
| galacticaboy | Ok | 22:10 |
| xubuntu72w | sudo mv 99upstart ../BAK | 22:10 |
| galacticaboy | Ok | 22:11 |
| xubuntu72w | sudo mv 99x11-common_start ../BAK | 22:11 |
| galacticaboy | Ok | 22:11 |
| xubuntu72w | so that's the typing done hopefully. CTRL-ALT-F7 to go back to the greeter screen | 22:12 |
| xubuntu72w | then try to login | 22:12 |
| galacticaboy | https://i.imgur.com/0xDIBPv.jpg | 22:14 |
| galacticaboy | Oh I’m about to throw this laptop | 22:14 |
| galacticaboy | Now I’m stuck here | 22:15 |
| xubuntu72w | That looks like what I got when I rebooted. Did you reboot, or was that what you got when you did ctrl-alt-f7? | 22:16 |
| galacticaboy | After ctrl-alt-f7 | 22:16 |
| galacticaboy | I also rebooted and got that | 22:17 |
| xubuntu72w | OK, when you rebooted, presumably you see a graphical greeter, i.e. a box that has a username and box for password, and a button that says login? | 22:18 |
| galacticaboy | No... I see the xubuntu logo with the spinny circle then this screen | 22:18 |
| galacticaboy | I can drop to a terminal and login that way but no GUI | 22:19 |
| drleviathan | so now maybe look in /var/log... do: ls -lart /var/log | 22:19 |
| drleviathan | what files are near the bottom (most recently changed) | 22:20 |
| galacticaboy | https://i.imgur.com/Gm3CDEw.jpg | 22:20 |
| xubuntu72w | Can I just but in for a second? My system when doing that update was missing an element of Xorg. To fix it I had to do... | 22:21 |
| xubuntu72w | sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-input-all | 22:21 |
| galacticaboy | Please butt in, I’m so frustrated I need all the helps | 22:21 |
| xubuntu72w | That made my mouse and keyboard work on the login screen (but you're not seeing the login screen). | 22:21 |
| galacticaboy | Well I installed that for when I get it back | 22:22 |
| xubuntu72w | might be worth trying that, then looking at the log files. Perhaps also worth doing sudo apt-get install --reinstall xubuntu-desktop | 22:22 |
| galacticaboy | Alright doing that too | 22:23 |
| drleviathan | that sounds like good advice. I don't see a likely recently changed log file in that list, unless there are clues in kern.log. | 22:23 |
| galacticaboy | Ive reinstalled xubuntu desktop should I reboot | 22:24 |
| xubuntu72w | Gosh yes | 22:25 |
| drleviathan | galacticaboy, you backed up important data before trying to upgrade your release version, right? | 22:25 |
| galacticaboy | No all my data stays in the cloud so I don’t have any “important” data on here | 22:26 |
| galacticaboy | But on a positive note I see my login screen again | 22:27 |
| galacticaboy | Just a sec | 22:27 |
| drleviathan | I interpret that as "yes, I did" | 22:27 |
| xubuntu72w | YAY! | 22:27 |
| galacticaboy | And I’m still stuck in a loop | 22:27 |
| xubuntu72w | Boo! | 22:27 |
| galacticaboy | I enter the password, see that black screen I showed the back to the login screen, my mouse works now so we’re getting somewhere | 22:28 |
| xubuntu72w | OK, so it seems like you are where I was a while ago. | 22:28 |
| xubuntu72w | Lets check. | 22:28 |
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| galacticaboy | https://i.imgur.com/rf51JRR.jpg | 22:29 |
| galacticaboy | Login screen | 22:29 |
| xubuntu72w | Do you get a Text box with a username showing at the top, a space for password at the bottom and a button saying login. | 22:29 |
| xubuntu72w | yes. Good | 22:29 |
| xubuntu72w | OK, so type in a bad password. | 22:29 |
| xubuntu72w | it should say invalid password. | 22:29 |
| galacticaboy | Invalid password, please try again | 22:30 |
| xubuntu72w | OK, try correct password. | 22:30 |
| galacticaboy | Black screen, then login screen | 22:30 |
| xubuntu72w | OK, same as what I had. | 22:30 |
| xubuntu72w | OK, switch to terminal 1, CTRL-ALT-F1 | 22:31 |
| xubuntu72w | Login | 22:31 |
| galacticaboy | Ok | 22:31 |
| xubuntu72w | (same user you used at the greeter screen) | 22:31 |
| galacticaboy | Yep I logged in | 22:31 |
| xubuntu72w | ls -al | 22:31 |
| xubuntu72w | is there an .xsession-error | 22:32 |
| galacticaboy | https://i.imgur.com/T8xoVeX.jpg | 22:32 |
| galacticaboy | Yes .xsession-errors and .xsession-errors.old | 22:32 |
| drleviathan | there may be a clue therein | 22:33 |
| xubuntu72w | yep, but... | 22:33 |
| xubuntu72w | type date | 22:33 |
| xubuntu72w | need to comapre your computer's time with the date of the .xsession-errors file | 22:33 |
| galacticaboy | “Thu Feb 1 17:33:31 EST 2018 | 22:34 |
| drleviathan | so the .xsession-errors file is an hour old | 22:34 |
| galacticaboy | Xsession-errors is feb 1 16:34 right around the upgrade time | 22:34 |
| xubuntu72w | check. DO.. | 22:34 |
| xubuntu72w | touch testfile | 22:34 |
| xubuntu72w | ls -al | 22:35 |
| xubuntu72w | look for testfile | 22:35 |
| xubuntu72w | especially its time | 22:35 |
| galacticaboy | Yes it’s there and the time is 17:35 which is right | 22:35 |
| xubuntu72w | OK, so .xsession-errors is an old file. It won't contain error information pertinant to why it's not working now. | 22:36 |
| xubuntu72w | I don't know what to do now. Sorry. DrLeviathan? | 22:36 |
| drleviathan | the only idea I have would be to look in /var/log again to see if there is a likely recently changed log file that might have some clues | 22:37 |
| galacticaboy | How do I do that | 22:37 |
| drleviathan | ls -lart /var/log | 22:38 |
| drleviathan | list contents, long format, all, reverse by time | 22:38 |
| drleviathan | the most recently changed files will show up at the bottom | 22:38 |
| galacticaboy | https://i.imgur.com/zxmva1I.jpg | 22:39 |
| drleviathan | so there are three files changed right around when you tried to login: auth, kern, and syslog | 22:40 |
| xubuntu72w | worth a look at Xorg.0.log too? | 22:40 |
| xubuntu72w | to look at them, one at a time | 22:40 |
| xubuntu72w | sudo cat syslog | 22:41 |
| drleviathan | xubuntu72w, is right, look at that one first | 22:41 |
| xubuntu72w | sudo cat auth | 22:41 |
| drleviathan | you can look at the last 10 lines of a file like so: tail filename | 22:41 |
| xubuntu72w | yep, sudo cat Xorg.0.log | 22:41 |
| drleviathan | shows less data than cat, for quick check | 22:41 |
| xubuntu72w | yep, tail better than cat | 22:41 |
| drleviathan | looking at Xorg log doesn't require sudo priv | 22:42 |
| drleviathan | but the last three files there do require it, as per the permission bits | 22:42 |
| galacticaboy | No such file or directory :( | 22:42 |
| drleviathan | ? | 22:42 |
| drleviathan | what command did you type? | 22:42 |
| xubuntu72w | we're not in /var/log | 22:43 |
| xubuntu72w | so we need to do | 22:43 |
| xubuntu72w | tail /var/log/Xorg.0.log | 22:43 |
| xubuntu72w | not just tail Xorg.0.log | 22:43 |
| galacticaboy | https://i.imgur.com/2FQ7LrM.jpg | 22:44 |
| drleviathan | hrm... Xorg log files usually have "EE" in lines that have errors | 22:45 |
| drleviathan | so you need to search a little harder, the clue might not be at the end of the file | 22:45 |
| drleviathan | try this: grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log | 22:46 |
| drleviathan | (show all lines that have the pattern "EE") | 22:46 |
| galacticaboy | https://i.imgur.com/7uJcpjJ.jpg | 22:47 |
| galacticaboy | Nothing is listed | 22:47 |
| drleviathan | yeah, that is just the key line telling you what EE means | 22:47 |
| drleviathan | well tail the other recently changed log files to see if you can find a clue | 22:48 |
| drleviathan | alternatively you can try my trick of trying to login with an empty $HOME directory | 22:48 |
| galacticaboy | Whichever one has a better chance of getting me logged back into my lappy lol | 22:49 |
| xubuntu72w | OK, quick test | 22:50 |
| xubuntu72w | adduser test | 22:50 |
| xubuntu72w | set password as something simple like test | 22:50 |
| xubuntu72w | then try switching back to the greeter (ctrl-alt-F7) and see if you can login as test. | 22:51 |
| xubuntu72w | NB didn't work for me, but then, the fix that worked for me didn't work for you | 22:51 |
| drleviathan | he can login to the terminal with his password | 22:51 |
| galacticaboy | I typed in the password at the login screen, it just resets the text box, it does not even tell me it’s incorrect or anything | 22:52 |
| xubuntu72w | yes, but create a new user, that creates default files for the user, that user's files will have the correct permissions, so if he can login as test, it's a permissions issue, if he can't, it isn't. That's my reasoning anyway | 22:52 |
| xubuntu72w | Did the screen go blank for a moment @galacticaboy? | 22:53 |
| galacticaboy | Hey wait... sorry I entered the wrong password | 22:54 |
| galacticaboy | I’m in! | 22:54 |
| xubuntu72w | Cool! | 22:54 |
| galacticaboy | https://i.imgur.com/gh95suZ.jpg | 22:54 |
| xubuntu72w | You're logged in as test, is that correct? | 22:54 |
| galacticaboy | How do I get into my account though | 22:54 |
| galacticaboy | Well I called the user “a” but yes | 22:54 |
| xubuntu72w | OK. We're not out of the woods yet. | 22:55 |
| xubuntu72w | BUT | 22:55 |
| galacticaboy | Ok | 22:55 |
| xubuntu72w | This seems like @drleviathan was telling me way back. | 22:55 |
| xubuntu72w | It could be something to do with the permissions of your files in your home directory. | 22:55 |
| xubuntu72w | @drleviathan, what do you suggest, mv out of home directory, or chown all files? | 22:56 |
| xubuntu72w | (in the home directory, obviously) | 22:56 |
| drleviathan | since all of galacticaboy's important data is stored on the cloud... | 22:56 |
| drleviathan | I'd say: copy $HOME to the side, create a new empty $HOME, and try to login | 22:57 |
| drleviathan | so galacticaboy it would go something like this from the terminal... | 22:57 |
| drleviathan | cd /; sudo mv /home/david /home/oldDavid; sudo mkdir /home/david | 22:58 |
| drleviathan | that's ^^^ multiple commands separated by semicolons. You can run that as one line. | 22:58 |
| xubuntu72w | Need to do ctrl-alt-f1 again first though to get back to a terminal | 22:58 |
| drleviathan | galacticaboy, what is your linux command-line expertise level? | 22:59 |
| galacticaboy | Sudo apt-get install/remove is about it | 22:59 |
| galacticaboy | And I did those commands | 23:00 |
| drleviathan | now try to login at the graphical login screen | 23:00 |
| galacticaboy | Nope same issue | 23:01 |
| galacticaboy | Black screen back to logon | 23:01 |
| galacticaboy | :x | 23:01 |
| drleviathan | which is different from the "wrong password" behavior, right? | 23:01 |
| galacticaboy | Yes | 23:01 |
| drleviathan | so back to the terminal. Are there any files in the new (formerly empty) directory? | 23:02 |
| drleviathan | ls -lart ~/ | 23:02 |
| galacticaboy | Wrong password gives me no black screen just the incorrect password error | 23:02 |
| galacticaboy | https://i.imgur.com/QUzK6XG.jpg | 23:03 |
| chomwitt | i just installed xubuntu 16.04 and the screen turned black, going to 'sleep' ? | 23:03 |
| xubuntu72w | @galacticaboy. You missed a space after lart | 23:04 |
| drleviathan | galacticaboy, so no clues left in the home dir | 23:04 |
| drleviathan | not on his second try xubuntu72w | 23:04 |
| xubuntu72w | dur, missed that! | 23:05 |
| galacticaboy | https://i.imgur.com/SyPFCYY.jpg | 23:05 |
| drleviathan | brb | 23:06 |
| xubuntu72w | ah - | 23:06 |
| xubuntu72w | thinking | 23:07 |
| galacticaboy | So could I just create a new user... make that one the main user and get rid of my old david? | 23:07 |
| galacticaboy | Would that work since I can log in with my test user | 23:07 |
| xubuntu72w | yes. Probably. But hang on.... | 23:08 |
| galacticaboy | Ok | 23:08 |
| xubuntu72w | on my system, my . directory is owned by my user, on yours it's owned by root. That means probably that it can't be written to by your user. | 23:08 |
| xubuntu72w | Lets try changing that, and try again. | 23:09 |
| galacticaboy | Okay | 23:09 |
| xubuntu72w | your user is david? | 23:09 |
| xubuntu72w | if so | 23:09 |
| galacticaboy | Yes | 23:09 |
| xubuntu72w | sudo chown -r david:david /home/david | 23:09 |
| xubuntu72w | which changes ownership to user david group david of the directory home/david and all it's contained files | 23:10 |
| galacticaboy | Invalid option —r | 23:10 |
| xubuntu72w | try -R | 23:11 |
| xubuntu72w | in the same command | 23:11 |
| xubuntu72w | instead of -r | 23:11 |
| galacticaboy | Ok that worked | 23:11 |
| chomwitt | no video input , enter sleep mode!! | 23:11 |
| chomwitt | in a freshly installed system after 5-10 minutes pc powers down! | 23:11 |
| xubuntu72w | @galacticaboy, ctrl-alt-f7 back to the login screen. Pick David from the combo box, type your password then "login"button | 23:12 |
| xubuntu72w | ... | 23:12 |
| xubuntu72w | then do the ls -lart ~/ thing again in ctrl-alt-f1 terminal | 23:13 |
| galacticaboy | https://i.imgur.com/luDbLpR.jpg | 23:13 |
| galacticaboy | Well I’m in | 23:13 |
| xubuntu72w | @chomwitt. There's a power symbol on the top bar usually if you can see that. That can change the power saving options, | 23:14 |
| galacticaboy | https://i.imgur.com/lsbOsm0.jpg | 23:14 |
| xubuntu72w | Hang on, when you say you're in, does that mean that you could log in on the greeter OK? | 23:14 |
| xubuntu72w | As David | 23:15 |
| xubuntu72w | ? | 23:15 |
| galacticaboy | Yes it does! I mean my desktop and stuff it all reset back to the way it looks during a fresh install but all my stuff is there as David | 23:15 |
| xubuntu72w | OK. | 23:15 |
| xubuntu72w | SO | 23:15 |
| galacticaboy | How do I confirm that everything is good? | 23:16 |
| xubuntu72w | That looks like there is a permissions issue the files in your original home directory | 23:16 |
| xubuntu72w | This is what @drleviathan was suggesting to me way back when! | 23:16 |
| galacticaboy | Lol so am I good or do we have more steps? | 23:17 |
| xubuntu72w | I am doing this on a small screen via a web interface. I can only see one screen's worth and can't scroll back | 23:17 |
| xubuntu72w | (more steps) | 23:17 |
| chomwitt | xubuntu72w: ok , i opened it | 23:17 |
| galacticaboy | Okay then I’m ready | 23:17 |
| xubuntu72w | @chomwit i think it's quite simple usually, increase the times on the sliders to an hour or so, or untick go to sleep or something like that? | 23:18 |
| xubuntu72w | @galacticaboy, can you scroll back through the conversation? | 23:18 |
| galacticaboy | Yes I can | 23:19 |
| chomwitt | xubuntu72w: ok i move all sliders to 60 minutes.. i'll wait .. | 23:19 |
| xubuntu72w | @chomwitt. Good luck :-) | 23:19 |
| xubuntu72w | @galacticaboy, find where we backed up your directory. Please paste it back here so I can see. It was the line with semicolons on it ; cd /home or something like that | 23:20 |
| chomwitt | xubuntu72w: thanks | 23:20 |
| galacticaboy | https://i.imgur.com/dh3lstH.jpg | 23:22 |
| galacticaboy | This one? | 23:22 |
| xubuntu72w | yep | 23:23 |
| xubuntu72w | ok | 23:23 |
| xubuntu72w | first, go back to ctrl-alt-f7. click on menu button top left. press the button at the bottom right of that box and choose logout | 23:24 |
| xubuntu72w | that should take you back to the greeter screen | 23:25 |
| galacticaboy | Yep | 23:26 |
| xubuntu72w | OK ctrl-alt-f1 back to terminal | 23:26 |
| galacticaboy | Ok | 23:26 |
| xubuntu72w | get this 100% right! | 23:27 |
| galacticaboy | Yes sir | 23:27 |
| xubuntu72w | sudo rm -r /home/david | 23:27 |
| xubuntu72w | removes the new david home directory | 23:27 |
| galacticaboy | Sudo rm -r /home/David | 23:28 |
| xubuntu72w | ok, so lets do | 23:28 |
| galacticaboy | Did it | 23:28 |
| xubuntu72w | sudo ls -al /home | 23:28 |
| xubuntu72w | should have an oldDavid directory | 23:29 |
| galacticaboy | Yes it does | 23:29 |
| xubuntu72w | ok | 23:29 |
| xubuntu72w | sudo mkdir /home/david | 23:30 |
| drleviathan | oh right, we forgot to chown the new dir | 23:30 |
| xubuntu72w | yes, but we'll copy the old files in first, then chown them all | 23:30 |
| xubuntu72w | so if you | 23:31 |
| drleviathan | but the reason it was failing after we created it was that the perms were wrong | 23:31 |
| * drleviathan is xpurt | 23:31 | |
| xubuntu72w | @drleviathan, yes, sorry I thought you were galacitaboy, you are an expert? | 23:31 |
| xubuntu72w | @drleviathan, can I leave this with you now? | 23:32 |
| galacticaboy | Did it | 23:32 |
| drleviathan | I was joking. Making fun of my own mistakes. | 23:32 |
| xubuntu72w | need to copy the files from /home/oldDavid to /home/david, then chown -R all of them, then test it. | 23:33 |
| galacticaboy | How do I do that? | 23:33 |
| galacticaboy | Sorry terminal illiterate | 23:33 |
| xubuntu72w | sorry @galacticaboy, that was @drleviathan. | 23:34 |
| xubuntu72w | we shall... | 23:34 |
| xubuntu72w | sudo cp -a /home/oldDavid/* /home/david/* | 23:34 |
| chomwitt | xubuntu72w: .. sth else is happening.. still powered down | 23:34 |
| xubuntu72w | @chomwitt, look for screensaver in the menus, could be xscreensaver, or LightLocker. Try turning it off. | 23:35 |
| galacticaboy | Co | 23:35 |
| xubuntu72w | ?co?? | 23:35 |
| galacticaboy | Cp: target ‘/home/david* is not a directory | 23:36 |
| galacticaboy | Sorry didn’t mean to hit send on co | 23:36 |
| xubuntu72w | did you miss off the / before the final *? | 23:36 |
| chomwitt | xubuntu72w: its a new case with an old mobo , mini-itx .. i wonder if there is heat buildup cause i removed a case fan | 23:36 |
| xubuntu72w | @chomwitt, sorry I assumed that what you were seeing was power saving. Can you wake up the machine by pressing a key or moving the mouse? Is so, then it's power saving, if it's switching off, it could be Overheat-shutdown. | 23:38 |
| chomwitt | xubuntu72w: no i cant wake the machine up | 23:38 |
| xubuntu72w | @chomwitt then if it's easy, try putting the fan back and see if it still happens! | 23:39 |
| xubuntu72w | @galactocaboy, still there? | 23:39 |
| galacticaboy | Yes it says /home/david/* is not a directory | 23:40 |
| xubuntu72w | ok, try | 23:40 |
| xubuntu72w | sudo cp -a /home/oldDavid/* /home/david | 23:41 |
| xubuntu72w | which is the same thing without the final /* | 23:41 |
| galacticaboy | It seems to be taking its sweet time | 23:43 |
| galacticaboy | Ok it’s done | 23:43 |
| xubuntu72w | Could do. Could be lots of files | 23:43 |
| xubuntu72w | OK, what we have now is /home/oldDavid with all your original files with their original permissions | 23:43 |
| xubuntu72w | and we have a copy of them in /home/david. We will now try changing the file permissions so that they are all owned by user david | 23:44 |
| xubuntu72w | so | 23:44 |
| galacticaboy | Okay | 23:44 |
| xubuntu72w | sudo chown -R david:david /home/david | 23:44 |
| galacticaboy | Ok | 23:45 |
| xubuntu72w | could you do a ls -al /home/david for me please & picture it? | 23:45 |
| galacticaboy | https://i.imgur.com/RgRYRJE.jpg | 23:46 |
| xubuntu72w | Great. ctrl-alt-f7. Try and login as david | 23:47 |
| galacticaboy | https://i.imgur.com/xbGnLkS.jpg | 23:49 |
| galacticaboy | Omg Yass! Im in and back! | 23:49 |
| xubuntu72w | YAY! WOOT WOOT WOOT! | 23:49 |
| galacticaboy | Thank you so much guys!! | 23:49 |
| xubuntu72w | OK, before you go. | 23:49 |
| galacticaboy | Okay | 23:50 |
| xubuntu72w | you have the new test user that we created, you can delete that and the home directory for it, if you want, but it won't take up much space | 23:50 |
| galacticaboy | Okay I’ll probably just delete it | 23:50 |
| drleviathan | yay! | 23:50 |
| xubuntu72w | BUT, more significantly, you have /home/oldDavid which is a complete copy of every file that was in your home directory, which may contain music files, browsing history, documents etc etc etc. | 23:51 |
| galacticaboy | Can that be deleted | 23:51 |
| xubuntu72w | the fact that it took an age to copy suggest that there are lots of files there | 23:51 |
| xubuntu72w | What I was going to suggest is that you leave it there, until you are sure that EVERTHING works. | 23:52 |
| xubuntu72w | Once you're happy, delete it. | 23:52 |
| galacticaboy | Okay will do that then | 23:52 |
| xubuntu72w | If you're not happy, or something doesn't work, you still have the original. | 23:52 |
| galacticaboy | Thanks for spending an hour and a half, almost 2 working on this! I really appreciate the help :) | 23:52 |
| xubuntu72w | That said, the ONLY difference between the files in /home/oldDavid and /home/david at the moment, is that some of the oldDavid files are not owned by user david in group david. | 23:53 |
| galacticaboy | Will that be much of a problem? | 23:53 |
| xubuntu72w | No, it's not a problem, I'm just saying that there's hardly any difference. So it is very likely that everything will work. But if it doesn't, you can refer to the oldDavid directory. | 23:54 |
| xubuntu72w | Are you short of disk space on this machine? | 23:54 |
| xubuntu72w | If not, leave it a while, delete when you're happy. | 23:55 |
| galacticaboy | No it’s 500gb and I have 520 free so I’m good lol | 23:55 |
| xubuntu72w | OK. | 23:55 |
| xubuntu72w | @galacticaboy glad I could help. | 23:55 |
| galacticaboy | Again thanks I appreciate it, jebus I need a drink after all that | 23:55 |
| xubuntu72w | Paying forward in return for the help from @drleviathan - thanks for helping me :-) | 23:56 |
| david_ | galacticaboy stiell her | 23:56 |
| david_ | just on the lappwy no | 23:56 |
| === david_ is now known as galacticaboy | ||
| galacticaboy | there we go | 23:56 |
| galacticaboy | yes both of you were huge helps | 23:56 |
| drleviathan | maybe we should recommend that users NOT try to "dist upgrade" from LTS to 17.10 | 23:56 |
| xubuntu72w | YAY. | 23:56 |
| xubuntu72w | @drleviathan, GOSH YES!!!!!!!!!!! | 23:57 |
| xubuntu72w | @drleviathan, thank you so much for your help. @galacticaboy, glad you're sorted. | 23:57 |
| knome | drleviathan, it's already kind of recommended... | 23:57 |
| galacticaboy | yes @drleviathan i would say that... lets not do that again | 23:58 |
| drleviathan | we all learned something today | 23:58 |
| xubuntu72w | I went into Software source, changed it from LTS to all updates. Then I went into Software updater. It said "There's a new version available" and offered to take me straight from 16.04 to 17.10. It might be better to make that a bit smarter so that it doesn't skip intermediate versions. | 23:59 |
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