| IrcsomeBot1 | <nggraham> Question. I already filed a launchpad task for this packaging work that only bebefits Kubuntu: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+bug/1715213 | 01:02 |
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| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1715213 in firefox (Ubuntu) "Adopt openSUSE patch that adds high-res icons for Firefox, so the Large Icons task switcher in KDE Plasma doesn't have an ugly Firefox icon" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 01:02 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <nggraham> there hasn't been much movement on it. Should we file a separate task to do this only for Kubuntu, or push on the upstream Launchpad task? | 01:02 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <nggraham> (and its companion https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mozilla-thunderbird/+bug/1715214) | 01:02 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1715214 in mozilla-thunderbird (Ubuntu) "Adopt openSUSE patch that adds high-res icons for Thunderbird, so the Large Icons task switcher in KDE Plasma doesn't have an ugly Thunderbird icon" [Undecided,New] | 01:02 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <nggraham> either way, if we need a Kubuntu-specific task, I filed https://phabricator.kde.org/T7863. If we don't need that, feel free to close it | 01:05 |
| valorie | finally replied to the rest of your email too, @nggraham which includes that | 01:08 |
| valorie | now: dinner! | 01:08 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <nggraham> fantastic, thanks! | 01:08 |
| wxl | um | 01:38 |
| wxl | why does the non-free checkbox in ubiquity install kubuntu-restricted-ADDONS and not -extras? | 01:38 |
| wxl | i mean i guess when a user wants nonfree stuff, we should make sure they only get just a taste of it? i fail to see the logic but here's the basis https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/643614 | 01:42 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 643614 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "KDE frontend installs kubuntu-restricted-extras" [Critical,Fix released] | 01:42 |
| valorie | huh | 01:45 |
| valorie | I would want both | 01:45 |
| wxl | exactly | 01:45 |
| wxl | i'm not one to question riddell's logic but here... maybbbeeeeee...... | 01:46 |
| valorie | huh | 01:46 |
| wxl | what's weird is that looking at ubiquity, kubuntu is the only one that uses a separate -restricted package even though there are lubuntu and xubuntu ones | 01:47 |
| wxl | which is also very weird | 01:47 |
| valorie | this explains why a few years back in amarok all of a sudden all *buntu users were complaining that they couldn't play mp3 files | 01:47 |
| wxl | mind you, what i said above ONLY relates to kubuntu | 01:47 |
| wxl | oh wait | 01:47 |
| wxl | i take it back | 01:47 |
| wxl | everyone else gets ubutnu-restricted-addons | 01:48 |
| valorie | dunno how many people continue to play mp3 from their HD any more | 01:48 |
| wxl | which is also really freakingw eird | 01:48 |
| valorie | what does ubuntu-restricted-addons add that ours doesn't and vice-versa? | 01:49 |
| valorie | if they are the same, we should just use that package | 01:49 |
| valorie | why keep our own? | 01:49 |
| * wxl shrugs | 01:49 | |
| wxl | i guess it makes sense for lubuntu but i don't know about anyone else | 01:50 |
| wxl | unless there's some weird reverse depends | 01:50 |
| wxl | https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=-restricted- | 01:50 |
| valorie | what makes sense? | 01:50 |
| wxl | it makes sense for lubuntu to have smoething different | 01:50 |
| wxl | since we're all abotu as little as possible | 01:50 |
| wxl | extras ALSO has lame in kubuntu | 01:51 |
| valorie | what I mean is what is the actual difference? | 01:52 |
| wxl | i don't know that THAT is much | 01:52 |
| valorie | and is it worthwhile to continue to support that | 01:52 |
| wxl | it adds the mp3 | 01:53 |
| valorie | and ubuntu does not? | 01:53 |
| wxl | right | 01:53 |
| valorie | so how do vanilla ubuntu people listen to mp3? | 01:53 |
| wxl | i don't understand the lame thing | 01:54 |
| valorie | I thought lame was about encoding | 01:54 |
| wxl | it looks like libmp3lame0 is already in libavcodec-extra57 | 01:54 |
| valorie | but -- no expert here either | 01:54 |
| wxl | you're right | 01:54 |
| wxl | the LAME package is actually a front end i think | 01:54 |
| wxl | yep | 01:55 |
| wxl | so that's dumb | 01:55 |
| wxl | kubuntu also includes two packages that say they're not available, so that's broken | 01:55 |
| wxl | adobe-flashplugin | 01:55 |
| wxl | libk3b6-extracodecs | 01:55 |
| wxl | gosh i'm surprised people aren't complaining about this | 01:56 |
| wxl | it also includes gnash, the swf player for ppc64el only hahahahahah weird | 01:56 |
| wxl | kubuntu also has gstreamer1.0-plugins-bad (both have -ugly) | 01:58 |
| nauticalnexus | I have ppc64 :3 | 01:58 |
| wxl | ubuntu also has gstreamer1.0-vaapi and gstreamer1.0-fluendo-mp3 | 01:58 |
| wxl | see bug 1090671 | 02:00 |
| ubottu | bug 1090671 in ubuntu-restricted-addons (Ubuntu) "Add GStreamer 1.0 recommends" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1090671 | 02:00 |
| wxl | oh wait | 02:00 |
| wxl | i don't know what's up with that | 02:01 |
| wxl | changelog makes a reference to that which seems weird | 02:01 |
| wxl | anyways the last change dropped adobe flash "as it will be EOL before end of next LTS" | 02:02 |
| wxl | at that time they also dropped -bad and added -vaapi | 02:05 |
| wxl | not sure why actly | 02:05 |
| valorie | wxl: are you willing to open a phab task about looking at this? | 02:06 |
| valorie | I see that almost everyone has their own but I've never understood why | 02:06 |
| wxl | yeah not right now but yes | 02:06 |
| nauticalnexus | valorie, do you know if they're gonna drop ppc support with bionic | 02:06 |
| wxl | they're not | 02:06 |
| wxl | watch debian | 02:06 |
| nauticalnexus | Not el | 02:06 |
| nauticalnexus | Er, ppc64el | 02:07 |
| wxl | they're more likely to keep el | 02:07 |
| nauticalnexus | I mean like, G5 | 02:07 |
| nauticalnexus | I require ppc support. | 02:07 |
| wxl | innit that just ppc? | 02:07 |
| nauticalnexus | Yes. | 02:07 |
| wxl | right. | 02:07 |
| nauticalnexus | Well, it's 64-bit ppc | 02:07 |
| wxl | which is not ppc64el | 02:07 |
| nauticalnexus | No | 02:07 |
| nauticalnexus | It's big endian. | 02:07 |
| nauticalnexus | I found that out the hard way.. heh.. | 02:08 |
| wxl | right | 02:08 |
| wxl | so afaik ppc is going to remain | 02:08 |
| nauticalnexus | *buntu is the only distro I've used with G5 support. | 02:08 |
| nauticalnexus | I'd hate if they dropped it. | 02:08 |
| wxl | it WILL go away | 02:08 |
| valorie | fedora doesn't? | 02:08 |
| wxl | and it will be in a near-ish future | 02:08 |
| nauticalnexus | valorie, their iso doesn't have the required stuff for my Mac | 02:09 |
| wxl | i bet freebsd supports it XD | 02:09 |
| valorie | I wonder what the support window is for 18.04 | 02:09 |
| nauticalnexus | wxl probably lol | 02:09 |
| wxl | support window? you didn't hear we were going rolling? | 02:10 |
| nauticalnexus | lmao | 02:10 |
| * wxl starts rumours; internet explodes | 02:10 | |
| nauticalnexus | Don't go all Arch on us now ;P | 02:10 |
| valorie | wxl: hush sir! | 02:11 |
| nauticalnexus | lol | 02:11 |
| wxl | on that note i'm going home :) | 02:12 |
| nauticalnexus | alright | 02:12 |
| valorie | nites wxl | 02:12 |
| valorie | err, niters | 02:12 |
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| BluesKaj | Hi folks | 12:17 |
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| acheronuk | wgrant: hi. as discussed the other day, could you please bump the build score bomnus of these staging ppas?; | 20:43 |
| acheronuk | ppa:kubuntu-ppa/staging-frameworks | 20:43 |
| acheronuk | ppa:kubuntu-ppa/staging-plasma | 20:43 |
| acheronuk | ppa:kubuntu-ppa/staging-kdeapplications | 20:43 |
| acheronuk | ppa:kubuntu-ppa/staging-misc | 20:43 |
| acheronuk | . | 20:43 |
| acheronuk | also useful if possible would be ppa:kubuntu-ninjas/plasma | 20:43 |
| acheronuk | as that is handy when there is some danger of unstream tarball respins, but want to get a march on test builds during the time between release to packagers and final release | 20:43 |
| valorie | :-) | 20:55 |
| wgrant | acheronuk: Done! | 21:37 |
| acheronuk | wgrant: much appreciated :) | 21:38 |
| valorie | \o/ | 21:41 |
| valorie | thank you wgrant | 21:41 |
| genii | Is it normal behaviour that Discover doesn't find the names of packages which are in PPAs ? | 23:05 |
| genii | (Actually sorry, in this case, not a PPA but Google's repository for Chrome ) | 23:05 |
| valorie | genii: I think you have to enable "parters" repo | 23:14 |
| valorie | partners | 23:14 |
| genii | It's enabled :-/ | 23:14 |
| valorie | hmmm | 23:14 |
| genii | The only ones which are not are all the deb-src ones | 23:15 |
| genii | Maybe because no "xenial" ? deb [arch=amd64] http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main | 23:16 |
| genii | ( is the only line in there ) | 23:17 |
| valorie | if you search for google-chrome is it found? | 23:17 |
| valorie | !info google-chrome | 23:17 |
| ubottu | Package google-chrome does not exist in bionic | 23:17 |
| valorie | !info google-chrome xenial | 23:18 |
| ubottu | Package google-chrome does not exist in xenial | 23:18 |
| genii | Nope, tried that already... | 23:21 |
| valorie | this is why I don't use software stores, tbh | 23:21 |
| genii | But whats weird is I already have it installed, and it doesn't show there either | 23:21 |
| valorie | I suppose buffing up appstream will help | 23:22 |
| valorie | me too | 23:22 |
| valorie | although now I use falkon full-time \o/ | 23:22 |
| acheronuk | genii: no appstream data> | 23:22 |
| genii | Hm | 23:22 |
| acheronuk | probably | 23:22 |
| genii | I've set up a dual-boot for my friend with everything working to sync now between Windows and Kubuntu. But Discover can't find stuff and she's hopeless with CLI ... | 23:23 |
| valorie | muon is better imo | 23:24 |
| genii | Hm, let me see if that sees PPA/weird repo things | 23:24 |
| genii | She's a very visual person and a bit dyslexic so I'm trying to make things as simple for her as possible | 23:25 |
| genii | BTW whoever it is that knows the KDE Connect guy please thank him for letting it be able to use Google Voice as a keyboard... | 23:26 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <nggraham> Discover only finds apps, not packages. It has to have appstream data | 23:26 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <nggraham> so if it can't find Chrome or Chromium, that's their fault for not providing appstream data, or your fault for not making it available in the packaging | 23:27 |
| genii | Maybe I'll file a bug with Google then for them to add it | 23:27 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <nggraham> FYI I am very interested in hearing honest, unvarnished opinions about Discover so we can improve it | 23:27 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <nggraham> I know for a fact that Chromium shows up in Discover FWIW | 23:28 |
| valorie | it is getting better | 23:28 |
| valorie | doesn't crash all the time | 23:28 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <nggraham> you don't have to sugar-coat things; I have a thick skin :) | 23:28 |
| valorie | updater now works, and I usually use that when it prompts me | 23:28 |
| valorie | rather than the cli | 23:28 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <nggraham> it's even better in 5.12 now | 23:28 |
| valorie | I mean, there is nothing simpler than up-arrow in yakuake | 23:29 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <nggraham> IMHO the 5.11 version was still really rough compared to how we've gotten it now | 23:29 |
| valorie | amen to that | 23:29 |
| valorie | but chrome not being found sucks a bit | 23:29 |
| valorie | we know how to find it, but the new person doesn't | 23:29 |
| genii | Yeah, muon looks doable, thanks | 23:29 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <nggraham> what repo is chrome available in? I can take a look | 23:30 |
| valorie | I like having more info, so I use muon for that if I don't remember the cli commands | 23:30 |
| valorie | 'deb [arch=amd64] http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main' | 23:31 |
| valorie | https://askubuntu.com/questions/510056/how-to-install-google-chrome | 23:31 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <nggraham> so that's a pretty horrible user experience quite aside from what Discover does.It looks like the saner way to do it is to download the .deb from their website | 23:39 |
| valorie | agreed | 23:40 |
| valorie | I do get updates though | 23:40 |
| valorie | just got one | 23:40 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <nggraham> and yes, once I add the repo, Chrome still isn't available in Discover, because they don't provide Appstream data for it | 23:40 |
| valorie | so *something* works | 23:40 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <nggraham> so this is basically 100% on Google | 23:40 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <nggraham> $ appstreamcli search chrome … Unable to find component matching chrome! | 23:41 |
| IrcsomeBot1 | <nggraham> 👎 | 23:41 |
| valorie | I wonder if win/mac use anything like appstream | 23:52 |
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