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kernelpanicHello everyone! I'm using overlayroot, so my rootfs is mounted ro in /media/root-ro/. When I do want to make changes, I do "mount -o remount,rw /media/root-ro/" and make changes below that folder. Recently, that stopped working and I now have to enter "mount -o remount,rw /media/root-ro" (note no ending slash) to make it work. Can anybody please help me figure out why this changed?00:04
realiesrunning the script says Warning: Unable to open /dev/sr0 read-write (Read-only file system).  /dev/sr0 has been opened read-only.00:04
underd0grealies: sudo?00:05
realiesunderd0g, running as #00:05
jk^hi all, during lubuntu's installation i checked just "Install update"00:06
Jordan_Ukernelpanic: Please pastebin the contents of /proc/self/mounts before and after remounting rw.00:07
naccrealies: why are you tryingn to open  a disc drive as rw?00:07
jk^https://goo.gl/images/sJ3f2J how to install third-part software later? when operating system is installed?00:07
realiesnacc, trying to resize my root partition to max vdisk size00:08
TJ-realies: sorry, was away. If the 'disk' is GPT labelled you first need to relocate the secondary/backup GPT to end of disk, easiest to do that using "sgdisk -e /dev/vda"00:08
naccrealies: that is unlikely to be sr000:08
TJ-realies: GPT installs master at start of disk, and secondary at end of disk. When you enlarge the enclosing file you have to first relocate the secondary to the new end of disk00:09
realiesTJ-, https://dpaste.de/ocrk/raw00:09
realiesi guess it's time for pvresize > lvextend > resize2fs00:09
TJ-realies: right, so now do "partprobe /dev/vda"00:09
TJ-realies: no, we've still got to resize partition 3 :)00:10
realiesno output of partprobe TJ-00:10
Bashing-om!info ubuntu-restricted-extras | jk^00:10
ubottujk^: ubuntu-restricted-extras (source: ubuntu-restricted-extras): Commonly used media codecs and fonts for Ubuntu. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 66 (artful), package size 3 kB, installed size 14 kB00:10
TJ-realies: that means it worked :) now we need to resize: Try "parted /dev/vda unit s resizepart 3 -1"00:11
kernelpanicJordan_U, thanks! https://pastebin.com/31ZXG35L00:11
realiesparted: invalid option -- '1'00:11
TJ-realies: sorry! my fault00:11
TJ-realies:  Try "parted /dev/vda -- unit s resizepart 3 -1"00:11
kernelpanicJordan_U, shows using trailing slash unsuccessfully first, then working without trailing slash. Its /dev/sda200:11
realiesError: Unable to satisfy all constraints on the partition.00:11
TJ-realies: we have to insert -- to prevent -1 later being interpreted as an option00:11
TJ-realies: grrr!00:12
jk^Bashing-om, i don't understand what i have to do :(00:12
TJ-realies: give me a moment I'll try it here on a loop device00:12
Bashing-omjk^: If it is your desire to install these propritary packages then ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt install ubuntu-restricted-extras ' .00:13
jk^Bashing-om, is there a gui way?00:14
jk^:\00:14
jk^pls00:14
realiesTJ-, is -1 implying max sector size?00:15
Bashing-omjk^: I am sure there is .. depending on your DE .. I do not run a GUI so can not advise .00:15
jk^Bashing-om, i use lubuntu00:17
TJ-realies: sorted it... -1 is a count from end-of-disk. Seeing as parted knows there's a 34-sector secondary GPT header I /assumed/ it'd calculate -1 from the end of free space, but it doesn't! This worked for me: "parted /dev/vda -- unit s resizepart 3 -35"00:21
realiesok, so Information: You may need to update /etc/fstab.00:21
realies mount -a?00:22
TJ-realies: if that works you'll need to do "partprobe /dev/vda" to ensure the kernel knows about it, then - finally - "pvresize /dev/vda3; lvextend -l 100%FREE /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root; resize2fs /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root; df"00:23
realiesNew size given (2560 extents) not larger than existing size (3846 extents) Run `lvextend --help' for more information.00:25
TJ-realies: oh darn, I missed out a + symbol in front of the 100%FREE00:25
kernelpanicJordan_U, any hint for me?00:25
realiesoh :) yes00:25
TJ-realies: "lvextend -l +100%FREE /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root; resize2fs /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root; df"00:25
realiesTJ- it worked :o00:26
TJ-realies: Finally :P00:26
realiesty so much00:26
realiesthat was a lot harder than i anticipated00:26
TJ-realies: it's an operation no-one does frequently enough to remember00:27
TJ-realies: parted is clever and ultra-dumb at the wrong times, unfortunately00:28
realiesTJ-, not even sure of the correct order of things anymore... :)00:34
realieswhy is it not documented somewhere online?00:35
kenrinI'm sure it is00:36
TJ-realies: It's fallocate -l ???G /path/to/image; then in VM "sgisk -e /dev/vda; parted /dev/vda -- unit s resizepart 3 -35; pvresize /dev/vda3; lvextend ... LV; resize2fs LV"00:36
TJ-s/sgisk/sgdisk/00:37
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realiesso: sgdisk -e /dev/vda && parted /dev/vda -- unit s resizepart 3 -35 && pvresize /dev/vda3 && lvextend -l +100%FREE /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root && resize2fs /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root && df -h00:43
realiesbefore which qemu-img resize vmdisk.img +10G00:43
TJ-realies: something like that :P00:44
realiesqemu-img resize vs fallocate -l?00:46
TJ-realies: qemu if you're using qemu format images (such as qcow2)00:52
TJ-realies: I just used fallocate for testing here00:52
Hitechcgis https://www.ubuntu.com/ down for everyone or just me? I get "503 Service Unavailable"00:53
kenrinLooks dead00:53
realiesTJ-, thanks a ton!00:54
kenrinThe load balancer is still up00:54
KelAnyone experiencing a higher than usual occurence of Byobu crashing?00:59
TJ-Hitechcg: sysadmins are working on the 503 issues01:15
i486what happened TJ- ?01:18
uzumakii am new to linux. i have cloned an open source project from git in c++ can someone help me with how to start working on that project as i have always used IDE on windows before.01:19
TJ-i486: no information currently, but it's being dealt with01:19
i486TJ- what broke?01:20
TJ-Welcome uzumaki01:20
uzumakihey TJ :D01:21
TJ-uzumaki: if you've cloned a project the 1st thing is to change into the project directory. If you did, for example, git clone https://domain.com/project.git you'll have a new directory "project" so "cd project" then list the files there with "ls -al"01:21
TJ-uzumaki: All terminal/shell commands on Linux are CaSe SeNsItIvE and almost all commands are all lower case01:22
TJ-uzumaki: file and directory names are also case sensitive on almost all file-systems, except for NTFS and vfat/exfat01:23
uzumakii am familiar with basic command line so i have no problem in that actually i was hoping to find help with compiling and starting applications and cpp files01:23
TJ-uzumaki: well, that is usually very project-specific. It depends on which build tooling the project's developers chose01:24
uzumakiand how to @ any specific person in IRC? lol i am new to IRC too01:24
TJ-uzumaki: usually there'll be a README file in the root of project with some details01:25
TJ-uzumaki: tab-completion for names in most IRC clients01:25
uzumakiTJ- thanks i'll look into it01:26
TJ-uzumaki: as I said in the sysadmin channel, ##programmers and/or ##c++ might help as well01:27
TJ-uzumaki: ooops, typo!  ##programming01:27
uzumakisure, i'll join them all too01:28
catsoesh_Hi!01:32
catsoesh_:/exit01:32
douxCan chroot mount its own boot partition?01:35
douxI mean, can you chroot into an installation and mount that installation's boot partition?01:36
douxin chroot01:36
doux?01:36
TJ-doux: Yes01:38
douxTJ-: thanks01:38
TJ-doux: the usual way to do it is to mount the rootfs to the chroot directory, bind-mount proc sys dev dev/pts, chroot /target and "mount -a" to read and automount from fstab01:38
douxTJ-: ah, a little more complicated than just chrooting in...01:39
TJ-doux: e.g. "sudo mkdir /target; sudo mount /dev/sda3 /target; for n in proc sys dev dev/pts; do sudo mount --bind /$n /target/$n; done; sudo chroot /target" then "mount -a" and do what you need to do01:40
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douxTJ-: Thanks for that!01:41
catsoesh_hello02:16
uzumakihello02:17
i486Hi02:17
ganbathi all02:20
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gioanhello02:26
gioani am a new ubuntu02:26
i486hi02:27
zhenglingwuexit02:27
i486you need any help?02:27
gioani want to change themes and icon MacOS on my ubuntu, what i to do?02:27
cuddlesquidi thought he was telling someone else to exit.. looks like he misstyped /exit ;d02:28
i486^^^ lmao02:29
zhenglingwuexit02:29
ganbathow to wifi adapter insatlling help me02:29
cuddlesquidhaha02:29
kenrinDid you download a theme and put it in your folder ?  If so just open tweak tool and select02:30
cuddlesquidganbat: normally your wifi adapter is already configurd with ubuntu02:30
gioani want to .sh run02:30
gioanrun auto with terminal02:30
kenrinI can't decipher that02:30
jenniei tried transfering 4000bytes from unix host to windows host using TFTP using netascii mode. File trasnfer was successful but windows host is reporting file size as 4050bytes, why?02:31
cuddlesquidgioan: would crontab help you in that situation?02:31
masbergood afternoon, I have a problem were collectl is not picking up my nvme drives02:31
gioan2 year ago i can changes anythings with .sh file02:31
masberany idea?02:32
gioanwhat is crontab ?02:32
ganbatcuddlesquid tl-wn8200nd02:32
gioanplease further crontab information02:33
cuddlesquidgioan: its a job scheduler, you said you wanted auto start .sh script right?02:33
gioanyes02:33
ganbathow to tl-wn8200nd insatlling02:33
cuddlesquidganbat: its been a while since ive actually installed wifi adapters, ubuntu should already configure for one like that, a tp-link, what version of ubuntu are you using...02:34
gioan.sh file of MACOS themes and icon for ubuntu 16.0402:34
cuddlesquiddid you check to make sure tl-wn8200nd is supported by linux ?02:34
cuddlesquidgioan: i dont know anyting about mac.. sorry02:34
kenrinWhat does the .sh file do ?  Does it just unpack into theme dir ?02:35
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kenrinRunning random scripts is pretty sketchy.  There is plenty of legitimate PPAs for macbuntu themes02:37
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masberno one? I don't have this issue on centos so this is a ubuntu config thing02:53
Howie69Missed the question02:54
masberHowie69, https://askubuntu.com/questions/1002242/collectl-is-not-recognising-my-nvme-drives02:54
Howie69Is md running?02:56
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Howie69iirc, there used to be a mdstat command or maybe /proc/mdstat or /proc/mdstatus02:57
Howie69(cat those)02:57
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lordcirth_masber, --dskfilt might be relevant02:58
Howie69Yep.  I'm rusty.02:58
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lordcirthmasber, there's a guy here who implies that setting collectl.conf fixes it: https://sourceforge.net/p/collectl/discussion/696865/thread/24979ba5/02:59
masberlordcirth_, yes I saw that they didn't specify which fixes... I also checked collectl documentation about the config file and could not find anything03:00
masberlordcirth, I also tried collectl -sD --dskfilt nvme0n1 which didn't work03:00
masberlordcirth, this works in centos out of the box. I checked the configuration files and they both same on ubuntu and centos03:03
masberso it has to be something else03:03
masbersomething specific in ubuntu03:03
lordcirthmasber, is the version of collectl the same?03:04
masbergood point, let me check03:04
Howie69lordcirth: beat me to it03:04
masbercentos --> collectl V4.3.0-1 (zlib:2.061,HiRes:1.9725) : ubuntu --> collectl V4.0.4-1 (zlib:2.068,HiRes:1.9726) so ubuntu is slightly more recent03:05
masberah no sorry03:05
masbercentos is more recent03:05
masberthat may explain03:06
Howie69masber: upgrade to 17.1003:06
TJ-masber: try adding this line to /etc/collectl.conf   DiskFilter = /cciss/c\d+d\d+ |hd[ab] | sd[a-z]+ |dm-\d+ |xvd[a-z] |fio[a-z]+ | vd[a-z]+ |emcpower[a-z]+ |psv\d+ |nvme\d+n\d /03:08
masberTJ-, no luck03:10
masberTJ-, sorry it works!03:11
TJ-masber: right; it needed the |nvme\d+n\d / pattern match to match the device naming in /proc/diskstats03:11
masberyep03:13
masberI hate performance tests!03:13
totalconfusion42Hey #ubuntu . I'm having a problem that's making me tear my hair out. It seems like my update server or PPA list is broken. I get the error "Data from such a repository can't be authenticated and is therefore potentially dangerous to use." when I run sudo apt-get update . I've tried deleting everything in /etc/apt/sources.list.d . I've also tried running the command sudo rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists/* . Nothing works. When "Be03:31
lotuspsychje!ppapurge | totalconfusion4203:32
ubottutotalconfusion42: To disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html03:32
lotuspsychjetotalconfusion42: wich ubuntu version are you on, and what kind of ppa's did you add to your system?03:32
funyunhi. i am running ubuntu on a proxmox vm. everytime i reboot the vm, i have to edit /etc/resolv.conf from 127.0.0.53 to 8.8.8.8. is this a ubuntu or proxmox problem? if ubuntu, anyone know how to solve it?03:34
naccfunyun: the former is sytemd-resolved03:34
naccfunyun: you don't need to change it each time03:34
naccfunyun: and i believe you can tell systemd-resolved to use 8.8.8.803:35
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totalconfusion42lotuspsychje: thanks for the help! I've recently installed google-chrome-stable then tried to install deluge torrent client, so I'm guessing one of those two broke it. Before that I've had Ethereum wallet's PPA not much more. It's a pretty recent system for me03:39
totalconfusion42lotuspsychje: what is !ppapurge03:39
totalconfusion42is that a command?03:39
totalconfusion42lotuspsychje: I'm on the latest Ubuntu version, 17.0403:40
funyunnacc: nice. any idea how?03:41
lotuspsychjetotalconfusion42: 17.04 is end of life, you sure your not on 17.10?03:41
totalconfusion42lotuspsychje: yeah just checked03:42
totalconfusion42hmmmm, I might of used an old image03:43
totalconfusion42would that explain my ppa/update issues?03:43
totalconfusion42lotuspsychje: I'm running 16.04 on my laptop and apt-get is fine03:45
lotuspsychjetotalconfusion42: 17.04 is a non-LTS version and now end of life, meaning not supported anymore03:45
lotuspsychjetotalconfusion42: that means also repos or updates03:45
totalconfusion42lotuspsychje: is 16.04 any different?03:45
totalconfusion42lotuspsychje: how can I update my installation without formatting my computer? I'm deep in the country on a solar set up and I don't have a USB stick :/03:48
lotuspsychjetotalconfusion42: your on 17.04 or 16.04? you lost me a bit?03:49
totalconfusion42laptop is 16.04 - works fine03:49
totalconfusion42desktop has the problem and is 17.0403:50
nacctotalconfusion42: 16.04 is LTS, 17.04 is nont.03:50
nacc*not03:50
totalconfusion42ooooo03:50
totalconfusion42i see03:50
totalconfusion42so am I completely screwed without a USB stick03:50
lotuspsychjetotalconfusion42: no03:51
lotuspsychje!eolupgrade | totalconfusion4203:51
ubottutotalconfusion42: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades03:51
totalconfusion42thanks ubottu03:51
lotuspsychjetotalconfusion42: but its also risky to keep using/upgrading your existing eol system03:51
totalconfusion42it'll have to do until I'm back in the city03:52
totalconfusion42lotuspsychje:03:52
lotuspsychjetotalconfusion42: the longer you use an eol version, the more chance of security holes03:52
totalconfusion42lotuspsychje: understood03:52
totalconfusion42lotuspsychje: so what does LTS stand for?03:53
lotuspsychjetotalconfusion42: long time support03:53
totalconfusion42limited time support?03:53
totalconfusion42oh03:53
totalconfusion42ok03:53
totalconfusion42i get it03:53
trekkie1701cThe next LTS is scheduled for April I think.03:54
lotuspsychjetotalconfusion42: non-lts is 9months support, its the users choice to use lts or non-lts03:54
trekkie1701cLTS is usually best unless you need or want something bleeding edge.03:54
totalconfusion42lotuspsychje: I'll have a read of those links ubottu sent me - I guess they'll tell me how to keep this rig going03:54
trekkie1701cMy servers use LTS, desktop environments are 17.10 due to driver compatibility.03:54
nacctrekkie1701c: you can use the HWE stack for that03:55
lotuspsychjetotalconfusion42: the eolupgrade trigger, can help you still upgrade03:56
WoodpeckerI have 17.10. 3 monitors. Is it possible to have two of them mirror eachotmer?03:58
totalconfusion42lotuspsychje: I'm struggling a bit with this upgrade04:07
trekkie1701cThere's no particular way to disable nouveau on a live session, is there?04:07
totalconfusion42"sudo aptitude install update-manager-core update-manager" throws an error - sudo: aptitude: command not found04:07
trekkie1701cTry apt04:08
totalconfusion42lotuspsychje:  I'm following this article https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades#SpecificOlder04:08
totalconfusion42thanks trekkie1701c04:08
totalconfusion42hey trekkie1701c04:10
totalconfusion42I'm at the section titled "Kernal" which command do I want to run04:11
totalconfusion42trekkie1701c: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades#SpecificOlder04:11
trekkie1701cTo be honest, I'm not sure.  I've never done an EOL upgrade before04:12
trekkie1701cSorry.  :(04:12
totalconfusion42trekkie1701c: ok thanks04:12
totalconfusion42lotuspsychje: I'm at the section titled "Kernal" which command do I want to run? - This is the article I'm referencing https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades#SpecificOlder04:13
lotuspsychjetotalconfusion42: it would be better if you clean installed a supported ubuntu version from topic04:25
lotuspsychjetotalconfusion42: now you have a scrambled eol system with external ppa's that might be unsafe04:25
lotuspsychjetotalconfusion42: another way out of this, is loading a new ubuntu iso from your grub, to install04:36
at[m]hey everyone04:48
at[m]I was trying to update from 14.04 to whatever the latest is and somewhere along the way I got stuck in a libc / kernel update limbo04:49
at[m]I can't upgrade to the latest distro because "This version of the GNU libc requires kernel version 3.2 or later.  Please upgrade your kernel before installing glibc."04:49
xromulusWhat did you type?04:52
xromulusDid you update and dist-upgrade?04:53
at[m]let me find it04:55
at[m]I did do-release-upgrade04:56
xromulusAlso are you trying to upgrade to lts?04:56
at[m]I don't care for lts04:56
at[m]this is more of a sandbox04:56
xromulusIs it server or desktop04:57
at[m]server04:57
at[m]cli only04:57
xromulusDid you do this?05:01
xromulushttps://www.linuxbabe.com/linux-server/upgrade-ubuntu-14-04-ubuntu-16-04-server05:01
at[m]didn't do the -d flag05:02
at[m]but other than that it seems about right05:02
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xromulusat[m]: I'm not super smart.. sit tight someone might be able to help you05:19
xromulus:)05:19
Flannelat[m]: What did you do before running do-release-upgrade?05:22
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catalaseanyone have experience with dante?05:29
catalasedante-server rather?05:29
catalasei've tried this config: https://www.inet.no/dante/doc/1.3.x/config/server.html05:29
catalaseserver is listening on 108005:30
catalasebut i am not getting internets05:30
catalasefirefox went from connection refused, to the connection was reset05:30
catalaseand logs aren't showing shit05:31
shin_hello?05:32
Sean_McGhi :)05:41
lotuspsychjeSean_McG: welcome, what can we do for you05:45
vijuHow do I add and use IPA (phonetic characters)? I am using Ubuntu 16.0405:46
Sean_McGlotuspsychje: for the moment, nothing special05:49
Sean_McGactually what is the proper way to add GPG keys so that apt source does not complain about public signatures?05:50
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lotuspsychje!gpg | Sean_McG05:51
ubottuSean_McG: gpg is the GNU Privacy Guard.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto and class #8 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClassroomTranscripts05:51
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ZombieCan anyone reccommend a good utility for the creation of and Management of an internal, non-Public CA?06:15
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R3d_Skyhello.06:21
Starcraftmazterhu'06:25
Starcraftmaztermy colleague who is also called by my name but definitely not me, he has ubuntu 16.10 and he wants to upgrade but it tells him that it cant connect to the server to update packages / reload packages06:26
Starcraftmazterany advice?06:26
lotuspsychje!eolupgrade | Starcraftmazter06:31
ubottuStarcraftmazter: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades06:31
Starcraftmazterlotuspsychje: says service unavailable :(06:32
Sean_McGsounds like you have no connection to the Internet, or perhaps a firewall or filtering proxy in the way?06:38
Starcraftmazterlotuspsychje: thanks06:41
StarcraftmazterSean_McG: i think the site is just intermittedly 503ing06:41
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lost-is there any command to count how many emails I have in my mail inbox?06:52
hanhongbohi07:06
diskinlost-, where is your mailbox?07:07
JoeLlamaokay I'm looking for a utility that will do file transfers with verification between drives.  Something with a GUI would be nice.  Anyone? :)07:08
lost-using 'mail' ssh command07:08
JoeLlamacoping files with Verify? anyone know of a decent utility?07:10
diskinlost-, AFAIK, "mail" command can handle many mailbox types, both local and remote. What type of mailbox are you using?07:13
lost-postfix07:13
diskinlost-, https://serverfault.com/a/289177 - is it what you want?07:19
lankanmonhey guys, so I am running 17.10 and I logged in today and my desktop looks like this: http://oi67.tinypic.com/2dqtyk3.jpg07:20
lankanmonthe bar that goes on the top and the left is now at the bottom... how did this happen?07:21
lankanmonis this a setting?07:21
lost-diskin yess, thank you!07:23
diskinlankanmon, can you drag it to the top?07:24
lankanmondiskin: no, I tried that...07:25
lankanmonit seems to be on purpose as it replaces both the side and top menus07:25
diskinlankanmon, try gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/panel07:26
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lankanmondiskin: before I do that, do you know how it may have happend. I don't hate it, I just wanted to know if it is a setting07:28
diskinlankanmon, agree. let's wait for others then :)07:29
lotuspsychjelankanmon: that doesnt look like 17.1007:30
lankanmonlotuspsychje: here's another image: https://imgur.com/r5Dm0Pz07:33
diskinlankanmon, https://askubuntu.com/questions/132786/how-can-i-move-the-top-panel-to-the-bottom-in-gnome-307:33
diskinah, so it's Cinnamon07:33
lankanmonwhat does that mean?07:34
lotuspsychjelankanmon: that looks more like a gnome classic then gnome307:34
lankanmoninteresting...07:35
lankanmonis that an option in settings?07:35
lankanmonwhere would I be able to find that?07:35
lotuspsychjelankanmon: how about you tell us first how you installed ubuntu and what else you did?07:35
mst89looks like a highly customized gnome3 to me07:35
lankanmonhonestly, I just downlnloaded and installed as usuall. It lookes like regular know until I logged in right now...07:36
hanabishihello everyone08:01
hanabishihope good days to everyone08:01
* jordila it's Dropbox Desktop app at his ubuntu says... "Can't sync not enough disk free disk space"08:46
jordila...^^ ( before dropping onto Dropbox forums ) ... how come that an App is claiming "not enough disk space" , while 'df -h' shows '3,2 G' available ?08:47
jordilawhat am i missing ?08:48
surveyor3Hello!09:01
surveyor3Can I ask you how much ram does Gnome use in Ubuntu 17.10?09:01
surveyor3mine is using 900 MiB09:02
pizzaburgerHi! Is there a way to download bot-sent files while using a web-based irc client?09:04
* jordila solve ^^ :-)09:05
lotuspsychje!warez | pizzaburger09:12
ubottupizzaburger: piracy discussion and other questionably legal practices are not welcome in the Ubuntu channels. Please take this discussion elsewhere or abstain from it altogether. This includes linking to pirated software, music, and video. Also see !guidelines and !o4o09:12
surveyor3I mean can you check how much ram is using gnome-shell in your PC? Is it normal that mine is using 900 MiB?09:16
lotuspsychjesurveyor3: gnome is bit more heavy then unity for use09:17
lotuspsychjesurveyor3: htop to see whats going on09:17
lotuspsychjesurveyor3: are you logged into wayland or xorg?09:17
surveyor3xorg quite surely09:19
surveyor3lotspsychje:09:19
surveyor3lotuspsychje09:19
lotuspsychjeok09:20
marethi everyone, i am connecting to server through ssh . I've run command to start an ongoing process. If I cancel ssh connection does the process also stops?09:22
diskinyou need to use "screen" command for such cases09:23
maretdiskin, ok thanks i will take a look09:30
hateball!screen | maret09:31
ubottumaret: screen is a window manager for terminal sessions, also useful over SSH. The 'byobu' package provides very useful additional utilities. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Screen09:31
Fire-Dragon-DoLit took me hours to figure out all the quirks of systemd but now I definitely know more09:42
Fire-Dragon-DoLhowever, it also sprouted a certain hate for systemd... lol09:42
ssarahI'm inside my home machine with ssh. If I would have logged in using a shell it would have automounted my partitions. How do I do this via ssh?09:42
dreamlinux-user@Fire-Dragon-DoL, I would like to see it as an extension for init09:45
Fire-Dragon-DoLI still struggle to understand the whole startup. There is init.d, systemd, but there is also the `rc` script which i don't remember the exact name09:46
Fire-Dragon-DoLoh and there is the `service` command09:46
dreamlinux-userThis is just for sysvinit backwards compatibility if I remember it right..09:48
Fire-Dragon-DoLyeah I guessed it was because of that09:55
Fire-Dragon-DoLstill, very confusing09:55
Fire-Dragon-DoLand the instructions on web are so updated09:55
Fire-Dragon-DoLI didn't know systemd was the one that should be used09:55
Fire-Dragon-DoLI like the dependency and grouping system though09:55
Fire-Dragon-DoLthat will simplify my server setup a lot09:56
causativessarah, what partition is it not mounting?09:57
ssarahall of them. normally on a graphical login they all mount09:58
ssarahor they mount as i click on them in thunar09:58
causativeyou can say "sudo mount -a" to mount what is in /etc/fstab09:58
ssarahif i run thunar through ssh -X it will tell me im not authorized. if i run sudo thunar it will not list the partitions09:58
ducassessarah: as long as they are listed in fstab, all your filesystems should be mounted either way09:58
ssarahthey are not listed in fstad09:59
ssarahim using xubuntu, mind you09:59
causativeyou can say "sudo mount /dev/<some device> /<path>/<to>/<mount"10:00
ssarahcausative, i know, but like i said, on a graphical login it will list all available partitions and then mount them for you (after you  if you click on them via the desktop or thunar i believe)10:01
hateballssarah: are these fuse-mounted things?10:02
ssarahim using thunar remotely via ssh -X10:02
ilfpott_hey10:03
ilfpott_how od I oopoen README.md file10:03
ilfpott_.md has strange code10:04
ilfpott_it's markdown10:04
ilfpott_language10:04
daumieWe can't get you ilfpott_ . What's the issue? Shed more light.10:06
ssarahilfpott_, apt-cache search markdown <- pick one ? :)10:06
ssarahhateball, I'm not sure what your question means.10:07
hateballssarah: I mean that if you log in graphically, click say... an NTFS-partition, that'll use fuse to mount the partition in your user context and not using fstab10:08
ssarahi have no idea what the standard behaviour on xubuntu is10:08
hateballssarah: and so it would not get auto-mounted when you log in through a non-graphical shell10:08
ssarahso hateball, can i trigger the fuse mount via shell ?10:09
hateballssarah: sure, "fusermount"10:09
hateballssarah: likely there is a config saved for it that autoruns on GUI session start10:09
ssarah$ fusermount: missing mountpoint argument10:10
hateballyes, you'd need to know what and where to mount, hence why I said there's probably a config saved by the GUI that you could look at10:12
Ben64or just add em to fstab10:12
ssarahyou happen to know where that file is?10:12
hateballThat works also :D10:12
hateballssarah: Sorry no, I use KDE with kio, it's not the same as gnome or xfce which uses gvfs I think?10:12
bobdobbsHi all. I tried to update mariadb on ubuntu 14.04. After the update, maria wouldn't start.10:13
hateballbut like Ben64 says, make a permanent mount in /etc/fstab and it doesnt matter where you login from10:13
Shawn|C2Duohowdy10:13
bobdobbsNow when I try to do 'service mysql start', the prompt just hangs10:13
Shawn|C2Duoare apt-get update zesty updates done with?10:13
ssarahdoing a grep -r fusermount on my home10:13
bobdobbsI've got a feeling that I might have more thatn on mysql client installed. How can I check this?10:14
ssarahbobdobbs, try service mysql status or go do a tail -f on the log file10:14
bobdobbsssarah: at one terminal, I'm trying to start it. From the other term 'service mysql status' returns "post-start process 13548"10:15
bobdobbsssarah: I'll check the log file. (last time I checked it was pretty bare)10:15
bobdobbs/var/log/mysql.err is empty.10:16
bobdobbsssarah: I'll see what else is happening in the log directory10:16
ssarahI think you should also ask for help in #mariadb10:16
bobdobbsssarah: sure thing. But I suspect that this is an ubuntu admin issue10:17
ducasseShawn|C2Duo: zesty is eol, you need to upgrade to artful10:17
bobdobbsssarah: there's another dir: 'var/log/mysql'.  It has a sing file: error.log. That log just shows a successful shutdown10:17
bobdobbsnothing really there: https://hastebin.com/xusaziwune.pl10:18
Shawn|C2DuoI had an upgrade window, but its gone10:18
ducassebobdobbs: did you update from the ubuntu repos?10:18
Shawn|C2DuoI had to restart10:18
Shawn|C2Duonow whenever I run sudo apt-get upgrade it gives 404s10:19
ssarahhttps://stackoverflow.com/questions/19299950/mysql-terminated-with-status-1 <-see if anything useful in the answers here10:19
ssarahbobdobbs, ^10:19
bobdobbsoh wait. this might be something: So no one prompt I tried to do 'service mysql restart'. That prompt is hanging, but it does show: "stop: Unknown instance"10:19
bobdobbsssarah, ducasse I'll check....10:19
ducasseShawn|C2Duo: you can use do-release-upgrade10:19
Shawn|C2Duoah ty10:20
ssarahnothing about fusermount on my home. I guess I'll just use mount10:20
ssarahSucks.10:21
ducassebobdobbs: what's the output of 'apt-cache policy mariadb-server' - can you pastebin it?10:21
bobdobbsducasse: oh. I don't think I did. I followed the instructions on this page: http://sharadchhetri.com/2014/11/15/install-mariadb-server-10-0-ubuntu-14-04-lts-trusty-tahr/10:21
bobdobbsducasse: sure thing...10:21
snowwebhello10:21
bobdobbsducasse: https://hastebin.com/gecekecibe.rb10:22
ducassebobdobbs: that's a third-party repo, those packages aren't supported here10:22
bobdobbsoh crap10:22
Shawn|C2DuoI thought I was using an LTS distro10:22
Shawn|C2Duois lubuntu 17.04 LTS done with?10:22
ducasseShawn|C2Duo: no, 17.04 is not an lts - 16.04 is the latest lts10:23
Shawn|C2Duooh oops10:23
ssarahbobdobbs, if it's not a production database or if you have a provisioning script, consider doing an apt-get purge for all the sql/mariadb packages and then redoing the installation10:23
bobdobbsssarah: it's a production host :/10:23
bobdobbsssarah, ducasse should I remove the packages without purging, remove the repos, add the proper repos, and then re-install/reconfigure ?10:24
bobdobbsI've backed up the databases. But I'd prefer to leave them in place10:25
ssarahtry the stuff on that stackoverflow first10:25
ssarahlike running mysqld directly10:25
bobdobbsssarah: which SO/10:25
ssarahhttps://stackoverflow.com/questions/19299950/mysql-terminated-with-status-1 <- posted it above10:26
bobdobbssorry. missed it. thanks10:26
ssarahalso check the stuff inside the /etc/init.d/mysqlsomething file . to see what command is being called when you do a service restart10:26
ssarahyou can try doing an strace command10:26
ssarahit's a game now, not sure if it will take less time than just redoing the whole thing. good luck10:27
bobdobbsdebugging with strace is a little beyond, I'm afraid10:27
ssarahsometimes strace command will print out errors that are not being logged anywhere10:28
bobdobbsssarah: running from command line shows me something interesting: https://hastebin.com/ebuxipehex.sql10:28
bobdobbsline 1610:28
bobdobbscould be a conf issue?10:28
Shawn|C2Duoon an ssd, can a system upgrade go fast?10:29
ssarahbobdobbs, looks like it, your old config is not compatible with the newer version. try removing that line. maybe another one will make it fail after10:30
tomreynShawn|C2Duo: it can go faster10:30
ssarahbut keep checking :)10:30
tomreynShawn|C2Duo: if you're comparing to classic HDDs10:30
bobdobbsssarah: hunting down the line in the conf files now10:30
Shawn|C2Duoit said a few ours10:30
Shawn|C2Duohours10:30
ducasseShawn|C2Duo: depends on line speed etc10:31
tomreynShawn|C2Duo: those estimations are not very precise, it's difficult t guess this correctly.10:31
Shawn|C2Duoit a;ready downloaded10:31
Shawn|C2Duoits in the install segment now10:31
ssarahShawn|C2Duo, ssd's have their own firmware, sometimes only updatable through windows. also, updating the mobo will make it go faster10:32
ssarahonly after these two steps should you focos on the OS10:32
tomreynShawn|C2Duo: then it'll likely be less than 2 hours. but there, too, it depends on how many packages you have installed (and which ones).10:32
Shawn|C2Duoo.O10:32
Shawn|C2Duo2 hours even on ssd?10:33
tomreynShawn|C2Duo: "likely [..] less than 2 hours" is what i wrote.10:33
Shawn|C2Duoless than an hour?10:33
Shawn|C2Duoperhaps?10:34
tomreynperhaps10:34
ducassessarah: he's running an eol os, so he needs to upgrade it10:34
ssarahducasse, ah, the do-release-upgrade thing. Yeh it takes a while.10:34
ducasseShawn|C2Duo: it usually takes about 10-15 minutes on my desktop10:35
tomreynShawn|C2Duo: in case you are comparing this to upgrades of say... windows, keep in mind that windows only upgrades the OS and some core packages. what you are doing right now is an upgrade of both the OS and all installed applications.10:35
bobdobbsssarah, ducasse: that did it. Thanks both. A line in an older conf file prevented the newer client from working10:35
Shawn|C2Duoah10:35
ssarahbobdobbs, no problem buddy10:35
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bobdobbsssarah: I'll let this host limp along for now. On a quiet weekend I'll fix the repos issue.10:37
ssarahbobdobbs, there's no problem with the repo being the official one from mariadb. As long as they support the OS/version.10:38
ssarahyou'll just loose support from ubuntu/debian itself.10:38
* bobdobbs nods. strokes beard.10:38
ssarahbut you're supported by someone else10:38
* bobdobbs remembers that self haz no beard10:38
Shawn|C2Duowe need this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNk6-0rDdto10:42
l0llip0pHi! Does one know how to cconfigure snap package's mouse icon? Every time I use application that has been installed with snap-package magager the mouse icon changes to ugly one ?10:48
Shawn|C2Duobobdobbs, no reaction?10:48
anddamI keep seeing "trust this device" on my iOS 11.something when connecting the usb cable to my xenial10:48
anddamI see reference this being related to changes on iOS side of "USB security" that should be addressed by libimobile, I'm not able to find a specific bug for this10:49
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anddamis there a way to solve this? the issue is particularly annoying since in iOS 11 trusting requires manually entering the PIN so unplugging/plugging the phone back gets quickly annoying10:50
anddamthat's too many "annoying", but you get the point10:51
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gagandeephello this is my first time logging into an irc channel!11:59
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PCatineanWhen an application prints to stdout it has a lot of bash colors for ERROR warning. When logging it to a .log file obviously these are gone, any way one can retrieve them from the log along with the colors?12:10
lliurex_f12:13
lliurex_sara sal del almacen12:13
BluesKajHi folks12:17
ducassePCatinean: color escape sequences are typically not saved to logs, try something like CCZE, maybe12:18
PCatineanducasse, before I worry about that how do I print the logs to stdout without robbing the logfile of the content?12:19
PCatineanas in read from the logfile to stdout instead of redirect from logfile to stdout12:19
ducasseyou can just cat the logfile, that shouldn't remove anything12:22
PCatineanducasse, this is for a docker application where logs should be persistent on a volume but constantly printed to stdout as well12:23
PCatineanso when one does docker logs container he would get the current logs12:24
PCatineanincluding with follow12:24
ducassenot familiar with docker, sorry12:25
PCatineanshould  make no difference here, stdoud should follow the contents of file.log constantly12:28
PCatineanwile file.log should keep the contents12:28
deemPCatinean: you could start the service with a tail for the log12:28
PCatineandeem, how?12:28
deemyou append a line to your startup script which contains "tail -f file.log"12:29
deemyou maybe need to modify some other lines aswell12:29
daumieUsing Ubuntu:16.04. I'm unable to login past the password prompt screen as the machine freezes. I can't input anything on the password prompt box.12:33
daumieHoe do I resolve this ^^^^^12:33
daumie**How12:33
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asceelciao12:48
muriiHey! Can someone help me out with this?13:01
muriihttps://hastebin.com/oxoteromec.sql13:01
muriiI can't apt-get upgrade13:01
cfhowlett!zesty | murii time to upgrade13:02
ubottumurii time to upgrade: Ubuntu 17.04 (Zesty Zapus) was the 26th release of Ubuntu. Support ended on January 13th, 2018. See !eol and https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2018-January/000228.html13:02
muriidamn13:02
muriithanks for the info!13:02
cfhowletthappy2help!13:02
hateball!eolupgrade | murii13:04
ubottumurii: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades13:04
Kingsywhy cant I find the package alsa-lib ? what is the equiv ?13:17
leeyaahello13:19
cfhowlettKingsy, ubuntu 16.04 apt searach alsa-lib https://paste.ubuntu.com/26505608/13:19
leeyaawhy does update-notifier differ from apt-get when checking for security packages ? https://bpaste.net/show/f3b49751515113:20
TJ-!info libasound2 | Kingsy13:20
ubottuKingsy: libasound2 (source: alsa-lib): shared library for ALSA applications. In component main, is optional. Version 1.1.3-5 (artful), package size 371 kB, installed size 1382 kB13:20
Kingsyoh, hm I installed those, but when I run a make on this app I get --> No package 'alsa' found13:21
Kingsyso something is missing13:21
Kingsychecking for ALSA... no13:21
Kingsyhowever if I type alsa -v I get Usage: /sbin/alsa {unload|reload|force-unload|force-reload|suspend|resume} so its 100% installed.13:21
Cheeztried libsound2-dev13:21
KingsyE: Unable to locate package libsound2-dev13:22
Kingsyoh I have it. libasound2-dev13:22
Cheezsorry, i suck at typing13:25
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museigenhello all13:34
lolbananaanyone here familiar with LXD?13:34
leeyaais using this one liner a reliable way to pull packages with security updates? apt-get -s dist-upgrade |grep "^Inst" |grep -i securi14:05
cfhowlettthe -s will only simulate the command not execute14:05
leeyaayes, ill use the output to pull packages and install them14:05
leeyaabasically i am going to do something like this: https://bpaste.net/show/464df2912068 replacing update-notifier14:07
lolbanananacc: you about?14:07
TJ-leeyaa: can't you just set the target? as in "sudo apt -t=xenial-security upgrade"14:07
leeyaaTJ-: hm, yeah i guess i could do that14:08
leeyaawill it work on all supported LTS releases ?14:08
TJ-leeyaa: --target has been a core part of apt as long back as I can remember, as long as you do <codename>-security it should work14:09
leeyaaTJ-: it doesnt pull just security tho14:09
TJ-leeyaa: really?14:09
leeyaaoh wait, my bad14:10
TJ-leeyaa: remember that -security packages also move over to -updates14:10
leeyaai got confused by the The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required: part14:10
leeyaaTJ-: it differs from apt-get -s dist-upgrade |grep "^Inst" |grep -i securi| wc -l https://bpaste.net/show/240c22678fa114:12
leeyaadoesnt get same # of packages14:13
leeyaaas for -updates, does unattented-upgrades process -updates as well ?14:15
TJ-leeyaa: unattended can be configured for all or just security I think14:16
leeyaai see14:16
leeyaanot sure if i want to install it, my nodes are minimal14:16
TJ-leeyaa: in your pastebin, you're limiting to -security, but as I said earlier, security updates migrate over to -updates too. The reason for -security is that archive is directly operated by Canonical so changes there appear immediately, wheres -updates may take some time to show the same packages if system's are using a mirror that doesn't sync frequently14:18
TJ-leeyaa: in other words securty fixes go: package > -security and -> -updates but then there can be a delay until all mirrors sync with -updates14:20
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ilfpott_hey microsoft is evil14:30
ilfpott_and so is windows14:30
cfhowlettilfpott_, FUD is unwelcome in this channel - even against other OSs14:31
ilfpott_huh?14:32
ilfpott_really of14:32
ilfpott_what is FUD, anyway14:32
cfhowlett!fud | ilfpott_14:32
ubottuilfpott_: Please do not fall prey to, or spread FUD (fear, uncertainty, and doubt) - it is not welcome here!  Please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear,_uncertainty_and_doubt14:32
ilfpott_Oh, so confidence on ubuntu = Fear14:32
ilfpott_uncertainty and doubt14:32
ilfpott_No14:32
cfhowlettthe topic is ubuntu suport.  ask your support questions14:33
ilfpott_many believe microsoft is evil14:33
ilfpott_and i'd talk only with those users14:33
cfhowlettit's offtopic here.14:33
ilfpott_who share my tinking, and would like a community of interaction with them14:33
cfhowlettthis isn't that community.14:33
ilfpott_No, I would chat only with them not you14:33
ducassethis channel isn't the place14:34
ilfpott_I am Anti-windows14:34
Haimshould I use the propietory or free Radeon driver?14:34
ilfpott_there is no #Anti_windows channel14:34
ilfpott_Haim: use the free one14:34
ilfpott_fuck companies, they are Evil.14:34
ducassemake your own, then14:34
Haimany other non-biased opinions?14:34
ilfpott_Foss , is the new way.14:34
ducasseand watch the language14:34
ilfpott_We are biased towards FOSS14:35
ilfpott_That's the whole point of Ubuntu, to be "biased" against closed source restriction14:35
tomreynHaim: whc ubuntu release, and which hardware?14:35
tomreyn*which14:35
ilfpott_I am absolutely agianst apple, and Microsoft14:35
Haimtomreyn: 16.04 Radeon HD 6xxx14:36
HaimHD 679014:36
tomreynHaim: i think there are no compatible / supported proprietary drivers for this hardwar eon 16.04, so it's pretty easy.14:37
tomreynHaim: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XenialXerus/ReleaseNotes#fglrx14:38
hateball!alis | ilfpott_ you can use this to search for channels that might suit your discussion14:38
ubottuilfpott_ you can use this to search for channels that might suit your discussion: Alis is an IRC service to help you find channels. For help on using it, see "/msg Alis help list" or ask in #freenode. Example usage: "/msg Alis list http"14:38
tomreynHaim : more info here ("before you proceeed"): https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/AMD14:39
ilfpott_everyone "worships" Mac esp in America14:39
ilfpott_Why is that ? Why no one uses Ubuntu?14:39
Haimtomreyn: thanks man14:40
ilfpott_We need to CS department in Universities to install Ubuntu over windows14:40
ducasseilfpott_: please just stop, you've been told this is the wrong place14:40
ilfpott_ubuntu is the best place to promote ubuntu14:40
ilfpott_I am not trying to create a controversy here.14:41
cfhowlettthen stay on topic14:41
cfhowlettubuntu support14:41
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ilfpott_is there a offtopic "liberal" ubuntu channel, where i can meet like minded community14:42
hateball!ot | ilfpott_14:42
ubottuilfpott_: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!14:42
cfhowlettuse !alis as instructed above14:42
ilfpott_Are you against Evil Microsoft ducasse cfhowlett14:43
cfhowlettI'm against rude poeple who ignore the rules of the community.  and you are the first entry to my 2018 /ignore list14:44
jk^hi all, i installed lubuntu withouth check the second checkbox in this image https://goo.gl/images/sJ3f2J i could install that stuff later, but in the package "lubuntu-restricted-extras" it talks about just something This collection of packages includes:14:44
jk^ - MP3 and other audio codec software to play various audio formats14:44
jk^   (mplayer plugins)14:44
jk^ - software to install the Microsoft Web fonts14:44
jk^ - the Adobe Flash plugin14:44
ilfpott_OMG you are against those who are against MS, this is worse than I thought.14:45
yaccAny way on an Intel/Nvidia laptop to power down the nvidia, so it stops heating up the laptop?14:45
jk^This software does not include libdvdcss2, and will not let you play14:45
jk^encrypted DVDs14:45
ilfpott_Looks like whole Linux Community has lost it's pride14:45
jk^it doesn't talk about wi-fi and graphics hardware as in the image in the link14:45
cfhowlettjk^, no need to quote it all.  what is your question14:45
hateballyacc: use nvidia-prime and pick Intel14:45
cfhowlettah.  wifi and graphics are not part of restricted extras jk^14:46
yacchateball, and that powers it down?14:46
hateballjk^: for restricted drivers post-install, you'll want to use "ubuntu-drivers"14:46
hateballyacc: good question, I don't really know14:46
jk^!ubuntu-drivers14:46
jk^i'm using lubuntu14:47
hateballjk^: it's a command you run in terminal14:47
jk^is there a gui way?14:47
hateballthere are gui frontends for it also, I just dont know what it is in Lubuntu14:47
ilfpott_Are there any Real anti - microsoft , Appplen, and company users, like Julian Assange, Julain Assange hates companies, as they are evil.14:47
jk^"Software and updates" i guees hateball14:47
ilfpott_hateball: you do hate MS?14:47
ilfpott_As your name suggests14:47
hggdhilfpott_: please stop14:47
hateballjk^: yeah if you have a tab for drivers, that's the same as running ubuntu-drivers14:47
Dekkardso, generally, these uefi and firmware updates.. yes or no? Im running 16.04 (?) lts base14:48
ducasseDekkard: expand on that, please?14:49
cfhowlettDekkard, sudo apt dist-upgrade         keeps my system healthy.  ymmv.14:49
Dekkardyeah..recently Linus said the intel updates for meltdown and specter were garbage.. i would rather not mess with my firmware and have reboot loops14:50
Dekkard im not running uefi, my lappy is old..14:50
ilfpott_Is Radeon a graphics card, that is physical, or is it a software ?14:50
Dekkardilfpott_,  hardware14:51
ducasseDekkard: you're talking about the microcode updates? those were pulled.14:51
Dekkardyeah.. but i already installed one..(ack!)14:51
ducasseDekkard: check the version14:52
hggdhDekkard: being pulled means the previous version was released again14:52
Dekkardchecking...stand by14:53
ilfpott_how do we know, which cmd for checking the name of the drivers /14:54
ducasseDekkard: 'apt policy intel-microcode'14:54
ilfpott_cfhowlett: why say nothing when on topic14:54
ilfpott_Looks like you were never into Ubuntu.14:54
ilfpott_With the oopensource movement soon microsoft will die a glorious death, with 10 yeaers14:55
DekkardInstalled: 3.20180108.0+really20170707ubuntu16.04.114:57
Dekkard  Candidate: 3.20180108.0+really20170707ubuntu16.04.114:57
Dekkardthanks for that btw14:57
Dekkardsaw some intel memory policy extensions.. in the updater..14:58
ducasseDekkard: that's the previous version, as you can tell from the 'really2017...'14:58
Dekkardgonna pull the trigger!!!14:58
ilfpott_Ubuntu is using pretty old kernel14:58
Dekkardyea.. but im on 4.1514:58
ilfpott_Why doesn't ubuntu use the latest kernel ?14:59
ilfpott_4.1414:59
Dekkardalpha214:59
ducasse!latest | ilfpott_14:59
ubottuilfpott_: Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, so "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports, !sru, and !ppa.14:59
ilfpott_But the kernel itself say 4.10 is too stable, and well tested, as it's not at all alpha.15:00
ilfpott_And arch and Fedora test them well15:00
ilfpott_They are not reading the old kernel's code anyway, how could they say, bug fixes15:00
ducasse17.10 uses 4.13, that's not old.15:00
jimb_note: I think 4.15 is latest now.15:00
ilfpott_But fedora is not bugged any more than ubuntu is.15:00
ilfpott_then why 3.xx15:01
ilfpott_I use ubutnu 16.0415:01
ilfpott_xenial15:01
ducassethat also has 4.13 in the hwe packages15:02
ilfpott_but in packages15:03
ilfpott_not in kernel15:03
ilfpott_I joined #openbsd and got criticised , because I didn't knew programming15:04
ducassehuh? the 4.13 kernel is available as a package15:04
ilfpott_I was abused there , but ubuntu is a simpler system and is more friendly15:04
ilfpott_Why is openbsd so hostile to others, and mocks others15:05
ilfpott_and calls troll for asking just a simple question ?15:05
ilfpott_Here I am allowed to ask simple questions, but is something wrong there15:05
ducassedo you have an actual ubuntu support question?15:05
ilfpott_I had one on #openbsd, and they called me a troll15:06
ilfpott_Although here I admit, I am trolling, but still pretty tolerant and liberal community, and i was abused there severall times..15:07
awaniHi, My name is Awani Mishra. I'm new and I would like to contribute, can someone get me started?15:08
ducasse!contribute | awani15:09
cfhowlett!contribute | awani please read15:09
ubottuawani: To contribute and help out with Ubuntu, see http://community.ubuntu.com and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu15:09
ubottuawani please read: To contribute and help out with Ubuntu, see http://community.ubuntu.com and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu15:09
ilfpott_god bless Ubuntu and curse BSD15:09
ilfpott_awani: first learn baash, and ssh,iptables,etc, and C and then contribute15:10
ilfpott_and also the ubuntu ppa package management system15:10
awaniThanks :)15:14
ilfpott_ubuntu was the first operating system, that I begain with , and then shifted to arch15:15
ilfpott_arch is what I love now, but ubuntu will always remain my first Love15:16
ilfpott_although forgotten love15:16
ilfpott_and windows willl always remain my Sexual Abuser, I will never foorget the unpleasant windows I use for 6 years15:16
ilfpott_I wish I just earlier `escaped` from the shadow of windows, but no one was there to guide me15:17
ilfpott_That's one reason why I hate it so much, and mac15:17
ilfpott_I regret not knowing about Linux earlier15:17
ducasseagain, do you have an actual ubuntu support question?15:18
BluesKajilfpott_, one doesn't have to hate windows in order to like using linux15:18
ducassein fact, doing so is rather childish15:18
BluesKajducasse, +1  :-)15:19
seiburii*agrees with BluesKaj*15:19
ilfpott_doing what?15:19
ilfpott_My computer science education professors are idiots, and taught mr everything on windows15:19
ilfpott_I think in US too windows is used, for "computer" edu15:20
seiburiisounds as though ilfpott is being poetic :). The indoctrination is strong with Windows to be sure.15:20
seiburiithough*15:20
blingrangThe best os in the world is the one which the user know how to use. For most its Windows.15:20
ilfpott_haha, Ubuntu is "easier" than windows, a survey was done to old people who never used computers in their life, and almost all said Ubuntu's UI is much more friendly and 'easy'15:21
ilfpott_I knew nothing, ssh,iptables, vpn server, web server, .. nothing15:22
BluesKajfor most windows is what runs all computers, there's no awareness of it as an operating system, it just does what they need15:22
ilfpott_I didn't even knew what the heck is a server15:22
leeyaaliefer: i learned most from gentoo, ubuntu is not that good for learning purposes15:22
ilfpott_and I used to ask strange quesstions like where is the internet's data stored, or what is internet15:22
ilfpott_leeyaa: It's the first step to Linux15:23
leeyaaliefer: if i have to recommend a distro to someone who starts now, i would recommend a distro where you build everything yourself15:23
ducasse!ot15:23
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!15:23
leeyaasorry15:24
hggdhilfpott15:24
ilfpott_I had abusive experience with windows hggdh15:24
gracious1ilfpott, that's very interesting. Do you have a link to the survey?15:24
ilfpott_and my computer education suffered a lot15:24
ilfpott_gracious1: no I read some article ages a ago15:25
gracious1Do you remember which GNU/Linux distro was mentioned in the article? I would imagine some distros are more beginner-friendly than others.15:25
ducasse"i read it on the internets, so it must be true"15:25
jimb_ducasse, Please stop quoting Abraham Lincoln15:26
gracious1Ducasse, that means that our minds are being controlled by nanobots who are the true leaders of the Deep State.15:26
gracious1Of course, this would explain The CW.15:28
Dekkardlol15:28
* Dekkard recommends slackware to people who want to learn..but not be tortured15:29
ilfpott_As computers are getting more and more advance, will computers achieve super intelligence ? And take over the world ?15:42
ilfpott_I am in offtopic15:43
ilfpott_channel of ubuntu , I am leaving here ducasse15:44
JoeLlamaanyone in here use CrystalHD?15:44
TJ-JoeLlama: the hardware decoder card?15:45
JoeLlamawhy yes, TJ-15:45
JoeLlamaI have a bunch of them I love them when they work15:45
TJ-JoeLlama: I have one - mini-PCIe - but not sure which laptop it's in15:45
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JoeLlamaOn "little machines" they do amazing things15:45
JoeLlamaVLC supports it under linux from what I understand15:46
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TJ-JoeLlama: oh, it's in a crate now, but yes, very useful for accelerating decoding15:46
JoeLlamaI will install ubuntu on a 64 bitter soon (1.83 GHz 2G RAM)15:46
JoeLlamaoh nice (:15:47
JoeLlamain a crate?15:47
nemesysif you wanna see the matrix, install arch linux15:47
TJ-!info libcrystalhd315:47
JoeLlamaI bought a small pile of them on eBay15:47
ubottulibcrystalhd3 (source: crystalhd): Crystal HD Video Decoder (shared library). In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.0~git20110715.fdd2f19-12 (artful), package size 49 kB, installed size 149 kB (Only available for amd64; i386)15:47
JoeLlamaoOo :)15:47
TJ-JoeLlama: from that git-version string above, it looks like it's not been touched since 201115:47
JoeLlamayup!15:48
JoeLlamame neither :(15:48
JoeLlamaI need a g/f15:48
TJ-!info firmware-crystalhd15:48
ubottuPackage firmware-crystalhd does not exist in artful15:48
JoeLlamaoops15:48
TJ-!info firmware-crystalhd xenial15:48
ubottufirmware-crystalhd (source: firmware-crystalhd): Crystal HD Video Decoder (firmware). In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.0~git20120110.fdd2f19-1 (xenial), package size 2218 kB, installed size 6322 kB15:48
JoeLlamaoh ok15:48
JoeLlamawell I know that GOM player supports it and VLC supports it under linux from what I understand15:48
JoeLlamaGOM is kind of a weird but powerful player from korea15:49
JoeLlamakorean software is a little weird :/15:49
JoeLlamaCrystalHD does not support all video formats however15:49
JoeLlamabut it's nice to be able to watch a video on an Intel Atom N270 (32 bit)15:50
JoeLlama1.6 GHz15:50
JoeLlamaI learned yesterday NOT to put one of those computers on a matress (bed) it over heated and the video shut down (ubuntu kept going)15:51
JoeLlamabut I let it cool down for like 3 minutes and it was fine after that15:51
JoeLlamano CrystalHD in that box however15:51
JoeLlamaIntel Atom is not very effective under windows but under linux it rox :) at least enough, it rox15:52
JoeLlamawindows needs at least a couple of cores....  Intel Atom only has one15:52
JoeLlamawell wait...15:52
JoeLlamaintel atom n270 and n470 and others.., haven't researched all of them15:53
JoeLlamawhat is up TJ-? tell me something about ubuntu that is cool15:53
JoeLlamaI am into saving old PCs (notebooks) from chinese recycling plants...  I literally buy and save them just before they ship to china15:54
TJ-JoeLlama: this is a support channel; there is #ubuntu-offtopic for unrelated chat15:54
JoeLlama*sigh* I know but we are the only two talking atm so I try to take the opportunity...  but o k15:55
JoeLlamano one talks on those "other" channels15:55
bobeoo/15:56
bobeoI keep getting an error on one of my servers, apt key verification failed.15:56
bobeowhat does this actually mean?15:56
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JoeLlamaso then a support question...  is anyone here into IoT under linux?15:58
anddamwhy does   dd if=/dev/urandom of=foo bs=1G count=1   only result in    33554431 bytes (34 MB, 32 MiB) copied, 0.182629 s, 184 MB/s    ?15:59
anddam  /dev/random stops at 88 kB15:59
ducasseJoeLlama: questions that start with "is anyone.." tends to not get answered16:00
hggdhJoeLlama: no, this is not a support question.16:00
JoeLlamaoh :(16:00
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hggdhbobeo: that one of the keys apt needs to verify a package is missing16:03
mmarconmhow i use username from gdm login ?16:06
mmarconmhide username from gdm login16:06
nacclolbanana: am now16:07
ducassemmarconm: take a look here - https://ask.fedoraproject.org/en/question/43367/how-to-hide-certain-users-from-gdm-logon-list/16:08
mmarconmducasse: thanks16:09
bobeohggdh: how do you know what key you need, or how do you identify which key its looking for that it cant find?16:09
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hggdhbobeo: it is probable apt would state which package failed key verification. Then you need to find out where the package came from (which repository)16:10
bobeohggdh: I know which repo, I have been able to identify that. but I dont know how to identify the key itself, can you tell me how? where would I look?16:11
hggdhbobeo: you can try a sudo apt-key list to see which keys in have in16:12
Ghostbowlhey I have a question about running shell scripts16:14
Ghostbowlcan somebody help me out?16:14
JimBunbtu!ask16:14
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience16:14
GhostbowlI want to know how to open tmux in a shell script and then issue commands within the tmux window16:15
GhostbowlI found this tutorial https://superuser.com/questions/492266/run-or-send-a-command-to-a-tmux-pane-in-a-running-tmux-session/492549#49254916:17
Ghostbowlor I mean advice16:17
Ghostbowlbut I don't really understand it16:17
JimBunbtuwhat you want to use is the `tmux new-session -d -s <name> <command>` command...16:17
JimBunbtuGhostbowl, then you can talk to that session later via something like `tmux send-keys -t <name> <keys>`16:18
Ghostbowlwhat do you mean jim?16:18
Ghostbowlwhat does the t flag do?16:19
JimBunbtuI may not be remembering, but I think that tells tmux what session name to send the command to16:20
TJ-anddam: urandom/random exhausted entropy, so need more.16:20
JimBunbtuGhostbowl, confirmed, that says what session is to be commanded.16:20
Ghostbowlok I want it to press ctrl-b and then d, would that be tmux new-session -ds -s <ctrl> <b> <d>16:21
Ghostbowlhow do I turn off the purple text16:21
Ghostbowlwith the people joining, it's really distracting16:21
ducasse!quietirc16:22
ubottuTo ignore joins/parts/quits in your favorite IRC client, see http://wiki.xkcd.com/irc/Hide_join_part_messages16:22
ducassebtw, we don't know what your client shows in purple16:22
Ghostbowlquassel16:23
Ghostbowlit says right click on the buffer16:23
Ghostbowlwhat's a buffer16:23
Ghostbowllol16:23
Ghostbowlnevermind, I figured it out16:23
TJ-Ghostbowl: you could use "tmux  detach-client -t <client>" (or "tmux detach-client -s <session>") rather than send the Ctrl+B d sequence16:24
Ghostbowloh16:24
calico_How can I increase the size of the swap file on 17.10? Once my 1.4GB swap gets full, my laptop becomes unresponsive16:24
Ghostbowlwhat does the <client> mean?16:24
TJ-Ghostbowl: the identifier for the client, shown by list-clients16:25
kostkoncalico_, how much ram have you got16:25
Ghostbowlbut ctrl+b, d is for tmux itself16:25
calico_kostkon, 4 gigs16:26
Ghostbowldoes it still apply then?16:26
Ghostbowlthis is the shell script I made16:28
Ghostbowlhttps://pastebin.com/J70Aaug716:28
Ghostbowlit's to install a cpu miner16:28
GhostbowlI'm playing around with an old pc and I thought it would be fun16:28
JimBunbtuI think it's more norm now to shebang with #!/usr/bin/env bash          although, I may being critical to suggest this.16:30
naccJimBunbtu: shouldn't be necessary in Ubuntu (although not wrong)16:31
JimBunbtuGhostbowl, I suggest you change the last 4 lines to this simpler version... tmux new-session -d -s cpuMiner "cd cupminer-multi && ./cpuminer --algo=scrypt:2048 -o (pool) -u (addres)"16:33
JimBunbtuGhostbowl, That way you start a detached session that is running your desired program... no need to open an attached session only to detach after starting your command.16:34
llusatohello16:39
llusatobye16:39
Ghostbowloh ok16:41
Ghostbowlthat makes sense16:41
Ghostbowlnow it looks like this https://pastebin.com/deU11p1716:46
JimBunbtuGhostbowl, I think you need to put the double-quotes (") back in at the end16:48
at[m]ok, so if I'm on a fresh 14.04 install and want to upgrade to the latest and greatest distro, what's The Right Way to do it?16:48
Ghostbowloh ok I did16:49
JimBunbtu!eolupgrade | at[m]16:51
ubottuat[m]: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades16:51
Ghostbowlwould this work for a cloud server?16:51
Ghostbowllike a customization script/user data16:51
ducasseat[m]: do you want 16.04 lts or 17.10?16:51
JimBunbtuGhostbowl, sure. I think it needs error catching though... i.e., you assume the build command works and such without checking exit codes on anything16:51
Ghostbowlwhat's error catching?16:52
JimBunbtuError catching, loosely put, is where your script doesn't assume one command has worked before moving on to the next command.16:53
Ghostbowlis that like sh -e ?\16:54
at[m]thanks, JimBunbtu16:54
JimBunbtuGhostbowl, in-complete example... `if [ $? != 0 ]; then`16:55
at[m]I swear my nickname is pg-13... it's actually ".at" on riot.im but I guess linked to freenode it turns into at[m]16:55
at[m]ducasse: I want 17.1016:55
calico_Last night I wanted to try out the default Ubuntu gnome on my Kubuntu installation. I ended up not liking it. My laptop still boots at around 900mb, while after I installed Kubuntu it was more like 600mb. What else, besides the following commands which I have already ran, can I do in order to remove Gnome COMPLETELY?   So far I have done this --- "sudo apt-get remove --purge ubuntu-desktop",     "sudo apt-get remove --purge gnome",       "sudo apt-get16:58
calico_install --reinstall kubuntu-desktop kubuntu-restricted-extras",         "sudo apt-cache search ubuntu-desktop|grep Depends:|sed s/Depends:\ // |sed s/,//|xargs sudo apt-get remove --purge",         "sudo apt-get autoremove",          sudo apt-get remove gnome-*16:58
Ghostbowlhow do I apply that?16:58
Squarismis there any initiative to transfer browser desktop notifications to OS notification system?16:58
ducasseat[m]: you can easily upgrade to 16.04, then probably do a manual upgrade to 17.1016:58
Ghostbowlthe build command doesn't really ask anything16:59
Ghostbowllike I haven't seen it fail16:59
Ghostbowldo you have any experience with any cloud services?17:00
JimBunbtuGhostbowl, I was referring to the build command only as an example, in general it's good to check exit codes in general, but again, I am probably being a bit critical. If you don't want to go through the hassle of adding the exit code checking, the other advice I would offer is to consolidate your multiple apt-get installs to a single command at the start, basically add 'git' and 'tmux' to your bigger installation command17:01
JimBunbtuI have experience with a few, including Digital Ocean and AWS to name the bigger ones17:02
lolbanananacc: my lxd container gets no ip address with that command use you suggested. Any advice?17:02
Ghostbowlthat sounds good, but how would that look?17:02
JimBunbtusudo apt-get -y install automake autoconf pkg-config libcurl4-openssl-dev libjansson-dev libssl-dev libgmp-dev make g++ git tmux17:03
JimBunbtuGhostbowl, then remove the other lines where you installed git and tmux individually17:03
calico_Also, How can I increase the size of the swap file on 17.10? Once my 1.4GB swap gets full, my laptop becomes unresponsive17:04
visipcalico_: http://opensource.exposed17:06
visiperr17:06
visipcalico_: https://askubuntu.com/questions/178712/how-to-increase-swap-space17:06
calico_visip, thank you, proceeding :)  Was not able to find it on my own, Googling..17:08
visipnp. yea the ubuntu forums are a wonderful source. theres almost always an answer and if not... something that will lead you to one.17:09
calico_visip, root@calico-ThinkPad-T430:~# dd if=/dev/zero of=/media/fasthdd/swapfile.img bs=6144 count=1M17:12
calico_dd: failed to open '/media/fasthdd/swapfile.img': No such file or directory17:12
nacclolbanana: sorry i've totally lost context17:12
nacclolbanana: you may get better help in #lxcontainers17:12
lolbanananacc: I am still trying to get the containers to show up on my local NAT network17:12
visipcalico_: touch /media/fasthdd/swapfile.img17:12
visipcalico_: then run17:13
JimBunbtuGhostbowl, quick example - https://pastebin.com/6u5dAWj017:14
tomreynthe directory is probably not there, dd would create the file if writable17:14
nacclolbanana: ah ok, yeah swtich channel (I'm also there)17:14
JimBunbtuGhostbowl, last line "tasksToRun" should be "tasksToBeRun"17:15
calico_visip, that path from the top voted guide seems wrong to me, but I have no idea how to correct it17:15
calico_touch: cannot touch '/media/fasthdd/swapfile.img': No such file or directory17:15
visipAre you running LVM?17:17
tomreyncalico_: just create it at /swapfile.img or /home/swapfile.img instead17:17
visipcalico_: can you fun gparted and see what your swap partition?17:17
visip^17:17
calico_visip, I can't see a swap partition using KDE's partition editor17:17
visipcalico_: touch /media/swapfile.img17:18
visipthe /media/fasthdd folder doesnt exist17:19
visipYou could, i guess.. just create the folders and then create the file in the correct older17:19
visipcalico_: mkdir /media/fasthdd17:19
calico_I already have a swap file in the root directory, should I still run the suggested command at  /home/swapfile.img17:19
visipcalico_: touch /media/fasthdd/swapfile.img17:19
Ghostbowl@JimBunbtu thanks for the example17:19
visipcreate a new one next to it. make it larger and follow the same instructions17:20
calico_Okay, let me try :)17:20
visipyoull basically be removing the old one once you can affirm that the new one is in use17:20
visipAll it is a disc location that the is set aside so the kernal can dump stale memory to disc for later semi-immediate use (super generalexplanation)17:20
JimBunbtuGhostbowl, you are welcome.17:21
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calico_root@calico-ThinkPad-T430:~# mkswap /home/swapfile2.img17:23
calico_mkswap: /home/swapfile2.img: insecure permissions 0644, 0600 suggested.17:23
calico_Setting up swapspace version 1, size = 6 GiB (6442446848 bytes)17:23
calico_no label, UUID=b0e30b0e-3cb0-4b8b-845d-27c6caf8a5bb17:23
calico_ 17:23
calico_is this an error message?17:23
visipno, its a suggestion to run chmod 0600 /home/swapfile2.img17:24
MonkeyDustcalico_  to see what 'label' means, run   lsblk -f17:26
calico_visip, I am back. Right, so I ran chmod 600 /home/swapfile2.img and I will follow through the guide then17:26
visipgreat17:27
calico_So now fstab looks like this: /swapfile                                 none            swap    sw              0       017:30
calico_wait..17:30
calico_line 1 - /swapfile                                 none            swap    sw              0       017:31
calico_line 2 - /home/swapfile2.img swap swap sw 0 017:31
calico_I don;t know what I should do here https://i.imgur.com/zGdWROO.png17:32
visipcalico_: swapon --show17:34
visipwhats that say17:34
calico_What format should I choose here though... or can I just press enter17:34
visipjust hit henter17:34
calico_NAME      TYPE SIZE USED PRIO17:35
calico_  /swapfile file 1,4G 2,8M   -117:36
calico_but I haven't activated it yet17:36
calico_should I just go for "swapon /home/swapfile2.img" now17:37
visipok17:37
visiplets make this more simple17:37
visipcalico_: remove the /etc/fstab entry for your new sawpfile17:37
visipYou could but I dont want you too. id rather you keep the current swapfile location now that I think of it17:37
visipcalico_: remove the /etc/fstab entry for your swapfile location17:38
calico_Alright, will remove it now\17:38
calico_done17:38
visipcalico_: swapoff -a17:39
calico_root@calico-ThinkPad-T430:~# swapoff -a17:39
calico_root@calico-ThinkPad-T430:~# swapon --show17:39
calico_root@calico-ThinkPad-T430:~#17:39
visipcalico_: how much ram do you have on that machine?17:39
visipcalico_: and do you have that much disk space available?17:39
calico_4gb, I am thinking 6gb swap17:40
visipcalico_: fallocate -l 6G /swapfile17:40
calico_Or even more if that would be useful17:40
visip1:1 is generally all you need17:40
visipbut a little over is fine17:40
visiplets stick with 6G17:40
calico_right, so I ran fallocate -l 6G /swapfile17:41
visipno errors?17:41
visipcalico_: mkswap /swapfile17:41
visipcalico_: swapon /swapfile17:41
calico_nope, root@calico-ThinkPad-T430:~# mkswap /swapfile17:42
calico_mkswap: /swapfile: warning: wiping old swap signature.17:42
calico_Setting up swapspace version 1, size = 6 GiB (6442446848 bytes)17:42
visipcalico_: swapon --show17:42
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visiplink me a pic or pastbin of that17:42
calico_no output on swapon --show17:43
calico_I havent ran swapon /swapfile yet17:43
visipoh17:43
visipyea do that17:43
calico_root@calico-ThinkPad-T430:~# swapon --show17:44
calico_NAME      TYPE SIZE USED PRIO17:44
calico_ /swapfile file   6G   0B   -117:44
visipsick nasty17:44
visipcat /etc/fstab17:44
visipis the /swapfile entry still in there?17:44
calico_visip, https://i.imgur.com/6hXgglD.png17:46
visipgreat you should be good to go17:47
visipNow, if you want to tune your swapspace: Is this a server or desktop?17:47
calico_laptop:)17:47
dumblondehow are you?17:47
visipcalico_: cat /proc/sys/vm/swappiness17:48
calico_visip, 6017:48
visipcalico_: /proc/sys/vm/vfs_cache_pressure17:48
dumblondehow are you guys17:49
visipcalico_: cat /proc/sys/vm/vfs_cache_pressure17:49
dumblondeis anyone here17:49
calico_visip, 10017:49
dumblondehow do i ssh into server17:49
visipcalico_: those are alright settings17:49
visipyou should be good to go dude17:50
Mathisendumblonde, ssh foo.bar.ip.to.server17:50
MonkeyDustdumblonde  start here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH17:50
calico_visip, nice nice, your approach was a fair bit simpler. I have a widget on my desktop for my memory usage, can I just log on and off so it refreshes, or a reboot...17:51
visipwhichever. a reboot might be nice to prove to you that it all worked17:51
calico_brb17:51
visipkk17:52
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calico_Well, I rebooted successfully, so I guess it's all good! Only my desktop widget seems to be confused and it still says 0b.17:57
visipthat might be an issue17:57
visipcalico_: free -h17:58
visipcalico_: swapon --show17:58
visipcalico_: cat /proc/swaps17:59
visipcalico_: grep 'Swap' /proc/meminfo17:59
visipLook for signs of life in those commands17:59
calico_https://i.imgur.com/CudcBfa.png18:01
calico_I opened a few youtube tabs on different browsers, no change18:01
visipHmm18:02
visipOpen libreoffice18:02
visipOpen chrome or whatever18:03
visipopen a bunch of stuff18:03
visiplol18:03
visipIt seems like it is configured correctly but just is not being used yet18:03
calico_SwapCached:        30472 kB18:04
calico_SwapTotal:       6291452 kB18:04
calico_SwapFree:        5482236 kB18:04
calico_B)18:04
visipGreat.18:04
visipThere you go friend18:05
visipAnd now you wont have random files as swap either18:05
visipBut for future notice... you can also have random files for swap18:05
visip:)18:05
calico_Thanks a lot man, I really hope my system will not freeze anymore, whew.18:06
visipNo problem. Good luck.18:07
calico_It still reports ~1GB of ram usage on boot, which I find strange. And I cannot see what uses so much ram in the task manager18:07
visipTheres a lot of things loaded into memory when systemd starts18:08
visipDont be alarmed18:08
visipYoull also get a better idea if you use18:08
visiptop18:08
visipto sort through running proccess18:08
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calico_My idea got a little bit worse after running top, to be honest lol18:11
calico_How can I show you all my processes, system monitor reports ~200 of them, just so you maybe have a quick look and tell me if it seems alright18:12
calico_as I had Gnome on my Kubuntu, I removed as much as I can but not sure if there are still gnome processes loading when I boot up...18:13
akikcalico_: "ps auxwwf" shows all the processes in a kind of tree view18:13
calico_https://pastebin.com/9nxs89Wa I think it might be alright, but still worth some feedback from someone that knows what's up18:16
hoodedfigure1Hi folks, I wondered why nginx (managed by systemd) is run as root?18:16
hoodedfigure1(try `ps u $(cat /run/nginx.pid)` to verify)18:16
sahiley18:17
sahilanyone there18:18
JimBunbtuI am here but not there18:18
sahilmay know to to install gnome in ubuntu18:18
akikcalico_: i'm running plasma 5 and firefox and they alone take 900 megs18:18
sahilhey guyzz18:21
sahilbhosdi k18:21
sahilsalo kamino18:21
sahiltumhari ma ki chuuu.....18:21
akik!in18:22
ubottu#ubuntu-in is the channel for Ubuntu in India18:22
sahilasdfghjkl18:22
akikmaybe. or speak english, sahil18:22
sahili m asking a qustion which i want to resolve18:22
akiksahil: which ubuntu version?18:22
sahil16.4 lts18:22
sahilwant to install gnome18:23
sahilcan u guz let me know how18:23
akiksahil: try "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-gnome-desktop"18:23
sahilis this the command18:23
akiksahil: yes :)18:24
sahilk thanks18:24
sahilhow  can i contact u if i have any trouble in ubuntu18:25
tomreynsahil: you come here and state your issue. there are also web forums if you prefer.18:25
sahiland one more thin it is possible to install chrome in ubuntu18:25
lordcirth_worksahil, there's no need to contact specific people.  Just come here and ask18:25
sahilif yes the command?18:25
ducassesahil: you need to download chrome from the chrome website18:26
tomreynyou can install chromium: sudo apt install chromium-browser18:26
ducasseor that18:26
BrokenCoghellos.  I have an old server which I have neglected to upgrade - it's currently on Yakety.  running the "do-release-upgrade" results in "unable to using this tool" error.  Is there any alternative to upgrade?18:29
oerheks!eolupgrade | BrokenCog18:32
ubottuBrokenCog: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades18:32
BrokenCogubottu: thanks.  the second link has instructions, the update and dist-upgrade worked although didn't actually update anything.  the dorelease-upgrade gave the same complaint.18:37
ubottuBrokenCog: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)18:37
BrokenCogI should have read your nick.18:37
Steristhellos, I'm working on a hard drive swap and I want to increase the windows partition preceding Ubuntu... would Ubuntu start throwing errors at me or outright fail if it's entire partition is pushed forward?18:43
Steristit would not be achieved through resizing, but rather a mirror into a later physical starting sector18:44
lordcirth_workSterist, so long as the filesystem's UUID remains the same, it should be ok.  But have backups on general principles18:47
BrokenCogcan bot be updated to include additional URS?  this has solution to my previous question: https://askubuntu.com/questions/996768/upgrade-from-yakkety-yak-ubuntu-16-10-when-its-end-of-life/99693618:49
BrokenCogalthough it's still grinding away, so don't know positively if it will succeed in the end: but at least it's trying.18:50
Borw3I have a question, which is the most supported version of Ubuntu?18:52
Borw3On Desktop18:52
oerheksBrokenCog, seems like you have to backup and do a fresh install18:53
BrokenCogmaybe.  the upgrade to 17.04 is underway.  we'll see.18:53
oerheksBorw3, there are no stats of that18:54
geniiBorw3: Currently, Xenial Xerus ( 16.04.3 )18:54
Borw3I mean like as in which DE version of Ubuntu is most supported18:55
geniiBorw3: Every 2 years a Long Term Support version is released in April, with support lengths designed to overlap18:55
BrokenCogBorw3: how about stating why you want to know?  your needs will drive the answers.18:56
geniiBorw3: What actual desktop you use is not so important as the release version, because underneath they all use the same18:57
senapsi have installed docky, i can run an application and right click, pin it to docky, but how would i add files manager icon to it?18:57
geniiBorw3: So if you use KDE, you use #kubuntu for support, if LXDE then #lubuntu, XFCE then #xubuntu, for most others in here when there's no specific support channel18:58
BrokenCogoerheks: upgrade to Zesty went.  rebooted and now upgrading it artful.  had an error with spamassasin conf update, but that should be easy enough to sort out.18:59
Steristwhat kinds of things change a UUID?19:08
BrokenCoggparted, gfdisk.19:10
calico_I am trying to increase my Ubuntu partition, but I am running into the following issue - https://i.imgur.com/B0hpSsN.png - I can't as it's mounted (I guess?)19:15
calico_What can I do?19:15
BluesKajSterist, a new OS on another drive or partition will usually change your swap UUID19:16
akikcalico_: you can mangle the partitions in a live session19:16
calico_akik, how do I create a task and it executing it on a reboot?19:17
MonkeyDustcalico_  create a cron task, use   @reboot19:18
visipcalico_: Do you just want to make sure something starts up on boot every time?19:19
MonkeyDusthttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto19:19
visipMonkeyDust: cron is best used for tasks to be repeatedly executed on a chronological schedule.19:20
visipcalico_: what are you wanting to run?19:21
visipcalico_: or have run at boot?19:21
calico_visip, I just want to resize my Ubuntu partition as it got maxed now after the additional 6GB of swap19:22
calico_https://i.imgur.com/B0hpSsN.png19:22
visipSince its your systems... root device it might be best to boot ubuntu from a liveCD, then adjust the partitions using kparted19:23
visipThat way you shouldnt have to deal with syslocks19:24
visipcalico_: but we can do it live if youd like19:24
visipNot to mention the orderinf of your partitions is dirty19:25
calico_visip, would I be fine if I resize in Windows? I am just cautions so I don't mess up my laptop, that's why I was trying to do it under Linux19:25
visipyea you can do either or19:26
senapsi have logged in with ubuntu xorg. but i can't run kazam. isn't there any way in ubuntu 17.10?19:26
visipSince your windows partitions sits next to the linux partition... it might be best to minimize the windows partition and give that free space directly to your linux partition19:27
akikcalico_: resizing an ext4 partition can not be done in windows without specialized software19:27
calico_visip, Nice. Yeah, I wouldn't mind getting to the unallocated space at the end, but supposedly this SSD doesn't support having more than 4 partitions  !?!?19:27
visipakik: but he can boot windows, resize the windows partition, boot back into linux... and adjust19:27
calico_visip, it doesn't allow me to touch the ext4 partition at all though?19:28
visipcalico_: well stop start it19:28
visipcalico_: but akik is right19:28
calico_akik, specialized software as in?19:28
visiphense why id do this from a livecd19:28
akikcalico_: i meant windows does not support resizing ext4 partitions, but there probably exists 3rd party windows software to do it19:29
tomreyncalico_: i guess your easiest option is to use the unallocated 8 GB as a swap partition and remove the swap file you have now. all of this can be done now.19:30
calico_visip, BTW after increasing the size of the swap file the laptop became ... insane. Opened 20+ youtube tabs in FF and 10 more 720p yt tabs in Chromium - still ran alright!!!19:30
visipdang right it did :)19:31
visipnow you can multitask while your liesure19:31
visip:D19:31
calico_So, windows does not support resizing ext4 partitions19:32
visipnope19:32
visipI really really suggest doing this from a livecd of ubuntu19:32
visipItll just... be easier19:32
visipor you could attempt this: https://askubuntu.com/questions/492054/how-to-extend-my-root-partition19:32
akikgparted iso works too19:34
akikbut i guess you can install gparted while in the ubuntu live session19:34
visipgparted comes on the ubuntu cd19:35
visipcalico_: http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-resize-partitions-with-the-ubuntu-or-gparted-live-cd19:35
calico_No CD's or flashdrives, unfortunately. Just me, my phone and my laptop in the middle of nowhere :O19:37
* visip throws desk over19:37
calico_I have this Windows XP feeling going on, deleting files here and there, freeing up space...19:38
oerhekscalico_, then come back when you can  boot from a live iso19:40
akiki wonder if he could boot the live session from his current grub :)19:40
senapsi cant add icons to docky in ubuntu 17.10. anybody able to help? i can't drag icons to it as previous versions, some applications i run, don't add icons to docky so i can't right click and pin them to it.19:40
akikit support iso boot right?19:40
oerheksakik, yes, there is an isoboot wiki19:41
visipcalico_: the other way is to boot into windows, download some freeware partition manager that supports ext partitions19:41
Borw3calico_: You can use phone as USB to boot iso, check out DriveDroid for android, but needs root for some features.19:42
visipBorw3: that is some extra gangster stuff.19:42
calico_Borw3, I tried it when I was installing Ubuntu, didn't work out. Squashfs errors all over19:42
Borw3LOL19:42
calico_So as long as what I would be using in Windows to resize the partition, there isn't a good chance that I would not be able to go back to my Linux, am I getting this right?19:45
calico_Uh oh, so as long as the software that I would be using SUPPORTS RESIZING EXT419:45
Borw3I think there is gparted for windows, not sure.19:46
visipcalico_: Download Minitools PArtition manager from cnet19:46
visipcalico_: do this from windows19:46
visipcalico_: and dont over think it19:46
calico_Alight, let me boot into Annoying OS.19:47
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callicowindowsMiniTool Partition Wizard Free Edition doesn't work, same as EaseUS Partition Master... Still looking19:56
calico-windowsI am getting a scary message when trying to extend the ext4 partition https://i.imgur.com/gzoD75Q.png20:10
calico-windowsakik: ya think it's just a bluff? :)20:11
visipcalico-windows: no because the boot file offset location is based off the beginning of the disk 000000000 etc20:12
visippartition*20:13
calico-windowsso should I continue or abort mission20:13
akikcalico-windows: i'd wait until you get a flash drive20:14
calico-windowsDamn. I feel like I am back in time using Windows, but I'll manage...20:18
BillD73lol  I gave away all my windows crap the first time I installed linux and got used to it20:19
calico-windowsBillD73: yeah, but I need to be able to run certain windows programs and Wine is totally unreliable. 4% better than in it was in 2006...20:20
BillD73calico-windows: curous as to what programs?20:22
kenrinYou can always do whatever everyone else does and install windows on a VM20:23
akikkenrin: not everyone does that, of course20:23
kenrinOk,  the majority of people20:23
ioriawith beefy hw  guess it's the best option20:26
visipWindows VM++20:27
visipWine--20:27
taohansendoes Ubuntu still support tracking "devel" repos?20:33
ioriadefine 'tracking "devel" repos'20:34
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taohansenioria: replacing release definitions in /etc/apt/sources.list with devel20:35
taohansenas in swapping all references to xenial for devel20:36
ioriataohansen, we mean 'proposed' ?20:36
taohansenno. let me show you an example file20:37
ioriayeah20:38
taohansenioria: https://gist.github.com/8dfc6fef0ba9fe01b0591d6d81eb7ab220:38
enzotI did bootusb with ubuntu. When I boot pc with this pendrive it show me dark screen with "grub >"20:38
taohansenas you can see, my repos point to "devel" in all instances instead of tracking a specific 6-month or LTS release20:39
enzotHow can I fix it?20:39
oerhekstaohansen, that lines should include version ??20:40
ioriataohansen, and it works ?20:40
taohansenioria: it works but it complains. is there an IRC channel specifically for Ubuntu developers?20:41
oerheksusually there is no 'devel' repos, are you on Bionic?20:41
ioriataohansen, can you paste   sudo apt-get update20:41
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oerheksmaybe it is a bug in bionic.. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/172861620:42
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1728616 in apt (Ubuntu) "using 'devel' in sources.list causes apt-get update to fail" [Undecided,Opinion]20:42
taohansenoerheks: i'm afraid you do not understand this issue. please google "ubuntu /etc/apt/sources.list devel" for some background on what i am attempting20:42
ioriataohansen, #ubuntu-devel20:42
oerhekstaohansen, it is easy to answer: are you on bionic?20:42
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taohansenioria: relevant reddit post with requested output: https://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/7utyj9/does_ubuntu_still_support_tracking_devel_repos/20:43
taohansenoerheks: again, you do not understand the issue. please google20:43
taohansenioria: thank you. :-)20:43
ioriaok20:44
oerhekstaohansen, i do, but if you refuse to answer this simple question, good luck20:44
ioriai got it http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/devel/20:49
JardaynHey folks. How do I unmount a disk that's apparently is being used?20:50
taohansenioria: okay, so this is interesting. it points to current repos but apt insists on printing this error message which is maybe best interpreted as a warning?20:52
taohansenlooks like i have nothing to worry about for the time being20:52
ioriataohansen, if you paste the outpust (of apt-get update) maybe someone might help20:52
ioria*output20:52
taohansenoerheks: in the interest of helping people out, Ubuntu historically has a mechanism for "jumping" between pre-release versions (AKA the development process of turning Debian Unstable into a new Ubuntu 6-month release) by replacing the release codename you're familiar with with "testing"20:54
rcs_Is this an appropriate place to ask questions about the terminal bundled with ubuntu?20:55
taohansenoerheks: had you googled as i requested you to you would have found this out yourself but i actually do want to help as much as i want to also receive help20:55
nacctaohansen: i don't believe 'testing' does anything. 'devel' does20:56
nacctaohansen: but i don't know anyone who would activelly want to use devell all the time on a machine they care about ;020:56
oerheksso it is Bionic ..20:56
nacctaohansen: but devel would also imply you are always on #ubuntu+1 and never on a released version20:56
taohansenwhoops, slip of the tongue! meant "devel". thank you. :-)20:56
naccyes20:56
naccrcs_: sure20:57
Bashing-omrcs_: Sire, ask .. see what the response may be .20:57
Bashing-omsure*20:57
naccBashing-om: i like the formality :)20:57
rcs_Thanks. I am having issues rebinding C-0 in any processes started in gnome-terminal, I have disabled the keyboard shortcuts (especially normal-size) but "C-0" always just sends "0"20:58
taohansenoerheks: it is currently bionic but when the next release comes around if  still-supported, it will jump to whatever that codename is20:58
Bashing-omnacc: Yeah - agreed, sometimes we do need to show a bit of civility :)20:58
nacctaohansen: right, so not supported here (which is for released Ubuntu)20:58
nacctaohansen: you want #ubuntu+1 always20:58
naccexcept for taht week when there is not a enw archive, maybe20:58
rcs_I also do not see an existing binding for "C-0" in bind -p20:59
taohansennacc: sorry i did not know where to ask my question. is it okay to respond to your query you asked on #ubuntu-devel?20:59
nacctaohansen: it's not (afaict) related to the development of Ubuntu, so you probablly shouldn't have cross-posted21:00
naccI just happened to see it there first21:00
taohansenalright i'll post the output log on #ubuntu+1 then. thanks for your help21:01
rcs_alternatively, how can I change the default terminal for ubuntu?21:06
za1b1tsu_Should $HOME point to /home ? Because it points to /home/my_user/21:06
naccza1b1tsu_: it should point to your user's home21:06
naccza1b1tsu_: which it does21:06
SomeThow do I tell in terminal if my firewall is letting in all ip addresses or not?21:06
SomeTthanks21:06
SomeTfrom SomeT21:06
za1b1tsu_nacc, thank you21:07
naccza1b1tsu_: yw21:08
SomeT?21:09
akikSomeT: "it depends". if you configured it with ufw: sudo ufw status21:15
akikSomeT: if by some other means: "sudo iptables -L -n -v" and inspect the rules21:15
akikSomeT: if by "my firewall" you meant some other box, you can run nmap to scan your ip address21:16
abeldHi! I have a fresh install of Ubuntu 16.04, where the locale settings is messed up: at installation, I couldn't properly select my location (Budapest), so I apparently selected Serbia instead. Immediately after installation, I changed the locale in /etc/default/locale, and re-generated the locales to generate hu_HU and remove the sr_SR locale21:25
abeldHowever, now gnome-terminal won't start, apparently due to locale issues.21:26
abeldWhere does it get the locale it wants to start with?21:26
abeldAlso, the clock from the upper-right corner disappeared21:26
jattwhat does gnome-terminal exactly say?21:26
abeldwhen trying to start it from the icon, it just does nothing, but if I try running "gnome-terminal" from an xterm, I get a "Gtk-Warning: Locale not supported by C library" error21:27
abeldI have removed the sr_SR locale, so I guess it is trying to use that21:28
abeldBut where is it getting what locale to use?21:29
akikabeld: did you change it on each line in /etc/default/locale ?21:30
abeldyes21:30
abeldalthough when I run "locale" I get a "locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory" error message.21:31
abeldLC_ALL is not mentioned in /etc/default/locale21:31
abeldAlso, does it matter if I have hu_HU or hu_HU.UTF-8 ?21:32
akikabeld: you can get the list of locales with "locale -a"21:32
akikabeld: the difference on those two locales is that one is not utf-8 and the other one is21:33
abeld"locale -a" output includes hu_HU.utf8, but not hu_HU on its own21:33
akikabeld: i have to do the change from fi_FI to en_US after the install21:34
akikabeld: the install routine just assumes that if i select finland, i'm using finnish as the ui language21:34
abeldI already finished the installation, I am trying to switch from sr_SR (serbian) to hu_HU (hungarian)21:35
abeldsince the map you select from during the installation is ridiculously tiny21:35
abeldAlso, the city name field below the map is editable, so when I couldn't select Budapest on the map, I simply deleted the city name and wrote in Budapest in that field. I assume that didn't have any effect, and I ended up installing with a serbian locale21:36
ducasseabeld: do 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales'21:36
abeldducasse, ok, I did that now. Afterwards "locale" still prints out "cannot set LC_ALL" error message21:38
abeldand gnome-terminal still doesn't start21:39
abeldany other ideas?21:39
sasho199Hello everyone! I just tried to install Ubuntu 17.10 and the screen froze, I restarted and added acpi=off according to an online answer and it worked. Apparently it means that my ACPI cannot support that version of Ubuntu. Is it risky to install and run Ubuntu like that?21:41
akikabeld: check if you have a user file in /var/lib/AccountsService/users/21:43
abeldyes, I have21:43
akikabeld: does it have a locale line?21:43
abeldno21:43
abeldshould it?21:44
BillD73sasho199:  more details, what are you installing it on?21:44
akikabeld: not sure. did you edit LC_ALL value somewhere?21:44
Bashing-omsasho199: See: http://iam.tj/prototype/enhancements/Windows-acpi_osi.html . Maybe much better .21:44
sasho199BillD73, My computer is ASUS K550V.21:45
abeldI might have tried to set it with update-locale21:46
TJ-sasho199: Try my acpi_osi= workaround that Bashing-om just pointed you to; that's the preferred way21:46
abeldbut I think that only gave me an error message, plus I don't know whether it set anything anywhere21:46
sasho199Bashing-om, TJ-, I am currently reading it, I will try to do as it says! Thanks!21:48
akikabeld: can you open any terminal?21:48
abeldyes, I can open xterm21:48
akikabeld: try setting the variables LANG, LANGUAGE AND LC_ALL to your values and then try starting a gnome terminal from xterm21:48
abeldactually, I want both LANG and LANGUAGE set to en_US, only everything else to hu_HU21:50
abeldrunning "env" shows that LANG and LANGUAGE are set like that, LC_ALL is not set.21:50
cyberspectreHey everyone. I'm on a new ubuntu install and I can't delete anything from nautilus. It says "can't be moved to trash, would you like to delete immediately?" and selecting yes still does nothing21:51
abelddoing "export LC_ALL=hu_HU" gives me a "setlocale: LC_ALL: cannot change locale (hu_HU)" error message21:51
abeld "export LC_ALL=hu_HU.UTF-8" works, but gnome-terminal still doesn't start after that21:52
akikabeld: you said earlier that you don't have hu_HU21:52
abeldwhere did I say that?21:53
akik23:33 < abeld> "locale -a" output includes hu_HU.utf8, but not hu_HU on its own21:53
abeldoh, you mean the locales that are generated? yes, I generated only the .UTF-8 one21:53
abeldok, I'll try adding .UTF-8 on every line in /etc/default/locale21:54
abeldok, that appears to have been the problem. using hu_HU.UTF-8 on every line in /etc/default/locale appears to have fixed it21:57
akikgood21:57
abeldthanks for the help!21:57
Jordan_Ucyberspectre: Do you have a separate /home/ partition? Are the files you're trying to delete on the same filesystem as your home directory?21:59
sasho199Bashing-om, TJ- : I am new to Linux in general. I understand where the problem comes from, but I do not understand the solution, can you explain this guide as for a beginner?22:00
cyberspectreJordan_U, I just realized what it is, I think. Trash isn't supported on raw disk images. If I shift + delete, that works. So the dialog in Nautilus is just broken. Is there a way to disable the trash feature completely?22:00
TJ-sasho199: If you use the provided script, or copy/paste the commands into a terminal shell to execute them, they'll reconfigure the Linux kernel command-line so it can 'pretend' to be the latest version of Windows that your PC's ACPI DSDT recognises22:02
Jordan_Ucyberspectre: As far as I know, the closest you can get is to add an option to delete immediately.22:03
Jordan_Ucyberspectre: How exactly are you using "raw disk images"?22:03
cyberspectreJordan_U, I think nautilus used to have a feature like that, but no longer, apparently. I prefer not to have to shift+delete22:04
cyberspectreJordan_U, it's a virtual machine running in KVM via unraid22:04
sasho199TJ-: That part I understand. What I don't understand is how to use such scripts and what they do. Also I'm not sure what the terminal shell is.22:04
Jordan_Ucyberspectre: Running in a virtual machine should have no effect on something like this (unless you're using directory sharing between guest and host or similar).22:05
cyberspectreJordan_U, the ubuntu disk is in its own disk image22:06
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TJ-sasho199: A terminal emulator is a program that simulates a console (a monitor+keyboard combination). The 'shell' is a command line interpreter that takes typed commands and runs programs.22:07
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TJ-sasho199: Your desktop should have a "Terminal" application you can find/execute, where you'll get a shell command line. That is where the commands in the article need copying to22:08
Jordan_Ucyberspectre: That should still have zero effect on being able to use the trash.22:09
cyberspectreJordan_U, I'm as stumped as you are, then22:09
cyberspectremaybe trash somehow got its permissions changed?22:09
Jordan_Ucyberspectre: What have you done between installing Ubuntu and now?22:09
cyberspectreJordan_U, just install apps22:10
Jordan_Ucyberspectre: Via apt?22:10
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TJ-Jordan_U: cyberspectre are you running from the LiveISO? If so, that's a read-only squashfs COW mount; maybe that's why?22:10
cyberspectreJordan_U, yeah, through the software center and via debs as well22:10
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sasho199TJ-: Is the Command Prompt in windows such a terminal?22:10
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cyberspectreTJ-, no, it's a persistent installation22:11
TJ-sasho199: it is a shell, almost the same thing22:11
TJ-cyberspectre: oh... when you said 'raw image' I thought you meant the ISO22:11
Jordan_Ucyberspectre: Ahh, that is very different than "installing".22:11
Jordan_Ucyberspectre: Why didn't you use the Ubuntu installer to install normally?22:12
cyberspectreWhat? I did22:12
cyberspectreI don't mean it's persistent on the live disk, I mean it's a permanent install on the virtual disk22:13
Jordan_Ucyberspectre: OK, don't use the term "persistant" for that. It already means specifically a liveUSB that is part read-only and part writeable.22:14
cyberspectreSorry, I forgot that's what it's used to describe22:15
sasho199TJ-: Can you perhaps direct me towards a tutorial or lesson about these things? It seems that I need to learn a lot about it.22:15
cyberspectrewhere is the trash directory? How can I check permissions on it?22:16
Jordan_Ucyberspectre: Please pastebin the output of "ls -ld ~/.local/share/Trash/ ~/.local/share/Trash/files/ ~/.local/share/Trash/info/ ~/.local/share/Trash/expunged/"22:16
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cyberspectreJordan_U, https://pastebin.com/YN9eGGYx22:18
cyberspectreJordan_U, it's owned by root?22:18
Jordan_Ucyberspectre: Appears so. Easy to fix, but you should figure out what changed its ownership *and* find out what other directories it might have changed ownership for. Have you at any point run "sudo nautilus"?22:20
cyberspectreJordan_U, yes22:20
cyberspectreI have22:20
Jordan_Ucyberspectre: chown daniel:daniel ~/.local/share/Trash/22:21
shrimpif i wanted to use ubuntu solely for development/coding purposes, would buying a 128gb usb3 flash drive and running it off of that be a bad idea? does making the installation of linux portable make the OS worse?22:22
Jordan_Ucyberspectre: ~/.local/share/Trash/ probably didn't exist yet when you ran "sudo nautilus" and went to trash something, so it created the directories as root.22:22
akiksasho199: anything that you run from the gui can also be started from a terminal. when you open a terminal, it'll also start a shell in it22:22
cyberspectreJordan_U, that must be exactly what happened22:23
cyberspectreso trash doesn't exist until you delete something?22:23
Jordan_Ucyberspectre: I know it's convenient, but try to avoid running nautilus as root. Similarly, try not to run any GUI app as root unless you know that it's designed to be run that way. If you must, use gksudo instead of sudo. gksudo wouldn't have prevented this problem, but will prevent another problem that will prevent you from being able to login at all (~/.Xauthority being created as root).22:24
cyberspectreJordan_U, it's laziness22:25
cyberspectreI just need to finally learn how to use the basic commands22:25
Jordan_Ucyberspectre: You'll probably need to chown the subdirectories as well, so make that "chown -R daniel:daniel ~/.local/share/Trash/" .22:26
cyberspectreJordan_U, thank you so much for helping me with that. It's all fixed now22:27
cyberspectreNow, there's another little pesky thing22:30
cyberspectreJordan_U, any idea why a certain application (vivaldi) would launch just fine from the gnome dash, but not from dash-to-dock?22:30
sasho199akik: I understand. I am still new to this sort of thing, so far I had to deal with problems in Windows I got fed up by how much everything is covered up, since I read a lot of good stuff about how linux distros are transparent when it comes to what your computer is doing. I will try to find the information about this on the internet, as I understand maybe this is not the best place to ask for the absolute basics. Thanks for the inf22:31
sasho199Can anyone help me with this guide, since TJ- is not answering? http://iam.tj/prototype/enhancements/Windows-acpi_osi.html22:36
spanishgumjoin #spacewalk22:38
akiksasho199: you can run the script as "sudo bash ./acpi_osi.sh"22:38
akiksasho199: oh scratch that, it asks for sudo passwd itself22:39
akiksasho199: so just "bash ./acpi_osi.sh"22:39
TJ-sasho199: akik :)  ... I think the issue is more fundamental... using terminal/shell22:39
sasho199akik: Should I do that through Ubuntu?22:39
akiksasho199: TJ- is back22:39
TJ-sasho199: Have you opened the Terminal application?22:40
germaint22:40
germainsalut22:40
sasho199TJ-: Do I have to do that through Ubuntu?22:40
germainqui peut me dire comment installer  un programe  sur ubuntu22:41
TJ-!terminal | sasho19922:42
ubottusasho199: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. In Unity or GNOME, search the dash for "terminal" and press ENTER. Other desktops: Applications -> System Tools -> Terminal (MATE), K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE), or Menu -> Accessories -> LXTerminal (LXDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal22:42
hggdh!fr | germain22:43
ubottugermain: Nous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.22:43
sasho199TJ-: I am currently in Windows, is the first step to boot with my Ubuntu USB and open the terminal in Ubuntu?22:45
TJ-sasho199: Oh! We didn't realise you're in Windows :D Yes, boot into Ubuntu. When you said it worked when you used "acpi=off" it seemed like you meant it had currently booted that wy22:48
sasho199TJ-: Okay I'll boot unto Ubuntu. Is it safe to run it with the ACPI turned off?22:50
TJ-sasho199: If you're planning on adding acpi=off, then instead of that add (including the quote marks): acpi_osi=! "acpi_osi=Windows 2012"22:52
TJ-sasho199: that'll manually use a setting close to what the article/script will do22:52
akiksasho199: did you install ubuntu already or are you running the live session?22:53
sasho199TJ-: I intend to add it because Ubuntu does not boot otherwise. Does adding that line(acpi_osi=! "acpi_osi=Windows 2012") solve the problem? I am confused to why that script exists if so.22:55
sasho199akik: I have a Ubuntu 12.10 USB and I intend to boot into Ubuntu with it, I presume that is what is meant by live session?22:56
akiksasho199: you should get a newer ubuntu version and the process of adding the the extra kernel parameter probably doesn't work unless you have a proper grub installation and not the "iso on usb"22:58
akiksasho199: is it a usb stick or usb hdd?22:58
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uzumakiLive session is when you run the operating system from the external drive without actually installing the OS on the systems hard disk first.22:59
elpsy_Hi, so I want to use dnsmasq in docker on ubuntu 17.10 but 53 is already in use. Can anyone describe how dnsmasq is being used on the host in 17.10? How would I go about disabling it?23:01
sasho199akik: I thought 17.10 is the latest? What exactly does grub installation mean? Clarification: it is a usb stick with ubuntu 17.10 on it.23:01
akiksasho199: how have you put the ubuntu 17.10 on the usb stick? that's the question23:02
calico_Has anyone happen to have any experience with Vysor (Android)?23:02
sasho199akik: I followed this tutorial https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/tutorial-create-a-usb-stick-on-windows#023:03
akiksasho199: do you have a plan to install ubuntu on a hdd/ssd?23:04
TJ-sasho199: re: adding the entries manually. When you add the option at boot-time it only affects that boot, not *all* boots ever-after. The scripts apply the change permanently so it is automatically done without your manual intervention on every boot23:05
sasho199akik: Yes, thought of installing it now. Why I did not was because I needed acpi=off to make it run(both the try ubuntu option and the install ubuntu option). So I thought I should ask for help because I did not know if it was safe.23:06
zomaarDoes anyone know if a ZFS snapshot of a ZVOL always requires at least double the space of the used data or not? I tried to ask in #zfsonlinux but they don't have any answers.23:06
mattflyive deleted many log files folders and now some programs are crashing on ubuntu 16,0423:07
elpsy_mattfly: some programs require the log file or folder to exist.23:07
mattflyhow can i reconfigure all and get those folders again with all right permissions23:07
mattflyive realized elsy_23:07
mattflyi thought they would just create them again...23:08
elpsy_I don't know. I did that once and I manually went though the error logs and created the right folders with permissions.23:08
mattflyisnt there a way to reinstall the program keeping the configuration files?23:08
mattflywouldnt that be easier? with apt23:09
akikmattfly: you can try: "sudo apt-get install --reinstall package"23:09
sasho199TJ-: Thanks, I understand now.23:09
mattflyokay23:10
mattflygreat! seems to work23:10
sasho199_TJ-: I booted Ubuntu from my usb stick, with the commands you wrote.23:17
calico_Can someone point me in the right direction of installing this https://github.com/koush/electron-chrome , I have no idea what I am looking at23:22
sasho199_akik, TJ-: I booted Ubuntu from my USB Stick. I am running it currently, what should I do next?23:23
kenrincalico_: Did you read the README.md ?  it gives you three simple commands to install it23:24
TJ-sasho199_: implement the solution as detailed at http://iam.tj/prototype/enhancements/Windows-acpi_osi.html23:24
TJ-sasho199_: open a Terminal, then issue these commands: "wget http://iam.tj/prototype/enhancements/acpi_osi.sh ; bash ./acpi_osi.sh"23:25
sasho199_TJ-: It said Linux kernel command-line options required: acpi_osi=! "acpi_osi=Windows 2015", it's asking me if I want to add this setting23:30
TJ-sasho199_: go aheead23:30
sasho199_TJ-: I got this, sed: can't read /boot/grub/grub.cfg: No such file or directory Existing Command Line:  sed: can't read /boot/grub/grub.cfg: No such file or directory Modified Command Line:  /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: failed to get canonical path of `/cow'.23:31
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TJ-sasho199_: hang on, you're running the LiveISO desktop aren't you? This do anything until you've installed Ubuntu. I thought you'd booted the ISO and installed already :D23:32
TJ-sasho199_: so to be entirely clear, you need to install Ubuntu before the script can do any good.23:33
sasho199_TJ-: So did hits script do anything that I have to undo now. Or did it do absolutely nothing? Do scripts work only when Ubuntu is installed?23:34
TJ-sasho199_: no, it's not changed anything - it can't, the ISO is read-only :)23:36
TJ-sasho199_: the script is designed to change the boot options for an /installed/ read-write Ubuntu23:36
batphonegot a radeon 6950. it looks like ubuntu is already using a radeon driver. im used to nvidia. do i need to install ATI's official drivers to get the best performance?23:37
sasho199_TJ-: Ok I will install it now. Should I add acpi_osi=! "acpi_osi=Windows 2012" in the boot settings?23:38
TJ-sasho199_: which boot settings are you referring to?23:39
sasho199_TJ-: Before I can click on Install Ubuntu I have to click e and add acpi=off so it can run, if I add acpi_osi=! "acpi_osi=Windows 2012" it runs as well.23:41
TJ-sasho199_: as I understand it you've just booted the installer with those options, so they're in operation during this current session until you reboot. If, once you've installed and **before** you reboot into the installed system, you shout me, I can talk you through applying the changes to the newly-installed but not-yet-running Ubuntu so it works on the first reboot23:41
TJ-sasho199_: if you're currently running the "Try Ubuntu" option and have the Ubuntu desktop you can start the install by double-clicking the Install icon on the desktop23:42
sasho199_TJ-: Ok, I thought I had to restart my computer.23:43
TJ-sasho199_: No, we make it easy :)23:43
sasho199_TJ-: I get this. This machine's firmware has started the installer in UEFI mode but it looks like there may be existing operating systems already installed using "BIOS compatibility mode". If you continue to install Debian in UEFI mode, it might be difficult to reboot the machine into any BIOS-mode operating systems later.  If you wish to install in UEFI mode and don't care about keeping the ability to boot one of the existing syst23:44
TJ-sasho199_: Hmmm, that sounds like you've got Windows on there using BIOS boot mode. Does that sound correct?23:45
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sasho199_TJ-: I have Windows 10 I don't know what BIOS boot mode is.23:46
TJ-sasho199_: if it were booting in EFI mode there would be an EFI System Partition on the disk, and apparently the installer has found there isn't one, which is why you're warned23:48
sasho199_TJ-: Is this a problem?23:49
TJ-sasho199_: My preference would be to have both Windows and Ubuntu boot in EFI mode, but as Windows is already there and in BIOS mode it seems like rebooting the Installer in BIOS mode might be better23:49
TJ-sasho199_: I'm not sure how easy it would be to convert Windows 10 to boot in EFI mode either, if it's possible at all23:50
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sasho199_TJ-: I have a suspicion that whoever installed my Windows did a bad job, since I had problems with interrupt routines in Windows. One of the reasons why I want to install Ubuntu is to try to fix that problem. Is that related?23:52
grrrrrubHello I'm trying to install Ubuntu 17.10 and my grub install fails to install to /dev/sda1. I'm prompted with 'Bootloader Install failed' dialog. I can choose another device to try to insestall the booloader to, continune without one, or cancel the installation. None of the options work, when I press 'Ok' nothing happens. Help!23:53
kenrinYou should probably be installing it ot /dev/sda1 not /dev/sda123:54
kenriner23:54
kenrin/dev/sda23:54
TJ-sasho199_: it could be. If you have, or can create, windows install media (on a USB) /and/ save your product activation code(s), you could backup your user data, settings, etc., and  reinstall Windows in UEFI mode. There's an interesting thread here that talks about it and has some interesting links  https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/comments/3s7ieq/convert_windows_10_from_old_mbr_bios_to_uefi/23:55
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grrrrrubI'm specifying /dev/sda1 because I have a raid 5 setup. For some reason I can never successfully install grub, I've always had to use  the boot repair utility23:55
TJ-sasho199_: I have to leave you to it for now, it's almost midnight here23:55
grrrrrubI've tried installing in UEFI mode, and legacy mode. In UEFI I tried creating a partition with 25 MB of space, in legacy I tried a 1 mb partition23:55
grrrrrubBoth partitions on /dev/sda are at the very front of the disk23:56
grrrrrubI think I'm missing something23:56
sasho199_TJ-: Thanks a lot for your help, I might be able to resolve this problem from here on out, If I can't I'll join this chat again later.23:57
TJ-grrrrrub: the EFI System partition (fat16/32) is usually around 128MB - but 25MB should be /just/ enough. The BIOS Boot partition I usually set to 2MB (thats where GRUB puts it's core image when installed in BIOS mode on GPT)23:57
TJ-grrrrrub: but if the PC is only going to boot in EFI mode then you only need the EFI SP23:58
grrrrrubHrmm, well I can force my motherboard to boot legacy only, that's not a problem23:59
TJ-grrrrrub: and when installing GRUB you should always specify the disk, not a partition23:59
grrrrrubIs there anyway to recover the install log?23:59

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