[00:04] (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/0SqWtVdJ/file_4016.mp4 [00:48] @Flohack, Congratulations number 432! Your voice was heard and the Marketing Team under Captain Joe (in here) was successfully able to resolve your troubles. Please try clicking the link again and watching the magical URL transformation from wrong..... to right. High fives to @exar_kun === lotuspsychje_ is now known as lotuspsychje [08:23] Good morning people and a wonderful ubuntu day to you! (yes this is an adjective now) [08:37] Good morning Peter, thx [08:45] Leon De Andrade was added by: Leon De Andrade [08:47] Good Morning [08:52] @Leon De Andrade, Hello Leon and welcome! I'm part of the UBports welcoming team. … To help you get started, please take a look right away at our newcomers welcome page (https://ubports.com/page/telegram-welcome) and thanks again for joining us! :) [08:54] Hex Milan, thank you for welcoming :) [08:55] I have often read about Ubuntu touch and I am happy to see that there is still development by the community. Sadly I haven't had the chance to test Ubuntu Touch [09:22] Never is late [09:22] (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/Rh0QF2u8/file_4019 [11:03] ~~so, who would like to have UBports on Gemini PDA? it should be able to run in theory, now even without arm64 rootfs~~ [11:06] armhf rootfs is capable of running on aarch64 devices, right [11:06] in fact I am running it right now on my secondary phone [11:08] there was an issue with kernel that prevented it [11:17] @vanyasem https://hastebin.com/omuxibicor.diff [11:18] the number of debug prints was pretty desperate [12:21] Anyone from ubports at FOSDEM? [12:23] @technicalbird, I’m not affiliated with ubports, but I am present! Currently at the lightning talks [12:47] The state of Mir live stream FOSDEM https://live.fosdem.org/watch/k4401 [12:48] starts in 2 min [12:51] @alan_griffiths hey you are live ^^ [12:51] wave :D [12:56] awesome thanks ... i cought the flu so fosdem only from the sofa ;( [12:56] Fwd from arudy: The mir talk is going to start :) [12:56] Fwd from arudy: https://fosdem.org/2018/schedule/event/mir/ [12:57] (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc.ubports.com/gB5WTM20/file_4023.jpg [13:10] @TartanSpartan, Yes. its the exact guesture. the second time you tap, dont lift your finger back up. dirctly swipe up and down [13:34] dot [13:34] https://t.me/joinchat/AAAAAAtfczK1cobJMlIXmA [13:35] That's the Ubuntu @ FOSDEM group for Filip [13:38] https://ci.ubports.com/job/xenial-rootfs-armhf/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/out/ubports-touch.rootfs-xenial-armhf.tar.gz [13:39] in theory, can this rootfs be used on Ubuntu Tablet or it has different builds? [13:52] @milkor73, and it's never too late also! [13:55] I have read and understood the porting guide but flashing a phone is scary business the guide could use some large warnings about permanent damage and unrecoverable states etc [13:55] @DiogoConstantino, can you find out what technology is powering their live video stream, Diogo? If possible. Unless someone can tell already from their website. thanks [13:59] hey guys why doesn't ubports use terminal app developed by canonical? [14:04] I can ask a friend in the org [14:04] Possibly OBS, plus something else [14:17] @Corne, Any tools that we use to flash aren't dangerous. You won't brick your phone following the guide. [14:17] @Ismaelbonato, But we do [14:19] But it's so different [14:20] the one in Ubports was created by Canonical [14:21] I think you're talking about the reboot version where has actual tabs and has split screen support [14:23] @Flohack Maybe you had answered this question before but... … What do you think about TDLib? … https://core.telegram.org/tdlib [14:24] @SergioSRM, I answered it before and I said, we are aware of this, we are in communication with Telegram guys and we are currently looking into this already ;) [14:24] Because, during the year Telegramw ills hift protocols probably, so all 3rd party clients need to be updated. And this will break a lot for our existing thingie [14:25] Oh! Good and bad news [14:25] (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/kNJ7mpkL/file_4025.jpg [14:25] @Flohack, Thank you for your answer 👍😊 [14:29] I'm using ubports PPA and nothing seems to work :( including clickable [14:30] (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/pSxcN7UC/file_4027.jpg [14:31] Is that Unity 8? [14:31] Yes [14:31] On my laptop i5 Intel HD mesa [14:32] Libertine and browser either [14:36] I suspect clickable does not export Mir variables, and would need to launch apps with —desktop_hint_file=unity8 set [14:37] At the moment the '--desktop' parameter is meant to be used on X11 desktops, I guess [14:37] Would you mind to fill out a report on GitHub? https://github.com/bhdouglass/clickable/issues [14:40] it happen on x11 [14:40] (Photo, 1014x354) https://irc.ubports.com/X7aFxdcC/file_4029.jpg [14:41] @sverzegnassi, Yes I will do this [14:45] @NotKit, Rootfs is same for all devices [14:46] so only Android system.img is different and it contains overrides? [14:46] There's a device tarball different for each device [14:47] where can I check the one for tablet? (probably closed to mine hardware) [14:48] Poke in the json file on system-image server to find it [14:48] frieza? [14:48] Sure [14:51] It has the bits that define grid units for device, and other such things, iirc [14:51] Don't recall if it provides /custom or not, but I think do [14:55] and disables dialer-app/messaging-app for some reason [14:56] Yes, on tablet it hides them, because, well, it's not a phone [14:56] (I supposed all MediaTek SoCs have modem) [14:57] so you can't make calls from it on purpose or it's not supported by hardware? [14:57] Not supported by hardware [14:57] even in some hardware where you have a sim card slot, you still can't place calls [14:58] And we don't have dynamic capabilities detection for specialized apps like that [14:58] @GranPC, Right, baseband has call/sms disabled [14:58] interestingly enough, some basebands only disable calls - sms still works [14:59] (see: nexus 7 2013) [14:59] And I think some don't connect all the pins on hw for it [15:01] I think Telco also disables on their end, for data only sim customers too [15:02] is there any device that uses ofono-rilplugin MTK2 driver? [15:02] or it was prepared for unreleased device? [15:03] But yes, we got complaints about dialer/messaging apps showing on tablet. So I wrote that bit of code to hide them [15:03] No idea on mtk2 [15:05] I suppose it was started for Meizu MX6 Ubuntu Edition/Helio X20 SoC [15:19] @Ismaelbonato, It works now whe I use this "sudo DISPLAY=:0 clickable —desktop" [15:29] @Ismaelbonato, I suspect the important factor is that "sudo" is losing some environment variable. A wild guess: is QT_QPA_PLATFORM set? [15:33] rootstock-ng is a pain when you don't have recovery :( [15:40] @alan_griffiths, Sorry I have no idea! I started yesterday to play with this [15:54] [ 5.582677] initrd: checking filesystem for userdata took (including e2fsck) 0 seconds … [ 5.589681] Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill init! exitcode=0x00000200 [16:10] Hello, I have problem flashing my BQ E5 with Ubports Installer, I'm doing everything like installer says, but it stops on "Please reboot to bootloader" and repeat "debug: Running platform tool fallback exec asar cmd fastboot devices" in console. My E5 is in fastboot mode of course. I also see my device in dmesg and lsusb. [16:11] Beton: i had same issue on the ubports installer [16:11] Beton: i had to install manually from commandline [16:13] lotuspsychje, so I should use old method? Where can I find tutorial, because i don't remember this, and can't find it on Ubports site? [16:14] Beton: sorry, cant remember the proper command either anymore, as i tested so many tools, magic device tool,ubports installer,snap and git.. [16:15] Beton: i can only say, it worked with manually command from terminal and afterwards i had to enable devel channel because of some bugs [16:19] Also, Ubuntu Installer is misleading for BQ E5, because it says "Press Power + Vol Down for reboot to fastboot", but for BQ E5 this is Power + Vol Up... [16:20] Beton: yeah its not perfect yet [16:23] How can I exit from Fastboot mode? [16:25] Power + Vol Up works [16:28] So I must find old documentation now, because I don't want to brick, it's my only phone ;) [16:31] Beton: try to ask here & idle perhaps [16:31] i think UniSuperBox helped me [16:47] Feb 3 16:40:11 ubuntu-phablet watchdog: 'lightdm' (instance '') hit respawn limit - rebooting [16:47] how can I mask lightdm? [16:51] Create the file `/etc/init/lightdm.override` with the content `manual` [16:52] https://bpaste.net/show/c13a191cf9ae [16:52] hm, key 12, I wonder what is it [16:58] Please, is there any group ubpots in portuguese? [16:58] does UBPorts still use forked libhybris? [16:59] Yeah, we've still our own. [16:59] It's better to see what `logcat` says when Mir fails to launch, though [16:59] @UniversalSuperBox, I rebased your tree on upstream already. Its only a few patches different [17:00] You should be able to update it easily [17:00] @UniversalSuperBox, I started with test_hwcomposer and it fails with test_hwcomposer: test_hwcomposer.cpp:238: int main(int, char**): Assertion `eglGetError() == EGL_SUCCESS' failed., which doesn't happen with normal one [17:02] @JBBgameich, Awesome. Can you submit a PR so Jenkins makes a package? [17:06] does it automatically build package for PRs? [17:06] Yes, if there's a Jenkinsfile [17:06] @JhoeyLennon, There it is: https://t.me/joinchat/ALdCegI_knZj301cCAbSMw [17:06] ~~please include https://github.com/libhybris/libhybris/pull/363 in PR then~~ [17:12] @mattbel10, thank you 😉 [17:13] Nao tem problema Joey, prazer 😃👍 [17:22] I found old tutorial and it's working, updated to latest 15.04 RC. I think this should be available on official UBports site, especially of Ubports Installer not working for some older devices... [17:22] https://web.archive.org/web/20170622144804/https://wiki.ubports.com/wiki/How-to-flash-existing-ubuntu-touch-devices-with-Ubports-images [17:30] I see you have an irc bridge might someone care to share the domain and room I much prefer IRC over telegram [17:32] Freenode #ubports [17:33] The Community Update is timed to start in two hours, is that correct? [17:38] yerp [18:34] @NotKit, Waait. There is a process that can reboot the phone if another process respawns too often? [18:48] maybe it's just upstart? [18:57] @Flohack, yes [18:58] Looking to join the Community Update Live? It's starting right about.... NOW. Get the link at the News Channel and join us and learn more about your UBports community. https://t.me/ubports_news [18:58] @dohbee, Could tjat explain the unforeseen reboots of FP2? [18:59] maybe? [18:59] i mean, it would be in the logs i guess [19:00] I think I could do a fix on one of my community update questions in the forum, what is the common hardware aspect linking cooler freiza and turbo which allow Anbox on them but currently not so on other devices? [19:00] @NotKit, no, there's a watchdog script that reboots phone if things keep crashing [19:00] @Flohack, No, that's kernel problems [19:01] so to build libhybris by hand, better make a copy of UBports rootfs, install build packages and compile it? [19:01] @NotKit, you want to build it on the device? [19:02] I guess that's the fastest way? [19:02] maybe [19:02] @NotKit, https://askubuntu.com/a/623311/50737 [19:02] WILL! I've got yhour back! [19:02] release your inner Durst [19:02] ie "make a chroot" [19:03] WE ARE LIVE ON COMMUNITY UPDATE SO EXPECT THIS CHAT TO SEEM WEIRD IF YOU ARE NOT WATCHING [19:03] @wayneoutthere, as opposed to normal weird? [19:03] @TartanSpartan, Are not qualcomm snapdragon device, in fact are mediatek. There is an issue with qualcomm chipset. … Not that I want to answer instead of a F4, they can do too, but your curiosity is satisfed now. [19:04] @wayneoutthere, \o\ /o/ \o\ /o/ [19:04] Ok so I think I phrased my question correctly in that case. [19:04] guess i'll pause the Shalamar for a while [19:04] so MediaTek supports it, cool [19:05] @TronFortyTwo, turbo is not mtk, it's exynos [19:06] there's nothing specific about the hardware i guess. turbo has the most RAM of supported devices i guess, and cooler/frieza are exactly the same except for screen resolution [19:06] do that again, Jan [19:07] WILLLL! [19:07] get him! [19:07] haha\ [19:08] @dohbee, Oh you're right, [19:08] Was that a donke sound or a city name? [19:11] "The Graveyard of my Failed Dreams " - Will Atwood, 2018 [19:12] and there are 2 canadians now too [19:12] haha [19:13] ;D [19:14] UBports Community Steering Committee "Doing business as - "UBAM" [19:14] @Flohack airports are the best place to join from :P [19:14] love you man. [19:14] ♥️❤️ [19:15] UBAM = UB AMazing [19:16] UBFR = UBports First Responders [19:17] HIGH FIVE FAQ WILL [19:18] 😻😻😻 [19:18] Very nice to see Will in the fold there, he's a stand up guy. [19:18] Yeah, very good words [19:18] we have our new stage man [19:19] well said. this will be available as audio to grab/go. [19:20] panopticon jokes probably not the best thing to make, concerning production of a phone os [19:22] ubuntu touch is not... [19:23] not a word made sense. [19:25] so all the renaming will have to be renamed back to unity8? [19:26] Call to action: Anyone with C+, C++, or with Unity, come! Help! :) [19:27] Want convergence sooner? Come! Help! :) [19:30] lost you marius :) [19:32] Jan - be his spokesman [19:32] does UBPorts Anbox use Android graphics drivers directly, like Alien Dalvik/SFDroid, or through transport layer? [19:34] I'll ask again guys, what's the timescale you're thinking for Anbox and further rollout? [19:39] Thanks Dalton, good to know :) [19:40] (Photo, 2560x1440) https://irc.ubports.com/KcYuYe7H/file_4035.jpg [19:40] Ubuntu and Ubports users at FOSDEM salute you all! [19:40] \o/ [19:40] hey guys at FOSDEM. [19:41] Whats with the sunscreen bottle? [19:41] It finds its way to all the photos :) [19:43] We nees to be prepared for Sunny Brussels! Right @arudy ? [19:45] @mariogrip you having a solid version of Xenial with Anbox as q daily driver is just envy inspiring :p [19:46] *a [19:47] Is Nexus5 16.04 at same stage? [19:48] you should be able to generate automated "changelogs" [19:48] Btw Dalton if you're unsure about the pronunciation of my name, "shayyy-mus" :) [19:48] muhs or moos [19:48] wait [19:49] facepalm [19:49] Former. I'll give you a fistbump if you say it live just now :) [19:50] Sweet info. [19:50]