[02:56] <pi3_> good day, HAppy Friday !!!
[02:57] <pi3_> anyone eating Raspberry Pi tonight?
[02:58] <pi3_> everyone ready for the Superbowl ?
[03:00] <pi3_> In any event, I have been using Ubuntu Mate on the Pie Cubed (it is what I called this Thing) Pi3 is just too basic, Tey should have named this Pi, Pi Squared, Pi Cubed, then OctoPi ...
[03:01] <pi3_> So, this Freenode Chatting Program shows 80 pluus people supposedly, Are you all Live?
[03:01] <pi3_> tough room . . .
[03:58] <g2u_world> hello
[08:42] <WGRM> I want to change the attribute "enable-tree-lines" from "caja" permanently, but can not find any clue. It is not possible via css nor via gtk3 options. Can anybody help?
[08:51] <alkisg> I don't see "enable-tree-lines" anywhere in the caja source code
[08:51] <alkisg> Is that the exact name?
[08:52] <WGRM> Yes
[08:52] <alkisg> grep -r enable-tree-lines . => nothing
[08:52] <alkisg> Try it yourself, apt source caja and grep through it
[08:54] <WGRM> https://imgur.com/a/NRXWb
[08:54] <alkisg> If you mean that you want to add code to caja so that it does something special with treelines, then you need just that, to get the source, add what you want, and compile it
[08:54] <WGRM> Nono, thats exactly what i am trying to avoid. 
[08:55] <alkisg> GtkTreeViews have a lot of properties, sure. But caja doesn't set them, so you need code for that.
[08:55] <alkisg> If caja had code to set them, then you'd be able to configure it
[08:57] <WGRM> Just want to activate the tree lines like in this screen shot: https://imgur.com/a/bon5r
[08:59] <alkisg> Yes I got it, afaik you need to add code for that
[09:00] <WGRM> Isn't there a kind of "assertion" via command or environment variable, which normally is used as debugging?
[09:00] <WGRM> Some tool which can set properties on windows? 
[09:01] <WGRM> Just like some video players can draw on a given window handle.
[09:02] <alkisg> That's xembed
[09:02] <alkisg> Sure I guess it'll be possible to configure other running windows
[09:02] <alkisg> I don't know of any tool that does that by providing it some configuration
[09:03] <alkisg> You can also ask in #mate-dev, maybe someone knows some css trick or something
[09:08] <WGRM> Well, mate-dev might be in another time zone, pretty dead now. I'll be patient. Thanks anyway.
[09:08] <alkisg> np
[09:09] <alkisg> It's weekend, try Europe timezone weekdays
[09:10] <WGRM> 
[10:12]  * WGRM went tired searching for the solution of his problem. I'm off for now.
[10:56] <joe90> anybody there?
[10:57] <diogenes_> 85 people total
[10:58] <joe90> anybody in stoke
[10:59] <diogenes_> !ask
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[11:41] <calfret> Good morning folks!
[11:47] <calfret> Anyone out there use a HOTAS joystick setup?
[16:35] <lostMeUbuntu> hi all. so..  if you installed ubuntu with btrfs and /home on a separate partition.. how you gonna get to your /data in home if that peticular install won't boot no more?
[16:39] <lostMeUbuntu> i can read the root partition files, which is btrfs. but looks like the /home partition acts as if it is encrypted.
[16:40] <diogenes_> lostMeUbuntu, I'd not advice you to create /home on a separate HDD
[16:41] <lostMeUbuntu> diogenes_: its on the same HDD. just another partition.  and its been done. salvaging right now.
[16:42] <diogenes_> well if it's on the same HDD then it's ok, you can get to your data via live usb session
[16:43] <lostMeUbuntu> should that be the same version of uMate?
[16:44] <diogenes_> of course not, it can be even linux mint, ubuntu, xubuntu, lubuntu, manjara and pretty much any distro that has live sesssion
[16:47] <lostMeUbuntu> well. i was installing 17.10 from live usb on another usb drive when things broke down for the previous version install on HDD. grub troubles. i think i tried to access the /home partition then with that live usb.. not sure. will try again.
[16:48] <diogenes_> it should work
[16:49] <lostMeUbuntu> reassuring  :)
[17:01] <alkisg> lostMeUbuntu: if it's encrypted, it might be faster to fix grub and boot from the normal installation
[17:03] <lostMeUbuntu> alkisg: it is encrypted i learned just now.  "aha, then they're encrypted with ecryptfs."
[17:03] <alkisg> lostMeUbuntu: and the problem is just a broken grub?
[17:03] <lostMeUbuntu> yes.  thats causing it.
[17:04] <alkisg> Are you booted from a live cd?
[17:04] <lostMeUbuntu> i was trying to get that fixed a few days ago.
[17:05] <lostMeUbuntu> right now?  no. i booted from another install on same hdd.  mint
[17:05] <alkisg> lostMeUbuntu: Are you booted from a live cd currently?
[17:06] <alkisg> Eh wait if you have grub in another installation,it should be seeing the mate installation
[17:06] <alkisg> So it's not a grub problem then
[17:06] <lostMeUbuntu> yes.  holding on to logic it's not.
[17:07] <lostMeUbuntu> but i ve been probing in grub cli with  cat .... /etc/issue
[17:08] <alkisg> Do you want to fix it or just get the data now?
[17:08] <lostMeUbuntu> and it wont return any linux info from the /root partition of the lost uMate.
[17:09] <lostMeUbuntu> get the data. at least.  but i understand that since it's encrypted, booting into the lost uMate would be the best option.
[17:10] <alkisg> lostMeUbuntu: I have a few minutes to help you via VNC if you like, so that it's done quickly instead of wasting hours in irc...
[17:11] <lostMeUbuntu> would it only take minutes even in VNC then?
[17:12] <alkisg> I believe so, yes
[17:12] <alkisg> If it's a grub or similar issue. If it's more... dunno.
[17:13] <lostMeUbuntu> alkisg:  tnx for the offer, but i pass.
[17:14] <alkisg> np
[17:57] <diogenes_> mate|piterke, hey
[18:50] <mate|12823> yes!
[21:15] <mayank> hey guys can anyone help me setup my unifi controller on this OS please?
[21:17] <mayank> anyone?
[21:18] <chargerplus1> hi
[21:18] <mayank> hi
[22:46] <lostMeUbuntu> can you have a 17.10 btrfs install in a 10GB partition?
[22:46] <diogenes_> lostMeUbuntu, if you don't use snapshots
[22:48] <lostMeUbuntu> it's just to be able to work with the grub problems for now.
[22:48] <diogenes_> why btrfs?
[22:50] <lostMeUbuntu> since the 'lost' 17.04 install is btrfs too.  in #grub i heard i should work fixing grub from a another btrfs install as well then.
[22:53] <diogenes_> lostMeUbuntu, well, a fresh install of the OS should not take more than 7 GB even with all the updates and the software, it doesn't usually go beyond 9 GB