[01:01] <drleviathan> I just reverted to xubuntu-16.04 today, and was setting up the system.  I needed a more recent version of cmake so I downloaded the code and started building it and I noticed a very strange behavior that I've never seen before:
[01:01] <drleviathan> the 'configure' stage of the build is going vveerryy sslloowwllyy
[01:02] <drleviathan> if I kill it and start again it moves along at its normal fast clip and then reaches where it left off and ggeettss rreeaallyy sslooww aaggaaiin
[01:02] <drleviathan> has anyone here seen that before?  know what's up?
[01:41] <lamduh> Is there a good way to get window snapping?
[01:45] <drleviathan> you have window snapping already, but in a "bad" way?  or you have no window snapping at all?
[01:47] <lamduh> Well I like on windows when you can press super+left and you get your window to take up the left half of the screen.
[01:49] <drleviathan> I haven't encountered such a configuration before, but then I don't use most of the available window manipulation hot keys.
[01:50] <drleviathan> Perhaps someone else here knows more.
[01:54] <Andrio> You can do that here too.
[01:55] <Andrio> The default hotkey isn't Super+Left; I changed it to that.
[03:12] <lamduh> Ah really Andrio thanks. I will check that out. Wish it was easier to find the configuration option though.
[03:12] <Andrio> It should be in the Whisker menu, under 'Window manager settings' or something like that
[03:14] <lamduh> thanks...yeah I think I find it with "tile window to the right". I changed the hotkey but doesn't seem to be working. maybe need to logout and in?
[03:14] <Andrio> You shouldn't need to.
[03:14] <Andrio> Is the hotkey you chose used for anything els?
[03:14] <Andrio> e
[03:15] <lamduh> well I think super is used to open the menu or whatever
[03:15] <lamduh> but super+right doesnt do anything
[06:41] <Guest96855> #xubuntu on Freenode
[06:42] <Guest96855> Hello I had a few questions
[06:43] <Guest96855> Will my problems with Xubuntu be solved by Ubuntu forums?
[07:39] <xubuntu31d> HEy
[07:40] <xubuntu31d> I wish to transfer to Xubuntu. I don't have an external hard disk. I'm able to read my files on my Windows installation from the file manager. Any way I can transfer them and install Xubuntu for good/
[11:31] <simpledat> Hi
[11:31] <simpledat> This kernel requires the following features not present on the CPU: pae
[11:32] <simpledat> Unable to boot - please use a kernel appropriate for your CPU.
[11:32] <simpledat> How do I fix this?
[11:32] <EoflaOE> simpledat What is your CPU first, and check if it supports pae.
[11:32] <simpledat> EoflaOE: I use virtualbox
[11:33] <EoflaOE> simpledat Check the settings, you might have missed "PAE/NX support" checkbox.
[11:33] <simpledat> EoflaOE: Ok thanks
[11:33] <simpledat> :)
[11:33] <EoflaOE> You are welcome
[11:35] <simpledat> Should I check "Download updates while installing Xubuntu"?
[11:35] <EoflaOE> simpledat Your choice.
[11:39] <simpledat> Do I have to "Encrypt my home folder" IF I already select LVM encryption?
[11:39] <simpledat> or does LVM encryption include home folder too?
[11:40] <EoflaOE> yes, you have to select "Encrypt my home folder"
[11:40] <simpledat> So the LVM encryption does not include home folder?
[11:40] <simpledat> LVM encryption should be the whole partition, no?
[11:40] <EoflaOE> it encrypts the disk, it should include home
[11:41] <simpledat> So why then encrypt home folder too/again?
[11:41] <EoflaOE> that was my mistake saying that. uncheck the "encrypt home folder"
[11:41] <flocculant> simpledat: re LVM, if you are not using a US keyboard and your password for lvm includes something other than letters or numbers it is likely the password will not match when rebooting. If so - set language and keyboard prior to installing
[11:44] <flocculant> bug 1047384
[11:54] <flocculant> also if you don't tick the ENcrypt home folder then afaik it doesn't encrypt it
[11:54] <simpledat> flocculant: So the LVM encryption does not include the whole disk?
[11:55] <flocculant> not /home/user afaik
[11:55] <flocculant> don't ask me why ...
[11:56] <flocculant> iirc correctly users password does the unlocking of their /home
[12:00] <simpledat> flocculant: Are you sure about /home/user?
[12:01] <simpledat> Anyone that can confirm this?
[12:01] <flocculant> ask in #ubuntu
[12:02] <flocculant> I looked on askubuntu etc
[12:03] <flocculant> simpledat: apart from anything else - if it didn't need to be encrypted seperately then why the box to tick to encrypt it ;)
[12:03] <simpledat> flocculant: Maybe something with the partitions. I dont know
[12:05] <flocculant> simpledat: if it was partitions it would be earlier, when you reach the user section of installer (where encrypt home is) the partitions are set up and in fact the installation is already started
[12:05] <simpledat> flocculant: Because you can select "Something else" and create or resize partitions yourself
[12:05] <flocculant> I know - I test installs pretty much daily as part of xubuntu qa
[12:06] <flocculant> sadly I could tell you what is on each section of the installer without looking ...
[12:12] <simpledat> flocculant: How can you check if your /home/user is encrypted?
[12:12] <flocculant> simpledat: I'm in the middle of trying to test it :)
[12:15] <simpledat> flocculant: Somebody told me this: "FDE is for power-off protection, home directory
[12:15] <simpledat>              encryption is for power-on but user-logged-off protection
[12:16] <flocculant> that makes sense
[12:22] <flocculant> simpledat: ok - so I installed with standard encryption - I also asked it to encrypt the home folder, when I boot and login I see this first time dialogue https://i.imgur.com/ZxzSTd1.png
[12:22] <flocculant> this does NOT get shown when you don't encrypt home folder at installation
[12:26] <flocculant> also - when adding a user on a system with home folder encryption there is an option to encrypt new users home
[12:26] <simpledat> flocculant: What does it mean?
[12:27] <flocculant> that if you don't tick the Encrypt Home folder on installation then it isn't
[12:28] <simpledat> flocculant: So the Encrypt Home folder is for power-off protection too?
[12:28] <flocculant> no
[12:28] <simpledat> Sorry I dont really get it :)
[12:28] <flocculant> :)
[12:29] <flocculant> ok - I run a non encrypted system here - I also have a couple of test users, if I go to /home I see this https://i.imgur.com/6Bi0uUd.png
[12:29] <flocculant> and I can see what is in the other 2 test accounts home folder
[12:30] <flocculant> on the test I just did - with encrypted home for thefirst user and a new test user unencrypted I see this https://i.imgur.com/QLRJeQP.png
[12:30] <flocculant> note that the original user there is locked
[12:31] <flocculant> I'll do one more test install, but basically it appears that not ticking that box ties up with what you were told elsewhere
[12:31] <simpledat> Ok.
[12:45] <flocculant> simpledat: ok last one, this /home from an encrypted system without encrypted /home(s) https://i.imgur.com/t41B2lM.png
[12:45] <flocculant> as you can see neither are now locked
[12:45] <simpledat> mhm
[12:45] <flocculant> hope that helps :)
[12:45] <simpledat> Thanks
[12:46] <flocculant> no problem
[12:46] <simpledat> Do you know how to login as root in terminal?
[12:46] <simpledat> su then type my password doesnt work?
[12:46] <flocculant> root is locked
[12:46] <simpledat> Oh why?
[12:46] <flocculant> I tend to sudo -i
[12:46] <simpledat> Ok
[12:47] <flocculant> not getting into that discussion - check the interwebs for ubuntu and root :)
[12:47] <flocculant> been hashed over for years
[12:47] <simpledat> flocculant: Thank you
[12:47]  * flocculant is off to do some bionic testing now
[12:47] <flocculant> simpledat: you're welcome :)
[12:47] <simpledat> :)
[12:58] <aenderboy> hi, is it possible, that xubuntu is one of the few distros which don't use video hardware acceleration? Besides centOS+xfce i couldn't find any desktop which runs as smoothly as xubuntu in my vm's out of the box.
[13:02] <flux242> xfce doesn't have a decent compositor based on opengl. Maybe this the reason
[13:04] <flux242> as long as everybody are switching to the wayland compositors, xfce devs are planning to inplement their x.org compositor in opnegl sic! They are 10 years late with this task
[13:05] <aenderboy> so xfce doesn't use proper opengl for window rendering which makes it more performant on my vm's ?
[13:08] <flux242> could be. It doesn't interfere with the graphics hw on your system
[13:13] <aenderboy> but this ^ has nothing to do with upgrading from gtk2 to gtk3? because people often blame gtk3 for lags.
[13:29] <simpledat> A critical error has occurred while running the virtual machine and the machine execution has been stopped.
[13:29] <simpledat> What is this about?
[13:29] <cfhowlett> please don't crosspost.  choose a channel
[14:02] <simpledat> Should I install updates with apt-get upgrade or the Software Updater?
[14:03] <cfhowlett> no difference in result. your choice, simpledat
[14:04] <simpledat> cfhowlett: Because I did first upgrade with apt-get, then after reboot Software Updater ask me to upgrade. And then I got this error
[14:04] <simpledat> A critical error has occurred while running the virtual machine and the machine execution has been stopped.
[14:04] <cfhowlett> that's a vm machine error. are your running virtualbox or vmware
[14:04] <simpledat> virtualbox
[14:05] <cfhowlett> your error is on the virtualbox side on your host machine, not in ubuntu
[14:05] <simpledat> But I didnt get this error until I did this 2 upgrades (with apt-get and Software Updater)
[14:05] <cfhowlett> update vbox
[14:05] <simpledat> cfhowlett: It should be the latest version
[14:05] <cfhowlett> ... "should be"
[14:06] <simpledat> 5.2.6
[14:07] <cfhowlett> fwiw: I also get an error my new installed 16.04 with vbox.  ubuntu runs normally
[14:07] <simpledat> And I facing this error after I did the upgrade
[14:08] <simpledat> cfhowlett: Do you know what it could be or how to fix it?
[14:08] <cfhowlett> but ubuntu runs, right?
[14:08] <cfhowlett> No.  I ignore it.
[14:09] <simpledat> cfhowlett: I closed the windows and xubuntu shutdown
[14:09] <simpledat> window
[14:09] <simpledat> Well xubuntu cant run because of that error message, right?
[14:10] <cfhowlett> mine runs just fine.  doesn't yours?
[14:11] <simpledat> cfhowlett: So you mean that I should click on the ignore it buttom?
[14:11] <cfhowlett> works for me
[14:11] <simpledat> But you dont know why I getting this message?
[14:12] <cfhowlett> as I said - something on the host machine side.  you could make a fresh machine and install again
[14:13] <simpledat> cfhowlett: Host machine side? Are you relating to virtualbox?
[14:13] <cfhowlett> yes
[14:17] <simpledat> cfhowlett: Do you know why I had to upgrade with Software Updater as I already upgraded with apt-get?
[14:19] <cfhowlett> I never use either as the command line gives more precise control.  for full update you need to do sudo apt update && sudo apt dist-upgrade          that will grab *all* the update packages in cue
[14:20] <simpledat> cfhowlett: So apt-get upgrade and Software Updater should not give the same upgrades?
[14:20] <cfhowlett> apt upgrade will NOT update all packages
[14:20] <md84> hi, i'm trying to disable font ligatures in xubuntu. i tried the solution from https://superuser.com/questions/678726/how-to-disable-typographic-ligature-when-using-font-hinting-in-xfce
[14:20] <md84> but that didn't work. is there some other way to disable ligatures. i do NOT want to disable hinting completely though
[14:20] <md84> the font i'm using is Monaco on xubuntu 16.04. application: MousePad. without any customization, the font renders fine (without ligatures) in Emacs and the terminal
[14:20] <md84> thanks for any information on how to fix or even to investigate this further.
[14:20] <simpledat> cfhowlett: But Software Updaters include all packages?
[14:22] <cfhowlett> I don't use it and it would depend on the Updates settings
[14:23] <simpledat> cfhowlett: I getting this error by using Software Updater
[14:23] <simpledat> I ignore the message but I get black screen
[14:23] <cfhowlett> for more information use the command line
[14:24] <cfhowlett> wait, black screen on boot?
[14:24] <simpledat> cfhowlett: Do you read my issue here?
[14:24] <simpledat> Yes
[14:24] <cfhowlett> boot to the terminal and run all updates from there.  then reboot normally.
[14:25] <cfhowlett> error messages can be read in dmesg
[14:25] <simpledat> cfhowlett: I mean the error message from virtualbox
[14:26] <cfhowlett> test a new vm or purge / reinstall vox
[14:26] <cfhowlett> vbox
[14:26] <simpledat> virtualbox-5.2 is already the newest version (5.2.6-120293~Debian~stretch).
[14:26] <simpledat> as I said
[14:27] <simpledat> I getting the error from using Software Updater
[14:27] <simpledat> after reboot I see the error message
[14:27] <cfhowlett> dont' use Software updater.  use the command line
[14:28] <simpledat> I did
[14:28] <cfhowlett> also ask #vbox
[14:28] <simpledat> But after reboot Software Updater ask me to upgrade new packages
[14:28] <cfhowlett> what does lsb_release-a tell you
[14:29] <simpledat> I cant check now because I cant boot :P
[14:30] <cfhowlett> boot the terminal
[14:30] <cfhowlett> !recovery
[14:30] <cfhowlett> then run sudo apt update && sudo apt dist-upgrade
[14:30] <cfhowlett> then reboot your host machine and your VM
[19:06] <JoshuaD> i'm looking for a videocard for a desktop machine that uses open source drivers and is well supported by linux/ubuntu. Any suggestions?
[19:12] <CoderEurope> JoshuaD, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIHz3x9j0VI
[19:29] <JoshuaD> @CoderEurope, thnx