| Crell | Hello, peoples. When I installed this 17.10 system a few weeks ago, I set it up with an encrypted hard drive, and otherwise default disk configuration. It set me up with 16 GB swap. I now want to increase it to 32 GB swap. However, gparted doesn't show me a swap partition. It just shows an EFI partition (0.5 GB), a /boot partition, and an encrypted lvm2 partition. So, um, how do I add more swap? | 01:19 |
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| valorie | !swap | 02:10 |
| ubottu | swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info | 02:10 |
| valorie | Crell: ^^^ | 02:11 |
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| Crell | valorie: Hm. So is it 17.10 that uses a swap file rather than partition, or is it because it's an encrypted disk? (I've always used a dedicated swap partition in the past, but haven't encrypted the disk before.) | 03:48 |
| valorie | Crell: that I do not know, but ubuntu as a whole has gone to swapfile | 03:49 |
| valorie | you should be able to use a partition if you want, right? | 03:49 |
| valorie | I didn't re-read the faq in the above link | 03:50 |
| Crell | Presumably; unless doing a resize on an encrypted file system will cause issues(tm). | 03:50 |
| Crell | But if I can just resize an existing swap file that should be adequate as well. (I don't much care which it is as long as it works.) | 03:50 |
| valorie | the folks who wrote that faq know about such stuff and I do not | 03:53 |
| valorie | people in #ubuntu might know more, as well | 03:53 |
| valorie | we sort of specialize in the kubuntu only questions here | 03:53 |
| * Crell nods. | 03:53 | |
| Crell | I've been using Kubuntu for years. I find I have about 50/50 odds between #ubuntu and #kubuntu in getting a question answered. :-) | 03:54 |
| valorie | well, we're friendly | 03:54 |
| valorie | :-) | 03:54 |
| Crell | :-) | 03:54 |
| valorie | but they are a much larger chan | 03:54 |
| Crell | Hm, fstab lists /dev/mapper/cryptswap1 as the swap partition. | 03:55 |
| Crell | Which... I interpret as "you're using an encryped filesystem so we assumed you wanted an encrypted swap too, so we used a swapfile." Which is logical. | 03:55 |
| SJr | When booting kubuntu off a usb stick the USB stick boot process never finshes due to hard disk read errors of my main hard disk. Is there a way to get to a shell quickly. I am trying to recover the data. | 06:03 |
| SJr | I strongly believe the data is readable, I just need to get to a shell and ddrescue it. | 06:04 |
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| valorie | SJr: http://www.system-rescue-cd.org/ is probably a better idea then | 06:08 |
| valorie | much less chrooting, etc. | 06:08 |
| valorie | plus: much smaller, thus faster to boot | 06:08 |
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| SJr | Yeah I already had a Kubuntu 17.04 USB stick | 06:18 |
| SJr | and it eventually booted | 06:18 |
| SJr | but I just tried updating using apt-get and it refused. | 06:18 |
| SJr | Because they are unauthenticated repos. | 06:18 |
| SJr | Why does the live cd refuse to update packages that seems broken. | 06:19 |
| valorie | SJr: what version are you trying to boot? | 06:19 |
| SJr | 17.04 | 06:19 |
| valorie | !eol | 06:19 |
| ubottu | End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades | 06:19 |
| valorie | 17.10 is the current release | 06:19 |
| SJr | oh right | 06:20 |
| valorie | oh, now I see you said that, duh | 06:20 |
| valorie | sorry | 06:20 |
| valorie | you should still be able to get to a shell in the usual way | 06:20 |
| valorie | dunno if you have to chroot in or can run ddrescue as is | 06:21 |
| valorie | !ddrescue | 06:21 |
| SJr | Yeah I did, and then I tried to install ddrescue and apt refused to install anything. | 06:21 |
| SJr | But I guess that's beacuse it's EOL. | 06:21 |
| SJr | So that's fine | 06:21 |
| valorie | oh, it's not there | 06:21 |
| valorie | dd will be | 06:21 |
| SJr | Yeah it's called gddrescue or dd_rescue. | 06:21 |
| valorie | right | 06:21 |
| SJr | but I'm going to download 17.10 and try again tomorrow. | 06:22 |
| valorie | if you already have the ISO on disk, you could just zsync or rsync it | 06:22 |
| valorie | just get the changes | 06:22 |
| valorie | unless you have a fast connection, in which case that is the simplest, yeah | 06:23 |
| valorie | this discusses how to zsync in the commandline: http://linuxgrandma.blogspot.com/2018/01/seeding-new-isos-easy-zsync-way.html | 06:24 |
| SJr | I'm just going to bed anyway | 06:28 |
| SJr | thanks | 06:28 |
| SJr | Cheers | 06:28 |
| valorie | niters | 06:28 |
| valorie | best of luck tomorrow | 06:28 |
| anz | can somebody help me out here | 07:16 |
| anz | little strange thing with my kubuntu 1710 | 07:17 |
| anz | I have bluetooth earphones connected to my laptop | 07:17 |
| valorie | yes? | 07:17 |
| anz | I can see them and they are working | 07:17 |
| anz | I can hear sound from there | 07:17 |
| anz | I put them as a default output | 07:17 |
| anz | now I want to listen to the music from youtube | 07:18 |
| anz | and as soon I hit play on youtube | 07:18 |
| anz | default output is turned to laptops internal speakers | 07:18 |
| valorie | what did you use to route the sound to them, anz? | 07:18 |
| valorie | you probably have to use pulseaudio | 07:19 |
| anz | :) | 07:19 |
| anz | well I didint use anything specifically | 07:19 |
| valorie | which I think is pa-something | 07:19 |
| anz | I thoudht that if I set those earphones as default | 07:19 |
| valorie | pasystray | 07:19 |
| valorie | one would think | 07:19 |
| valorie | but for some reason, pulseaudio doesn't think you mean it unless you specifically set it there | 07:20 |
| hateball | anz: if you click the volume applet while stuff is playing you should be able to see which output it uses, and also change it | 07:20 |
| valorie | :( | 07:20 |
| valorie | hateball: you should indeed | 07:20 |
| anz | yes and from there I see that it uses internal speakers | 07:20 |
| valorie | only on my bluetooth earbuds (the week they worked) -- no worky | 07:20 |
| valorie | except with pasystray | 07:21 |
| valorie | I should have filed a bug | 07:21 |
| valorie | but against what | 07:21 |
| valorie | and then they stopped working anyway | 07:21 |
| valorie | so pfff | 07:21 |
| anz | ok from pa-something I could change the output | 07:21 |
| valorie | pasystray | 07:22 |
| anz | yeah | 07:22 |
| valorie | !info pasystray | 07:22 |
| ubottu | pasystray (source: pasystray): PulseAudio controller for the system tray. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.6.0-1ubuntu1 (artful), package size 43 kB, installed size 128 kB | 07:22 |
| anz | but it sounds / feels like a bug :) | 07:22 |
| valorie | yes | 07:22 |
| anz | correct me if i'm wrong | 07:23 |
| anz | but if you have a working application wich uses some output | 07:24 |
| anz | then from systray | 07:24 |
| anz | you can not change output device? | 07:24 |
| valorie | anz: this is the only time I've had to use the pasystray | 07:26 |
| valorie | mostly kmix Just Works | 07:26 |
| valorie | well, just the volume applet these days I guess | 07:26 |
| hateball | kmix is actually not used by default these days | 07:27 |
| hateball | yes | 07:27 |
| anz | ok | 07:27 |
| lordievader | Good morning | 07:34 |
| valorie | morning, lordievader | 07:35 |
| lordievader | Hey valorie | 07:35 |
| lordievader | How are you doing? | 07:36 |
| valorie | good | 07:36 |
| valorie | did you make it to fossdem? | 07:36 |
| valorie | you go usually, no? | 07:37 |
| lordievader | Not just that, I gave a talk. It was pretty nice :D | 07:37 |
| valorie | oooooo | 07:37 |
| valorie | impressive! | 07:37 |
| valorie | what was your talk? | 07:37 |
| lordievader | Yes, we have been going for the last 4 years or so. | 07:37 |
| lordievader | https://fosdem.org/2018/schedule/event/dns_melting_the_snow/ | 07:37 |
| lordievader | Video is already on that page it seems. | 07:38 |
| lordievader | They are really quick this year with the videos 😁 | 07:38 |
| valorie | very nice! | 07:38 |
| valorie | KDE had a table this year | 07:39 |
| valorie | did you happen by? | 07:39 |
| lordievader | Err, not really. Passed by a couple of times, but didn't really stop and chat. It was quite small compared to other times. | 07:40 |
| valorie | yes, they feel sort of edged out | 07:42 |
| valorie | as if the fossdem organizers think "desktop is a solved problem" and that KDE=desktop | 07:42 |
| valorie | both of which are sort of not true | 07:42 |
| valorie | well, def. not true | 07:43 |
| lordievader | Fedora was still quite large | 07:43 |
| valorie | but the organizers are the ones doing the work after all | 07:43 |
| lordievader | Debian was also a bit smaller. | 07:43 |
| lordievader | Gnome was about the same size. | 07:43 |
| lordievader | I was quite sad when the presenter of a design talk asked: how many of you use {gnome,kde,Mac}. When it turned out there were more Mac users than KDE users.] | 07:45 |
| valorie | yeah | 07:45 |
| valorie | I think a lot of people spent years tinkering now they just want to get on with it | 07:46 |
| valorie | I spend very little time tinkering! | 07:46 |
| valorie | it's really not necessary | 07:46 |
| valorie | but well Macs have all the ads | 07:48 |
| valorie | your project sounds fascinating | 07:54 |
| valorie | is there a way someone like the KDE sysadmins could use it or contribute their info? | 07:54 |
| valorie | listening to some music already or I'd listen to your talk now | 07:54 |
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| IrcsomeBot1 | Erik was added by: Erik | 09:51 |
| lordievader | valorie: Err, unless they deal with attacks which make use of DNS I do not think it is of much use for KDE. | 10:20 |
| calico | When I try rebooting I get " plasma workspace logout cancelled by viber". If I try rebooting again - it works. Any suggestions? | 10:42 |
| calico | https://i.imgur.com/JjPjr5d.png | 10:42 |
| shanemikel_ | how has Canonical's disavowal of the desktop, and the Ubuntu GNOME merger effected Kubuntu (in my estimation the best KDE distro avail.)? will Ubuntu remain the best desktop (with out-of-box UEFI support, automatic setup of home dir encryption, and the only reliable system WRT discrete graphics hardware)? | 11:00 |
| shanemikel_ | and what ever happened to NEON? did they merge with Kubuntu development? | 11:01 |
| shanemikel_ | man... if only Canonical would ask I'd be happy to pay a modest fee for a nice hybrid staged/rolling distro (perfect stability compromise IMO) with reliable discrete gfx support and OOB proprietary multimedia support (dvd, mp3, etc.)... | 11:10 |
| shanemikel_ | add some lobby influence with nvidia, amd, intel, and some muscle behind Qt and the KDE desktop... I'll pay an annual support/licence fee on the order of MS Office, no problem | 11:14 |
| shanemikel_ | So are Kubuntu devs flocking to other base systems, or is Kubuntu (and Ubuntu Desktop) still the obvious mid-term (2-6 year) choice for desktop linux? | 11:22 |
| hateball | shanemikel_: I don't think there's been any kind of exodus | 11:25 |
| hateball | calico: that's a known bug with certain apps, I think it is fixed in upstream plasma | 11:25 |
| calico | thanks hateball | 11:26 |
| hateball | for instance Steam had the same thing, but they patched Steam so it now works | 11:26 |
| hateball | I dont know the specifics as to why it prevented clean shutdown in the first place tho | 11:27 |
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| BluesKaj | howdy folks | 15:14 |
| vlad__ | тут есть русские? | 15:15 |
| krytarik | !ru | vlad__ | 15:16 |
| ubottu | vlad__: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke. | 15:16 |
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| memphisto | Hi | 21:48 |
| memphisto | i have leftovers in kicker from wine apps | 21:49 |
| memphisto | how do i remove them | 21:49 |
| memphisto | i used application editor to remove them but they still appear in search | 21:50 |
| Guest57154 | does anybody know if we get Plasma 5.12 on 18.04? | 22:27 |
| acheronuk | Guest57154: you will, yes | 22:27 |
| acheronuk | when it's been uploaded | 22:28 |
| Guest57154 | and do you know by any chance if the kubuntu ppa will bring 5.12 also to 16.04? | 22:29 |
| Guest57154 | and thus also to the last iteration of Linux Mint KDE? | 22:29 |
| acheronuk | no, it won't. not for 16.04 | 22:30 |
| Guest57154 | that's a real pity! | 22:30 |
| Guest57154 | thanks for telling me! | 22:30 |
| acheronuk | Guest57154: it needs too large a jump in Qt version to backport for us to 16.04 | 22:31 |
| Guest57154 | oK. | 22:31 |
| Guest57154 | you seem well informed. so maybe... | 22:31 |
| acheronuk | ? | 22:32 |
| Guest57154 | ...you can tell me if there are plans... | 22:32 |
| acheronuk | there are many plans | 22:33 |
| Guest57154 | to give kde connect the ability to sync kontakts and kalender between android phones and a Plasma desktop. | 22:33 |
| Guest57154 | i switched from Win7 to Linux for privacy reasons, but there does not seem to be a program on linux that does local sync like that. | 22:34 |
| acheronuk | sadly, I don't know | 22:34 |
| Guest57154 | on windows there is a program called myphoneexplorer... | 22:34 |
| Guest57154 | but the developer has no interest in porting it... | 22:34 |
| Guest57154 | do you know where I could ask that and get an answer? | 22:35 |
| acheronuk | in #kde or #kde-devel maybe | 22:37 |
| acheronuk | but it would be pot luck on catching someone who might know | 22:37 |
| Guest57154 | i will try that, thanks! | 22:37 |
| Guest57154 | i am very new to irc. | 22:37 |
| Guest57154 | well, one has to try, right? ;-) | 22:38 |
| Guest57154 | else things will nevee happen. | 22:38 |
| acheronuk | very true | 22:38 |
| Guest57154 | unfortunately i am not a developer, else I might just try to write that app myself. | 22:39 |
| Guest57154 | but actually that seems like a function that should really be a part of KDE connect. | 22:40 |
| acheronuk | it would be useful | 22:41 |
| ronnoc | Guest57154: You might have a look at kolab (kolabnow.com). It's a paid service, but 100% open source and works on any platform and integrates with Thunderbird, Kontact, Android, etc/ plus has web client. You can also host it yourself for free if desired. | 23:18 |
| ronnoc | I use them because they are privacy-focused and open source. Also, they are developing Kube, which they have touted as KMail's successor. | 23:19 |
| TheFocus | Monring. I'm currently running Kubuntu 16.10 which I think is now EOL. How do I upgrade to another long term support... Don't have the time to probellm solve fixes at the moment. | 23:57 |
| TheFocus | Or do I need to downgrade for a LTS??? | 23:58 |
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