[00:17] <parhelia> ... lol
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[01:41] <LargePrime> needed in #qt-chat
[01:41] <LargePrime> !ops
[01:41] <LargePrime> needed in #qt-chat
[01:41] <krytarik> LargePrime: Not our problem.
 (Photo, 1008x1280) https://i.imgur.com/3KFHc7U.jpg
 Wrong chat I assume? .___.
 Nope
 .______.
 I mean, yes
 Sorry
[10:10] <gopal> anyone online ?
[10:11] <LioneLL> ?
[10:11] <gopal> how to do this ?  Let's see how fast the battery drains. To do this, please attach the output of "grep . /sys/class/power_supply/*/*" just before shutdown, and then leave the laptop for like 1 hour, boot it again and attach the output of "grep . /sys/class/power_supply/*/*" and please do this test for both bad and good case, where good case means you can remove the battery and plug it again after shutdown
[10:11] <gopal> grep say : Is a directory
[10:12] <gopal> how to find output ?
[10:14] <LioneLL> .../*/* should be folder & name of the file of output
[10:19] <s10gopal> LioneLL: ?
[11:27] <simpledat> Hi
[11:27] <simpledat> I am trying to install it says "Unsafe swap space detected"
[11:39] <laceylaney> simpledat: Select (Try Ubuntu) instead of (Install Ubuntu). When the desktop has loaded open up a terminal window and type (sudo swapoff --all) without the brackets. Once done close the terminal window and proceed to install from the installer icon on the desktop.
[11:40] <simpledat> laceylaney: But why this error message at all?
[11:41] <laceylaney> I think there is some form of bug were the installer doesn't properly create a swap partition or something like that....
[11:41] <laceylaney> Have a look at >> https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Unsafe+swap+space+detected+lubuntu&oq=Unsafe+swap+space+detected+lubuntu&aqs=chrome..69i57.3072j0j1&client=ubuntu&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
[11:43] <simpledat> Why are the lubuntu devs not fixing this bug?
[11:43] <laceylaney> I have no idea....
[11:43] <laceylaney> It might actually be fixed in the newest release, but I can't tell....
[11:45] <simpledat> laceylaney: I used Lubuntu 17.10.1
[11:45] <laceylaney> Let us know if you get sorted....
[11:45] <krytarik> Not every issue is trivial to fix - also see LP #1205397 for more info.
[11:46] <simpledat> n0a110w: Imm getting the message with Lubuntu 17.10.1 installing onto a fresh unformatted virtual disk in virtualbox
[11:46] <laceylaney> I need to start looking on launchpad more often lol
[12:06] <simpledat> Wierd, because I not getting this error message by installing Xubuntu
[12:13] <krytarik> Yes, because that doesn't use zRAM.
[18:08] <s10gopal>  https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=198665 can be fixed?
[18:09] <wxl> s10gopal: it looks like you're in conversation with the right people about it no the bug report, so why ask here?
[18:10] <wxl> s10gopal: if it's a problem with the upstream kernel, the kernel developers are the most likely folks to resolve the issue.
[18:10] <s10gopal> wxl: i dont know i should wait for fix or switch back to windows
[18:10] <s10gopal> wxl: same issue with ubuntu kernel too
[18:10] <wxl> s10gopal: i don't know. what do you do when windows has a problem? do you switch to something else?
[18:10] <s10gopal> wxl: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1745646
[18:19] <hggdh> s10gopal: please stop posting this bug on many channels. You already have it on kernel.org and on #u-kernel
[20:22] <Thedarkb-X40> Minor issue, you know when you open the terminal and the prompt is prefixed with username@computer
[20:23] <Thedarkb-X40> How do I change my computer's name?
[20:23] <Thedarkb-X40> I need to give myself plausible deniability for something.
[20:23]  * Thedarkb-X40 is kidding
[20:31] <Thedarkb> Fixed, it's in /etc/hostname
[20:35] <Thedarkb-X40> I lent this IBM X40 to someone who did something dumb with a network printer and I wanted to change my hostname.
[21:05] <Motoko_Kusanagi> hey folks, I'm using LXLE with 3 panels, and the logout box always appears on the right monitor. Looks like it's managed by "lxsession-logout" - does anyone know how I can make it use my center panel? Tried using --screen and --display options without success.
[21:06] <redwolf> it's a launcher, Motoko_Kusanagi. you should be able to add another on any panel
[21:09] <Motoko_Kusanagi> redwolf: have all my panel stuff set up just fine, all the main items on the center panel (inc. menu), and just task switchers left and right... but whenever I go to logout, the box appears on the right screen :\
[21:10] <Motoko_Kusanagi> I can see "quit_manager/command=lxsession-logout" in my lxsession conf, and that command accepts screen and display params, but still no joy
[21:10] <redwolf> ah, sorry, you mean the dialog
[21:10] <Motoko_Kusanagi> correct
[21:10] <cristian_c> redwolf, an user has suggested me to install gnome tweak tool. I did it, but even if changes were recorder by the application. that has have been not effect on theme settings
[21:10] <redwolf> hmm... maybe wmctrl can control that window, but I never tried that
[21:10] <redwolf> gnome-tweak-tool? what for?
[21:10] <Motoko_Kusanagi> redwolf: thanks, I'll have a look
[21:11] <redwolf> sorry I can't help more
[21:11] <Motoko_Kusanagi> np
[21:11] <cristian_c> redwolf: I've tried also to change  values in settings.ini, and again changes are saved but they  have no effects on window theme
[21:12] <redwolf> I see. tsimonq2 if you find info about this, it would be nice
[21:12] <cristian_c> redwolf: gtk developer says issue does not depends on gtk, but is related to system
[21:13] <redwolf> I couldn't tell. but if the problem is the window itself, it's a wm class problem (so openbox)
[21:13] <cristian_c> he's sure vzlues in settings.ini are read
 I don't know if LXLE does different things to their packages, sorry
[21:13] <cristian_c> redwolf: for example: 'Software' that replaces lubuntu software center
[21:13] <cristian_c> officially
[21:14] <cristian_c> redwolf: ah, ok
[21:14] <cristian_c> of course
[21:14] <redwolf> but this is Lubuntu, as tsimonq2 says, we can't be sure about what LXLE team did inside LXDE desktop
[21:15] <redwolf> same for Peppermint or any other derivative / fork
[21:15] <cristian_c> I've changed theme from adwait to lubuntu-default, but it has no effects, so maybe you're right
[21:16] <redwolf> theme and any app you could install can't possibly affect the behaviour of windows
[21:16] <cristian_c> redwolf: I've tried lxde on archlinux too, todsy, I'll try also on fedora lxde
[21:16] <redwolf> you could try Lubuntu :|
[21:17] <cristian_c> redwolf: yeah, I already use Lubuntu
[21:17] <redwolf> ah, sorries, I thought you were using LXLE
[21:17] <cristian_c> I'm testing the existence of the isse on another distros too
[21:17] <redwolf> nice
[21:17] <cristian_c> *of the issue
[21:18] <cristian_c> archlinux lxde seems not affected by the issue regarding Gedit, but I'llctry also on fedora in order to be sure
[21:18] <redwolf> ok
[21:18] <redwolf> let us know!
[21:18] <cristian_c> ok
[21:19] <cristian_c> redwolf: ebassi suggests to change css of the theme, anyway
[21:19] <redwolf> O.o
[21:19] <cristian_c> and I suppose, to rebuild the theme package
[21:19] <redwolf> css can't control windows either
[21:19] <cristian_c> redwolf: you said sizemof buttons is not adjustable by GUI
[21:19] <cristian_c> *from gui
[21:20] <redwolf> themes are only for appearance. not apps position or windows sizes
[21:20] <cristian_c> ah, ok
[21:20] <redwolf> you'd have the same problems with the Adapta, Elementary or Adwaita themes
[21:21] <cristian_c> yeah, Gnome-software (pre-installed in Lubuntu) and gedit use adwaita as default theme
[21:22] <cristian_c> but theme can be changed in settings.ini, in .config/gtk3.0, in lubuntu home
[21:22] <cristian_c> (or by gnome tweak tool)
[21:22] <redwolf> well, not really .we already discussed this. those are CSD windows, controlled by the gtk theme Lubuntu Box
[21:23] <redwolf> theme should be changed only with the LXAppearance tool
[21:23] <redwolf> editing .config/gtk-3.0 might destabilise your open / save dialogs or make worse things
[21:23] <cristian_c> yeah, during this time, gtk developer says gtk theme works as expected
[21:24] <Motoko_Kusanagi> awesome, fixed one issue: primary monitor being reset after login (removed dualDisplay from autostart :P)
[21:24] <redwolf> :)
[21:24] <Motoko_Kusanagi> now if I could just figure out how to get lxsession-logout to appear in the middle, my OCD would be satisfied :D
[21:24] <cristian_c> redwolf: current system theme is lubuntu-default, as lizted in lxappearance, but some apllications ignore it
[21:25] <cristian_c> for example, gnome aoftware, that has replaces lsc
[21:25] <redwolf> no they don't. which ones?
[21:25] <redwolf> gnome-software and gedit use a slightly different window borders and ambiance-like buttons, but it's still Lubuntu theme
[21:26] <redwolf> do you remember I talked to you about the CSD windows a couple days ago? ;)
[21:26] <cristian_c> yeah, lubuntu defalt has a grey titlebar (with gradient)
[21:26] <redwolf> yes, and a white-ish titlebar for CSD apps
[21:27] <redwolf> it was impossible to make them look in a more uniform way
[21:27] <redwolf> I tried though
[21:27] <cristian_c> redwolf: but close , minimize and maximize buttons displayed in gnome-spftware are not the same buttons that in lubuntu default theme
[21:27] <redwolf> no, they're rendered by gtk, not by the window manager itself. so they look a bit different
[21:28] <cristian_c> I made also a screenahot some days ago
[21:28] <cristian_c> redwolf: yeah, you're right , they are rendeed by gtk
[21:28] <redwolf> yes
[21:28] <cristian_c> and I'd like to change the se buttons
[21:29] <redwolf> then you'll have to select another gtk theme
[21:29] <cristian_c> replacing the vuttons, , if there are no tricks
[21:29] <cristian_c> redwolf: ah, ok
[21:29] <cristian_c> so, lubunt-default theme cannot be selected
[21:29] <redwolf> it can, you had it
[21:29] <cristian_c> I mean, if a change gtk theme to lubuntu-default, it doesn't work
[21:30] <redwolf> I think I'm not explaining myself
[21:30] <cristian_c> 'you'll have to select another gtk theme'
[21:30] <redwolf> Lubuntu theme includes a gradient grey titlebar for gtk2 apps, and a ambiance-like for gtk3 apps (like software and gedit)
[21:31] <cristian_c> ambiance
[21:31] <redwolf> they look different. period. if you want them to look different, just select another theme in box LXAppearance gtk and   borders
[21:31] <cristian_c> so, I've to figure out where ambiance setting is locsted
[21:37] <cristian_c> redwolf: in Borders: Theme tab has Lubuntu-default selected, Titlebar tab  has just font size settings for title, and third tab has font settings for menu
[21:37] <redwolf> yes, and first tab has gtk
[21:37] <redwolf> I recommend you to go to https://www.gnome-look.org and look for more themes
[21:38] <cristian_c> do you mean about instalkig a new theme and change the lubuntu-default theme to a gtk 3 theme?
[21:39] <cristian_c> for all lubuntu applications
[21:39] <cristian_c> ?
[21:39] <redwolf> lubuntu-default already is a gtk3 and gtk2 theme (and openbox)
[21:39] <redwolf> but yes, to try something else
[21:39] <redwolf> for ALL applications in your desktop
[21:40] <cristian_c> redwolf: ok, but I don't have issues with lubuntu applications, except gnome software and suchlike
[21:40] <redwolf> then try another theme. that's all I can recommend you
[21:40] <cristian_c> but I understand what ypu say
[21:40] <cristian_c> *you
[21:40] <redwolf> :)
[21:41] <cristian_c> redwolf: ok, but I don't know which themes have effect and which not
[21:42] <cristian_c> I've already tried some theme in Theme tab, and they had no effects on buttons, which are rendered by gtk and not by window manager,, as you said
[21:42] <redwolf> then download more
[21:42] <cristian_c> ok
[21:45] <cristian_c> unfortunately, again , if I chosse Clearlooks-olive from Theme tab and then Apply
[21:46] <cristian_c> titlebar becomes green in almost all the applications
[21:46] <redwolf> https://www.gnome-look.org/browse/cat/135/ord/latest/
[21:46] <cristian_c> while gnome software continies to have grey titlebat
[21:46] <cristian_c> *grey lubuntu-default titlebar
[21:46] <redwolf> Clearlooks is a very old theme. it has no support for CSD windows
[21:46] <redwolf> please, download a NEW theme from that website
[21:47] <cristian_c> so, also titlebar ia not renedered by window amanger in thia case
[21:47] <cristian_c> ok, I've just did a test
[21:47] <tsimonq2> redwolf: Like the Lubuntu Arc theme? .___.
[21:47] <cristian_c> ok
[21:47]  * tsimonq2 runs
[21:47] <redwolf> .___.
[21:47] <redwolf> yes, like the forthcoming Lubuntu Arc theme ;)
[21:55] <cristian_c> I've found arc openbox theme
[21:55] <cristian_c> in gnome look, dated 2017
[21:55] <redwolf> there's Arc for everything out there
[21:56] <cristian_c> ok, but gnome look search has given a few clues, in results, about search string' lubunt arch theme' or 'lubuntu arc'
[21:57] <redwolf> "Lubuntu Arc" will come in the next Lubuntu version
[22:00] <cristian_c> ok
[22:08] <cristian_c> redwolf: again, arc openbox theme has been properly applied and all windows have accepted the theme (chromium included), but gnome software does not apply the theme
[22:08] <cristian_c> and arc is a recent theme (not old one)