calimero_82 | hi | 11:14 |
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calimero_82 | i ve a problem with lxpanel, system panel doesn t work well | 11:14 |
leszek | please give more details what the issue is | 11:20 |
calimero_82 | when i start a software,like telegram redshift drobox etc, it doesnt appear on the bar on the right | 11:24 |
calimero_82 | to see if it works i must see process manager | 11:25 |
calimero_82 | i ve lubuntu 1604 | 11:26 |
calimero_82 | exechat, for example, works | 11:26 |
calimero_82 | before it works, when i ve done autoremove, after i ve uninstall pulseaudio, lxde was disappearenced, i ve reinstalled pulse audio, lubuntu-desktop and the softwares in the log of apt | 11:29 |
calimero_82 | do u understand? | 11:30 |
laceylaney | Anyone here ever tried compiling irc.c ?? | 12:38 |
laceylaney | https://c9x.me/irc/ | 12:38 |
rakvium | Hello! Lubuntu 16.04.3 magnet link goes with file named lubuntu-16.04.2-desktop-i386.iso. Is it a typo? | 13:11 |
rakvium | Yes, the direct download for Lubuntu Desktop 16.04 is 16.04.3 and the magnet link is 16.04.2 (however it's dn is still 16.04.3). | 13:41 |
lubot | <tsimonq2> @rakvium, What site are you getting this from? | 13:48 |
rakvium | @tsimonq2, https://lubuntu.me/downloads/ | 14:39 |
lubot | <tsimonq2> @rakvium, Hm, idk :) | 15:15 |
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lubot | <VikingRedwolf> I'll check it out immediately | 17:52 |
lubot | <VikingRedwolf> @rakvium, checked. and no? | 18:54 |
iGullyGuy | When is lxqt coming? | 21:52 |
iGullyGuy | 18 or delayed again? | 21:52 |
redwolf | tsimonq2 knows | 21:52 |
* redwolf runs | 21:52 | |
tsimonq2 | iGullyGuy: Why do you ask? | 21:53 |
redwolf | no, 18.04 will have a LXQt spin | 21:53 |
iGullyGuy | tsimonq2: I've been waiting since 16.04 for it :) | 21:56 |
iGullyGuy | redwolf: spin? | 21:56 |
redwolf | I mean, an ISO | 21:57 |
iGullyGuy | So, it's releasing with 18? That's what you're saying?? | 21:58 |
tsimonq2 | Maybe yes, maybe no. | 21:58 |
tsimonq2 | :P | 21:58 |
iGullyGuy | 😂 | 21:58 |
Thedarkb-X40 | I tried LXqt and it left me with 3k of RAM free. | 21:58 |
Thedarkb-X40 | WITH NOTHING ELSE OPEN | 21:58 |
tsimonq2 | Thedarkb-X40: we did fix a lot of memory leaks recently | 21:59 |
tsimonq2 | Either way, LXDE won't be around for much longer. | 21:59 |
redwolf | we're working hard for it, so I hope so | 21:59 |
Thedarkb-X40 | It was like that immediately after login. | 21:59 |
Thedarkb-X40 | What's happening to LXDE? | 21:59 |
Thedarkb-X40 | Client: HexChat 2.12.4 • OS: Ubuntu "artful" 17.10 • CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1.40GHz (600MHz) • Memory: Physical: 222.1 MiB Total (63.7 MiB Free) Swap: 945.3 MiB Total (778.3 MiB Free) • Storage: 6.9 GB / 30.0 GB (23.2 GB Free) • VGA: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device @ Intel Corporation 82852/82855 GM/GME/PM/GMV Processor to I/O Contr | 21:59 |
Thedarkb-X40 | oller • Uptime: 37m 47s | 21:59 |
Thedarkb-X40 | for reference | 21:59 |
tsimonq2 | Thedarkb-X40: How much RAM do you have, 256 MB? XD | 21:59 |
Thedarkb-X40 | Yeah, 256mb | 21:59 |
tsimonq2 | Thedarkb-X40: LXDE is GTK 2. It'll be deprecated eventually. | 21:59 |
Thedarkb-X40 | Video card takes some. | 21:59 |
Thedarkb-X40 | I thought it was just a panel running on top of openbox. | 22:00 |
Thedarkb-X40 | This is the laptop I take with me places where I wouldn't normally bring a laptop for fear of it getting broken. | 22:01 |
tsimonq2 | Yeah, idk | 22:02 |
tsimonq2 | LXQt has more memory requirements | 22:02 |
tsimonq2 | Very very slightly | 22:02 |
Thedarkb-X40 | It was using 1.7 times as much as LXDE on my machine. | 22:03 |
tsimonq2 | But we can't support old old software *forever* | 22:03 |
tsimonq2 | Well, YMMV | 22:03 |
tsimonq2 | 1.7 times more for you is just a few MB :) | 22:03 |
Thedarkb-X40 | I don't even use LXDE. | 22:03 |
Thedarkb-X40 | I use openbox+fbpanel | 22:03 |
tsimonq2 | ok | 22:03 |
Thedarkb-X40 | Which gives me the same functionality with lower RAM usage. | 22:03 |
tsimonq2 | For an extremely small system like that, I can see it | 22:04 |
Thedarkb-X40 | I browse with Midori | 22:04 |
Thedarkb-X40 | https://pasteboard.co/H6ryjUz.png | 22:05 |
redwolf | midori has been replaced for epiphany-browser. it's no longer maintained | 22:05 |
Thedarkb-X40 | Looks good, don#'t you think? | 22:05 |
Thedarkb-X40 | Yes, but I can't run epiphany | 22:05 |
redwolf | anyways midori runs very well | 22:06 |
redwolf | I liked that browser | 22:06 |
Thedarkb-X40 | It's a tiny bit unstable. | 22:06 |
Thedarkb-X40 | I'd say I get about a crash a week. | 22:06 |
Thedarkb-X40 | Then again, there were times when firefox was worse. | 22:06 |
redwolf | it's way lighter and faster now :) | 22:07 |
Thedarkb-X40 | When I had Windows 98 and I was using the extended service release. | 22:07 |
Thedarkb-X40 | I tried the new firefox on this rig but it acted like it wanted to die. | 22:07 |
redwolf | long time ago :) | 22:08 |
Thedarkb-X40 | I'm going to try out epiphany. | 22:08 |
Thedarkb-X40 | again | 22:08 |
Thedarkb-X40 | Might try doing some tweaking | 22:08 |
genii | Falkon is interesting. Might be good on LXQt | 22:08 |
Thedarkb-X40 | Openbox isn't going anywhere, right? | 22:09 |
redwolf | Thedarkb-X40, you can use "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3" | 22:09 |
redwolf | Openbox is also dead-software, like most Box-ish WMs | 22:09 |
Thedarkb-X40 | Really. | 22:09 |
Thedarkb-X40 | That sucks. | 22:09 |
redwolf | OpenBox, IceWM, Fluxbox... | 22:10 |
* genii covers Unit193's ears so he doesn't have to hear the Openbox disses | 22:10 | |
tsimonq2 | genii: That's what Lubuntu Next uses, Falkon. | 22:10 |
Thedarkb-X40 | I used to use IceWM, got sick of messing with config files all the time. | 22:10 |
Thedarkb-X40 | I liked the themes | 22:10 |
redwolf | IceWM was awesome, then I discovered xfwm and fell in love :) | 22:10 |
redwolf | I mean the good old xfce, the one like CDE | 22:11 |
Thedarkb-X40 | Why are boxish WMs dying out? | 22:11 |
redwolf | but I'm a dinosaur who loves ancient environments | 22:11 |
Thedarkb-X40 | Are there any still in development? | 22:11 |
redwolf | box-ish wms are not compatible with Wayland, and they don't support well compositing | 22:11 |
redwolf | no, they stopped development of OpenBox | 22:11 |
Thedarkb-X40 | What am I going to use then? | 22:12 |
Thedarkb-X40 | On this machine? | 22:12 |
Thedarkb-X40 | Can I just stay on X11? | 22:12 |
redwolf | LXQt will run there, if you don't activate any effec t | 22:12 |
genii | tsimonq2: Ah, nice. | 22:12 |
Thedarkb-X40 | When will LXDE be removed? | 22:12 |
Thedarkb-X40 | Because when the LTS is out, I'm jumping on it. | 22:12 |
Unit193 | Thedarkb-X40: http://git.openbox.org/?p=mikachu/openbox.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/work | 22:12 |
Thedarkb-X40 | This machine'll probably be dead by the next LTS | 22:13 |
redwolf | not really removed. but his developer is keeping it a bit "frozen" from now on | 22:13 |
redwolf | O.O mikachu! | 22:13 |
Thedarkb-X40 | How long do thinkpads normally live for...... | 22:13 |
Thedarkb-X40 | But seriously, will there be any alternatives to boxy WMs for luddites like me? | 22:14 |
redwolf | old wms won't be removed from the Ubuntu repositories | 22:14 |
Thedarkb-X40 | Is Wayland backwards compatible with X11? | 22:14 |
redwolf | you can always use a NET installer and build a basic XOrg system | 22:14 |
Thedarkb-X40 | That's reassuring. | 22:14 |
redwolf | I think even my beloved OLWM is still there XD | 22:15 |
Thedarkb-X40 | I actually used IceWM with Lubuntu up until 3 months ago. | 22:15 |
Thedarkb-X40 | The menu system is the only real issue with IceWM. | 22:16 |
Thedarkb-X40 | It doesn't build them automatically. | 22:16 |
Thedarkb-X40 | Remember FVWM95? | 22:16 |
redwolf | look ;) http://www.os-museum.com/linux/suse53/suse53wm/suse53wm.htm | 22:17 |
Thedarkb-X40 | I honestly don't like FVWM, but I did like FVWM95 | 22:18 |
redwolf | I used CDE , OLWM and, a lot, WindowMaker | 22:18 |
redwolf | I still think the concept of "squared docks" is superior. so simple and effective | 22:18 |
redwolf | but that's a matter of taste also | 22:19 |
Thedarkb-X40 | I like LXDE as it is now. | 22:19 |
Thedarkb-X40 | I tried to install it on an android phone. | 22:19 |
redwolf | well, LXQt isn't very different | 22:19 |
redwolf | O.O! | 22:19 |
Thedarkb-X40 | That's also reassuirng. | 22:19 |
Thedarkb-X40 | reassuring | 22:19 |
Thedarkb-X40 | I'm typing at an odd angle. | 22:19 |
Thedarkb-X40 | I still maintain that the Windows 95 interface is only beaten by LXDE. | 22:31 |
redwolf | yes, that desktop paradigm will be alive for a while | 22:34 |
redwolf | even now, Budgie and Gnome have "panelised" docks | 22:34 |
Thedarkb-X40 | Yeah, I just retried epiphany, I can't get it to run. | 22:40 |
Thedarkb-X40 | Well, it runs but it won't load a page. | 22:41 |
siloxid | I'm using a third-party window manager which is loaded from a .xsession file. when I dist-upgrade it ignores this file and drops me into the default WM. how do I make it keep using the third-party WM? | 22:48 |
Thedarkb | At the login prompt, there's a drop down to select your window manager. | 22:50 |
wxl | siloxid: my suggestion is to set it with lxsession's default apps. more better: set it to x-window-manager and then use update-alternatives to set to your preferred window manager | 22:50 |
siloxid | ok, thanks | 22:51 |
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