[02:09] i'm running bionic. after latest update my syslog is full of stacktraces of org.gnome.Shell.desktop: https://pastebin.canonical.com/209228/ [02:28] bjf, I see the same stacktraces while working on Gnome 3.28 (not in Ubuntu yet). However the shell works... Still I think you should log a bug [02:40] bug filed ... lp: #1747566 [02:40] Launchpad bug 1747566 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "org.gnome.Shell.desktop stacktraces; tweener.js" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1747566 [02:49] bjf, cool, thanks [02:51] bjf, I had thought that was a regression in mutter 3.27... so seeing it in bionic is actually encouraging to me [03:33] the extra logging was an intentional change in gjs to help diagnose problems in gnome-shell (or extensions) [05:25] jbicha, do you have any ideas about when either 3.26.3 or 3.27 will arrive in bionic? [07:30] good morning [07:32] Morning didrocks [07:33] hey duflu [07:38] Depending on your timezone, happy Falcon Heavy launch day [07:39] -launch +explosion ... not sure yet [07:59] hi didrocks, duflu [08:00] Hi jamesh. Home yet? [08:00] duflu: yeah. I got home yesterday afternoon [08:01] first two flights were delayed, and I got rebooked on a later flight for the last leg === maclin1 is now known as maclin [08:16] jamesh, sounds pretty normal... over the pacific? [08:16] Pacific [08:17] yeah. Seattle -> LA -> Brisbane -> Perth [08:22] hey jamesh [08:41] morning all [08:42] good morning desktopers [08:42] Hi willcooke, seb128 [08:42] hey willcooke duflu [08:43] hey willcooke, seb128 [08:43] re didrocks :) [08:44] duflu, do you know how pulseaudio migrated? did somebody decided to ignore the gsequencer autopkg issue? [08:44] seb128, by the willpower of vorlon... [08:44] lol [08:44] We wanted it so, and it happened [08:45] -We +He [08:47] I was pondering asking somebody to skip the autopkg results but was unsure that was right [08:47] good, that way I don't have to decide :) [08:51] * didrocks going to do some X session transition tests, rebooting multiple times, bbl [09:00] ok, need to patch GDM thus… [09:08] Oh yeah, forgot about this... under xorg and specically the Unity session, tap to click on a touchpad is reported to not work (need to test here) is that likely to be because of libinput? [09:09] willcooke, that's a setting you can toggle in Settings. Has (whoever) looked at or tried changing the setting? [09:09] Although I haven't checked Unity for a while [09:10] duflu, will ask thanks. I'll test on a VM first [09:10] although, that might not be a real test [09:10] willcooke, problem is you won't be given the option unless it detects the touchpad hardware [09:11] ah, kk [09:11] And sometimes it even misdetects the hardware [09:11] So not everyone gets the full list of touchpad settings [09:12] yeah, doesnt work in a vm [09:12] I'll ask them to test and see what happens [09:12] thanks duflu [09:12] Yeah, same here, developing on a desktop [09:13] willcooke, maybe we should ask upstream to always show the widgets, and just disable them if they think a touchpad is absent. That would at least give people a better hint [09:14] I keep finding myself asking people to toggle settings that their systems don't present in the GUI... [09:15] So it would be more helpful for those cases to show greyed-out widgets instead of none at all [09:15] Probably the same amount of code to disable vs hide [09:15] humm, tricky one [09:16] In a perfect world, you don't need such a change. But in the real world there are touchpads that Linux thinks are mice [09:32] willcooke, what distro serie? [09:32] seb128, I think B [09:34] willcooke, I don't remember what's the default for that option, but we still have the issue than if libinput is installed then unity-control-center has no ability to tweaks the touchapd options since the code was never ported away from synaptic to libinput [09:34] that if* [09:35] willcooke, https://trello.com/c/X7gznOHG/132-libinput-support-for-unity-7 [09:35] ah yeah, that's what I was thinking of. Do you think they will be able to install synaptic and remove libinput? [09:35] if they don't need/want GNOME installed yes [09:35] seb128, thanks [09:35] yw [09:43] ok, after session transition: the correct session is selected. However, GDM dropdown doesn't match the session it's starting (like, I have GNOME session installed, it's telling it's the one selected while starting the ubuntu one) [09:43] that, as long as you don't select another session [09:43] even from wayland -> xorg, while the session name is still "ubuntu" [09:43] anyway, at least, most of people won't notice it, so let's upload the transition still, and we'll get to that bug later on… [09:44] didrocks, sounds like bug #1738389 [09:44] bug 1738389 in gdm3 (Ubuntu) "Adding a second user and logging in to the Ubuntu session gives the GNOME session" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1738389 [09:44] or at least similar [09:46] seb128: well, it doesn't select that session, it's just on the GDM dropdown, making you think it would select the first session in ascii order, which it doesn't. [09:46] there is clearly something wrong overall in GDM session management [09:48] oh, I hacked in /tmp for the gdm patch… [09:48] :( [09:51] :( [09:52] the patch is easy enough, more bothered by the description :p [09:52] but yeah, I still wish we had stayed on lightdm, it was so much better :/ [09:52] shame that the lock screen thing made that difficult [10:01] ok, with that known "display" bug, Xorg is now the default and transition from wayland -> xorg and xorg -> xorg works [10:04] nice [10:07] didrocks, https://trello.com/c/MTfnMTzr/205-minimal-patches-as-fallback-for-1604-on-the-shell [10:07] didrocks, I don't really understand the title/description, you meant 18 rather than 16? [10:10] oupsss, 18 ofc :) [10:11] basically, it's about the 3 set of minimal (some hackish) patches as the upstream reviews don't go really far [10:13] k, makes sense [10:13] thx [10:13] yw :p [10:28] willcooke, I was reminded recently that maybe I haven't tested VAAPI's smoothness on enough machines to really declare the main stutters fixed. Did you still experience any? [10:29] I mean my desktop is now fine, but another machine seems less so [10:30] duflu, huh, well, my server is down with all my content on, so I've not really been testing. I'll go download some. BBB yet again I expect. And Sintel [10:30] duflu, would you do a social post on the hub or whatever and we can share it around and have p_opey retweet it from the @ubuntu account etc [10:30] * duflu recalls thinking the GL logic in gstreamer-vaapi was dubious, but it seemed to work at the time [10:31] I think mpv was fine on the problematic machine still [10:32] willcooke, you mean request for testing? [10:32] duflu, yeah [10:32] willcooke, yeah. I want to be careful to not get into a situation though where we're confusing mutter stutter for totem stutter [10:33] So need to think about how to word it [10:33] ahh riht [10:33] right [10:33] * duflu can't believe he hasn't thought of such puns till now [10:34] and rhyming [10:40] good morning desktoppers [10:40] lut oSoMoN, ton téléphone est de nouveau tombé en rade ? ;) [10:42] jbicha, didrocks, the spice-vdagent MIR has been acked by security ... do you know if it needs to go back to the MIR team for them to confirm or just need to be seeded now? [10:42] let me look at the status [10:42] if there was a +1 from the MIR team, no need [10:43] seb128, non, j’ai juste oublié de me connecter à IRC… ce fut une matinée très calme :) [10:43] yep, all looks good, no need for a second MIR team round, setting to fix committed [10:45] haha [10:45] didrocks, thx [10:45] yw! Happy that's in :p [10:45] now, need the webagent for easy mounts [10:45] :) [10:46] haha [10:47] OK. Mission(s) accomplished for Tuesday [10:47] Night [10:47] night duflu [11:38] seb128, re: xrdp - thanks for the info. So you wouldnt have any objections to me filing an MIR for xRDP? I can get that kicked off if so. [11:40] willcooke, no objection no [11:40] that's going to require a security team review probably so you can also maybe talk to them [11:42] ack [11:42] I will file an MIR and follow up [11:43] thx [11:44] hey seb128 [11:44] for the gnome-disk-utilities debdiff [11:45] the original patch (https://bugzilla.gnome.org/attachment.cgi?id=367805&action=diff) has some #ifdef to check if udisks is new enough [11:46] hey andyrock [11:46] should I remove them right? or should I check that the required functions are in the .h files? [11:46] right, you need to remove those [11:46] kk [11:46] just adapt the control file to depends on the udisks revision that includes the patch backport [11:49] brb, moving back from that lunch place [11:50] kk [12:11] desktoppers: probably this is something that should be talked more in the (a) meeting, and not sure if feasible for changing the workflow, but what would you think about managing our gnome-shell/mutter and other GNOME packages where we might do some patching work (not customization, just backports and fixes as we did so far) with forks in https://gitlab.gnome.org/Ubuntu/ where we've basically have the debian folder in there? [12:11] I guess it would improve the workflow (at least for me). And of course we could be able to have a git mirror in LP too. [12:12] Or something else that might allow us non proper .deb devs to have a better way to get our changes in, withouth having to get bothered with debdiffs [12:13] Trevinho, hey, you should read https://community.ubuntu.com/t/move-ubuntu-desktop-packaging-to-salsa/3496 [12:16] Trevinho, that's basically what you want I think, full git derivated from upstream where you can probably git merge back changes to the ubuntu branch etc [12:17] seb128: looks interesting [12:17] seb128: but... is that going to debian first? [12:17] andyrock, sorry, had to drop off to change location, I'm back online if you have other questions [12:17] can't we just inherit that for ubuntu too? [12:18] andyrock, and I can look at your changes/sponsor them later :) [12:18] I've already uploaded the debdiff for udisks2 [12:18] * Trevinho reads the full thing first :-D [12:18] Trevinho, right, you should :p [12:18] I'm testing the one for gnome-disk [12:18] Trevinho, I expect we are going to discuss that in Budapest (though didrocks might be missing so maybe not, or not as much at least) [12:18] andyrock, k [12:19] seb128: please note that this will work with newly mounted snaps [12:19] snap team told me they were going to deal with the migration [12:19] not sure they did that [12:19] andyrock, which means work on all snaps on next boot right? [12:20] seb128: ok, for sure I'd love to have better handling of all this, since now for me all the times I want to propose something to be in ubunutu as because maybe it's still pending upstream or similar, I stop since it's a bit annoying :-P [12:20] nope installed snaps but they can fix it [12:20] if they didn't I'll ping them [12:20] And I prefer to wait for someone to do the syncs on [point] releases [12:20] andyrock, ok, did you file a forum topic or bug about that? [12:20] when I proposed the patch for snapd they told me they were going to deal with the migration [12:20] k, maybe check and open something if they didn't [12:20] I'll do it [12:21] easy to forget when you have no item for tracking the work [12:21] thx [12:22] andyrock, where did you add the udisks update? [12:22] https://bugs.launchpad.net/gnome-disk-utility/+bug/1637984 [12:22] Ubuntu bug 1637984 in gnome-disk-utility (Ubuntu) "Disks shows all mounted snaps" [High,In progress] [12:34] andyrock, thanks, it doens't have an udisks2 line that's why I didn't find it :) [12:34] ah [12:34] I'm uploading the gnome-disk one too [12:35] tested on a vm and it works fine [12:36] andyrock, why do you need libmount 2.30? [12:36] because userspace mount options are exported only with libmount >= 2.30 [12:37] that's why we can't backport this [12:37] andyrock, k, so that's not a new api/something that is reflecting in https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/collab-maint/pkg-util-linux.git/tree/debian/libmount1.symbols with a 2.30 version [12:38] buuuuut we can backport an alternative fix (ok for a deb patch, not ok for upstream) [12:38] andyrock, I was asking to know if you need the depends, if that was a new symbols the dh tools would pick the version for you so that line wouldn't be needed [12:38] no symbols [12:38] it's using some libmount stuff [12:38] k [12:38] andyrock, loosk good but please update the changelog to have that info [12:39] * debian/control: [12:39] kk [12:39] - updated libmount requirement to 2.30, that's needed because [12:39] andyrock, ^ [12:39] andyrock, thx [12:42] https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/WAhhFWq1/ [12:42] seb128: ^^^ fine for you? [12:43] andyrock, looks good yes, thanks :) [12:46] seb128: can you check https://launchpadlibrarian.net/355973424/gnome-disk-utility.debdiff [12:48] also if you can add the target for bionic/artful/xenial [12:48] right [12:48] artful has libmount1 >= 2.30 [12:48] andyrock, same question that earlier for this other one, why do you need the new libudisk? [12:48] so we can backport the all thing [12:49] right [12:49] the new disk because there are new symbols [12:49] udisks_block_get_userspace_mount_options [12:50] for xenial just target gnome-disk-utility [12:50] hum [12:50] andyrock, https://launchpadlibrarian.net/355965413/udisks2.debdiff doesn't mention that symbol? [12:50] it's generated [12:50] oh [12:51] [12:51] andyrock, it should probably be added to udisks debian/libudisks2-0.symbols then? [12:51] maybe [12:51] andyrock, it's weird that dh_shlibs doesn't complain about that when you build your new udisks2 [12:51] thanks seb128 for the LO upload! [12:51] oSoMoN, yw! [12:51] * andyrock is new to debian packaging [12:52] andyrock, that file lists the symbols and the version where they have been added, which is used then to compute the right version to depends on for things using your lib [12:52] andyrock, like that new gdu using a symbol tagged as being from 2.6.5-2ubuntu3 is going to create a depends of that version of the lib [12:54] andyrock, oh, and don't forget to add an entry to the changelog "* debian/libudisks2-0.symbols: list new udisks_block_get_userspace_mount_options symbol" [12:54] :) [12:54] so there is no need for "libudisks2-dev (>= 2.6.5-2ubuntu3)" [12:54] kk [12:55] andyrock, you still need the versionned build-depends, it's the runtime depends which is computed [12:55] ah ok [13:15] seb128: speaking of MIRs, I opened LP: #1746598 and LP: #1746629 [13:15] Launchpad bug 1746598 in libnfs (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libnfs" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1746598 [13:15] Launchpad bug 1746629 in libbluray (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libbluray" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1746629 [13:16] jbicha, hey, ok, good luck for getting those reviewed seeing we still have some the summer not reviewed yet :/ [13:17] yeah, these two aren't very high priority IMO [13:18] right [13:21] seb128: dpkg-gensymbols gives me something like that "+ udisks_block_dup_userspace_mount_options@Base 2.6.5-2ubuntu3" [13:21] is that correct [13:21] andyrock, that sounds right to me, what do you think? [13:21] kk for me too so :D [13:25] andyrock: trivial, but could you add a ~ to the end of that symbol version number, 2.6.5-2ubuntu3~ [13:25] useful in the rare chance that someone would try to backport it in a PPA [13:25] kk [13:41] seb128: done [13:42] I'll be afk in the next 20/30 for lunch [13:44] andyrock, thx, enjoy! [14:07] seb128: Removing "X-Ubuntu-Gettext-Domain=remmina" seems to have worked. :) Did you confirm it first, or did you take a chance? [14:08] oSoMoN, hey! [14:08] oSoMoN, i no longer have a desktop file for chromium, using the edge channel [14:09] kenvandine: hey.. when you can pelase give a look at the desktop helpers PR i sent [14:10] kenvandine, that's unexpected, let me check [14:10] kenvandine, how was the trip back home? [14:10] oSoMoN, oh.. nevermind [14:10] installed: 65.0.3325.18 (225) 139MB disabled [14:10] maybe it's in the process of updating? [14:11] kenvandine, what does "snap changes chromium" say? [14:12] 1182 Doing 2018-02-06T14:03:31Z - Auto-refresh 5 snaps [14:12] so i guess it's refreshing [14:12] annoying i can't start my browser though :) [14:12] kenvandine, use the ff snap :) [14:13] :) [14:16] * kenvandine wonders how long this could possible take [14:19] kenvandine, also, I built a LO 6.0 snap on bionic, and it's doesn't even start on bionic, so it's even worse than you told me [14:19] I pinged Sergio about it yesterday, but no answer [14:20] oSoMoN, did you use snapcraft from the edge channel? [14:20] oh, LO is strict right? [14:23] oSoMoN, the bug i was talking about only effected classic snaps [14:23] oSoMoN, but... you don't want to build a strict snap on bionic unless you specify base: base-18 [14:24] aha [14:24] GunnarHj, I read through the code of the tools and sounded like it should work so I went for it :) [14:24] kenvandine, where do I specify that? [14:24] you should build your snap on 17.10 and see if it works [14:24] oSoMoN, in the yaml [14:24] top level [14:24] hey seb128! [14:25] thanks, I didn't know of that [14:25] hey kenvandine, how are you? had a good trip back? [14:25] seb128: Ok. Thanks for sponsoring! [14:25] oSoMoN, kenvandine, base-18 isn't going to be friendly to other series yet though? [14:25] GunnarHj, yw, thanks for doing the work! [14:25] seb128, not really [14:25] it's only in edge [14:25] oSoMoN, ^^ [14:25] so you'll need to install base-18 from edge [14:26] also note that base-18 is going to be renamed core18 [14:26] seb128, it should work fine on 16.04 though [14:26] it'll just have trouble auto downloading base-18 because it's not in stable yet [14:26] oSoMoN, so don't publish a snap built for that yet [14:26] oSoMoN, also you can't build for that on LP yet [14:27] oSoMoN, and cleanbuild won't work for that yet :) [14:28] wow, that's a lot of don’ts and can'ts [14:29] drum roll [14:30] #startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 6 Feb 2018 [14:30] Meeting started Tue Feb 6 14:30:17 2018 UTC. The chair is willcooke. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [14:30] Available commands: action commands idea info link nick === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/lsBmkzPY/ubuntu-desktop-1804-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | pink killer → lots of help | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 6 Feb 2018 | Current topic: [14:30] Roll call: andyrock, dgadomski, didrocks, duflu (out), jbicha, jamesh (out), jibel/heber, kenvandine, laney (hols), oSoMoN, seb128, tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out) [14:30] hey [14:30] o/ [14:30] hi [14:31] o/ [14:31] hey [14:32] o/ [14:32] o/ [14:32] Looks like we have enough people to get started, so.... [14:32] #topic andyrock === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/lsBmkzPY/ubuntu-desktop-1804-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | pink killer → lots of help | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 6 Feb 2018 | Current topic: andyrock [14:32] \o [14:32] 1. WIP: adding a UbuntuSSO provider in gnome-online-accounts [14:32] 2. Updated gnome-disk-utility's patch [14:32] 3. Debdiffs for udisks2 and gnome-disk-utility for bionic [14:32] 4. Several discussions to understand how to properly handle sso [14:32] 5. Writed an helper to discharge macaroons (doing that in C is not feasible) [14:33] Thanks andyrock, could you let me know when Disks arrives in Bionic so I can do some before and after screenshots and share it around. [14:33] eow [14:33] I'll keep an eye on the bugs, but in case I miss it [14:33] sure thing [14:33] thanks! [14:33] #topic dgadomski === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/lsBmkzPY/ubuntu-desktop-1804-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | pink killer → lots of help | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 6 Feb 2018 | Current topic: dgadomski [14:33] hey [14:33] * merge request waiting upstream for bug #1644662 [14:33] * found the cause of bug #1746482 [14:33] * still working on bug #1743422 [14:33] bug 1644662 in unity-control-center (Ubuntu Xenial) "Icons missing when appearance setting is "high contrast"" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1644662 [14:33] bug 1746482 in linux (Ubuntu) "mount.cifs stopped working with protocol version>1 and sec=ntlm" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1746482 [14:33] bug 1743422 in unity (Ubuntu) "The launcher reveal doesn't always work when moving the pointer to the defined hot spot" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1743422 [14:33] eof [14:34] thanks dgadomski [14:34] dgadomski, need any help from us on those? [14:34] so far I'm good, thanks [14:34] cool [14:34] #topic didrocks === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/lsBmkzPY/ubuntu-desktop-1804-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | pink killer → lots of help | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 6 Feb 2018 | Current topic: didrocks [14:34] * GNOME Shell date centering: got some reviews and applies small modifications. Changed in the ubuntu distro patch as well. [14:34] * Fix communitheme CI broken due to artful [14:34] * Continue discussion/keeping involved with the Communitheme team. We start even having external code contribution! The reviews are doing well on github. [14:34] * Became a GNOME foundation board of director member. Attended to first weekly meeting. [14:34] * Pre-FOSDEM: attend the GNOME adboard meeting [14:34] * FOSDEM [14:35] * ubuntu tutorials generation code: [14:35] - claat: rebase for google upstream integrating our new markdown parser. [14:35] - give advice and review to web team on how to add a new metadata for our codelabs and tests for it. [14:35] - made a new release so that tutorials.ubuntu.com picks up automatically the new binaries with the additional metadata. [14:35] . [14:35] didrocks, congrats! [14:35] congrats didrocks [14:35] thx ;) [14:35] #topic duflu === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/lsBmkzPY/ubuntu-desktop-1804-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | pink killer → lots of help | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 6 Feb 2018 | Current topic: duflu [14:35] * PulseAudio update: [14:35] - Released, finally: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/1:11.1-1ubuntu4 [14:35] * BlueZ 5.48 update: [14:35] - Not sure about the QA status but it's ready for proposed testing if anyone wants: https://launchpad.net/bugs/1747354 [14:35] * Gnome Shell performance work (https://trello.com/c/Q6JYXPPs) [14:35] - Multi-monitor frame scheduling holding up the whole gnome-shell event loop: Spent most of the week on it and still looks like it will take me a few days to finish yet (https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/issues/3). Still easy in theory but dealing with mutter's code is just taking longer than I expected. I should have branches for upstream review this week. [14:35] Ubuntu bug 1747354 in bluez (Ubuntu) "Update bluez to version 5.48 in bionic" [Wishlist,In progress] [14:35] * Daily bug management across gnome-shell, mutter, gdm3, ubuntu-themes, bluez, pulseaudio, dkms, mir, wayland, totem, mpv, libinput. [14:36] * HELP: Fixes still awaiting sponsorship: [14:36] - https://code.launchpad.net/~vanvugt/gtk/fix-1698270/+merge/331846 [14:36] * Xwayland/gnome-shell crashes not getting reported: [14:36] - Found a new reason this week: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apport/+bug/1746874 [14:36] Ubuntu bug 1746874 in apport (Ubuntu) "gnome-shell and Xwayland sometimes leave $HOME/core files (should be /var/crash files)" [High,Triaged] [14:36] - Fixing that *might* uncover the missing crash reports for Xwayland corresponding to gnome-shell's #1 crasher: https://launchpad.net/bugs/1505409 [14:36] Ubuntu bug 1505409 in GNOME Shell "gnome-shell crashed with SIGTRAP in x_io_error() from _XIOError() from _XEventsQueued() from XPending() from gdk_check_xpending() ["Connection to xwayland lost"]" [Critical,Confirmed] [14:36] #topic jbicha === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/lsBmkzPY/ubuntu-desktop-1804-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | pink killer → lots of help | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 6 Feb 2018 | Current topic: jbicha [14:36] • gtk4 is now in Debian experimental [14:36] • GNOME Tweaks 3.27.90 release [14:36] • Made an upstream release of gedit since fixes had been accumulating there [14:36] • Made an upstream release of zenity to fix LP: #1747158 [14:36] Launchpad bug 1747158 in zenity (Ubuntu) "Translation template for Zenity is outdated" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1747158 [14:36] • Filed MIRs LP: #1746598 and LP: #1746629 [14:36] Launchpad bug 1746598 in libnfs (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libnfs" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1746598 [14:36] Launchpad bug 1746629 in libbluray (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libbluray" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1746629 [14:36] • brotli security fix for xenial LP: #1737364 [14:36] Launchpad bug 1737364 in brotli (Ubuntu Xenial) "16.04: Fix CVE-2016-1968 and CVE-2016-1624 for brotli" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1737364 [14:36] • Made a proposal to Ubuntu flavors about default emoji fonts LP: #1746310 [14:36] Launchpad bug 1746310 in ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "Drop fonts-symbola from platform?" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1746310 [14:37] • Dropped "Media Server" from GNOME Online Accounts list per upstream request LP: #1738448 [14:37] Launchpad bug 1738448 in gnome-online-accounts (Ubuntu) "gnome-online-accounts should recommend dleyna-server for Media Server support" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1738448 [14:37] • GNOME is entering its 3.27.90 Freezes https://wiki.gnome.org/ThreePointTwentyseven [14:37] 🏈 [14:37] busy week jbicha, thanks [14:37] jbicha, do you think you will have opportunity to look at the Network Manager patches from awe? [14:37] (in the next few weeks) [14:38] willcooke: probably but we're still blocked on someone to handle that one patch :( [14:38] I've that on my list for this week [14:38] jbicha, seb128 said he would take a look [14:38] :) [14:38] ok [14:38] and worth case we upload without it [14:38] and fix it later [14:38] +1 to that from me :) [14:38] if Steve or Mathieu are unhappy they can do the right thing and report upstream next time [14:39] thanks [14:39] #topic jamesh === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/lsBmkzPY/ubuntu-desktop-1804-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | pink killer → lots of help | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 6 Feb 2018 | Current topic: jamesh [14:39] I think jamesh is probably still travelling [14:39] #topic jibel / heber === meetingology changed the topic of #ubuntu-desktop to: Home of the Desktop Team, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam | For help or questions, try #ubuntu | Work (read-only for non-developers): https://trello.com/b/lsBmkzPY/ubuntu-desktop-1804-cycle | Amaterasu watches over you benevolently | pink killer → lots of help | Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 6 Feb 2018 | Current topic: jibel / heber [14:40] - Bionic alpha2 (not released) ISO testing [14:40] - 16.04.4 ISO testing (release delayed, new date to be defined) [14:40] - Verification of ubuntu-release-upgrader in artful to allow upgrades from an EOL release (ie zesty) when the packages archive is moved to old-releases.u.c [14:40] - Review and merge of ubiquity changes to move the keyboard setup page before the partitioning page (fixes bug 1047384) [14:40] bug 1047384 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Bionic) "System Encryption Password set before setting keyboard locale" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1047384 [14:40] - Following the work on boot speed, looked at startup time of gnome-software and reported bug 1747034 [14:40] - Investigating bug 1616332 to identify the source of the leak. [14:40] - Followed the evolution of bug 1648534. Down to 2500 reports a day against 4000 by day 2 weeks ago. [14:40] - Analyzed gnome-software failing tests in jenkins [14:40] bug 1747034 in gnome-software (Ubuntu) "application startup blocks on plugin timeout" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1747034 [14:40] bug 1616332 in gnome-software (Ubuntu) "gnome-software using hundreds of MB of memory when not in use" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1616332 [14:40] bug 1648534 in gnome-software (Ubuntu Xenial) "gnome-software crashed with SIGTRAP in g_wakeup_new from g_main_context_new from g_dbus_connection_send_message_with_reply_sync from g_dbus_connection_call_sync_internal from g_dbus_connection_call_sync" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1648534 [14:40] thanks for picking up that memory leak jibel [14:41] yw [14:41] +1 [14:41] and re: 1648534, interesting trend. That is encouraging [14:41] actually I expected it would go down faster [14:41] I still think that a lot of people simply never update [14:42] it's a security update [14:42] which is unattendeed-upgraded [14:42] well, the fix [14:42] right, but that just means that people have to ignore the message more often [14:42] then g-s is to update [14:42]