=== ePierre_ is now known as ePierre === mthaddon` is now known as mthaddon === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [16:51] hey... wondering if there is a easy solution for this that we're missing. [16:51] we have a recipe building curtin and publishing to a 'daily build ppa'. [16:51] then, we have code that is testing the package build from that daily build ppa (on a nightly basis) [16:51] we have a test harness that lives in the source. [16:52] so we apt-get install curtin [16:52] and apt-get source curtin [16:52] and then run the test harness from the source [16:52] the issue is that we find skew between source version and binary version [16:52] and then we have expected failures because the harness isnt at same level as the code [17:09] smoser: why not use curtin= ? [17:09] smoser: to force them to be the same [17:10] nacc: source package ? [17:10] confused. [17:10] apt-get source [17:10] and apt-get install [17:10] get different versions [17:10] thats my problem. (because the binary just isnt published or possibly built yet) [17:11] originally i guess i assumed that the source would only ever be published if the binary was built. [17:11] smoser: if you can apt-get install curtin [17:11] then you can find what version you have installed [17:11] then apt-get source curtin= [17:11] presumingn the ppa has kept that source avaialblle [17:12] oh. yeah... and do you think that will always be there? [17:12] smoser: i forget the rules for ppas [17:12] do the ppa archives keep more than one ? [17:12] thats worth a try though. thanks. [17:14] smoser: it won't go back super far regardlless, but i'm assuming this only matters for the most recnet build(s)? [17:14] smoser: you can check the source list on the ppa page, or using lplib, i thinnk [17:14] smoser: you could see what import-ppa does (from git-ubuntu) for your ppa [17:15] nacc: thanks [17:24] rharper: https://code.launchpad.net/~smoser/curtin/+git/curtin/+merge/337290 [17:25] nice [17:39] smoser: yeah that seems reasonablle. I wouldl expect a PPA to keep the sourcse used to build any packages that are currently installlable; obviously this is a race (i'm guessing) where a new source is being built, so it's possible they would disappear midway, but it seems a bit unlikely [23:10] smoser,nacc: it probably won't be published in Sources files, but you should be able to do dget https://launchpad.net/~OWNER/+archive/ubuntu/PPANAME/+files/curtin_VERSION.dsc (or moral equivalent) [23:12] cjwatson: ah good to know [23:45] cjwatson: ok. thank you. harder than i'd like it to be. but ok. [23:51] I miiiight be wrong, but I thought this was in my list of "boy I sure wish this worked differently, but I don't feel like spending the non-trivial effort involved in fixing it" [23:54] cjwatson is correct. Only the most recent source remains published on ppa.launchpad.net. [23:55] The only case where multiple versions of a particular source or binary are published in an (archive, suite, arch) is atomic arch-indep domination. [23:55] A similar mechanism could probably be used for sources, now that atomic arch-indep domination exists, but nobody's ever done that. [23:56] The Debian archive has done it for a while. [23:57] Yeah [23:57] I mean nobody's looked at it seriously in LP's history AFAIK [23:57] It also ties into the whole Built-Using thing.